Gaming Do You Think Sex Should be on Video Games?

[serenayasha]

I do think it shouldn't because thats just wrong and pluse ewwwwwwww.

i can understand violnce because everyone loves to see violnce. Sex is going to far with it if you like that kind of stuff go rent/buy some porn, but for the rest of us dont put it on there.

[Charles]

[QUOTE=serenayasha]I do think it shouldn't because thats just wrong and pluse ewwwwwwww.

i can understand violnce because everyone loves to see violnce. Sex is going to far with it if you like that kind of stuff go rent/buy some porn, but for the rest of us dont put it on there.[/QUOTE]

Please, don't take this the wrong way. I honestly don't want to seem nasty but I [i]must[/i] ask this: How old are you? Nine?

I treat sex in video games just as I do in movies: if it serves a purpose in the plot, then I don't see how it's a problem. In [B]God of War[/B] for example, David Jaffe included the sex mini game to further define Kratos's animalistic character. It didn't disrupt the game or seem out of place.

Games are as much a part of culture as films in today's society. Games aimed towards adults should be able to include adult themes. So, the question here should be the opposite. Can anyone tell me why sex [i]shouldn't[/i] be allowed in games? An argument more descriptive than "eeeeeeeeeew" would be much appreciated.

[renayiiq]

This seems a bit immature. Like the dude above me said, if it's an adult video game, why shouldn't it have adult themes in it? I mean, besides, sex is just as much a part of life as violence, and why shouldn't it be part of something based on fantasies and things that come out of people's heads? I mean, video games, where do you think the idea comes from (key word: idea)? Out of someones arse? No, out of their head. And if they're sick and twisted or if they just think of sex n violence, there's nothing wrong with expressing it by putting it into making a video game for other like-minded people. And it's not even a big deal. You'll end up having sex one day and understanding that it's not gross...oh, and one thing, there's no such thing as cooties.

[GreatBird]

Uhh....This is always a debated topic so prepare for my imput. Here are some other peoples oppinions. "This is stupid kids shouldn't be allowed to view such trash on video games." True they shouldn't. This is one bad point for sex in games. But what are kids doing with mature rated games? People say sex shouldn't be in games because of the kids. Well most games with sex in them are rated mature so if the true intent of mature video games were to mature adults whats the problem? The problem is the parents don't look at the games. So basically I believe that sex in video games is alright but it all depends on whos playing it.

[Zen]

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Video games nowadays are slowly trying to simulate real life more and more. Sex, playing a bigger role in most people's lives than gratuitous violence, is an understandable step in video games, although it's not really new. Ever hear of Leisure Suit Larry? That game is older than me, and the whole point of the game is getting laid. I agree with Charles in the aspect that video games shouldn't be treated any differently than films. People didn't freak when a guy got eaten by a T-Rex in Jurassic Park (a film a saw at the age of five... still a fan), but a person having a cartoony roll in the sheets with their wife on the Sims is suddenly 'controvercial'.

People need to realize that Video Games have become an major form of entertainment for both children and adults, and video games aimed specifically at adults are to be expected. Sex in games should either a.) serve an artisitic purpose, showing either character development or placing a person in a setting. Or b.) be an advertised feature as an AO rated game. Cuz we all know about the poop-storm that arose from that Hot Coffee incident. Which wasn't exactly tasteful if ya ask me, but still, kids shouldn't have had their hands on GTA: San Andreas in the first place.

No, sex in games isn't wrong if it is done in good taste (forgive my terrible pun), but it deffinetly shouldn't be in the hands of youngin's. Thats my opinion.[/color][/size]

[Saya]

[quote name='Serenayasha']i can understand violnce because everyone loves to see violnce. Sex is going to far[/quote]Erm, might be shocking... don't hold me to it, but a lot more people are probably interested in seeing sex... for what it's worth, lol.

I'd say more on the topic but my opinion has been accurately expressed by those who came before me. I don't see what the problem with sex in video games either, and indeed I would like to see it handled with some style or class (not simply distasteful hardcore sex).

In the end though the only suggestion I'm comfortable with giving is ensure that age appropriate material falls into the hands of the youth while more mature audiences are allowed to appreciate the games they like.

Like Mugen I do not feel that whole incident with GTA was "tasteful" (the patch/mod), but I do think it was taken a little too far. After all, there are a number of games which contain sexual material - in the future better adherence to rating regulations should be conducted and those that aren't age appropriate simply shouldn't have such titles (let the adults unlock it all they damn well want, artistic sex or not in my opinion, as long as it stays in the right hands).

I would like to comment on the number of "sex" related posts by individuals on the forums. First Hentai, now this... it seems as though a number of (I can only guess "young") individuals are extremely concerned with such things: that's fine, young or old some people dislike those things being in the public eye.

To those individuals I should like to add that there are mature and or shady aspects to mostly everything - it isn't limited to anime, movies, and games. Part of becoming more mature is accepting that such things exist in the world - you might not like them, but they are out there and no, it is highly unlikely that they are degrading any industry (after all, there is a desire for them and not all of us adults who like such things are perverts? as for society as a whole, feel free to argue it in a censorship forum).

*Gets off the parental bandwagon for a few more years... erm, with luck* Just my two cents on the matter since it seems to be brought up quite frequently ;P

[PWNED]

[quote name='renayiiq']Like the dude above me said, if it's an adult video game, why shouldn't it have adult themes in it? .[/quote]

Um, One thing; Charles isn't a Dude, He's a former Site Administrator, Should just clear that up.


Anyway, Even if people did allow it there are just some things that cannot get past the censors, if coupled with multiple other things, because The Censors are paranoid about sexual things in games because they find that it is against family morals even though there are games with Violence, Drugs, Extreme Coarse Language and the like and a game will be considered for Mature Audiences only but a thing like a Sex mini game is more than enough to bump up the rating at least two things.


Hot Coffee, anyone?

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[Al-araaf]

If someone puts sex in video games fine. All that crap some poiltical lady put on for that thing in GTA: San Andreas was un-nessary. Adults should pay attetion to the RATEING on the game case. If you dont want your kid exposed to it the let them play a certain rateing level. It's that simple.

And for the freaks out there who are turned on by it ,it's none of my business but, IT ISNT REAL, ITS A VIDEO GAME, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THAT THEN FIND REAL PORN. I mean it's like watching a hentai. Why would anyone want to see a cartoon from of porn? But as I said it's none of my business i've just wondered about that.

[Semjaza]

People still don't realize that the problem about the GTA hot coffee issue was largely that it was in the game and the ESRB and hence every one else was never told about it. It wasn't taken into consideration on the rating whatsoever. That was the issue. It was being sold and advertised to a market that didn't take that hidden stuff into account... and by the very rules of the ESRB, that hidden stuff has to be shown regardless of whether or not it is normally accessed. We live in the world of modifcations and Game Sharks. It wouldn't have been rated M in that case at all and sales would have been affected if it wasn't removed. Politicians had been complaining about the game since the originals on PC and Playstation, honestly... but this was the first time anyone really paid any attention because it just wasn't taken into account ahead of time at all. It was the first time they had some really workable fodder as far as normal people would be considered.

I also don't think people have SEEN it. It's rather beyond what is offered in any other game before it on consoles. Every time I see it brought up there seems to be some idea that it's almost on a Sims level of sex or something. Are people overreacting anyway? Perhaps... but it's definitely not comparable to the sex minigame in God of War or anything else people try to compare it to.

I don't see sex as a problem in video games, but I honestly don't think it's really ever something necessary. In the games I've played that contain it I've never really felt it added much to the character or story that couldn't be added in some other way. In the European version of Indigo Prophecy (called Fahrenheit over there), for example, you can have sex with your girlfriend assuming you get back together. For some reason or another the game lets you move the mouse to perform the action. Why? I have no idea. Strangely, there's no nudity involved and it's all under the sheets.

Maybe when I play something and feel it somehow really added to the characters development I'll see a point in it. Right now, I think it's almost always handled like love stories are in RPGs: very badly.

[James P. Galvatron]

There already is sex in video games we just don't get em people are you forgetting about the dating and sex sims in Japan. They have games that include nudity and sex we just don't get em cause of the FCC and parents who would blow a gasket.

[serenayasha]

i am rethinking the whole problem.

Yes i agree that parents should check the ratings but you know that most of them won't because they don't care about there kids. if there is going to be more sex in video games they should at least only be should on the internet and given a different rating altogether. This mite help parents see how stupit some of them can be.:animesigh

[Semjaza]

[quote name='Inuyasha7271']There already is sex in video games we just don't get em people are you forgetting about the dating and sex sims in Japan. They have games that include nudity and sex we just don't get em cause of the FCC and parents who would blow a gasket.[/quote]

Almost none of those appear on consoles because Sony and Nintendo and Microsoft want nothing to do with them. They're either PC only and sold on websites or go through some other random sales method. I don't really think they're in the same category as what is being discussed here... This isn't about strictly adult games as much as it's about mainstream releases with sexual situations.

[Ezekiel]

[SIZE=1]You make no sense what-so-ever.

If you don't like sex in video games, don't buy video games that have a sexual content in them, same way as you won't see a movie with sex in if you don't like it.

All logical things that needed to be said were covered very early, so there isn't much point in me restating them. I can't see why you have a problem with something that isn't doing anything wrong in the first place.

(And in any case, I do believe that people would dislike mindless violence in video games much more than a little bit of a sex scene.)[/SIZE]

[MindGrinder]

I think that it's perfectly fine if it fits in with the game.

[Hittokiri Zero]

I don't see how [b]digital[/b] sex is any worse than [b]digitally[/b] blowing the brains out of [b]digital[/b] human beings.

This argument all goes back to the simple truth, video games are fake. It is just up to the people who play them to realize that.

If you're going to allow sex in movies, then why not allow sex in video games?

[Saya]

I agree with basically everything you said Generic NPC #3, let me just raise a few issues which concern the topic greatly.
[quote name='Generic NPC #3']People still don't realize that the problem about the GTA hot coffee issue was largely that it was in the game and the ESRB and hence every one else was never told about it. It wasn't taken into consideration on the rating whatsoever. That was the issue.[/quote]Oh no, that's specifically why I think that is a special situation, it wasn't right on their parts but the game does have an "M" title. That was of course before the popularity of the new "AO" title, so I'd say it was completely fine for when it came out - it is often common place not to release things you can do with "cheats" in a game. And for those that didn't know, cheats are of course designed by the game makers.

So was it in poor taste? Certainly, I'm not happy about it either, I just think it went a little too far (officially released or not, you can "unofficially" patch any number of games to do the exact same thing... so was it necessary to make GTA: San Andreas take up the "AO" on one version of their game? Not in my opinion).

[quote name='Generic NPC #3']and by the very rules of the ESRB, that hidden stuff has to be shown regardless of whether or not it is normally accessed. We live in the world of modifications and Game Sharks. It wouldn't have been rated M in that case at all and sales would have been affected if it wasn't removed[/quote]Tell ya, this is like the case with the chick from McDonalds who spilled hot coffee on her lap. I think if they released such information it probably wouldn't have made the game be released as "AO." And [b]if it would have been[/b] then they should have made the marketing decision before hand to remove such content to make sure sales aren't decreased.

Didn't know that (about the ESRB rules), there you go so again I feel it was in poor taste for them to design the game in such a way. But the result was pulling the game from most stores and re-releasing a game with an "AO" rating. Certainly Rockstar's games in the past have been just as sexual, of course not to the extent of full nudity during the previously only hinted at sex (thanks to Hotcoffee). This action is inappropriate at best... I think the most they should have done is fine Rockstar and made sure that they would never again repeat the mistakes of the past.

[quote name='Generic NPC #3']Politicians had been complaining about the game since the originals on PC and Playstation, honestly... but this was the first time anyone really paid any attention because it just wasn't taken into account ahead of time at all.[/quote]I agree, which is why I think this situation was blown so out of proportion... sure I would have been pissed at Rockstar, but mandating them to release an "AO" version plus the recall, it simply stinks of current political ideologies which are better left out of game decision making. Apparently we have Thought Police though ;)

Joy.

[quote name='Serenayasha'] Yes i agree that parents should check the ratings but you know that most of them won't because they don't care about there kids. if there is going to be more sex in video games they should at least only be should on the internet and given a different rating altogether.[/quote]Who said anything about not caring about their kids? Didn't think that was the issue up for discussion... regardless, poor parenting and not watching your child is hardly the problem of the game manufacturers. Only make such games available on the internet? I think not, beside what good would that do? By the same token you gave us parents who do not watch their children will probably not be watching what they download and play on the internet.

I fail to see the logic there... undeniably a poor solution.

And by the way, it doesn't follow that parents who allow their kids to play such games in turn must, by default, not care about them.[quote name='Imi'] If you don't liek sex in video games, don't buy video games that have a sexual content in them, same way as you won't see a movie with sex in if you don't like it.[/quote]Exactly my point with the addition of game ratings of course.

[RedMoon]

yes sex should be in video games whats so "ewwww"about that? i would prefer it to be if kissing/making out/tuching is on video games so can sex :animesmil

[Guest Kriss Kross]

Yes! It should it's just like pornographic films give it an AO rating and if you don't like it don't buy it. It's as simple as that. :stupid:

[Guest kuroinuyoukai]

I think it would be okay for sex to be in video games as long as it had a higher rating on the game. Of course then parents would have to actually pay attention to what their kids were buying. Besides sex is on TV all the time. What's the difference? As far as I can tell most teens know and/or have experienced sex by the time they are old enough to buy their own stuff.

[Guest Doomberg]

personaly I think sex is a normal thing and should not be shund.but I do beleive there is a apropreat age for this kind of understanding.maybe some of you at this still uthfull age will not grasp the beauty of this yet.but when you become older as of some of use you will realize the significants of the proses.and then you will see why it should be used in some situwations.though there are a few acations were thing such as rape and other things of that nature should not be premited unlease A:helps prutray a carecter or sene or even to explain a story.B:to be aloud in adult rated games[maybe even M.plus as one has said sex sells:animesmil

[nomad19]

sex is alright...when you're matured enough ;)
that's why we have the ESRB rating system, if they want to put sex in video games go right ahead, if the consumers dont like it they dont need to buy it...

it's main problem is when kids get a hold of the said video game containing sex. it's not all up to the developers and the rating system to keep mature content from minors, it's basically up to the parents if they buy them or not. the ESRB rating system can only do so much, but it's a 3 man job, the developers for making em, the ESRB for censoring and rating them and the the parents for doing their job, as parents.

[skatepixie]

[COLOR=Magenta]I think that it is okay if it is there, but it should be illegal to sell it to someone under 18 if it is an AO game, and under 17 if it is an M game, just like X and R ratings for movies. It should also be clearly marked on the outside why it is rated that way, so that people can make choices that are informed.

Personally, I don't want to view sexual things. I don't care if its books, movies, games or whatever. For religous reasons, I don't want to be exposed to it. So, I have the right to make my own choices and I think that the rating system is good because it helps people make choices.

I don't think that the uproar over GTA:SA was wrong, though, because it was not labeled that the gamed contained (or could contain) sexual content. [/COLOR]

[Venge]

[font=Verdana][size=1]Sex in video games should be allowed. Why? Because we allow decapitation, drug usage, drive byes, murder, death my dismemberment/suffocation/drowning/ect, cursing, blood/gore, illegal use of weapons, reference to terrorism and gang violence...and politions are getting their pantys in a bunch over a simple (rant time) CODE THAT WAS IN GTA: SA AND COULD ONLY BE FOUND BY HACKERS!? Good Lord! Someone get a polition with COMMEN SENSE PEOPLE![/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=1]Sex is part of our every day life, lots of them not happening until later after high school. Most game designers are trying to create games as close to life as possible, hence the Sims series. But they don't want any sexual content in them. But they allow sexual references, jokes, humor, and nudity. [/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=1]As for the rating system...you pretty much have to be 17+ to get a M rated game, right? Why not just say 18 and add in the more adult stuff? It's rather simple really. Most (KEYWORD: MOST) adults are mature enough to understand video games are set in a fictional world with fictional characters, where everything happening is fictional, save for the history based games (WW2, Vietnam).[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=1]Now for the parents who allow their 8 year old child to play a M rated game...stop, take a gun, load it up, put it to your head, and pull the trigger...not really! Just joking. But seriously, if you are so stupid to allow your 7-9 year old CHILD, your BABY, to play games that are meant for a mature audience (Ex: the kind of people that don't giggle at the thought of a girl kissing a boy), you should die. You're pretty much ruining the lives of your children, so just ruin yours and save your child the pain and torment of growing up to be a pedaphile who has nothing to do but look up porn and act as violently as possible and wind up going to the Chair in prison for mass murdering due to a video game they played as a child. Thank you for your time.[/size][/font]
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[Riku]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=2][COLOR=Navy]After reading some new posts displayed on this thread, I totally agree with each and everyone of you.

Personally, I don't want to have or have anything to do with video games that have sex in it because it's just not my type of thing that I would want to see. But, with all the things going around this topic, I would have to say that yes, sex should be allowed on video games. Not thst I like it but, hey, some mature teens like that kind of stuff, so, why should we take it away from them?? Just a thought.

Basically, what most politicians against sex in video games say is that it is the gaming compines fault that these types of games are being made and sold to kids who are way too young to see this type of thing. I was watching the news and they had this story and some politician came up there and said, "It is both the video gaming company and present consumers who are supporting them that are roting our young childrens' minds with sex." Okay, as soon as I heard that, I was just about to knock my T.V. out because I was so mad at what she had said.

First of all, it is not the gaming compaines fault that their games are getting into the hands of many young children; it's the parents fault because they aren't paying attention to the ratings of the games that their children are asking for. I hate it when parents blame video games that it had vulgar things on it, but they were the ones that bought it for their kid. Hello... there's something called an ESRB Rating in the front AND back. Geez, how can you not see it??

Secondly, why does she have to bring video gamers into this? What did we ever do to deserve a bad renark? It's not like we say, "Hey kids, look! A sex-fillied video game!! You should buy it!" Heck, all we do is buy games that we like from that company because duh... it's what consumers do: buy from a company so that they can make money. I mean, come on! Why don't they blame the blasted kid's parents instead of the people who are just buying entertainment?

Thirdly.... look, people, sex isn't just vulgaraity, you know, it's something special in which someone gives up their life to another person. It's supposed to be beautiful, not banned just because some younger kids see it. Besides, they're going to have to learn about it one day, so,why ban it? Also, maybe the ratings should go just a little bit higher in which how much sexual content is in it so that store owners know that they can't just sell this game to every person who buys it. but someone who is old and mature enough to play it[/COLOR][/SIZE].[/FONT]

[TheShinje]

[QUOTE=The Monster]Um, One thing; Charles isn't a Dude, He's a former Site Administrator, Should just clear that up.
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[size=1][color=crimson] Because, as everyone should know by now, becoming a site admin instantly makes you a chick. :p

For the situation at hand, I really don't see a problem with sex in videogames, It doesn't interest me, and the Hot Coffee scenes in GTA:SA aren't exactly getting me leaping for my gameshark, but I don't care if the stuff is in there or not.

The only problem I can forsee is copycatting. When sucessive anti heroes became popular in video games, creators of " fluffy" games like Spyro the Dragon, or Jak and Daxter, started putting an anti hero, badass spin on their usually light-minded characters. I have no interest, however, in seeing a randy Spyro anytime in the future. :wigout:

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