Manga how do other dojinshi writers get ideas

[ichibanotakubak]

well heres my story
last year for art we had to make a comic, and i didnt have a story line so when there was only a week left in class i still had twenty pages to do and shot them all out quick ly.

this year I was selected to go to a asian art fest and my teacher wants me to make a manga. its good that its due at the end of the year because Its been two weeks and ive come up with 1000 ideas but i either realise its been done or i just dont like it.

my goal in life is to go to japan to get into the non ecchi dojinshi bussness(its not going well :animecry: ) therefore-- how do people come up with storys?ive been researching like crasy and i still dont get it please post ideas

[Kei]

[color=darkblue]Well, there're many ways one can go about this.

If you have so many ideas, write them down. That's the best way to try and organize your thoughts. Once you do that, look them over and think over each one. Can you imagine the complete plot? Can you see all the characters? Not just their appearance, but their strengths, weaknesses and quirks? What about the plot? Can you see all the places you want your characters to go? Can you see what you want them to do?

Manga are stories told with pictures and dialouge. You're showing your reader what you see when you're telling the story, therefore, storylines are all about development. If you can't develop a strong plot and good pictures from the very beginning, you're pretty much digging your own grave.

Sit down, think about things, and you should be able to come up with something. You may not be able to pull a Takahashi or be the next Tite Kubo, but at least it's a start, heh. ^^;

Hope that helps.[/color]

[ichibanotakubak]

[QUOTE=Lady Katana][color=darkblue]Well, there're many ways one can go about this.

If yuo have so many ideas, write them down. That's the best way to try and organize your thoughts. Once you do that, look them over and think over each one. Can you imagine the complete plot? Can you see all the characters? Not just their appearance, but their strengths, weaknesses and quirks? What about the plot? Can you see all the places you want your characters to go? Can you see what you want them to do?

Manga are stories told with pictures and dialouge. You're shoeing your reader what you see when you're telling the story, therefore, storylines are all about development. If you can't develop a strong plot and good pictures from the very beginning, you're pretty much digging your own grave.

Sit down, think about things, and you should be able to come up with something. You may not be able to pull a Takahashi or be the next Tite Kubo, but at least it's a start, heh. ^^;

Hope that helps.[/color][/QUOTE] arigatou gozaimashita katana dono

[Kei]

[color=darkblue]Iie, demo...

One-liners and such things like that are really discouraged around here unless they're very focused on the topic at hand. Try to keep that in mind for me, ne? ^^[/color]

[duoikari]

i find that it is just easier to draw out a small manuscript first and try to figure out in your head of how the story will go. Or you could write a fanfiction but then again, if your like me then you may loose interest in the story all together.

I think most other artist get their ideas from books and then adapt the idea to an anime style, it's a bit like one fanfic i wrote, i used the characters from gundam wing but used the plot from the japanese film freezer, but i changed a hell of a lot though(mostly the part where she kills eveeryone). I found that writing a fanfic, wheather it's original or not helps you think up more ideas. You have a simliar dream to me, i want to go to japan and be a yaoi artist, but most doujinshi artist start off with anime fan comics like the one who done viewfinder, she started off doing slam dunk artwork and then worked her way up from there.

But then again what did you want to base the dounjinshi on, thais would be a great help if you tolds us what it was.

[Nomura]

Doujinka are just manga fan fictioners right? Well , read some fan fics, get some ideas, make a better big great idea, plot characters, frame, and start drawing. That's my step chart on what to do. :animesmil :animeswea

[Kei]

[color=darkblue]I could be wrong here, but I think that a lot of people out there classify doujin as both fan works and orgininal manga that they've done but hasn't been published.

And I agree that it might help looking over some manga to see how they progress their storylines and such for reference, but just stealing their storylines and changing them around with your own characters would be bad, lol.[/color]

[Nomura]

Oh no, I didn't mean that, but yeah LOL, that would probably be called plagierism. Sorta like fan art on one half, and brain-stew on the other right? :animeswea

[duoikari]

if i were you i would do a fan manga, something like a naruto doujinshi or something. I personally started on gundam wing images and then developed the characters in my head and put them on paper. It's like i did enjoy drawing gundam wing but i love drawing my own roiginal characters more, take the image below

[IMG]http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5329/duoikari2020kenji20and20makino.jpg[/IMG]

Now i used a gundam wing image as a reference but i adapted it to my own style and to suit my own characters where as

[IMG]http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6892/79422200509191423105rt.jpg[/IMG]
With this pic i just drew the two images and put them together, to make this lovely pic :animesmil

My message to use is try doing a bit of both but instead of copying just adapt the character into you own style.

[ozmos]

[QUOTE=duoikari]if i were you i would do a fan manga, something like a naruto doujinshi or something. I personally started on gundam wing images and then developed the characters in my head and put them on paper. It's like i did enjoy drawing gundam wing but i love drawing my own roiginal characters more, take the image below

Now i used a gundam wing image as a reference but i adapted it to my own style and to suit my own characters where as

With this pic i just drew the two images and put them together, to make this lovely pic :animesmil

My message to use is try doing a bit of both but instead of copying just adapt the character into you own style.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I couldn't agree more, there is really no point in drawing something that isn't you (atleast that's what I think). Whenever I draw fanart I try not to look at the referance that much, but of course in some cases I have to look at some referance so that I don't get the clothes wrong for example.

(And sorry I removed the pictures from the quote, the quote just got too damn long :))

[duoikari]

yeah i also get what you mean but there are just some picture out there that i look at a go 'Wow that pose is really good for the Naruto pic that i want to draw'. OR i good be flicking through my images and just see one image that will inspire me and i just have to print it out.

[2010DigitalBoy]

[COLOR=Purple]If your good at drawing but bad with storylines, find someone whos good with storylines and bad with drawings. Youll have no choice but to work together! For instance, I can come up with a plotline beginning to end for an anime in 5 minutes, create the charachters in the next 10, give them backstorys 5 minutes each, and then create the script within a couple days. I cannot draw at all.[/COLOR]

[duoikari]

[quote name='Hug Monster][COLOR=Purple']If your good at drawing but bad with storylines, find someone whos good with storylines and bad with drawings. Youll have no choice but to work together! For instance, I can come up with a plotline beginning to end for an anime in 5 minutes, create the charachters in the next 10, give them backstorys 5 minutes each, and then create the script within a couple days. I cannot draw at all.[/COLOR][/quote]

I have that same problem, i can think up lots and lots of storylines but when it comes down to drawing it on paper i just can't even though i am a half decent drawer

[ozmos]

[quote name='duoikari']I have that same problem, i can think up lots and lots of storylines but when it comes down to drawing it on paper i just can't even though i am a half decent drawer[/quote]

Hehe... I am the complete opposite, the problem is that I think its too booring to come up with twists, backstories and such, coming up with ideas is lots of fun but writing the scrip... zZzzzZzz.

[skatepixie]

[COLOR=magenta]I dont really have any set way of coming up with ideas. They just pop into my head, really. The trick is to develop that daydream into an actual story. One way that helps if you are stuck is to start with either a setting or a character...and then let it almost write itself.[/COLOR]

[Ohkami Buster]

Hmmm... these are very interesting. ^_^ :animesmil :D

Well I can say that you may get some existing series as your references, but it would be better if you also take some references from real life photos, it'll help a lot.

I used to use some anime images to copy but someone told me to make my own, I followed the advice then started to draw on my own pose, own style. Then after a few weeks, I got what the advice means. It really works! ^_^

It really feels good if someone sees your work, then they say that you have a unique style!

Edit:

[quote name='duoikari']I have that same problem, i can think up lots and lots of storylines but when it comes down to drawing it on paper i just can't even though i am a half decent drawer[/quote]

Same goes with me. But I can overcome it. I can feel it. ^_^ Just work hard! :animesmil

[color=darkblue][size=1][b]In the future, please remember to use the Edit button to add something to your posts, as double-posting is not allowed on OB, thanks. ^^ -Lady K[/b][/size][/color]

[duoikari]

hey, had a look at your artwork, people listen to this person they are at pro standards!. Love your art by the way, but i just like images of women.

As i have said before i can't draw women, mostly porblem cos i'm a girl myself but i much prefer men, or drawing boys. Girls are just too curvy and well i can't draw them. But then again with some images that i do if you just change the features around it would be a girl.

I also agree with okhami, when he says use real life images, if you ever watch comic party or SP even they say to use photos of reall thins of people. Sometime when i'm drawing on m own i'll try to imagine what the pose would look like espeacially hands, i hate drawing hands :animeangr and feet and eyes, they are the only thing i really suck at drawing. And yet my friend can do eyes but she can't do hair, whereas i'm really good at drawing hair and i think the hair is the easiest part to do :catgirl: .

So it just shows that some people are weaker at things then others, at the moment i'm trying to draw animal people, not completely animal, just ears and tails added, i need to draw a rabbit and a wolf for a comic that i really want to do but give me about a month and i'll total go off the idea :catgirl: that just the way i am.

[kitsunekami]

well, go to japan and do non ecchi? that's possible, non H? maybe not. but you didn't say that so i must assume.
anyways, how do you get ideas? you look around you, a picture, a book, scribbles, anything at all. i dun understand your question that well. but from wat i have heard, fan comics are a very good start. simply cause you can choose somthing that you have passion for so it comes easier.

[You Don't Care]

Questions to concider when writing:

1.What is the reason for the story?

2.What would I like the readers to interpret my story as?

3.Does my plot have dilemma?..romance?..suspence?..trauma?

4.Wouls the dialogue be meaningful or blantantly passive?


Come up with questions on your own. But sometimes, the most questions would be worthless depending on genre...

There you go:

1.What is the genre?

[duoikari]

I agree with everyone on everything that they have said, i personally use films like my fafci school days (which was taken off of the otakuboard) :animesmil But anyway for the fafic i used the film Freezer as a references, well i say references, the story line were the same but it involved all guys instead of the stupid girl that run around in the film :p . But for my other fanfics i used my own imagination and the plot itself were very complex and original so what can i say, but then again original doesn't always sell, for example the fanfci that was based on the film freezer got over 1500 hits where as the other one (which was mostly original) only got 200 hits

[Dale_Valley]

im kinda like hug monster there. my mind is constanly over flowing with ideas. at random points i just get inspiration, in the shower, after watching an action flick, in the shower, seeing a really funy comericial , in the shower, while looking at a military magizine and in the shower are just a few of my favorite times to be inspired,. the most incredible jaw dropping make yiouo wanna drool stuff. but i can draw worth a @#@$#$@$#%^$%@^$&@%. yah its that bad. but any way thats not the point. when you get insprired there is a key. the three R's REMEMBER REMEMBER REMEMBER REMEMBER. (yes thats 4) like good ol lady katana said, write it down. my personal suggestion is to always have a Handy Dany Notebook and a good qauality Squiggly Diggly Pen on you at all times so that you can write stuff down. Even in the shower, i keep a norebook sitting on the toilet. (wait, thats why theres water stains all over it!)