Too Strict...

[marking time]

I recently joined the otaku boards hoping for a good experience and fun descussion. However, what i found is a message board that is so strictly moderated that one can not just voice a simple opinion and not get a message saying that their post was unacceptable. What ever happend to being able to voice your opinion without having to have a complicated explanation. For example I started a tread about an manga i liked called Lament of the Lamb. I said in the thread that i love the manga and asked if there was anyone out there that liked it as much as me. Now if you ask me that is a good descussion starter. though short, very effective. the first responce asked me about the manga so i responded to the person whith a brief overview of the plot. I do not see why it is inapropreate if it is possible to start a good descusion without a long complicated thread. Sure I can leave the forum but i dont want to leave just yet. i just want to know the reasoning behind such stric moderation. It's sometimes hard to have fun in a forum when about one out of every 5 posts a person makes is critisized.

[Xx_Chaos_xX]

You dont really have to post long post, when i first came, my post were 2 lines long.
This is just something your going to have to get use to. Most of the time you have to Tell why you liked the book you do, it can be a pain, but it makes for a better discussion. You'll see, you just need some time to ajust to your new home :D

~Your friend, Chaos (Xx)

[Dagger]

[quote name='marking time']For example I started a tread about an manga i liked called Lament of the Lamb. I said in the thread that i love the manga and asked if there was anyone out there that liked it as much as me. Now if you ask me that is a good descussion starter. though short, very effective.[/quote]
The problem is, that kind of question encourages people to answer with a simple yes or no. When starting a series-specific thread, it's a good rule of thumb to briefly explain what you're referring to. It's not as though everything you write has to be either super-short or long and complicated. Just let others know what you're talking about--i.e. "I've read three volumes of Lament of the Lamb, and I really love it. It's a serious vampire story with interesting-looking artwork. So far, my favorite character is the protagonist's sister. Has anyone else read this?"... and so on and so forth.

It's quite possible to provide other members with some frame of reference (and, in the process, help faciliate a more interesting & involving discussion) without posting a novel-length summary/critique/whatever.

[quote]...It's sometimes hard to have fun in a forum when about one out of every 5 posts a person makes is critisized.[/QUOTE]
I'm not quite sure where you're coming from here. From what I can tell, you've been rebuked only once. Care to elaborate?

~Dagger~

[Ozymandius Jones]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]I'm not quite sure what you're complaining about. The OB is one of the best quality boards out there, and it's because of the mods. I've only been "criticized" twice, and I have over 150 posts.

Yeah, the mods are a bit strict...but they're the reason these boards aren't the streams of random gibberish that every other anime message board out there seems to be. And they're not the tyrants you make them sound like...she could've locked your thread, instead of giving you advice towards good posting in the future.

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[marking time]

Well I have 11 posts and at least 2 of them have been spoke down upon. I understand a little bit better now about the discussion starting. I guess i have just gotten to used to those other forums with the usless gibberish. Ok then NO more yes or no questions... Got It!

Oh and by the way it sounds as if you HAVE read some of Lament of The Lamb. well its nice to know someone else has

thanks for the explination

[Japan]

[COLOR=Navy]You'll get better with time. I've seen plenty of new members here that turn from a poor quality poster to a very high quality one. You'll get used to it. Plus, this place will help you to improve your writing skills and become a better writer. It sure helped me. Welcome.[/COLOR]

[Sara]

[quote name='Japan][COLOR=Navy']You'll get better with time. I've seen plenty of new members here that turn from a poor quality poster to a very high quality one. [/COLOR][/quote][color=indigo]It isn't that new members necessarily have "low quality" posts, but OB [i]is[/i] stricter than most boards, and it take a bit to get into the swing of things, I think.

But, yeah. Welcome aboard. Hope you stick around. :)[/color]

[Kei]

[color=darkblue]I apologize for coming off more than a bit blunt and rude with my suggestion. That was wrong of me, heh.

But anyway, what Dagger said is definately something that will help with not only dicussions in Manga Workshop, but all around the boards (with a little modification to the text where appropriate).

Like Japan and Lore said, we are somewhat stricter than most other anime message boards out on the 'Net, but we do have some of the better discussions about anime-related things (not to mention the general discussion in O. Lounge) on the web. We just like to see that forever a part of OB is all. ^^[/color]

[elfpirate]

[quote name='Ozymandius Jones][color=darkorange']I'm not quite sure what you're complaining about. The OB is one of the best quality boards out there, and it's because of the mods... they're the reason these boards aren't the streams of random gibberish that every other anime message board out there seems to be. [/color][/quote]
[b]That's pretty much what I was going to say. [/b]

[b]The cool thing about the mods here at OB is that they don't act like the Gestapo about issues such as that-- they are willing to offer advice and allow you to get settled in here. "Strict"? Yeah, but "strict" is something I'm quite thankful for.[/b]

[b]I hope you can appreciate their suggestions and don't see it as a source of frustration, because they [i]are[/i] trying to help-- not to irritate you.[/b]

[b]As was said before, if you stick around, you'll get the hang of it pretty quickly, and you'll be really grateful to the mods for keeping the OB tidy...[/b]

[ArunueShekamari]

[quote name='Lore][color=#4b0082]but OB [i]is[/i'] stricter than most boards, and it take a bit to get into the swing of things, I think.[/color][/quote][font=Book Antiqua][color=silver]Oh, yes. The OB does take a little bit of getting used to when you first sign up. Though, it's not hard to get so used to it that you join another message board and people nagg you for putting too much into your posts ><[/color][/font]
[font=Book Antiqua][color=silver]But The OB is wonderfully run. The moderators are very good at keeping content high. Welcome to the OB, too, hope you have fun.[/color][/font]

[SunfallE]

[QUOTE=Ozymandius Jones][COLOR=DarkOrange]Yeah, the mods are a bit strict...but they're the reason these boards aren't the streams of random gibberish that every other anime message board out there seems to be. And they're not the tyrants you make them sound like...she could've locked your thread, instead of giving you advice towards good posting in the future.

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I would agree that they are strict, however when I joined this forum I quickly got use to the quality of posts. It was surprising to go back to other forums I belong to and realize just how many of the threads there are nothing but gibberish. So many of them are full of nothing but simple statements that quite often don't even form a whole sentance! Though I can't blame the people there, most of them are still very nice. Now, I rarely post in any of them anymore as it just doesn't seem like there is any real discussion going on. I think if you give it a chance you will like it here. :animesmil I'm new myself but welcome to OB!

[Zidargh]

Haha, when I first came here, I was probably one of the worst ones here for quite some time. I used to state that I was the [size=4][color=red]'FINAL FANTASY MASTER!!![/color][/size]. Then I realised that many others were more knowledgable, though kuja's "I know the 42nd name in TSPW Credits" were plain ridiculous.

I spammed alot too. But then I changed.

Oh yes, I changed.

Well, I haven't really. But you get the point...







[size=1][b]I actually did change, but I added that for comic affect.[/b][/size]

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting.

I have to agree completely with Zidargh, when I first joined OB in September 2001 I was an atrociously bad poster, and often did little more than post spam. However given a bit of time I began to realise that my posts could be better and sought to emulate those with well written, punctuated and altogether good posts. Three and a half years later and I feel that I've changed, although just looking at my old posts makes me cringe.

To be honest I don't actually think that OB's Mods are all that strict, although I don't visit the Anime Lounge and that's seemingly where some of the worst cases of spam are. I've found that most of the other role-playing sites I've come across are very leniently Moderated and are typically filled with two-lined, smiley-ridden posts.[/SIZE]

[Kamuro]

Dagger should make this post sticky or something so everyone knows what its like to be new here lol, everyones made mistakes, bad posts, no ones perfect, especially when it comes to the hundreds of posts being made, of course they're not all going to be perfect, and although harsh sometimes, in the long run it definitely makes for better threads and a more interesting forum experience

[PWNED]

In my opinion, This site is a bit strict depending on the type of posts that are in trouble. At this other Forum Website, that is lenietly moderated which is why there is such poor post quality there. I think that the way to keep Introductions away is to create a Forum just for Introduction threads except they have to be detailed posts saying your likes, dislikes and where you are from.

[Zephyr]

Are the mods strict on this board? Yes, but with good reason. Because the general age of this board's members is rather low, and many forum crawlers on the web are not polite enough to post properly, there are many problems that would arise from lax standards. Things like bad grammar, spamming, posts containing: "I h8 (insert something here), how 'bout U?", and even the dreaded Leetspeaker posts. I have seen fourms with poor quality control, and have to say that I feel like my I.Q. plummets twenty points each time I see them.

You will occasionally run into problems, especially if you just joined up, but over time you will learn how to work around them. As time progresses the mods/admins will cut you a little more slack, as long as you show that you are trying to post properly, and not intentionally ignoring their suggestions/ the rules.

Honestly, I think the strict rules is what makes this an enjoyable forum to visit. They weed out all of the people that would eventually corrupt a forum, and gives people a chance to be heard without the pointless spamming and flamming.

[Shuiri]

[Font=Garamond] [Color=Red]Personally, while I'm new here, I love OBs 'strictness'. See, I've been to various boards, moderator at some, and after countless 1 word posts, and incomprehensible text, it can make a guy go insane if subjected to it for long. Which I have been, mind you. Thankfully, OB has high quality posts that are at least worth responding to in a coherent manner. This place lacks spamming, flaming, & so on.[From what I can tell.] That of which just makes all the more better, I think.

So, yeah, I like this place. A lot. [/Font] [/Color]

[Box Hoy]

I like to call it the noobie syndrom. Where your posts consist of endless exclamation points and one word. Most of the time being a hardcore fanboy of some anime or game series *cough*finalfantasy*cough* (sorry but that's the most frequent thing I hear).

Just wait marking time. Over time you'll look over your old posts and threads in your profile and be like "Whoa. I posted that"

I don't disagree with the moderators decisions anywhere on this board whatsoever. Yes thay can be a little harsh. I remember Charles making fun of one of my threads in the literature area long ago and closing it. *shakes fist*

Let's just say that after you've modded and administrated a board full of noobies and psychotic middle schoolers and freshmen you'll appreciate what the moderators on the OB are doing.

That's why this place is so great. They keep it clean. And in turn we grow.

If you take all the members registered here and create a pie graph or something you'd more than liekly find that over 85% are active and that small 15% group consists of the lazy who don't find satisfaction in writing an intelligent and quality post and thus refuse to be apart of something great.

--Box