Nice Guys

[Dragon Warrior]

Though I may act insane or "stupid" on the internet, in real life, I'm always positive around others. I choose not to show my bad moods so I'm not to get anyone else down. I enjoy hearing my friends vent, so I can help them. I'm friends with basically everyone at school, so I have no choice but to be one of those people there for others. You get satisfaction out of it.

Today my friend Jaimie was very upset. She wouldn't even talk to me. So I just made this graphic for her and sent it through an IM for when she returned from being away. She was happy to get it and I'm glad it made her in a better mood.

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[SunfallE]

[COLOR=DarkOliveGreen]Most of the nice guys I have known have been gay, so there hasn't been an issue of them being underappreciated by me. We've both been there for eachother when things didn't work out. But I agree with the rant as I've seen some of the nice straight guys get treated like that and I often find myself wanting to strangle the stupid girl who does that to them. I had a roomate a while back who was like that, using other guys and never realizing that they were exactly the type of guy they whined about wanting to meet.
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[Panache]

Well a good analogy in my opinion would be the story from fruits basket about the person who gave away everything they have to make people just a little happy and in the end died a happy person. You see if you are genuinely nice you are more then happy to give part of yourself up for no reward. I mean would a real nice peson do good deeds to get girls or poularity?

[Annie]

[quote name='Avenged666fold']Um am I a bad boy or a nice boy. Ok I am always nice to girls,my friends,kids and the elderly. Then I like to do bad stuff like rebel against authority and make my parents worry. So am I bad or good?[/quote]
[size=1]Dude, you already had a thread questioning if you were good or bad; look where that ended up.[/size]

[quote name='Avenged666fold']Well a good analogy in my opinion would be the story from fruits basket about the person who gave away everything they have to make people just a little happy and in the end died a happy person. You see if you are genuinely nice you are more then happy to give part of yourself up for no reward. I mean would a real nice peson do good deeds to get girls or poularity?[/quote]

[size=1]A genuine "nice person" would more than likely look to making people around them happy, so they could be happy. But, some people aren't like that. Some people get fed up with being the nice person who does everything and gets nothing in return. To everyone in my memory, including myself, it gets frustrating and you begin to question how you are valued and seen as a person. You get taken advantage of, is what it comes down to. And I don't know about you, but my generousity being taken advantage of doesn't feel good---no matter how happy you can be.[/size]

[Panache]

Well then maybe being a super nice person is'nt for you.

[Annie]

[quote name='Avenged666fold']Well then maybe being a super nice person is'nt for you.[/quote]


[size=1]Maybe being logical isn't for you.

I am a nice person, but after 20 years of being dumped on for my care and support, I've decided that being the nice person isn't all what it's cracked up to be. I'm nice to those who are nice to me; that's all that matters to me in this situation.

--and this is where I'm going to stop before I lose my rationality (if I have any left after being on the [b]'Boards[/b] for over 2 years, lol)[/size]

[Panache]

So it seems you have followed my advice before I gave it to you. Good for you.

[haru sakurai]

i'm a nice guy, people say. and i've had a girlfriend (a [i]hot[/i] girfriend, no less!) for 4 years.

there's a difference between being nice and being spineless. if you let a girl treat you badly, they're going to walk all over you and think you're a weakling, and of course they aren't going to see you as dating material. you need to be upfront about your feelings. if you think her boyfriend's a jerk, say so. if she's being emasculating, point it out to her. you don't deserve to have to sit through that kind of crap, you're a human being, and even if you just want to be a good friend, those relationships are based on mutual respect. if you don't demand that respect, do you think it's going to spontaneously appear? it's not being 'nice' to insult some one's gender to their face. and it's not 'nice' to just tolerate it. stand up for yourself! i'm not saying call her a ***** and punch her in the face, but at least tell her that as a man you take offense.

blame women not liking nice men all you like, but i'll tell you this: people call me a nice guy all the time, and i'm only reasonably attractive, but i've still had my share of women interested in me. which leads me to believe the center of the problem is you. you're willing to be a doormat, through your own actions and the women you choose to stay around, and as long as you do that, of course women are going to treat you like one.

self-confidence doesn't grow on trees, and i'm by no means some king of charisma. but a little spine goes a long way. be honest with women. don't hold back or just tell them only what you think they want to hear. you'll never get anywhere if you just let them stomp on you, you won't have any chance to show your personality.