Art Helba vs. Sun [Graphic Battle]

[Sun]

[COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1][FONT=Verdana]Helba and I thought that this forum needed to be spiced up a bit, so we decided to put together a battle.

I told Hacky, that his Graphic had to be 500x200 in size and had to include a woman or
women.

The voting will begin as of now and will end on Friday, July/22nd. If you guys aren't familiar with the voting process you guys should read this. I will be expecting each vote to have a 3-5 sentence paragraph explaining why you like his piece better than the opponent's piece. Please make it as detailed as you can.

Let the better man win.

[B]
[U]Here is my submission[/U][/B]

[B]Rising Sun:[/B]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/JustinTruong/Angeliccopy.jpg[/IMG]

[I]Hack Helba should have his in shortly.[/I] [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Stuart]

[FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=RoyalBlue]As promised, Here's my submission.

[B]Hack Helba :[/B]
[img]http://www.otakuboards.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24027&stc=1[/img]

I enjoyed working with her. Jiggity.[/COLOR][/FONT]

[Domon]

O.O Whoa, lots of..Women in lingere ^_^:; I'm such a perv. Both of you guys were pretty good, but I think Helba won me over.

The picture of Tara Reid that was kept in the foreground was a plus. The background was nice, I like the splattered like paint effect for the background. The text was pretty neat as well. I guess I'm easily impressed >_>;; It was hard though to decide. Both of you guys used some nice colors as well ^_^

[Goodbye, Face]

I'll have to go with Hack Helba's picture as well. It had an... interesting foreground image, while Rising Sun's picture seemed like it was just a background. Also, Helba's picture was compressed better, it doesn't have that JPG-ish look to it like Sun's. I almost feel as though Sun's image should have another person in the middle, with the words along her right side, following her curves. Meh, it's what I would have done.

[Sun]

[quote name='RiflesAtRecess']Also, Helba's picture was compressed better, it doesn't have that JPG-ish look to it like Sun's.[/quote]
[COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1]
[FONT=Verdana]JPG-ish look? Can you maybe expand on what your vision of a "JPG-ish look" really is?[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Retribution]

[QUOTE=Rising Sun][COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1]
[FONT=Verdana]JPG-ish look? Can you maybe expand on what your vision of a "JPG-ish look" really is?[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[SIZE=1]I was wondering the exact same thing. Sun, if your picture was a "JPG-ish" look, I want my pics to have it too. Cause your submission was kickass. But such a battle requires in-depth criticism!

[b]Hebbster[/b] I love the vividness of the stock first of all. Is it just me, or does she look rendered, and thus radiate a comic book feel to your banner (aided by your font and circly background)? Interesting style there, but the best thing by far about yours is the clear, crisp stock. However, the background is perhaps a bit too large for Ms. Hotstuff, and the rectangles feel uncoordinated.

[b]Sunshine[/b] This reminds me of my own work: THIS IS NOT BEAUTY. Even the typography feels similar. Either way, I love how you made her two different 'scenes' and had the colors fit together so well. I think you could've, however, faded the scanlines more. They're too prominent on the yellow side. Also, the text feels a bit off balance, maybe because it's leaning on it's side? Hm... Either way, color harmony trumps. Good stuff.

My vote goes to [B]Rising Sun[/B]. Good job to both of you![/SIZE]

[Guest Sean]

[QUOTE=Rising Sun][COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1]
[FONT=Verdana]JPG-ish look? Can you maybe expand on what your vision of a "JPG-ish look" really is?[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[FONT=Arial]And, I must say, I was wondering the exact same, and going with what Alex said I may wish to adopt this "JPG-ish" look for my own, mwa ha ha ha! >>;;

Ok, onto the actual [b]vote[/b] and [b]critiscm[/b]:

Numero Uno// [b]Rising Sun[/b]: What can I say? This is marvelous, you've blended the two woman in perfectly, it makes them feel like they are glowing slightly in the background. And the text? OMG! (*cough*), it is to die for darling, this seasons latest and you just brought it in fashion. The simplicity, the curves, the love.

Numero Deus// [b]Hack Helba[/b]: Ok, to start off, I have to say that this is one of your best pieces, it is so clean cut, so, well I don't know, but it looks great. Tara Reid, with the splattered background behind her seems to have an aura around her, even though this may not be the case, I do think you've very, very well on this.

You both cut it very close, very close indeed for my vote. But, my vote must go to: [b]Rising Sun[/b].[/FONT]

[Annie]

[color=teal]Wow....such an abundance of lucious babes, I think I'd overload if I was a guy.

[b]Sun-Sun-foo foo[/b]-- While I love the color scheme, very rich and clear, I can't say that it was the best choice of color for this particular piece. "Angelic" would be the wrong word to describe this graphic; I'd have said "Hot" or "Sex"..but that's me. To beg the differ, the style of font was very crisp and clean--I love it. The woman laying down is my favorite thing out of this graphic. She's almost glowing, giving that "angelic" feel. Very nice contrasting with her, not too powerful--and it makes the white bra glow.

The woman on the left, I'm not too fond of. Though, no one can resist the boob shot and black bra, I can't say that it moves me too much. This half of the graphic is really, really bright, and upsets the balance of the entire piece. On the other half, you have the relaxing feel, then bam! It's kind of a harsh transition.

[b]Helba-chuchu[/b]-- Although I don't like Tara Reid, this is a really amazing pic of her. The contrast is well-balance throughout the entire piece, and it's full of "in yo face" attitude. Tara is cropped nicely, and the tone of her skin is warm, her eyes are playful, yet the blue isn't overpowering. I don't like the font though...but that's no surprise; I don't like fonts..they don't work with me >> ...I like the smoothness of the over all graphic. It's a playful, spunky, energetic graphic and looks very much like an advertisement add you'd find at the top of a website page. Or on a billboard along the side of the highway.

My vote goes to [b]Helba[/b].[/color]

[Doc]

[font=Century Gothic][size=2][color=Black][b]Sun[/b]: I do have to agree with Retri a bit on this one. It does look like "[/color][/size][/font][font=Century Gothic][size=2][color=Black]THIS IS NOT BEAUTY" It is very well made, and when I first saw it, I was very impressed. For the look it achieves it's beautiful. I do not like the girl on the left though... it's sort of like her feminine curves were removed... and just focusing on her bosom. I mean, it's all good from some stand points, but I think it doesn't quite match up with the other side as well... It just has a different feel to me. Sure the other one doesn't focus on her curves as much... but it has more of an upper torso focus...

[b]Helba[/b]: Yours does have a bit of a different vibe to it. I mean... you have the model in the foreground, and off to the side, with a general focus on the being instead of the over all piece. I'm just spewing random bable, I'm sorry. But I do also love how crisp the picture is. I mean... finding stocks like that is hard.. for a specific look. Sorry, I'm all over with this critique.


Even though I ragged on his piece, I do prefer [b]Sun's[/b]. I'm sorry... but over all, I just prefer a vibe I got after writting up the above.
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[Goodbye, Face]

[QUOTE=Rising Sun][COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1]
[FONT=Verdana]JPG-ish look? Can you maybe expand on what your vision of a "JPG-ish look" really is?[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

It's blurry, the original image probably didn't look like that, right? It happens in every image that gets put on the web, but Helba's doesn't seem to be affected by it, that's that I was saying. It didn't contribute anything to my vote though, I simply like Helba's a little better.

[2010DigitalBoy]

I feel weird even judging these pictures. Um... Im going to have to say Helba's is better. Sun's is good, but I don't like how it's spit in half to show two pictures. Helba's has great color, and Tara Reid is hot. I like the white block things in the background.

[Sun]

[quote name='RiflesAtRecess']It's blurry, the original image probably didn't look like that, right? It happens in every image that gets put on the web, but Helba's doesn't seem to be affected by it, that's that I was saying. It didn't contribute anything to my vote though, I simply like Helba's a little better.[/quote]

[COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1][FONT=Verdana]My image didn't change because i saved it as a JPG. It didn't change at all, it was how it was put together. And i still don't get which area is "blurry". Specifications would be much more helpful.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Goodbye, Face]

[quote name='Rising Sun][COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=1][FONT=Verdana]My image didn't change because i saved it as a JPG. It didn't change at all, it was how it was put together. And i still don't get which area is "blurry". Specifications would be much more helpful.[/FONT][/SIZE'][/COLOR][/quote]

There's a reddish bar at the top and a darker, greenish bar underneath it that cross at the corners and go down. The images don't have sharp edges, it has a slight cloudy look and a little bit of pixelation "under the cloud." I really don't know how to explain it.

[Annie]

[color=teal]Then how about we continue on with the voting, and you two take this up in PM? ^_^

As of now, it's:

[b] 4--Helba

3--Sun[/b]

Let's go people.[/color]

[Nomad]

[COLOR=DimGray][SIZE=1][B][U][COLOR=Black]Sun[/COLOR][/U][/B]: The stock isn't showing an "Angelic" feel to me, kinda like Goddess stated, although, I feel that the stock, colours and font do fit each other in their own ways. Being "Angelic" the lighter colours give the fon the extra glow, building on it's already apparent glow. I don't think that the font fits the image well, I don't know what it is, it just doesn't seem to fit. I think the way you placed the stock (where it doesn't show the faces, or the more defining parts of the faces) is nice.

The colours look ok, but something about the left side of the image being brighter than the right is bothering me, but not too much as to unbalance the image in any way. The only thing that seems to unbalance the image would be the "Angelic" text, it seems to be out of place for some reason.

Overall, the image is great. It seems more of a background for something rather than having a good visual point to the image, it instead has many points of which you could focus on. That's alright if you're going for that type of thing, but I've found that trying to keep the focal points to one or two areas makes anyone viewing it to view it for a longer amount of time and thus relaying what you're trying to say or display better than it does to have a quick glance and miss important information.

[B][U][COLOR=Black]Hack[/COLOR][/U][/B]: The colours of the background, font and of the stock fit together very well. The different shades of orange and yellow fit well with the skin tone and hair colour of the stock image. This image has one main focal point, with one other visual aid to the main image.

I like the background, how the orange is just splashed/splattered onto the background. The boxes, to me, seem like they're leading you to one point on the image. They lead you to where they cut off, but instead of going to either side where there's just a border, the eye seems to follow towards the more interesting part of the image, which is the stock.

The text goes well with the image also. It has a comic-like feel to it, which fits with the messy type of background you've created, and the way the stock seems.... fake, or rather rendered (as Retribution mentioned; damn you Retri for noticing [and commenting] on how it conveys a comic book feel before me *shakes fist* :animesmil ).

The stock, as stated before, looks to be rendered in some way, which gives it more of a comic/cartoon-ish feel. The font and background compliment the stock very well, the way the colours match the skin tone and hair, and the way the eyes contrast with the rest of the image catches your eye really well.


Heh, my vote goes to the [B][COLOR=Black]Hack[/COLOR][/B]. Kinda rambled in my explanations, but you'll get over it, lol. :animesmil [/SIZE] [/COLOR]

[Semjaza]

I don't know why people use the term "jpg-ish" or "jpg-y". It doesn't really make any sense. If you mean blurry say blurry, if you mean artifacted say artifacted, if you mean jagged say jagged. Most of the time the way the file is compressed has very little to do with actual blurriness or jagginess and everything to do with color artifacting (particularly with red shades). Most of the stuff people describe as "jpg-ish" has nothing to do with the file format and would the same if it was another file type or even a 100% quality JPG.

Anyway.

I'm going with Hack Helba's. I don't really think either of them is mind blowing, but his has far more of a focus in my opinion. The general idea that Rising's is more of a background of sorts is kind of what I'm thinking, but I'm not really sure how to properly phrase it. I'm not really big on the lines in either of them (or those boxes in Helba's), however.

[Skye]

[color=pink]O-O Dear Gods...Tara Ried vs. Bosom Buddies. XD

I think, although the picture of Tara is definately hot, my vote goes to [b]Sun[/b].

[b]Sun-[/b] I prefer the way the colors are pu together, all blended neatly. I also prefer that it is not focused on any person in particular, in the abstract, general idea of it to the more bold, singularly stand-out-ish picture of Tara. This one is softer, thus going with the "Angelic" look that Sun seemed to be shooting for. It looks relly nice and simple, with a gentle idea, not bold, but appealing.

[b]Hack-[/b] Although Tara is a favorite, this piece is a little to bold for my tastes. For one, there are too many things that stand out; the boxes in the background, the daring font, and the picture of Tara. You have more than one thing to look at, which makes it seem crowded. I have to say, however that your choice in pictures, and the spacing you used on the different eye-catchers made this a little easier on the eyes. Only advice: next time, find one main focus.

Good job, both of you.[/color]

[Ezekiel]

[SIZE=1]Alrighty then, my apologies to both Sun and Helba for not posting this sooner.

[B][U]Sun:[/U][/B] While I do think this image is very pretty, clean and well presented, it is no where near as good as some of your other pieces. I don't like the way you have two separate boxes for the women and I don't like the placement of the text, it seems to throw the picture off balance. I do like the use of colours and the clever way you used a praying position for one of the women, that part I get, but it looks like the other one is stuck in there for the lingerie and nothing else =P If you see my point.

[U][B]Helba:[/B][/U] Okay, firsts with what I don't like about this pic, and there isn't much. The text you used for her name--I'm not fond of it or its placement. I do like the boxes you used in the background, it adds a nice touch and they aren't all that overpowering. I'm always a fan of the stock being solid and bold but still matching the background and I think you pulled this off really well, I also like the paint splash effect you used on the background. The image fits well together and the stock goes nicely, well done.

And, after that, my vote goes to [B]Helba[/B], though both were very good.[/SIZE]

[Retribution]

[SIZE=1]This battle is official over! I'm pleased to announce [B]Hack Helba[/B] the winner of this very intense graphic engagement. Very good show, both combatants. This is what I love to see in graphic battles -- close competition, not some blow-out.

Both your records have been updated in the official thread. Thanks, again[/SIZE]