Women

[Kamuro]

There was a thread started recently asking for love advice, and I tried my best to help him out, but its hard to give advice on something that isn't all that clear to me. I wonder all the time (as do many other guys) how women tick. What goes on inside their head, its interesting, at least to me. I've met some cool girls on here, and posts are usually pretty open, so I figured why not ask for a kind of "census" on what they want. What makes you smile? What can a guy do to sweep you off your feet? I've had girlfriends, and I'm not completely retarded to the issue, and I have a few ideas myself of what they might want, but thats the point, its just an idea. So if the girls in the forum take the time to read this post, help me out.

[Adahn]

[size=2]I am (hopefully obviously) not a girl, but I feel compelled to reply. From a non-sexual perspective, everyone wants to love someone for who they are, and be loved for who they are. When you start asking for advice on how to attract other people, you're no longer treating the object of your affection as an individual, but as one of many, whose individuality isn't as important to you as winning this person's affections through artificial (impersonal) means. If you truly want a relationship, you will be yourself and do not what is expedient, but what is true to your character. If you enter into a relationship sweeping someone off their feet, you'll either have to keep up the ruse of being the dashing young individual you are, or come clean and hope the other person finds your efforts endearing rather than manipulative.[/size]

[Retribution]

[SIZE=1]I don't think kakashi meant to pose for a girl, but rather what words exactly to say. Hm... didn't quite come across as clearly as I had thought it out...

I believe he means that he just needs certain pointers to "lure them in," not with fakeness, but with tact. What exactly to do around a girl. How not to act. Those little things, not really being a complete poser.

And did that make any sense at all?[/SIZE]

[Roxas]

If you have the ability to understand something as confused as that yes. But thankfuly for me I do have the ability to understand it And i totaly agree with you, at least on what you think he meant to say. Other than that... i have no other help for you cause Im a male so... yeha do the science.

[Japan]

[COLOR=Navy]To tell you the truth, you, like many other guys, may never know what women think, feel, and want. A lot of my guy friends can't seem to understand me sometimes. My thoughts and actions are whatcan be described as 'over their heads.'

Women are just hard for most guys to understand. Some women find it hard to understand some guys, though, that may be a bit rare, I guess.[/COLOR]

[future girl]

[size=1]I think, quite honestly, that most girls make themselves out to be some ancient enigma that nobody ever gets right. There's too much hype revolving around the female psyche. My advice is keep your dick in your pants and everything else is forgivable. There's that basic concept of respect that applies to all humans. Most women are very easily satisfied, you only think they're not because you make them out to be a thousand times more complicated than they are. And just in case, I am a girl and a pretty one at that.[/size]

[Missa]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]Adahn[/B]

I am (hopefully obviously) not a girl, but I feel compelled to reply. From a non-sexual perspective, everyone wants to love someone for who they are, and be loved for who they are. When you start asking for advice on how to attract other people, you're no longer treating the object of your affection as an individual, but as one of many, whose individuality isn't as important to you as winning this person's affections through artificial (impersonal) means. If you truly want a relationship, you will be yourself and do not what is expedient, but what is true to your character. If you enter into a relationship sweeping someone off their feet, you'll either have to keep up the ruse of being the dashing young individual you are, or come clean and hope the other person finds your efforts endearing rather than manipulative. [/QUOTE]

Well, I'm a girl, and I think that you are on the right track. All I really want is someone who is interested in knowing me, my goob qualities, my bad qualities, my dreams and aspirations, my beliefs and values...etc. I want someone who can accept me for who I am, appreciate me for being that person, and not try to change me or imply that I need to be changed. And I want someone who is willing to open up to me and share with me who they are, so that I can accept them, appreciate them, and truly love them, whether I always understand them or not.

I don't think you need to do anything to really attract a girl besides be yourself and give her your attention. Neither of those are very big things. Being yourself might be hard if you're shy and unconfident, but in that case...stop focusing on you and start focusing on her. If you are constantly worrying about how you act and what you say around her, you're not really focusing on her at all. And if you really like a girl, I would think that paying attention to her wouldn't be so hard. I might be a girl, and just not understand guys, but I know that when I am interested in someone, I want to give them my attention.

[James P. Galvatron]

Thanks for the advice I am a male myself yet I can't seem to find the right girl and when I find the right one she has a boyfriend I and I usually never know the guy.

Like I'm great to talk to have a friendship with but no to date I guess.

[Delta]

[COLOR=#FF5646][SIZE=1]^ Oh yes, being yourself is a must. Notice how many movies cash in on plots where pretends to be something 's not.

I'd probably go for someone extremely interesting and who has tons to do with his life so as not to bug me every waking moment. Ah, he has to look good and dress well too.

I really think our half of the population is as varied as the males': same superficial types, same mysterious figures. I'm sure you all have heard of women attracted to men with "an air of mystery about them"? There you go. Mystique surrounding women is overrated.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[JenniKate]

Sadly for everyone I don't think anyone is alike so it's not possible to ever understand anyone ever!

This is speaking from experience - of all the people in the world I think only 2 truly know me and they don't try to understand me anymore.

I am a person that has 2 faces - the one I show the world and the one I keep locked up inside and try not to let anyone see.

So - in answer to the question 'what makes women tick, what can you do to sweep them off their feet' well, for me personally you'd need to be able to know when I'm down and hug me.... the trick being to know when I'm down cause I never look it! :animesigh

For my 3 good friends
- you'd have to buy one chocolates and flowers
- you'd have to take one out to see good bands
- you'd have to be funny and make one laugh

So there you have it - 4 girls and the things that are good for one are bad for the others!

So, as everyone's said - be yourself - cause then you'll find the person you are compatible with and if the person you think you like doesn't seem interested then you'd probably end up not together anyway.

good luck !

[Semjaza]

You're not going to understand women. I don't understand women, but I'm seemingly doing just fine. I don't understand most men either. Or most people, for that matter.

Just wander around aimlessly, be a decent person and whatever happens happens. Most of it turns out fine in the end. Advice in these threads is rarely useful beyond common sense things. People are all different. If there was some magic trick, no one would have any problems.

However, in regards to the initial post, I can't directly answer those questions. I do know some girls I can ask. If they are willing to answer, I'll post them in here lol.

[James]

[QUOTE=Generic NPC #3]You're not going to understand women. I don't understand women, but I'm seemingly doing just fine. I don't understand most men either. Or most people, for that matter.

Just wander around aimlessly, be a decent person and whatever happens happens. Most of it turns out fine in the end. Advice in these threads is rarely useful beyond common sense things. People are all different. If there was some magic trick, no one would have any problems.[/QUOTE]

[color=#B0251E]This is all you ever need to read in this thread.

The moment you start generalizing about any group (men, women or whatever) is the moment you should quit. There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to this stuff...thinking of women as one giant group with no individual differences is the first big mistake.[/color]

[Ezekiel]

[SIZE=1]James and Tony hit the nail on the head, really. With everyone being so different in every part of their lives, there isn't any way you can say ?This is how to attract a woman. Any woman.?

I'm in a relationship, have been for 2 months but I've known him for almost a year. I still don't understand him; sometimes things he says totally catch me off guard. I think this just shows that you have to get together with a person [I]before[/I] trying to understand them on every level. My suggestion is if you find a girl you really like, be her friend before anything else.[/SIZE]

[ForgottenRaider]

[quote name='Gabriel][SIZE=1']I still don't understand him; sometimes things he says totally catch me off guard.[/SIZE][/quote]
I would agree.

People have a great ability to hide who they are, for all sorts of reasons. I spent some four years getting to know (really know) a girl, though every so often she would change completely, and I would feel like I had just meet a completely new person - and again I would start trying to work her out.

I have a quote that I feel sums it up perfectly, by one of my favourite authors, though it talks about some thing slightly different.

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened." [i]D. Adams[/i]

Though I do not think it means we should ever stop trying to work it out. Who knows, there could be a really simple answer and you'll make a mint selling a book about it.

[JT Darkfire]

Let's face it folks, everyone wants to know the big secret, become the next Casanova, but to be honest, not everyone is going to accept you. And there's another thing; don't try to change yourself so people will accept you. It's just not worth the effort. Don't take any advice from anyone, because "The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool. " Admitting that you don't understand is the first step towards accepting it. Besides, most dating tips you'll here are either incredibly generic common sense, or stereotyping and seemingly forgetting about an important part of the human psyche called INDIVIDUALITY. What you should do is keep trying the things you are doing, and eventually you will meet the person you were destined for anyway.

[Kamuro]

well, some people got the point of the post, others didn't, I wasn't asking for advice, just a discussion, I know every girl is different but I know there is some things that every girl wants, and even if not, what do [U]you[/U] want, the post was directed at women, and what [U]they[/U] wanted, not specifically every girl, I'm a musician, and well, girls seem to be drawn to that in the first place, girls are always at shows and such, I don't have a problem getting a girlfriend, but the post was started, so we could discuss what girls wanted, and maybe it would help out all the guys here, not just me, maybe it would help us all to treat our girlfriends better

anyway, thanks to all the girls that posted, reading your thoughts on here sort of makes me feel close to some of you, so its important what you think

[Ezekiel]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=#FF6666]Okay, so now I see where you're coming from with seeing what different girls like. You say you're a musician? Now while I know a lot of my friends wouldn't be drawn to that in a guy, I'm old fashioned and think it's great when a guy can play an instrument really well. What kind do you play, anyway?

Just the other night my friend Robert asked me what he could do to surprise his girlfriend. He felt that the relationship was falling apart and wanted to do something romantic, the best thing I could think of was buying a simple flower with a small note saying 'I love you'. I'm not sure why, but little gestures like that I think are the nicest when it comes to showing someone how much you care.

My friend Natalie and I both agree on the fact that saying 'I love you' when your partner isn't expecting it is better than telling them whenever you see them. I still stand by the fact that I like to be surprised, I think other girls will agree with me?[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[Oceanborn]

Well, you've wanted an answer, you got it...
{Actually, I typed a huge opinion here, but again, I thought that even I myself would be lazy to reads it, so why bother? Well, a summary.}
{Note, the summary turned out to be pretty large, too. So, all-in-main-summary XD }
- Girls are girlish. Independent from anything. Fact. Get me a girl who is absolutely non-speakable-to. I'm getting bored. [notes at the later Gabriel-chan's post - tee hee, smthng like this.]
- There are no nobodies. Everybody is somebody. There are neither perfect, nor totally imperfect ppl. Everybody simply is.
- Be honest. Be yourself.
- Lol, Kakashi-san, you playing' anything? [Ocean-dono throws a look at the [e]lec' guitar in by Ocean-dono's side]
- Also lol, Kakashi-san, [b]you[/b] weren't asking for advice (did you?), but I somehow feel like there are pretty many who would like to see some when opening this topic. Something like this XD.

[Kamuro]

I play acoustic guitar, its not like I'm famous or anything, but I love playing shows and such, I can give a link where you can listen to some of my stuff if you like?

on another note, no, I wasn't really asking for advice, but it is appreciated, I'm sure all guys here could improve on something, I mean, I try to be romantic best I can, I wrote a song for a former girlfriend and played it for her in private, and at an actual show I dedicated it to her, I usually give flowers on Valentine's Day, since I can't really think of anything else, but the post was just to find out what other girls liked, maybe other ideas or things I could do, when I actually get a gf, cause now, I don't have one lol

[Gelgoog Pilot]

[QUOTE=x kakashi x]

on another note, no, I wasn't really asking for advice, but it is appreciated, I'm sure all guys here could improve on something, I mean, I try to be romantic best I can, I wrote a song for a former girlfriend and played it for her in private, and at an actual show I dedicated it to her, I usually give flowers on Valentine's Day, since I can't really think of anything else, but the post was just to find out what other girls liked, maybe other ideas or things I could do, when I actually get a gf, cause now, I don't have one lol[/QUOTE]

First things first...that is one Huge sentence...I wanted to cut it down for my point to come across...but I found no period LOL!

Ok second point...you said it basically right there that you wanted advice...after you said you didn't...so...you need to watch yourself


Anyway my opinion...everyone needs a little stimulus once in a while for dating...Im not saying change yourself entirely...but some people don't realise doing the same thing all the time is boring...just try new stuff..and be yourself. :animesigh

[Kamuro]

I don't use appropriate grammer, get over it :p

and I'm not looking for advice, but I did say the advice was appreciated, and the post wasn't meant for me, it was meant to be a discussion on what girls really wanted, what specific girls liked and what they didn't like, not really advice, and I definitely didn't ask for it, I guess the writings hard to understand without periods, just stare really hard next time and maybe you'll get it? ;)

[Havokio]

[COLOR=Indigo]I'm male, but here's something most girls I know like in common...

Randomness.

When someone doesn't know what to expect, they get cautious. People try to find out what it would mean, then after deciphering the meaning, subconciously get a feeling for thet event if not for the person.

" Why did he do that?" Mystery, my friends. This kind of imbalance keeps people on there toes, in constant suspence. Women especcially like this (to the best of my knowlege).

Not Japanese "Pika suit" Random, but out of the ordinary.

And... as we all know, most women enjoy a polite, sincere compliment.[/COLOR]

[Gavin]

[quote name='James][color=#B0251E']The moment you start generalizing about any group (men, women or whatever) is the moment you should quit. There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to this stuff...thinking of women as one giant group with no individual differences is the first big mistake.[/color][/quote]

[SIZE=1]Yep that's pretty much the Golden Rule when it comes to dealing with women or anyone really, they all have their individual likes and dislikes, just like men do. I think trying to understand the way another gender's mind works is like trying to understand your pet, men and women do different things for different reasons and trying to apply a male logic to women won't work.

That said some common sense works wonderfully well when dealing with anyone, being an asshole with a girl doesn't work, being honest and nice I find does have a good effect. There's no guidebook to dealing with women, but dealing with other people [because a woman is a person just like a man] is simple enough.[/SIZE]

[Gelgoog Pilot]

[QUOTE=x kakashi x]I don't use appropriate grammer, get over it :p

and I'm not looking for advice, but I did say the advice was appreciated, and the post wasn't meant for me, it was meant to be a discussion on what girls really wanted, what specific girls liked and what they didn't like, not really advice, and I definitely didn't ask for it, I guess the writings hard to understand without periods, just stare really hard next time and maybe you'll get it? ;)[/QUOTE]
*slaps forhead* I went and quoted the wrong part of the post....ugh.... :animesigh Whatever...I'm gonna dropt it anyway...lol....too much other stuff to do than bicker about some non-point :animesmil

[Minako]

Ok, I'm not very experienced in the whole romance-department (how about we say, not at all... :animesigh ), but I do know what would make me happy.

As an individual, my significant other would have to be funny and make me laugh. I couldn't live without laughing at least once everyday. (If I don't, I get very depressed.) Just a guy that's nice to hang around with.

As others have said, the small random little acts of kindness, or in this case, love, would be so special. As someone said, a little note that only says "I love you," would make me smile.

Throw in a little sweetness, and gentleness every now and then, and I'm hooked.

Oh Kakashi, you play guitar, huuuuh?? heh heh (It's always a major plus if someone plays an instrument too! I've played violin for 10 years...)