Anime Church people saying anime is demonic and that it will poison our minds...

[Guest mllry]

[COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=4][FONT=Arial Black][I][B]I go to a Christian school and I cant even talk about anime in front of the teachers. One time I brought a Yugioh folder and the principal threw it away.[/B][/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Killer7]

See the Christian church calls [I]fiction[/I] "demonic", just like Harry Potter and the Da Vinci code. My advice: burn the cross in the church to show them how non-demonic Yugioh is. Of course you could also wear an anime t-shirt and sweatband, and walk into the school, of course the first one is better, but you might have to settle for the second one.

[Kuroshin13]

I think we're safer NOT burning the cross, before we end up proving them right in some twist of words. Although I do happen to like the idea of a big fire... But I say this: people are weird, and thats worse 'brainwashing' than the media.

I'll chalk that up to another reason I never go to church, religion class, etc. and aren't too fond of people in general (no offence to anyone, one of my best friends is Christian). I'm just glad I go to a public school.

[Brasil]

Cosplay or suicide. They're your only options.

[Maiya Asuka]

[color=#cc0000][size=2][font=Times New Roman]Pardon the assumption, but you're Catholic, aren't you? O_o

I'm sorry, but Catholic principles kind of frighten me. My friend used to go to a catholic school and some guy came in to talk to them. He gave her a list of "evil" bands. Among the list were bands like AC/DC... :rolleyes:

Her response to the list: [i]"Kurt Cobain is not 'evil'! He IS GOD!"[/i]

:animeangr Anyway... anything that provides joy in life is "sin" to the Catholic church. Pride is a sin. Lust (masturbation, or just having a pyshical crush on someone, etc.) is a sin. Fiction is a sin. I don't mean to offend because I know that not all Catholics follow these ridiculous principles... but... it's just frustrating.

And yes, I'm not surprised that a 'Christian' principle is "OMG that japanese animation is screwing with your head!" I think that's where so many kids these days get the idea that anime is stupid and that they [b]must[/b] make fun of otaku for expressing even remote interest in it. (My friends are sometimes even told, "OMG u need to liek stopp watchin them japnes cartoonz they messin wit yo head makin u turn lessbo...")

I think I'm getting carried away with this... better quit while I'm ahead. :animesmil

I'll just say, I have enough problems with the Christian faith without having to listen to "STOP THAT'S EVIL" or "THAT IS A SIN GET ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT" for anything enjoyable that you do. :rolleyes:

Oh, and please, no one get offended. I'm really not trying to offend anyone.[/size][/color][/font]

[SilentSecurity]

I really don't think saying a "Church people" are against anime. I got to a Catholic school and my principal started the anime club there. He also supplies money for us to buy new dvds, games, and whatever the club needs. Teachers also like the idea and don't mind if we use their rooms at all.

[lumpy3922]

I can't say that I understand because I go to public school. And at my school, we kind of do what we want. I think it's wrong for them to make those choices for you. It's your life, I think you should go all out. Get everything anime, shirts, folders, all the stuff. And tell them to piss of. They cant tell you what you can and can't with your life. Wow I'm such a reble.(lol)

[SilentSecurity]

[QUOTE=Maiya Asuka][color=#cc0000][size=2][font=Times New Roman]Pardon the assumption, but you're Catholic, aren't you? O_o

I'm sorry, but Catholic principles kind of frighten me. My friend used to go to a catholic school and some guy came in to talk to them. He gave her a list of "evil" bands. Among the list were bands like AC/DC... :rolleyes:

Her response to the list: [i]"Kurt Cobain is not 'evil'! He IS GOD!"[/i]

:animeangr Anyway... anything that provides joy in life is "sin" to the Catholic church. Pride is a sin. Lust (masturbation, or just having a pyshical crush on someone, etc.) is a sin. Fiction is a sin. I don't mean to offend because I know that not all Catholics follow these ridiculous principles... but... it's just frustrating.

And yes, I'm not surprised that a 'Christian' principle is "OMG that japanese animation is screwing with your head!" I think that's where so many kids these days get the idea that anime is stupid and that they [b]must[/b] make fun of otaku for expressing even remote interest in it. (My friends are sometimes even told, "OMG u need to liek stopp watchin them japnes cartoonz they messin wit yo head makin u turn lessbo...")

I think I'm getting carried away with this... better quit while I'm ahead. :animesmil

I'll just say, I have enough problems with the Christian faith without having to listen to "STOP THAT'S EVIL" or "THAT IS A SIN GET ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT" for anything enjoyable that you do. :rolleyes:

Oh, and please, no one get offended. I'm really not trying to offend anyone.[/size][/color][/font][/QUOTE]

First off Where the #### does your friend go to school vatican city? I brought a Black Sabbath CD to school and my teacher played it in class.

I go to a Catholic school now but before I went to a public. From what I've seen there are more anime lovers at the Catholic school then there was at my old one.

Also you think masturbation should be considered un-sinful? If your such a whack job that you have to stare at playboy while you [spoiler]jack off[/spoiler], yeah I'd consider you a sinner. I'm not a 'Catholic fanatic' hell I don't even like the pope we have now but, i'll sum this up in one word, DUH!

My point is I don't think it matters what religion you are or what kind of school you go to, there will always be teachers who hate anime, and teachers who support it.

[Dragonboym2]

[COLOR=Blue]There are still some Catholics and Christians that take everything to seriously. This isn't 1342 anymore, people. Get over it, will you?
My family's Catholic, but our relgion says that EVERYTHING is a sin. We're not even aloud to go to the bathroom. But that was the old days. You can still be relgious and all, it's just that you got to by your OWN belives. For exsample, the Catholic Bible says that all other relgions are impure, and wrong. Well, they were seen that way back when we had dead carts, and the plauge was going around. Not these days, we all get along no matter what we belive in. Don't be afraid to be who you are, okay?
Take care.

"KAMEHAMEHA!"

Dragonboym2[/COLOR]

[Lindus]

Yeah, those darn Church People. Because we know they're the only ones that make a stink about anime, right? :animesmil
This is one of those scenario by scenario things. It's not fair to judge an entire religion that way. Just like with lots of other things, you can have two sides of the extreme, where people can be very accepting or not. Being Mexican and Irish, I know plenty of Catholics that are very open to things like anime, but there's a few who aren't as well.

[AnimeFront]

Transfer to public school. It's safer and and you can express your anime opinion. And technically anime does oppose some of those deep christian fundametals, but that does not make anime evil, it makes anime bitchin.

[Cyriel]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=Sienna][QUOTE]burn the cross in the church to show them how non-demonic Yugioh is.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't this...completely NOT prove your point? Oh yes, let's show them how non-demonic it is by burning something down. Perfect plan - my advice is not to try it.

I understand that yes, there are some people in this world who take religion really to the extremes, saying HP is evil, that fiction is evil, that anime is evil...etc. However, I'm also pretty confident in the fact that usually this isn't the case. Really, have any of you attended any sort of Christian Asian church? Try it - you'll see there that in this case, it's almost weird [I]not[/I] to like anime. And seriously, I can tell you that it's not one of our priorities in Christianity to make sure that anime is proclaimed evil and to eliminate it from infecting future generations. Really people, there are a couple other things that take priority over that...=_=;;

[I]Edit:[/I] And somehow we've also gained our own species name: [I]church people.[/I] I wasn't aware that we were so morphologically different that we needed our own classification.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[Katana]

[size=1][color=royalblue]I've been slightly offended by things in this thread...I'm Catholic, and I've never ever heard anyone in my church say that there's anything wrong with anime. Yes, the crazier religions are all like "OMG(osh), FANTASY IS EVILLL! WE MUST BURRRRN IT!", but otherwise, things are pretty quiet. Remember, churches have become more relaxed in the past century. They realize times are changing. Though maybe not totally "up-to-date", they get the whole thing about new ideas.

One of my friends goes to a Catholic school, and all he whines about is how boring and strict it is. ^^;; One of my new friends used to go to one, and hasn't really said anything bad about it. We've talked about starting an anime club at school, and he has never given a hint that his former school wouldn't allow it.

Still, I wouldn't be suprised if some weird cult made the world's third-biggest bonfire by burning all the manga from bookstores in a thirty-mile radius...Just proves how dumb humanity can get when they're bored.[/color][/size]

[Hayama]

This is a loaded topic but I'll do my best...

I don't mind going to chruch and all but i think being kind and respectful of others is the most important thing. I can definately say I don't agree with everything out there. If my parents had sent me to a church school i would have... nevermind... all's right in the world because they're cheap and I went to a public school :catgirl: .

Even at a public school though, there are silly rules like no hats or whatever. Teachers at my school even took down all the flyers for a SCHOOL play because the flyers were made creatively so that they fit the setting of the play. Teachers thought it was for something non-conformist or whatever and took them all down. Then the kids in the play had to put them all up again. I think authority in general doesn't like anime for some reason.

The sad thing is... i dont think there is much you can do [I]about[/I] it. Talk to your parents about changing schools maybe? There's always the magic number 18 and college.

Maybe there are things you can do [I]in spite of[/I] it. My creative advice for the day would be to start an anime club amongst your friends and meet at eachother's houses (the houses where parents approve of anime) or at a public place like a park or mcdonalds or something. When you want to talk about your meetings while teachers are in earshot, just say stuff like "the 'culture club' meeting will be at 3:30." And there's hayama's creative advice.

[Darker Alucard]

what your not considering is yaoi and yuri. Crhistian people are against homsexuality, and most people when they see a single anime with it they say every anime as it. i am athee, and i love it that way. I got my own "conduct code sayind what's good and evil in my view.

[Delta]

[COLOR=DarkGoldenrod][SIZE=1][i]Thus falleth more souls into the fiery pits of hasty generalization.[/i]

I have a feeling that some of us judged the Catholic faith from what [i]other[/i] people told us about the Church. Catholic schools and what they teach aren't exactly the best representatives of the religion in general. Besides, a school can't posssibly stand for everything the institution is; some things are bound to be different as one looks at the rules and standards of each school. Just like how some are lax with anime and some aren't.

How a school is run also depends on the people at the helm. [i]People[/i] meaning individuals with their own belief systems and, in this case, misconceptions. Can't blame the whole school if the principal is bigot.

I say read more about Catholicism and the Church. It may help clear up a few things, yeah? (Plus you might pick up an idea that will stand that may help establish anime's, erhm, innocence)[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[joshdude89]

No offense to anyone but I think that some adult Christians and Catholics are crazy. Even though I am Christian and most of my friends and neighbors are we all like anime, video games, and yes, Harry Potter.

They also say the same things about video games. The Problem is that they didn't grow up with this stuff so they don't understand it. I say we have a march on Washington about how Anime, video games, and others are fine and they need to just live with the fact that we WILL READ, WATCH, and PLAY IT!!! :animeangr

[SilentSecurity]

Still I don't see where some people who've never gone to a catholic school think it's full of people saying all anime and video games should be burned. That might of been the norm in the 18th century or even when nuns taught, but not now. I asked the priest at my school today if there was anything wrong with anime and he said there is nothing wrong as long as it's clean. So what does that rule out, hentai and yaoi.

Our priest came to one of our anime showings for our school club. I think that night we were watching Outlaw Star, and then if you wanted you could stay the night for the Adult Swim showing of Bebop (the movie). I actually saw him smile at some parts of outlaw star (wasn't the hot springs episode).

So yes, some of those Opus Dei church conservatives might see anime as harmful and bad, but not all religious people.

[Fyxe]

[size=1][color=slategray]Some people are a little [I]too[/I] hardcore on the religion thing. Stay away from them. They get scary. But, the majority of the churches will be fine with the fact that you like anime, as long as you express your love for it in an [I]appropriate[/I] manor. Saying that all people that go to church are all bad and bent on hating anime is a little extreme, don't you think? There are plenty of religious people that like it, too.
I myself don't go to church, and I know why people don't take me. I'd probably stand up in the middle of a speech and start ranting about how the bloody hell could Mary still be a virgin. But, that's just me.

Anywayyy... if I were you, I'd just talk to your teachers/principals about the situation. Maybe you can work something out, explain some things to them, etc. If they still say no over unreasonable things, totally go for revenge. Ha. But I'll leave what you do.. well... up to you.[/color][/size]

[Horendithas]

[quote name='mllry][COLOR=RoyalBlue][SIZE=4][FONT=Arial Black][I][B]I go to a Christian school and I cant even talk about anime in front of the teachers. One time I brought a Yugioh folder and the principal threw it away.[/B][/I][/FONT][/SIZE'][/COLOR][/quote]

I think you are making a mistaken assumption here. Unless the major religions have actually put out a statement that I have not heard of, not one of them has publicly said they condemn anime and that the members of the church should avoid it.

Many churches do condemn homosexuality and series that are yaoi and yuri do have that in them. It seems to me that you are dealing with narrow-minded people who have decided that anime in general is bad. They are using religion as a means to condemn anime without bothering to find out if what they think is actually true.

Most churches do not back most of the fanatical behavior against anime or fantasy or games, instead many members decide that it is bad without any solid evidence or proof. They simply use their so-called Christian upbringing to justify their behavior in condemning anime.

I have found that it is best to avoid such narrow-minded people, as usually nothing you say will change their minds. Till later.

indifference

[jeian]

ok i'm not anyone or someone... but let me clear this... (plz read this if you know what's on the christian church's side)

I grew up watching anime... and i'll tell you what... anime is a damn thing..! look if you're a child of only 5-7(or maybe younger) you probably will think that what you see in tv is good... that is one thing that is againts the media... look anime's have fighting scenes and that some are really brutal... if a child saw this, of course he will think it's good... and the older people are aware of it... they just don't want their children to do those things... i did experience it... let's just say the Catholics sucks! their rules are way tooo strict... but then i am here... i battle with them... my point here is that, catholics are more serious in things like this... they wanted to live a life that what their god told them to... maybe in some situatiion things are worst than this... just like when they saw something that is anime, they will throw it of... christian parents are just religious enough to follow what their priest is doing... and let me have another point here... mass media has really done many bad things as we say... but then in my situation i was able to control myself... and do what is right... look, when i was young i love anime, as i grew i live it... here's another one... we can really never see an anime w/o fightings, right? that what christian people are avoiding... their child to be exposed in blood at a young age...my parents tried to get me out from the anime world... but then i'm still here...because i prove them wrong... i had a younger brother... i exposed him to anime... because i know he can live better using anime as his guide... my parents are aware with it... they knew what i'm doing... and their happy because i was influenced by anime on the bright side...it really does'nt matter if you're a christian or what...


P.S. All of my friends are anime fans, not addicts not so much obsessed... but we live an anime life...[COLOR=Indigo]undefined[/COLOR]

[Guest ShonenSamuraiMugen]

Let's get this straight...I'm a cristian. BUT I love Rock music, I'm a goth little punk, I also am obsessed with japan and anime, and as a bonus I've read all the Harry Potter books. So what? Shove it. It's never changed my religion.

[Guest raavahn]

hey ya Im a cristian too and ive watched anime all my life.
what people have to realize is that there are more than one group of cristians just like there are more than one group of any thing. some people don't like sum'thing and others do if every one could agree on everthing life would suck. but the problem is some churchs get agro on things they don't understand. at my church my pastor is a skater listens to Rock and so dose half the church(and im a baptist) some times people forget thats it not there job to make sure some ones kids are doing what you want but its that kids parents job to raise'em so if some one give you crap for stupid stuff like anime or harry potter don't get all agro right back at em thats just gonna make things worse, relize that there gonna die some day anthat they totaly missed the pointon the imprtant issuse and that God gonna call'em on it

[Prince Van]

I'm catholic and go to a christian school and honestly most of you are way off, for one my RE class had to watch a scene from Harry Potter and last year we watched one of the films all the way through. Rock was supposedly called the music of the Devil because Lucifer was the angel of music (I'm not too sure about that though) and Anime isn't that much of a big deal.

[Ima]

[SIZE=1]My advice to you is..... Become a Atheist. I do not believe in god I am not weak minded... Its that simple. People believe in god because people say he is real.... Well why do you need to believe in god? Because you cannot handle the pressure of everyday life. Im not getting into it but its simple... Tell the church to Beep off and to Beep themselves and you won't have to worry about it anymore. Tell that teacher of yours that maybe she is evil and he beliefs may be wrong... Tell her that and I bet she will say somthing like " YOU ARE OUT OF LINE BLAH BLAH BLAH" Its simple God will Forgive you in the end as long as you do not commit suicide... Read the bible and tell me that I am not incorrect.[/SIZE]