Prussian Blue: Disgusting

[Box Hoy]

Alright. Not sure if this is supposed to go in the Media Forum or here in the Louge. It kind of deals with both.

Anyways. This is disgusting.
[QUOTE]Young Singers Spread Racist Hate
Duo Considered the Olsen Twins of the White Nationalist Movement

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Prussian Blue

Oct. 20, 2005 ? Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.

Known as "Prussian Blue" ? a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes ? the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.

"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white ? we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."

April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs ? specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."

Teaching Hate

Songs like "Sacrifice" ? a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer ? clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund ? though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught...wanna read more? follow link

[URL=http://prussianbluefan.blogspot.com/]Prussian Blue Blog[/URL][/QUOTE]


Their official forums??

[URL=http://www.officialprussianblue.net/forums/index.php]http://www.officialprussianblue.net/forums/index.php[/URL]

I checked out the board and it's nothing but these ignorant narrowminded people who remind me slightly of Jack Thompson (lawyer involved in GTA Vice City drama)

I don't blame em though. Probably alot of people hate them for what they believe in. Racism against anybody who is not white, insulting people, KKK activity.

This is just sick. Two big events occured last night to do with this crap. One was an actual thing on Primetime about the band and their beliefs and the second is a bunch of these anti-racism people posting tons of crap all over the board only to get a ban.

Thoughts anybody?

[Manic Webb]

Awww. It's too bad those little girls will never live to see 18.

As I was reading the article, I kept thinking to myself "how the hell did these girls grow up racist in Bakersfield, California?" Then as I read further, I found out they were home-schooled. Anyone else notice that the racist kids are almost always home-schooled?

The nerve of these girls. "...we want to keep being white. We want our people to stay white." You know what? To a certain extent, I agree; nobody as ignorant as them should be allowed to reproduce. Let the rest of us "muddled" breeders fill up the gene pool with our race-transcending ideals and mixed-race relationships.

You know what these girls need? A big, black... listing. They should be blacklisted from record stores across the country.

And to think they call themselves Prussian Blue. Bob Ross and his goofy afro must be spinning in his grave.

[AnimeFront]

[quote name='Manic Webb']You know what these girls need? A big, black... listing. They should be blacklisted from record stores across the country.[/quote]

NICE!!!!!!!

Ignorance like theirs will never be accepted by educated people. They are just Poor White Trash(not trying to offend). They are not as bad as Vaginal Jesus but they need to be shot. Eventually someone will kil them and we can have a celebration.


I am going to seend them the song "Destroy Fascism" by Heaven Shall burn. ANd then they will get it. I recommend everybody download that song.

[Delta]

[COLOR=#656448][SIZE=1]^ Not ignorance, more like [COLOR=#F76590]miseducation[/COLOR] in my book.[quote][size=1]"They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."[/size][/quote]Alright with me but to instill such (biased) views into her children... there's something is wrong with their mom. I feel sorry for those girls; one day, they're gonna wake up and realize how infamous they've become because of their mother.

But I must admit, [COLOR=#F76590]Prussian Blue[/COLOR] is a rather catchy name.[/SIZE][/color]

[Sandy]

Heeey, I saw those two in a commercial of the "document" made by the Louis Theroux-guy about Neo-Nazis. Their father was scary, but those two skipping merrily around the nazi-cross singing some racist chant was way more scarier!

Those girls are definately brainwashed, and if they lived in my country, they'd surely be taken into care by the socialworkers... :/

[Pumpkin]

[quote name='Manic Webb']As I was reading the article, I kept thinking to myself "how the hell did these girls grow up racist in Bakersfield, California?" Then as I read further, I found out they were home-schooled. Anyone else notice that the racist kids are almost always home-schooled?[/quote][SIZE=1]Do not hate the girls, hate the parents for they are the ones that taught the girls such hate. I pity them because they may never realize what they say is wrong and hateful, to them its just how they were raised to believe (like those who were raised to believe gay marriage is wrong) but hopefully when their older they will have a new insight. But I doubt it.

I have a friend that lives in bakersfield so I found this article amusing. I go up there every so often to visit sand the first thing that I thought was the same as Manic Webb. Homeschool. Their parents are obviously telling fibs about how great Hitler was and what "good" he did, but what they do not know is how much suffering he caused. It's naive and many people will think that they know such things, but they really need to sit down with someone who went through World War II (such as my grandmother who lived in Hungary right next to Germany at the time and was forced out of her home) and what Hitler did to them and their people. Maybe then the light bulb will go on and this ideal of "[COLOR=#336699][i]White people need to be preserved[/i][/COLOR]" will finally be broken. [/SIZE]

[Manic Webb]

[quote name='Pumpkin][SIZE=1']Do not hate the girls, hate the parents for they are the ones that taught the girls such hate.[/SIZE][/quote]
"Boohoo, blame the parents." Their parents are no more or less guilty of being ignorant racists than they are. Their parents instilled racism them, too. And their parents easily fell for flimsily-reasoned propaganda written by a self-hating Jewish failed artist with daddy issues. These girls are [b]just as bad[/b] as their parents, and if they live long enough to have children, they'll teach their kids the exact same thing.

[Lafleur]

[COLOR=DarkRed]This is one of those times when freedom of speach has gone too far. I mean with the impressionable youth of today, what if we get a bunch of little girls going around saying 'Hiel Hitler!' and than saying they do it because it's cool? The fact that they're even alowed too make an album like this is rediculous! [/COLOR]

[quote name='Manic Webb]"Boohoo, blame the parents." Their parents are no more or less guilty of being ignorant racists than they are. Their parents instilled racism them, too. And their parents easily fell for flimsily-reasoned propaganda written by a self-hating Jewish failed artist with daddy issues. These girls are [b]just as bad[/b'] as their parents, and if they live long enough to have children, they'll teach their kids the exact same thing.[/quote][COLOR=DarkRed]

Which is why I hope they do a concert in Poland... aren't going too last longer there singing about how good the Fuher was![/COLOR]

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"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white,"[/QUOTE]
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Anyone think we should preform a reverse Micheal Jackson treatment on these twins just too spite them?[/COLOR]

[Doukeshi]

[SIZE=1]These girls being allowed to make an album based on their prejudices and racism, isn't that just like some black and latino rap artists putting white prejudices in their music.

For Example:

[B]"Like my niggas from South Central Los Angeles they found that they couldn't handle us; Bloods, CRIPS, on the same squad, with the Essays [Latino gangbangers] up, and nigga, it's time to rob and mob and break the white man off something lovely"; [/B] [I]"The Day the Niggaz Took Over"; Dr Dre, The Chronic, 1993, Interscope Records, under Time Warner in 1993.[/I]

Racism goes both ways I'm sorry to say and is fed by one group retaliating to another group.

What's going on here kind of reminds me of the movie 'American History X' and if these girls keep going on the way they are, they're going to get a big wake up call, especially in the music industry.[/SIZE]

[Lafleur]

[QUOTE=Doukeshi][SIZE=1]These girls being allowed to make an album based on their prejudices and racism, isn't that just like some black and latino rap artists putting white prejudices in their music.

For Example:

[B]"Like my niggas from South Central Los Angeles they found that they couldn't handle us; Bloods, CRIPS, on the same squad, with the Essays [Latino gangbangers] up, and nigga, it's time to rob and mob and break the white man off something lovely"; [/B] [I]"The Day the Niggaz Took Over"; Dr Dre, The Chronic, 1993, Interscope Records, under Time Warner in 1993.[/I]

Racism goes both ways I'm sorry to say and is fed by one group retaliating to another group.

What's going on here kind of reminds me of the movie 'American History X' and if these girls keep going on the way they are, they're going to get a big wake up call, especially in the music industry.[/SIZE][/QUOTE][COLOR=DarkRed]

We can quiet clearly do without them aswell. [/COLOR]

[Onix]

[COLOR=SlateGray][SIZE=1]While the brainwashing their parent's gave them is probably why they think the way they do, it is not solely the parents we should blame. They are humans, they have minds of their own, and they decided to give in to the oppressive, lie-filled doctrine fed to them, rather than look for alternative sources of information. The parents are guilty of being intolerant, controlling, and manipulative; the children are guilty of being naive and just plain stupid.

I'm surprised they haven't yet been boycotted, and the bastard, money-hungry corporation that let them get recorded, too. If I ever see one of their CDs, I will personally take it up with the management of the offending retailer then and there. It's a disgrace to music and humanity that these two brainless Neo-Nazis are allowed to sing and, cold as it may be, exist. All of mankind could do well without them and their kind.

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You know what the great part about this whole thing is? Listen to one of their songs. Just trust me. Hear that? It's the sound of really, really bad music, subject matter aside. I laugh every time they say "Victo-ray-ay."[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Ozymandius Jones]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=DarkOrange][QUOTE=Manic Webb]Awww. It's too bad those little girls will never live to see 18.

As I was reading the article, I kept thinking to myself "how the hell did these girls grow up racist in Bakersfield, California?" Then as I read further, I found out they were home-schooled. Anyone else notice that the racist kids are almost always home-schooled?

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In one moment of defense, I would like to say that the White Supremist can KEEP them, 'cuz the homeschooling community doesn't WANT them.

I was homeschooled from second grade to graduating; but my parents always taught me to think for myself, and to not follow things blindly. The community I grew up in was very multi-ethnic. As I was being homeschooled, I was being taught with a little boy who had spent the first six years of his life in Zaire, another little boy who was from Tailand, and a little girl from the Philippeans. And that was just [b]three[/b] of the families on my block. So...yeah, the homeschoolers do not want this...um...for lack of a better term? White trash.

Homeschool defense aside, I would like to say these girls remind me of something. The remind me of "In the Flesh" by Pink Floyd, with the "If I had my way I'd have all of you shot."

Anyone who reminds me of that song is to be ignored with all the disdain I can muster.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[Doukeshi]

[SIZE=1][QUOTE=Lafleur][COLOR=DarkRed]

We can quiet clearly do without them aswell. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

I know, but what I'm trying to say is, there is always so much more emphasis placed on white racism towards other cultures, hardly ever the other way round.

Although it is terribly sad that such young children are being used to spread this hateful message. Sorta like sticking a bomb in a teddy-bear. Get a load of this picture, I dare you to tell me its not in the least bit disturbing:

[URL=http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/129/1310/1600/DSCN0105.jpg][B]Scary...very scary[/B][/URL]


P.S You're right ULX, the music is seriously bad, even if one ignores the lyrics[/SIZE]

[Sage Kaley]

[QUOTE=Doukeshi][SIZE=1]

I know, but what I'm trying to say is, there is always so much more emphasis placed on white racism towards other cultures, hardly ever the other way round.

Although it is terribly sad that such young children are being used to spread this hateful message. Sorta like sticking a bomb in a teddy-bear. Get a load of this picture, I dare you to tell me its not in the least bit disturbing:

[URL=http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/129/1310/1600/DSCN0105.jpg][B]Scary...very scary[/B][/URL]


P.S You're right ULX, the music is seriously bad, even if one ignores the lyrics[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

That is very disturbing. I honestly can't believe they would wear that. Well actually given their songs and such it is quite believable. It's still disturning though.

You're right, racism in general is a very big problem. I think though that the reason we're all so surprised and upset over this is because it's coming from these younger girls. Like you said, bomb in a teddy bear. It's just sick. It would be just as disturbing, for me at least, to hear any racist remarks from young girls like that, who honestly believe what they are saying. It's sad to think these girls can just blindly believe something like that. I really would love to hear how they were taught WW2. It must have been hard to put a good spin on that.

And really, who is their record label? They are just as guilty of helping spread hateful messages. And of being greedy. Either way.

[eleanor]

[color=darkslateblue] And then one day a group of minorities attacked their house and they were shot. :D I listened to one of their songs, and I think they should learn how to play in tune and and you know... keep up with the tempo and stuff. And harmonizing. And uh. *coughs*

It was really bad music. And I wonder if the Olsen twins know about them. *snerks*

Seriously, I don't know how they think they're going to revolutionize America with their (crappy) music. They will spend their lives singing at random white-pride conventions and then die. Woo-hoo.[/color]

[Decadence]

[color=dimgrey] This is some what an aside, but for all you people who are surprised a record lable is carrying them, there are rascist lables. one example is a lable by the name of Panzerfaust. It carrys mostly skinheads who play metal, but I just thought I'd point this out.[/color]

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting.

It greatly saddens me to see that such hatred can come from people so young, both from these two young women and the view held by a number of you here who believe they should die for their beliefs, however misguided they are. In cases like these we must not preach hatred back against those who already do so, in doing such we only lower ourselves to their level. Instead we must forgive them for their views, and work to try and let them see how wrong their beliefs are, only then will the problem be solved. If these two young girls are killed, only martyrs will they become.

As an Irish person I know very well what it is like to be considered beneath others, while I have fortunately never experienced racist against me, the stories of how Irish immigrants were treated is something the Irish as a people will never forget. Before the Famine, which wasn't even a true famine, we were considered sub-human by the British, ignorant, Catholic savages who knew nothing of refinement or civilisation. When the Irish went to America in the 1800s we earned a new name for the way we were treated by the rich, the term was "[I]bleached *******[/I]". I have omitted the last word out of respect for those who might find it as offensive as I do.

And yet when we won our freedom from the British and worked hard to help build the United States, did we turn our collective anger back upon those who had mistreated us ? No, for hate only begets hate and hate and violence has never solved anything. The point to that small waffle was that we must always forgive those who mistreat us, whatever their reasons and no matter who misguided their beliefs, because whether or not they consider us human beings, we are and so are they. [/SIZE]

[Manic Webb]

[quote name='Gavin][SIZE=1']and the view held by a number of you here who believe they should die for their beliefs, however misguided they are.[/SIZE][/quote]
I don't think they [b]should[/b] die. I'm just saying they're making themselves targets. I'm sure Strom Thurman would've been taken out by somebody, were he not already old as dirt. Rest his soul, and may it find redemption from the fires of hell.

[Doukeshi]

[SIZE=1]Noone should ever die for their beliefs...ever. How many times have we seen this in history, of a person being prosecuted because of what they believe. This is how wars come about. Beliefs are a dangerous thing, as is hatred. Hatred begets evil, and since I honestly think that noone can be truly evil then so noone can truly hate, it is a pointless emotion that is bandied about far too often, without just cause or reason.

As Gavin said, they should be forgiven for their misguided hatred and an attempt should be made to stop it.

I have nothing against pride in ones own race, but in a time where race is no longer confined to a single nation or region but spread across the globe, absolute love of ones race disregarding and crushing everything else is just foolishness. Free speach is one thing, but inciting race hatred is another thing entirely.[/SIZE]

[Gavin]

[quote name='Manic Webb]I don't think they [b]should[/b'] die. I'm just saying they're making themselves targets. I'm sure Strom Thurman would've been taken out by somebody, were he not already old as dirt. Rest his soul, and may it find redemption from the fires of hell.[/quote]

[SIZE=1]I wasn't referring to you in particular Manic, just the general consensus that they deserve to die, whether that be through accident or murder. As I have already said, if we lower ourselves to using violence against these poor, misguided souls then we have only allowed them a victory over our better judgement. Also in reference to person who brought Poland up, Prussia, the once power centre of Germany, after whom these young women have taken their stage name now lies within Poland's borders.[/SIZE]

[Lafleur]

[QUOTE=Doukeshi][SIZE=1]Noone should ever die for their beliefs...ever. How many times have we seen this in history, of a person being prosecuted because of what they believe. This is how wars come about. Beliefs are a dangerous thing, as is hatred. Hatred begets evil, and since I honestly think that noone can be truly evil then so noone can truly hate, it is a pointless emotion that is bandied about far too often, without just cause or reason.

As Gavin said, they should be forgiven for their misguided hatred and an attempt should be made to stop it.

I have nothing against pride in ones own race, but in a time where race is no longer confined to a single nation or region but spread across the globe, absolute love of ones race disregarding and crushing everything else is just foolishness. Free speach is one thing, but inciting race hatred is another thing entirely.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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There is a certain point where the line must be drawn. These people are targeting [i]children[/i], whom we all know are incredibly impressionable, with their hate and their beyond-revisionist history. That is really, really bad - well, maybe not because they really, really SUCK at singing, but that hasn't stopped a few others... - because than you'll have an entire army of followers thinking how great Hitler and Himmler were. That is an offense punishable by death, in my opinion.

You can't be tolerent of everyone, and there are those who do not deserve tolerence. These two are an example of that. You can't simply forgive them - it doesn't work that way, unless you put the foot down they're message is going to spread, and if they somhow cease to suck who knows! Somtimes lowering to their level is the only way to eradicate them - because Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, al-Queda, etc etc simply don't deserve tolerence. They deserve the worst. [/COLOR]

[quote name='Gavin][SIZE=1']I wasn't referring to you in particular Manic, just the general consensus that they deserve to die, whether that be through accident or murder. As I have already said, if we lower ourselves to using violence against these poor, misguided souls then we have only allowed them a victory over our better judgement. Also in reference to person who brought Poland up, Prussia, the once power centre of Germany, after whom these young women have taken their stage name now lies within Poland's borders.[/SIZE][/quote]
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I'm well aware. My point was that Poland didn't fare to well because of what the so-called heroes, Himmler and Co', did, and I'm sure they'd be mighty pissed if he was called a hero.[/COLOR]

[Gelgoog Pilot]

Do the Olsen Twins actually sing? My god that's horrible....They must stink...

Personally...I blame the parents for being stupid skin heads. Then again, the two girls should learn eventually that what they are preaching is wrong by all standards. I'm sure they have lived a sheltered life...but...still...some one influencial to their lives has to be against what they are doing at some point in life.

[Doukeshi]

[SIZE=1][QUOTE=Lafleur][COLOR=DarkRed]
There is a certain point where the line must be drawn. These people are targeting [i]children[/i], whom we all know are incredibly impressionable, with their hate and their beyond-revisionist history. That is really, really bad - well, maybe not because they really, really SUCK at singing, but that hasn't stopped a few others... - because than you'll have an entire army of followers thinking how great Hitler and Himmler were. That is an offense punishable by death, in my opinion.

You can't be tolerent of everyone, and there are those who do not deserve tolerence. These two are an example of that. You can't simply forgive them - it doesn't work that way, unless you put the foot down they're message is going to spread, and if they somhow cease to suck who knows! Somtimes lowering to their level is the only way to eradicate them - because Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, al-Queda, etc etc simply don't deserve tolerence. They deserve the worst. [/COLOR]
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Dude, its attitudes like this that breed hate like theirs in the first place. How do you think radicalist groups think "what these [B][insert minority group here][/B] are doing is terrible, they must die!" Hate begets hate. For Gods sake it isn't like they've killed anyone. Comparing these people to Hitler is probably a compliment in their warped eyes.

I can't believe you used the word [I]eradicate[/I], like these people are vermin. Just because their views are misguided and prejudice doesn't mean they should be killed. Thats Stalin putting to death anyone who spoke out against his regime, its not what we as a society stand for.

I know you have good intentions man but thats what the road to hell is paved with.[/SIZE]

[Gavin]

[QUOTE=Lafleur][COLOR=DarkRed]There is a certain point where the line must be drawn. These people are targeting [i]children[/i], whom we all know are incredibly impressionable, with their hate and their beyond-revisionist history. That is really, really bad - well, maybe not because they really, really SUCK at singing, but that hasn't stopped a few others... - because than you'll have an entire army of followers thinking how great Hitler and Himmler were. That is an offense punishable by death, in my opinion.

You can't be tolerent of everyone, and there are those who do not deserve tolerence. These two are an example of that. You can't simply forgive them - it doesn't work that way, unless you put the foot down they're message is going to spread, and if they somhow cease to suck who knows! Somtimes lowering to their level is the only way to eradicate them - because Neo-Nazis, Klansmen, al-Queda, etc etc simply don't deserve tolerence. They deserve the worst. [/COLOR][/quote]

[SIZE=1]Indeed Ilium, these people in their misguided views deserve to be exterminated like vermin because their beliefs don't conform to yours ? Now let me think, that attitude sounds highly like someone from the late 1930s to the mid 1940s, damn now who was it, small Austrian man with a moustache. You'll no doubt have already guessed where I'm going with this point Ilium so I'll leave it at that.[/SIZE]

[Lafleur]

Tried to post this before, but my internet screwed up. Here I go again.

[quote name='Gavin][SIZE=1']Indeed Ilium, these people in their misguided views deserve to be exterminated like vermin because their beliefs don't conform to yours ? Now let me think, that attitude sounds highly like someone from the late 1930s to the mid 1940s, damn now who was it, small Austrian man with a moustache. You'll no doubt have already guessed where I'm going with this point Ilium so I'll leave it at that.[/SIZE][/quote][COLOR=DarkRed]

Gavin, your an Irishman. You've doubtless heard of the IRA and their escapades. Now, I'm going out on a limb here, but I assume their views don't agree with yours. All well and good, until the IRA became not only a different view but a threatening one. Do you not feel outright disgust? Don't you feel that somthing nasty should befall them?

My point is thus: The Neo-Nazis not only differ from my viewpoint, they threaten it. They aim to spread intolerent white supremeist views throughout society. Prussian Blue is especially disgusting - they target children, Gaving. [i]Children[/i]. They aim to turn the youth into some timebomb of intolerence, worse than it already is, through tried-and-true methods. We're lucky they're terrible - not that that's stopped certain artists from attracting legions of fans - otherwise they might get an honest fanbase for their white-supremist garbage. Neo-Nazism has been growing every year - it's still limited but every year more people desert reality and follow this fad. I don't know how it is in Irleland, it's likely a non-issue because of what happened on the Isles during the Wars.

Now you might say death is a tad extreme. And you may be right. But I've had my dealings with brainwashed individuals (Seperatists.. :animeangr ) and I know that, once you've been shovled revisionist history your entire life, simply being proven wrong is not enough. Somtimes extreme measures are necessary.[/COLOR]