Guest Saredheart Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 [COLOR=Navy]Any LP fans out there? Anyone? If so, then who's your favorite LP member? :catgirl: [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renayiiq Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Even though I see this as pointless, because I've been in the LPU and there were so many threads like this that you could puke, but ah, what the heck. I love Linkin Park, I have been a fan for 4 years, and I've stuck with them as one of my most favourite bands, even if I don't agree with everything that they do. I'd have to say that Mike Shinoda is my favourite member. I don't like him in the regular cliché "oh he's so hot" type of way. I like the fact that he's a multi-instrumentalist, and that he is great at writing songs. He is also clever as a rapper/MC, whichever you prefer to call him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesintheshadow Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 As long as LP has been around i have been a big fan. Until they made the mistake of teaming up with Jay-Z. That was where i lost all respect for them. I think that that was the biggest mistake they will ever make. However, before that i had every one of there cd's, knew just about all there songs by heart, and they were one of my favorite bands until they mad that one mistake. i have not listened to anything by them since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceRose Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Agree with Eye, they made a mistake by teaming up with Jay-Z, I think a couple of their original fans lost respect for them, not me though, I love them but they need to get away from making stupid remixes in rap of their original music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renayiiq Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 [COLOR=Red][SIZE=3]And I [/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkOrchid]MUST[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=Red][SIZE=3]make a note of this, for anyone thinking that Linkin Park does not belong to a specific genre:[/SIZE][/COLOR] Linkin Park is NOT a combination of anything. Mike just raps over rock, and Joe just scratches. There's not a single element of REAL hip-hop in the music, except on Reanimation, and in the song Nobody's Listening. Cure for the Itch and Kyur4 Th Ich were the two songs closest to any form of dance or techno. They are modern rock, with a bit of scratching and some rap over it. They are NOT a "hybrid" form of music. Just rock. The project with Jay-Z was great, in my eyes, but they need to put out a new album. Actually, I don't think that they ever will. I think that LP is done. Ils sont finis. I do like Mike's Fort Minor stuff, though. I hope he continues with his own stuff. As for going back to Linkin Park, I don't see it happening, at least, not for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otaku_phil Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 [quote name='IceRose']Agree with Eye, they made a mistake by teaming up with Jay-Z, I think a couple of their original fans lost respect for them, not me though, I love them but they need to get away from making stupid remixes in rap of their original music.[/quote] Another person has to agree with this, lol, Linkin Park just plain sucked when they teamed up w/Jay Z, giving it more of a hip-hop effect, imo, that was probably the worst thing for LP to do, if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Blade Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 [size=1][color=slategray]Aw, come on Whats with the "LP sucks now because they are in allience with Jay Z". Does this mean that there are seriously no LP diehart fans. I have been a fan of their music for three years tops. Despite the blooper that LP made with Jay Z shouldn't be taken to the heart completely. It was a one time thing. I don't like rap or hip-hop never did and never will, but I still remain a faithful fan to LP. Plus if you ask me it's kinda stupid to hang on to the past, especially when the song "Numb" was originally sung without Jay Z. So if you don't like listening to Jay Z sing a duet with LP, then listen to the original version. Nobody is forcing you to listen to Jay Z and LP. There are lots of LP songs without rap artists. I know I sound pathetic, but it's the truth. [/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 If anything, working with Jay-Z was the best thing they could possibly do because Jay-Z freaking rocks. Anyone that "lost respect" for them when they did an album of that sort is really just a moron. Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album render everything by Linkin Park as strictly amateur. "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" alone is better composed and realized than any Linkin Park song I can think of. Obviously this is my opinion, but I don't know how anyone can feel less for this band by teaming up with the guy. As for this whole "they're not a combination" or they "have no aspects of REAL hip hop"... Come on. It's an obvious influence and affects things. As soon as you plop in hip hop styled sampling and turntables and any sort of rap or syncopation that's reminiscent of hip hop, it's an influence and thus an attempt at some sort of combination. Whether or not you want to just realize it and admit it is irrelevant; just because they don't sound just like Mf Doom with a guitar doesn't mean much for this. There's a hell of a lot of bands that do this stuff better and have been doing it longer, either way. In addition, why people listen to a group that obviously is influenced by hip hop and its syncopation and then complaining about when they rap is just outside my realm of thought. Why even like this band in that case? Bennington's horrid yelps are sure as hell not enough to balance things out. If that's all you really care for, there's enough groups out there that just do the rock/alternative side of their sound... and many of them do it so much better. I obviously dislike Linkin Park, so anything beyond that is not worth saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eureka Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I looove linkin park. One of my absolute favorites I love hybrid theory. :animesmil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renayiiq Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 [QUOTE=Kotoko_Hikari]I looove linkin park. One of my absolute favorites I love hybrid theory. :animesmil[/QUOTE] I agree! I'm listening to Fort Minor right now, too...speaking of LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sesshysgirl Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 [quote name='eyesintheshadow']As long as LP has been around i have been a big fan. Until they made the mistake of teaming up with Jay-Z. That was where i lost all respect for them. I think that that was the biggest mistake they will ever make. However, before that i had every one of there cd's, knew just about all there songs by heart, and they were one of my favorite bands until they mad that one mistake. i have not listened to anything by them since.[/quote] i also think it was a mistake for teaming up w/ jay-z also, it just runined them. i like their older stuff. i dnt like their second cd either. it just plain sucks. ne ways i like hybrid theory and meteora. i like the tatoo on that one guy w/ the flames like halfway up his arm. :catgirl: ne way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbye, Face Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 [font=trebuchet ms]Oooh boy, I could have hours of fun with this one. I read this topic earlier today and when I had my friend over, I asked him to bring his LP/Jay-Z cd over so I could get a real opinion about it. Honestly, teaming up with Jay-Z was probably one of the best things that LP accomplished. Granted, Hybrid Theory was good, in uhh... middle school... but they had some catchy songs, lyrics that occaisonally felt less like bad gothic poetry and more like a band that is being told to fit into an image, and their own mostly unique style that is hard to emulate. I really can't understand how LP fans say that LP is their favorite band, yet say things that Hybrid Theory was their only good cd, or that combining it with rap was a mistake. How the hell does that work? How can you hate a band for trying to add talent to their music? In any case, I dislike Linkin Park. Their lyrics don't speak to me, their music doesn't affect me, their fans are mostly people who think that they're depressed, cut themselves for no reason, or are into music for the fashion. All I see is a group of guys who are extremely successful at being a fake rock band. Rage Against the Machine was better anyways. If I have truly offended you by stating my opinion, I'm sorry. Feel free to IM me so we can talk it out.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010DigitalBoy Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 O_o how'd I miss this? Anyway, Ive been an avid LP fan since they starrted and my love for them has yet to die. I've probably listened to the first album more than any ever (which means at least 236 times) and I still listen to it often. I like Meteora more though becasue almost all of the songs relate to my personal life. I listened to it a lot recently when I was going through a depression and it helped me realise exactly what my probalems were so I could annihilate them. As I did this, less and less of the songs described me and I was ahppier. There are still a fe that fit me, though... I have found that on each album there is one all-Chester song that I like and one Mike/Chester song I like most, those being One Step Closer, Forgotten, Breaking the Habit, and Figure .09. Once my brother and I sang a duet of Forgotten XD it was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Webb Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I find it so funny when rock fans who dislike rap and claim to be Linkin Park fans claim that the band has no hip-hop influences. Sure, I suppose you could say Linkin Park is completely devoid of hip-hop... once you get rid of the turntables and MC. An MC who, by the way, is releasing a hip-hop album this week. :rolleyes: As a fan of both hip-hop and rock, I've been a Linkin Park fan since Hybrid Theory. I loved Meteora, and their compilation with Jay-Z had only one bad song. It does get easy to get tired of them, however, as the subject matter & lyrics of their songs get quite redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renayiiq Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 [quote name='Manic Webb']I find it so funny when rock fans who dislike rap and claim to be Linkin Park fans claim that the band has no hip-hop influences. Sure, I suppose you could say Linkin Park is completely devoid of hip-hop... once you get rid of the turntables and MC. An MC who, by the way, is releasing a hip-hop album this week. :rolleyes:[/quote] All's Mike does is rap over the rock. THAT'S IT. I mean, if they were putting a little more into it besides someone just rapping over the rock, then it could be considered a real element from hip-hop. And have you noticed that all Joe really does is turntables? I mean, besides samples and pressing buttons on that little keypad thing. I used to be a hardcore fan, and now I'm just mediocre because I woke up and realized that they were just like Limp Bizkit, except there's Chester. And their lyrics are almost all the same in content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbye, Face Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 [font=trebuchet ms]What a lot of people don't understand is that Linkin Park was a group called Xero, which sounded similar to some stuff by POD. It was when Chester joined that they became a "rock band." Before that, it was just hip-hop with guitars. If anything, Linkin Park is more rap-influenced than rock-influenced. I know, why don't we call them a pop band and get it over with? Sure, they're not the Backstreet Boys, but they have the same amount of popularity and insane fans.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomura Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 It's not right to call them a pop band. They're not. They classify as Alternative Rock. Plus, pop is dead...LOL. I'll tell ya, Linkin Park is my favorite band. I love their hip-hop clashed with a sense or hardcore rock. Plus the band sees no point in cursing in their lyrics since it only makes the song worse. Thats a plus. I'm not a big fan of hearing five different curses in one song... :animeswea ... Plus, Chester's voice can change from soothing, sad, rugged, angry, and many different sounds. Mike's lyrics and rap are alot better than any regular Rapper's, I think. I really can't stand all the perverted mess, that 50 cent's throwing on the media. No wonder he got shot so many times... But being serious, Linkin Park is an awesome techno, retro, punk, hardcore, metal,hip-hop etc. etc. etc. band. :animesmil They might still be popular in a couple of years, of course I'm not so sure about that... I just know that I'm a giant fan of LP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolut1on Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 [quote name='eyesintheshadow']As long as LP has been around i have been a big fan. Until they made the mistake of teaming up with Jay-Z. That was where i lost all respect for them. I think that that was the biggest mistake they will ever make. However, before that i had every one of there cd's, knew just about all there songs by heart, and they were one of my favorite bands until they mad that one mistake. i have not listened to anything by them since.[/quote] :mad: [COLOR=DarkRed]People like you really piss me off. They made a six song CD/DVD with a guy and all of a sudden they're not one of your favorite bands anymore. That makes no since. I personally am a Linkin Park fan, they're my favorite band. I think teaming up with Jay-Z was pretty cool. They obviously realize that their music has been and probably always will be influenced by hip hop. And one of the main reasons that you haven't listened to anything by them since is because collectively they haven't released anything new since then. [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomura Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Yeah, man, Jay-Z was cool. He worked pretty good with the band, made some good songs etc. So what if they once in their life cursed? So what if they mixed genres? So what? It was just a great once in the lifetime experience for the band. I mean, they were the Hybrids already, so it didn't affect the whole sound of the music. They did pretty good. Oh and for you renayiiq... They're the Hybid theory. They mix RAP with ROCK and come out with them. So yes, Mike raps over rock,so they can have hip-hop elements in their music. That's what makes LP a different new alternative band. One more reason to just love 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Webb Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 [quote name='renayiiq']All's Mike does is rap over the rock. THAT'S IT. I mean, if they were putting a little more into it besides someone just rapping over the rock, then it could be considered a real element from hip-hop. And have you noticed that all Joe really does is turntables? I mean, besides samples and pressing buttons on that little keypad thing. I used to be a hardcore fan, and now I'm just mediocre because I woke up and realized that they were just like Limp Bizkit, except there's Chester. And their lyrics are almost all the same in content.[/quote] So you're saying that rapping and scratching turnables doesn't count as a hip-hop influence? That is so cute. By that logic, there's no hip-hop influence in hip-hop. All they do is rap and use turntables, right? I also suppose "Walk This Way" by Run DMC and Aerosmith doesn't count as containing hip-hop. I know this is going to be hard for you to accept, but Mike Shinoda and Mr. Hahn use hip-hop elements in Linkin Park songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomura Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Thank you, Mr. P Manic Webb. It always helps when a mod is backing you up on your answers to a thread... What? You dropped the P? Oh...LOL. Being serious, he's right. Like it or not. LP contains many many many hip-hop elements. Without 'em, LP wouldn't be LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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