Anime this is the "discuss anime without bashing" thread

[animekid17]

this is the thread to discuss anime and such without any "hey that series sucks" kinda junk. no bashing allowed in this thread :p

if you hate "inuyasha" keep it outta here. if you've got a problem with someones choice of anime, go tell it to someone else. this is a thread for "nice" discussion :D

i'll start, anybody else into ninja animes :cool:

[Delta]

[COLOR=#656448][SIZE=1]"Bashing", huh? I've always wondered why some people carp on anime like Inuyasha, Naruto and other series of their kind.

In my experience, these people have not a clue about the series/object of disparage because [i]they haven't seen a single episode of the series yet[/i]. All the hate, I believe, have been passed down from some otaku who sincerely despised the series and the copycats, in their quest to be the ultimate, over-achieving otaku, spread the hate and bash.

Mmm hmm. It sounds very GITS:SAC indeed.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[animekid17]

[QUOTE=Delta][COLOR=#656448][SIZE=1]"Bashing", huh? I've always wondered why some people carp on anime like Inuyasha, Naruto and other series of their kind.

In my experience, these people have not a clue about the series/object of disparage because [i]they haven't seen a single episode of the series yet[/i]. All the hate, I believe, have been passed down from some otaku who sincerely despised the series and the copycats, in their quest to be the ultimate, over-achieving otaku, spread the hate and bash.

Mmm hmm. It sounds very GITS:SAC indeed.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]well bro, there's none of that in this thread :nope:
I too disagree with all of the negativity, i'd say almost "EVERY" anime I enjoy watching has been thrown under the bus. :rolleyes:

[Magus]

Lol. No negativity eh. I can deal with that. (Atleast this forum can handle negativity better than the previous forums I've been to. So far anyway.)

[quote]i'll start, anybody else into ninja animes.[/quote]
I am. If I had to say, ninja / samurai animes are the animes that got me hooked on animes. When I 1st seen Ninja Scroll. I was impressed because of the fight scenes.

From there I went to Ruroni Kenshin. (I included samurai because they sorta of deal with the same concepts so to speak.)

But yes, I enjoy ninja animes very much although the ony ninja animes I've seen so far is Ninja Scroll and now Naruto.

Any others that I should know about?

[EVA Unit 100]

[quote name='Delta][COLOR=#656448][SIZE=1]"Bashing", huh? I've always wondered why some people carp on anime like Inuyasha, Naruto and other series of their kind.[/SIZE'][/COLOR][/quote]

Maybe it's because those actually have flaws and aren't perfect?

Seriously, I enjoy Naruto and 10 episodes in, I can already say that the 2D characterization (Naruto and Kakashi are cool, but Sasuke and Sakura don't really have much purpose other than to assist in the development of Naruto) and overusage of flashbacks could probably piss certain people off enough to make them dislike. I think Inu-Yasha is merely average: there IS no plot development and very little character development, so while it has its entertaining moments and has never insulted my intelligence like certain animes I won't name in this thread, it just isn't that good.

OK, I just heavily criticized two popular shows. THIS IS NOT BASHING! Bashing is insults given with either no reason whatsoever or with a reason that is completely illogical and/or just plain dumb. Statements such as "anime suxxors" is bashing. Statements such as "the anime industry is in decline due to oversaturation, not enough originality in style, and the increasing trend of having shows produced with little-to-no involvement with the artists" portray negative opinions but aren't bashing because they are clearly explained and don't try to be as offensive as possible to people with different opinions. What is the point of this thread? OB is a good board with excellent moderators who usually are able to prevent bashing in ALL of the threads and still allow people to express their opinions, be they good or bad.

(keep in mind that a lot of the reasoning behind making this post is because I think I know who animekid17 is)

[animekid17]

[QUOTE=] I think Inu-Yasha is merely average: there IS no plot development and very little character development, so while it has its entertaining moments and has never insulted my intelligence like certain animes I won't name in this thread, it just isn't that good.
[/QUOTE]I disagree I think inuyasha is a great show,be as negative as you want. my view isn't changing



[QUOTE=](keep in mind that a lot of the reasoning behind making this post is because I think I know who animekid17 is)[/QUOTE] it's possible but how.

[EVA Unit 100]

[QUOTE=animekid17]I disagree I think inuyasha is a great show,be as negative as you want. my view isn't changing



it's possible but how.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to be negative about Inu-Yasha. I just found it hard to enjoy the show after the first season. I'm not trying to say that you can't like Inu-Yasha. I'm fine with you having your opinion. I don't even think Inu-Yasha is bad; I just don't like it. You shouldn't be offended that I don't like the show, since I'm not bashing and I didn't even say the show was bad objectively.

Are you about 15-16 years old, female, Jewish, live in Massachusetts, generally very happy, have a younger brother, rented a kimono for Halloween, and babysit for some anime-obsessed kids occasionally? If so, I know you and you know me.

[animekid17]

[QUOTE=EVA Unit 100]I don't want to be negative about Inu-Yasha. I just found it hard to enjoy the show after the first season. I'm not trying to say that you can't like Inu-Yasha. I'm fine with you having your opinion. I don't even think Inu-Yasha is bad; I just don't like it. You shouldn't be offended that I don't like the show, since I'm not bashing and I didn't even say the show was bad objectively.

Are you about 15-16 years old, female, Jewish, live in Massachusetts, generally very happy, have a younger brother, rented a kimono for Halloween, and babysit for some anime-obsessed kids occasionally? If so, I know you and you know me.[/QUOTE]*LOL* no i'm a guy and i'm 18, and yes I do enjoy inuyasha :animeswea and I'm glad your not being negative, it's always nice to have someone who is decent enough to realize other opinions exist :D ;)

[IceRose]

I like anime, it doesn't matter what age group your from, if you like it good for you, if you don't that its personal decision and no one has the right to put down a person for that. I agree with animekid, its nice to have someone positive around here who doesn't critize.

[DarkDragon]

[quote name='IceRose']I like anime, it doesn't matter what age group your from, if you like it good for you, if you don't that its personal decision and no one has the right to put down a person for that. I agree with animekid, its nice to have someone positive around here who doesn't critize.[/quote]

[CENTER][COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=1]I'm going to have to agree with [B]IceRose[/B],
I don't think it matters what age you are
at all. It just depends what kind of person
you are.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/CENTER]

[sbrebaby]

[COLOR=DarkOrchid]I have always like inuyasha. I like things that are simple and are funny. I like the movies better though. Not alot of people watch shows that are laid back. I mean that have some comidy and an ok story line. I will tell you know that i started watching inyasha because of his ears :catgirl: there just so cute. As far the bashing thing goes i don't like it when people criticize me for my preference but i do like thier opinon on things. ;) [/COLOR]

[EVA Unit 100]

[quote name='IceRose']I agree with animekid, its nice to have someone positive around here who doesn't critize.[/quote]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH CRITICIZING THINGS!?! I LOVE a good anime, so if I see an anime which I don't love I basically need to criticize it. I'd never insult people who like those shows, but I have the right to express my opinion. I also have the right to express an opinion on shows that I DO love. That is criticizing as well. This is a free country, and you have to realize that all coins have two sides: if people can say things they like about stuff, they have to be allowed to say things they don't like about stuff as well.

I really don't know why this thread is still open. Most of the people who have posted in this thread express that someone else's opinion can't change their own. If you're that strong, why aren't you strong enough to post your opinions in more fitting threads (which don't contain bashing, but allow people to speak their minds).

[Bloodseeker]

What's wrong with attacking a show's flaws? It creates good conversation for both sides of the argument. The attackers get to reveal why the show is NOT perfect, and the defenders get a chance to truly explain why their favorite show is great, despite its flaws. On top of all this, both sides usually get a better understanding as to why others don't necessarily agree with their opinion.

For instance, through the conversations that I've had about Evangelion, I've learned that whether or not a person likes it relies heavily on how much they like the characters. People that love Eva will rave about the awesome and well developed characters (or will always be a strong fan of at least one of the characters), while people that hate it will always complain about how the show's characters are irritating. Some of them will try to chalk it up to bad character developement, but that argument always becomes moot as soon as somebody points out how much the characters evolve as the show goes on.

[IceRose]

I'm sorry of people view that I post here because I'm afraid of been critizized but its not true, I've been picked on and pretty much been somewhat laughed at for liking certain shows and I thought that at least I had found a thread where others respected each other for what they liked and not say mean things about it but I guess I was wrong. I love Inuyasha, I love Vandread, I love Cowboy Bebop and I love Sailor Moon.

[Umbra II]

I agree with EVA unit. Criticiisng is not bashing. And if you want everyone to say all nicey-nice things about every anime, you are sadly mistaken. By limiting yourself to only the good side of the subject, you are blinding yourself. (And being politically correct, which I dispise with a vengence) Now, I am not saying anything is bad or wrong, criticising is just pointing out the flaws in an otherwise good (or not) anime.
For instance, while I disagree with Eva unit when they say Inu Yasha has no charactor development (that is one of its strongest points, mind you, with the whole softening of Inuyasha's heart, Songo and her brother, Songo and Miroku, ect) I would also liek to say that the plot line is really drawn out and has many extra stuff not really nesecary to the story. But it does have some plot. And I happen to like Inuyasha as well. (I'd better, I spent a lot of money on it).
So, that is my justification of criticising and its acceptibility whereas bashing is not.

[IceRose]

Sorry I guess I got sentimental :animeswea overreacted, sorry people Its one of those days that are very emotional, I got a C on a paper sorry if I just yelled out.

[Magus]

My thing with this is that it's just opinions. If you take offense to what someone says about a show you like then..... "shrugs" It's on you. I can understand where some of you are coming from with people bashing shows you like and all. (Saying this show sucks or that show is crap.) During the time I've been here... (about 3 - 4 days) From the threads I've observed / been to, none of the threads seems to bash a show. (Maybe we have different meanings of bashing)

The threads I've been to (this included) have people stating why they don't care for the show as much as others may do. I for one have brought up me not praising over Inuyasha in that other thread. And animekid seemed to have took it like I was trying to change his views on the show. That is not true at all. When I first heard about Inuyasha and the praises it got from other people. I'm literally expecting this show to be perfect. While it is a decent fun show, I expected alot more out of it. (Especially after being amazed by Rurouni Kenshin's action sequences) Thus making me not that big of a fan. Again... this is merely my opinion. I don't post to offend anyone (unless you really urk me) or try to change their view.

With that said. Like IceRose, I've been taking a liking to Vandread. Interesting way to go about men and women. I don't think I've mentioned this before, but I've never been a fan of the whole comedy genre in animes, but this one is an exception. I've found myself laughing at this show. The graphics addition was nice as well. And for some odd reason I find myself liking the music as well.

[sbrebaby]

Qoute"WHAT IS WRONG WITH CRITICIZING THINGS!?! "byEva unit100

The difference between "bashing" and criticizing is that Bashing is point blank telling someone that that show suckes and that the person is stupid for watching it. They may comment on the show that they like and why they don't like the show thats criticizing a show. If you like a show and someone else doesn't then you need to say why in a proper fashion instead of just being evil :demon: :devil: and sayin the first thing that comes to your mouth. I like somethings others don't its your opinion not someone elses on what you like. people need to relize that. I do like a heated discussion on the things i like from others perspective but some times you need to hear what other people like and why with out the criticizing. :idea: