vegeta rocker Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Let me just first say, i think cyber sex is really juvenile and stupid. But i was just wondering if you considered this cheating. I know some people who admit to doing it but they are in relationships. I think it is wrong, i would feel horribly guilty having phone sex with another guy who wasn't my boyfriend. So why is this any diffrent? Opinions Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retribution Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [SIZE=1]Cybersex is for horny people who can't get the real thing, and somehow think that it's any better than reading an explicit book/fanfic. But hey -- if you like it, more power to you. I don't see why anyone would enjoy it, but to each his own. As for cheating? Yeah, that's cheating...[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [QUOTE=vegeta rocker]Let me just first say, i think cyber sex is really juvenile and stupid. But i was just wondering if you considered this cheating. I know some people who admit to doing it but they are in relationships. I think it is wrong, i would feel horribly guilty having phone sex with another guy who wasn't my boyfriend. So why is this any diffrent? Opinions Please.[/QUOTE] It's not exactly cheating. Obviously no one is physically engaging in sexual intercourse. However, if someone is doing this while in a relationship, it doesn't exactly bode well for the condition of the relationship. Furthermore, I would consider even something like cyber sex a violation of trust if you're in an exclusive relationship. You're still showing a form of intimacy to someone else. A person shouldn't even have that desire if they truly care about someone. If someone feels the need to engage in this sort of activity while they have a partner, they're probably not seeing the right person. As far as cyber sex itself is concerned, I've never seen the point. Read a dirty magazine, masturbate and get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emme888 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=1][COLOR=Indigo]personally... i think that cybering is really quite funny. In fact its down right hilarious.. of course for those out there who do cyber and take it seriously. I'm sorry to offend you, but if you think about it... the idea of someone getting off to another person by merely typing a naughty conversation over AIM or MSN is really quite funny. I just think that its funny, cause some guy might think that he's talking to a really hot 20 year old female when actually its a 45 year old pervert of a man sitting in his parents basement. cybering to me is considering cheating though, i know that it's funny. But its cheating none the less. and besides if a guy can't be creative enough to masterbate to an image in his mind or rent porn... than he's pathetic. Even if a chick can't do the same.. that's pathetic. Cybering is stupid... yeah it allows creativity and [B]other body fluids[/B] to flow and to get some excitement.. but dude rent some porn or surf the net. Be creative... but i guess if you're going to cyber, have fun with not knowing that you might be getting off to a wierdo in some basement. Oh yeah... and clean off the mouse and key board too when you're done. gross.. yet funny... yet sad all in one. that's my take on cybering. and it is cheating. if you can't be romantic enough to get your woman/man in the mood than its your own fault.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [COLOR=#F84E20][SIZE=1]Okay, my opinions on cybering: If I were with a boyfriend in this country (which I'm not) I wouldn't do it because that's stupid. I happen to have found someone who isn't in this country, as others on the OtakuBoards have done, and I know him well enough to say I trust him and all that. So, yeah, we do cyber, big whoop. I also read explicit fanfics to boot. =P But seriously, when I look at the big picture, cybering is quite funny, I'm not denying the fact, and I don't take it seriously like I would a physical relationship. I still do it; it's just not really a replacement for physical contact. I think that's when it becomes an issue--people doing that instead of going out and looking for a boyfriend/girlfriend. As for me, I'm perfectly happy in the relationship I am in so I'll continue with what I do. Oh, and with regards to cheating. I wouldn't call it cheating, per se, but as Charles said it is a violation of trust, which shouldn't happen in a relationship. It's difficult when you're in an online relationship because all you have is typing to each other and when someone else steps in and says the same things you do to your partner it gets even more upsetting. So, IRL?Not to bad, online relationship?very bad. There's my two cents.[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horendithas Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [QUOTE=vegeta rocker]Let me just first say, i think cyber sex is really juvenile and stupid. But i was just wondering if you considered this cheating. I know some people who admit to doing it but they are in relationships. I think it is wrong, i would feel horribly guilty having phone sex with another guy who wasn't my boyfriend. So why is this any diffrent? Opinions Please.[/QUOTE] I agree that it is really stupid and juvenile. I would definately consider it cheating as any form of sexual relations with someone other than your husband or current partner is a violation of the trust you have in each other. Claiming it is only 'Phone sex' does not change the fact that you are doing it with someone else. I suspose the only real difference is that the chance of getting transmitted dieases from the phone is non-existant. However if you have not committed to a relationship then I see no problem with it, though I still think it's stupid and juvenile as you stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSeraphim Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [COLOR=Indigo][SIZE=1][FONT=Arial]Why is it stupid or juvenile? It's just two people using each other for kicks, or to help connect with their long distance partner. There's hardly anything stupid about it, and I don't think see how anything sexual can be juvenile. In it's simplest form, if it's not between devoted and in love individuals cyber is somewhat like a swingers party without the risk and more fantasy. If it is with a loved and cherished individual, it's akin to phone sex. No more. No less. I don't think you've ever done it, or don't understand it very well. I have done it, and it was enjoyable and very erotic. It was pretty much interactive erotica, in essence, but the person I was interacting with was (and still is) a treasured and beautiful woman I am madly in love with it instead of some lame bot or whatever. Nothing we've ever done has been 'juvenile or stupid'. I don't see where your opinion is even stemming from.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [QUOTE=Aiyisha][COLOR=Indigo][SIZE=1][FONT=Arial]Why is it stupid or juvenile? It's just two people using each other for kicks, or to help connect with their long distance partner. There's hardly anything stupid about it, and I don't think see how anything sexual can be juvenile. In it's simplest form, if it's not between devoted and in love individuals cyber is somewhat like a swingers party without the risk and more fantasy. If it is with a loved and cherished individual, it's akin to phone sex. No more. No less. I don't think you've ever done it, or don't understand it very well. I have done it, and it was enjoyable and very erotic. It was pretty much interactive erotica, in essence, but the person I was interacting with was (and still is) a treasured and beautiful woman I am madly in love with it instead of some lame bot or whatever. Nothing we've ever done has been 'juvenile or stupid'. I don't see where your opinion is even stemming from.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE][SIZE=1] I have to agree with Aiyisha on this. What makes that wrong if its between two loved ones? Especially those that are in long distant relationships. I don't think it's juvenile, that sounds silly. I do think it is a violation of trust only when the person that your interracting with, is indeed not your partner and they do not know about what you are doing. That is in a way, cheating, especially if you know the other individual. It's kind of like having a phone affair? I guess you could say. All in all, I find nothing wrong with what people want to do, only the fact that they are indeed in a relationship. What they do is their buisness, and no it's not always cheating. There is nothing wrong with exploring your sexuality. [/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horendithas Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 It is not my intention to imply that people who do it are stupid or juvenile, merely that for myself I feel that doing it would be stupid or juvenile on my part. I say that, as I will not pretend to like something that is not enjoyable for me, as that would be dishonest towards my partner or another person who wanted to have phone sex with me. I did not explain that clearly enough in my post. I am not interested in phone sex, though I see no problem with others doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hevn Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [SIZE=1][COLOR=#DC9B99]Mmm... cybersex. What is its difference with phone sex, or a porn mag, or a lemony fanfic? I say absolutely nothing. They're all enjoyable, sometimes a fun deviation from normal, physical sex, and they all serve one purpose. I don't seen anything wrong or stupid or juvenile with it. But of course, the real thing is better, and it's stupid if you prefer it over the real thing lol.[/COLOR][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAnthony Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 [b]The largest errogenous zone is the brain.[/b] With this in mind I believe: a.) although im not personally a fan i can see why others are. and b.) it is cheating. I feel silly enough in normal sex, let alone pretend sex =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbatman Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 uh, i don't think that cybering or even phone sex is anything like it's cracked up to be, i don't understand why people say it's fun or anything or how it's not cheating. Yeah, you're not touching the other person but it's just wrong it's like flirting to the next level. in short cybering=pretty dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeekan Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Cyber is cheating, If It's sexual contact with soemone else other than your girlfriend/boyfriend that is. I can understand couples who have been seperated by some travelling plan facilitating it's use for sure. As a hobby, well, I'd rather get some porn, get off and be done with it. Cyber requires you to type and be creative at the same time. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 [QUOTE=vegeta rocker]Let me just first say, i think cyber sex is really juvenile and stupid. But i was just wondering if you considered this cheating. I know some people who admit to doing it but they are in relationships. I think it is wrong, i would feel horribly guilty having phone sex with another guy who wasn't my boyfriend. So why is this any diffrent? Opinions Please.[/QUOTE] Well I wouldn't say that it's stupid or juvenile, but I definately don't think it's all that great. I would consider it cheating as even though you are not actually physically doing it with another person, the whole concept is that you are doing it with someone other than say your current partner or your spouse. The attitude that it's just cyber sex doesn't change the fact that it's with someone else. And that to me is just the same as if you really did do it physically with another person. As indifference said, the big difference is that there is no risk of getting transmitted diseases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamuro Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 [SIZE=1]Cybersex is a case by case issue as far as I'm concerned. It can be something sensual and worthwhile, or it can be juvenile and a waste both people's time. People who live far from one another long for physical interaction and cybersex offers an alternative to "face to face" interaction. In these cases even an act as simple as this one can be very intimate and fun, depending on how it's done. In a lot of cases the lack of physical contact makes this one that much better. You have sexual urges yet can't fulfill them without being unfaithful to your partner, so an alternative like this one works fine. However, the internet is full of pervs and retards who would cyber with anyone or anything having the chance to do so. This is what makes the act juvenile and meaningless. Just like regular sex, it's nice to actually have some feelings for the other person and in a lot of cases it's just random hornyness. What's the point of having casual sybersex? lol. And on that note, it is cheating. Some people joke around about it and I don't really think that means anything. You can tell when the interaction is serious and someone is attempting to get pleasure by talking to another person. Although not as serious as physical interaction, most still consider it cheating all the same.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetie_rei Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Me personally it is stupid and kiddish, like middle schoolish I would never do it. Everyone experiments with things and we can not control that. What other people do is what they are going to do and we as a society can not really change that; if a person is going to go onto a computer and sit there a cyber with someone, okay have fun, that is their thing. But if you have a boyfriend/girlfriend and they are really far away and you are having cyber sex that is a different story, but only if the both of you are into that. But is it cheating, yes it is in my mind, your doing something that the other person may not like at all, and with someone you totally dont know at all. It is just wrong, I would feel so horrible if that were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 [SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting. Even though cyber-sex doesn't actually count as cheating, because there's not physical intercourse it does break the spirit of the rule because you are engaging in a sexual act with another person. Of course this only counts if you are in a relationship with someone and then go have cyber-sex with somebody else, if you're not in a relationship then this could be counted as a sexual act a step above pleasuring yourself while reading/watching pornography but a step below real intimacy. Is it wrong ? I don't really know, yes if you're dating somebody, maybe not if you're single. Again I don't really know. [/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 [quote name='Gavin][SIZE=1']Even though cyber-sex doesn't actually count as cheating, because there's not physical intercourse it does break the spirit of the rule because you are engaging in a sexual act with another person.[/SIZE][/quote] [color=green]Cheating isn't constrained by physical actions. You can cheat on your girlfriend without any sexual act whatsoever, by giving yourself emotionally to another person. This certainly counts as infidelity. Cyber sex is like most other internet activities: a waste of time for those with nothing better to do.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Hunter Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Well personally speaking I'm not a big fan of the idea of cybersex. I'm not going to put down the people who do it but honestly I think there are so many better ways to deal with sexual tendencies then to do something as bizarre and out of place as that. As for the whole cheating issues if your in a serious relationship with someone and you engage in the activity of cybersex with someone else, it would count as cheating. Just like if you were actually having sex with another person or phone sex for that matter. My decision on this counting as cheating basically stems from the fact of being dishonest to the other party, relationships are built on trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenRaider Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 [quote name='vegeta rocker']really juvenile and stupid.[/quote] I love this quote as I get to guess a stereotype! I have only read two posts by you and I'm guessing one of two things, you are religious or young (under 16)? I say this because any one who has been in a sex shop gets the idea [b]very[/b] quickly that adults have some really strange fetishes and comes to the realisation that it is just another way to have some fun unless you like the normal positions and that is all you ever want in your love life. This of course makes anything related to sex that is strange not juvenile at all (as every one involved is older than the required legal age!) though possibly stupid. I think people should be free to do what they want in this area without others putting them down for it. So Cybering is just another angle on this and is basically a new form of phone sex, I don't see anything wrong with it. I find the idea of cheating to be silly, if people don't like a relationship they shouldn't be in it, so for me I don't hold a view there. And what is this assumption it is for people who can't get any, what about those living far away from each over that are to poor for phone calls (:p)? It personally makes me feel sheepish so I avoid it completely, Charles is right in my opinion. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amity Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 [QUOTE=Aiyisha][COLOR=Indigo][SIZE=1][FONT=Arial]Why is it stupid or juvenile? It's just two people using each other for kicks, or to help connect with their long distance partner. There's hardly anything stupid about it, and I don't think see how anything sexual can be juvenile. In it's simplest form, if it's not between devoted and in love individuals cyber is somewhat like a swingers party without the risk and more fantasy. If it is with a loved and cherished individual, it's akin to phone sex. No more. No less. I don't think you've ever done it, or don't understand it very well. I have done it, and it was enjoyable and very erotic. It was pretty much interactive erotica, in essence, but the person I was interacting with was (and still is) a treasured and beautiful woman I am madly in love with it instead of some lame bot or whatever. Nothing we've ever done has been 'juvenile or stupid'. I don't see where your opinion is even stemming from.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [font=times new roman][size=2]Every word I was to type. You already put it in.. There's nothing wrong with cyber-sex. Who cares if you've done it or not? Like I said, nothing wrong with it. As it may not be the real thing, at least it still shows that you can be/are sexually active. It is a whole lot safer too. Sure, it may strike others as, "Haha, you can't get any.." but still, it's really nothing to be ashamed of. It does have more fantasy, and to some, enoyable. No, I've never done it, but it's my opinion. It's not a stupid, nor is it a juvenile act.. I would add more to this, but Aiyisha has already made the point I was aiming for..[/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 [QUOTE=ForgottenRaider]I love this quote as I get to guess a stereotype! I have only read two posts by you and I'm guessing one of two things, you are religious or young (under 16)? I say this because any one who has been in a sex shop gets the idea [b]very[/b] quickly that adults have some really strange fetishes and comes to the realisation that it is just another way to have some fun unless you like the normal positions and that is all you ever want in your love life. This of course makes anything related to sex that is strange not juvenile at all (as every one involved is older than the required legal age!) though possibly stupid. I think people should be free to do what they want in this area without others putting them down for it. So Cybering is just another angle on this and is basically a new form of phone sex, I don't see anything wrong with it. I find the idea of cheating to be silly, if people don't like a relationship they shouldn't be in it, so for me I don't hold a view there. And what is this assumption it is for people who can't get any, what about those living far away from each over that are to poor for phone calls (:p)? It personally makes me feel sheepish so I avoid it completely, Charles is right in my opinion. :P[/QUOTE] I am 20 and am not very religious first off. I only said it was cheating if you were doing it with another person while dating someone else. I think its wrong, the same goes for having phone sex with someone else while in a relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 [COLOR=FireBrick][SIZE=1][quote name='Kamuro][SIZE=1']However, the internet is full of pervs and retards who would cyber with anyone or anything having the chance to do so.[/SIZE][/quote]...[BOT]-sex? Erhm, yeah. On to the topic... Cybering ain't as bad as some Internet propaganda would have it. For ultra-creative writers, cybering could very well be [i]the[/i] outlet to vent out their sexual frustrations. It's interactive and spontaneous. Downside is that if your connection is lame, your partner/s might view you as, well, frigid. And for all the aspects it shares with intercourse, cybering might actually count as cheating. But because you can't catch a bodily virus through it, I say go for it.[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari666 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 yeah emme was right in the whole its funny as hell ,but i do consider it cheating due to the fact that you would normally be hiding it from people true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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