Roxas Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 [quote name='The Vampire: Ed][color=red][font=Comic Sans MS]Ed didn't say nuttin' 'bout no aliens sucka![/font'][/color][/quote] Sorry. I need to start using quotes more. That was elfpirate who said that about the aliens. Sorry again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfpirate Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 [QUOTE=doukeshi03. Everything is a shade of grey, Evil and Good are just the product of fairytales and childrens books. Grow up. Okay- I'm not an idiot- I understand that good and evil are relative and subjective concepts- I wasn't really intending people to define good or evil for me. So thanks... And I don't wanna grow up so nyah! :p Seriously, though- I'm well aware of the perspective issue... that's actually why I started this topic... to check out the different perspectives of our species... I was interested in finding out where people saw the human race on the "good vs evil" spectrum of things. And I know that all individuals make their choices throughout life, good or bad...free will and all that...we've all explored both sides of the spectrum, haven't we? So do you think (based on YOUR OWN definitions of good and evil actions/choices/etc) that the human race more often chooses or acts in an evil manner or a good manner--overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Actually, the belief that right and wrong is subjective falls into the erroneous realm of moral relativism. The belief that we can decide for ourselves what is good and what is not good. There is an objective right. It is called reality. Reality = truth = and truth equals good. Therefore, anything that goes against reality and truth cannot be good. Nature and natural law is in itself good. However, since humans, unlike the rest of nature, have the ability to reason, we can decide to make the choice to go against the natural law which means we can decide to do wrong, while the rest of nature cannot. This leads to the principle of disordered goods. This states that there is an ideal, perfect good that we cannot achieve because we are fallible. All of our actions are measured as a disordered good since we cannot achieve the highest good. Some actions, like murder, are placed lower on the ladder do to their gravity. Say, as opposed to stealing an apple, murder would be much lower. The principle states that there is no evil for the sake of being evil, because in every "bad" action or "disordered good" there is some good intended, even if it is hardly visible. So the ability to reason and have free will leads us to make disordered goods that nature cannot be responsible for since it cannot reason. And the disordered goods that contradict nature and truth would be considered bad, meaning that we cannot decide for ourselves what is right and wrong. Disregard this last statement if you wish: Humans, being composite beings (Part soul which enables us to reason, and part nature as in our body) so our natural part is made capable of evil by our reason which in turn can perform evil because of the needs of our body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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