hostel

[rainbowphoenix]

I haven't seen this movie yet but I saw the trailer and some video clips and it totally made me sick, GOD this movie looks so disturbing, I just wanted to know what other people think about this film, I already seen "saw" and people say that hostel has much more gore than saw, so can anyone tell me waht happened in this movie?

[Retribution]

[size=1]This movie looks ... downright sick. I think it's a perversion of Tarantino's great directing, that he's using it for a brutal gorefest. I decided I wasn't going to see this when I saw [spoiler]the toe with the wrench, and then the drill. That sort of mutilation isn't even entertainment or art -- that's sick.[/spoiler] At least 'Saw' had the contemplative thriller (not quite the right word) element to it.

And may I ask, what exactly is a "Hostel"?[/size]

[Goodbye, Face]

[quote name='Retribution][size=1']And may I ask, what exactly is a "Hostel"?[/size][/quote]

[font=trebuchet ms][size=1][i]Hostels (or youth hostels) provide short term accommodation to travelers. In a hostel you rent a bed (usually a bunk-bed) in a dormitory and share common bathroom, kitchen, and lounge rooms. Private rooms are often available. The main benefit of a hostel is that you get to meet other travelers from all over the world. They are usually less formal and less expensive than hotels. They are most frequently used by young travelers. In the past many hostels had imposed age limits, but today it's more common for hostels to accept guests of all ages. In certain parts of the world, hostels are commonly called "backpackers", particularly Australia and New Zealand.

Though hostels provide great opportunity for multi-cultural enlightenment, there are some potential drawbacks to using them. Theft can be a problem since guests share a common living space. For this reason most hostels offer some sort of system for safely storing your valuables, and many offer private lockers. Although reasonably rare, it is possible to end up in a bed or room that has been infested with some kind of parasite such as bedbugs. A less worrisome but more commonly experienced drawback to staying in hostels is difficulty sleeping because of noise, whether it's from someone snoring or someone returning to the room after a late night out on the town. For this reason, having earplugs with you may be a good idea when staying in hostels.

Some hostels also allow long-term residency to local transients/homeless/ailing persons with no other resources. Traditionally hostels offered housing at no cost in exchange for doing hosuework; this is far less common in modern day, but many hostels employ their long-term residents as desk clerks (etc...) in exchange for free housing.

Many hostels belong to Hostelling International (HI), a nonprofit organization composed of more than 90 associations representing about 4000 hostels in over 80 countries. Hostelling International was formerly called the International Youth Hostel Federation (IYHF).[/i][/size]

And yeah, I'm seeing this movie today. I was hooked from the moment I saw the previews for it when watching Aeon Flux. I was told by my friend, who saw it last night, that it was great. I have a feeling I'll like it, but I feel a little intimidated by it, lol.

I forsee a few [u][URL=http://purevolume.com/killwhitneydead]Killwhitneydead[/URL][/u] quotes coming from this movie, lol.

Anyways, I'll let you all know what I think about it after I see it tonight.[/font]

[Onix]

[COLOR=SlateGray][SIZE=1]A "hostel" is a kind of public housing...thing similar to a hotel, but often much cheaper and, by extension, low quality. Travelers staying in a hostel may have to share a room with several other people they don't even know, and beds might not even be provided. They are often found in countries like Eastern Europe and the Middle East, or so is my understanding.
[B]EDIT:[/B] Ah, RiflesAtRecess beat me to the punch. With much better info. Rats.

Also, my understanding is that Tarantino isn't actually directing this, he's the executive producer. The director/writer is [B]Eli Roth[/B]. Just thought I'd clear that up.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Samsara]

I think this will be a great movie. However, I am curious to see how much(if any) gore was cut from the original version. I read an early review for this film and apparently there are quite a few scenes that will please all of the gore hounds out there. It's awesome to actually see a R rated horror movie being released. And yes, Unborn Lord Xion is correct, Eli Roth directed this, not Tarantino.

[Semjaza]

Even if Tarrantino did direct this, how would it be a "perversion" of his great directing? Give me a break lol. You're talking about a director who made a film where dozens of people get body parts chopped off. In addition, I have to wonder how much you may know about this film to compare it to "Saw", if you don't even know what a hostel is (which is basically described in EVERY preview/review of this title in varying ways)... Saw essentially was a poor man's version of Seven. Get some good reasons :p

Horror movies can be just as well composed as anything else and Tarrantino is smart enough to know that. In any case, as mentioned, Eli Roth is directing this and Tarrantino is just a producer of some sort... like with those kung-fu movies years back.

Eli Roth also did Cabin Fever, which was made with only a 1.5 million dollar budget and subsequently became the most profitable horror title of that year. When I saw it, most of the theater seemed turned off by the fact that it had a sense of humor, but I personally feel that's integral to an entertaining horror film... If that movie didn't have a sense of comedy to it, I think portions of it would have been overly brutal. As it stands, it wiped the floor with horror movies that year that cost 10 to 20 times as much to make.

As such, I'm really looking forward to this. As far as I'm concerned, Eli Roth is in a very strong position to become the next great horror director up there with Romero or Raimi.

[sakurasuka]

[size=1]This looks disgusting to me. It's just manipulation and mutilation of the human body in disturbing ways. Simply disgusting.[/size]

[Retribution]

[QUOTE=Generic NPC #3]Even if Tarrantino did direct this, how would it be a "perversion" of his great directing? Give me a break lol. You're talking about a director who made a film where dozens of people get body parts chopped off. In addition, I have to wonder how much you may know about this film to compare it to "Saw", if you don't even know what a hostel is (which is basically described in EVERY preview/review of this title in varying ways)... Saw essentially was a poor man's version of Seven. Get some good reasons :p

Horror movies can be just as well composed as anything else and Tarrantino is smart enough to know that. In any case, as mentioned, Eli Roth is directing this and Tarrantino is just a producer of some sort... like with those kung-fu movies years back.

Eli Roth also did Cabin Fever, which was made with only a 1.5 million dollar budget and subsequently became the most profitable horror title of that year. When I saw it, most of the theater seemed turned off by the fact that it had a sense of humor, but I personally feel that's integral to an entertaining horror film... If that movie didn't have a sense of comedy to it, I think portions of it would have been overly brutal. As it stands, it wiped the floor with horror movies that year that cost 10 to 20 times as much to make.

As such, I'm really looking forward to this. As far as I'm concerned, Eli Roth is in a very strong position to become the next great horror director up there with Romero or Raimi.[/QUOTE]
[size=1]The plot was weak. The violence was disturbing. My friend left [spoiler]during the slashing of the achilles tendon, and his heels came off.[/spoiler] He stumbled out of the theater mumbling "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god." He stared at a wall for about ten minutes, and looked absolutely shell-shocked.

The fact that I don't know what a hostel is doesn't mean I can't be critical towards it. The word "hostle" was rather insignificant to the movie as a whole. [spoiler]It was a bunch of mental people torturing victims in a room.[/spoiler]

The movie is trash -- it's a pointless torture-fest.[/size]

[Goodbye, Face]

[font=trebuchet ms]Yeah, what he said.

Basically, there's these three potheads who leave America to go on a trip through Eurasia looking for hot foreign women. Basically, half of the movie is a porno. Then, [spoiler]Pakistan's friends start to disappear, and he gets wrapped up in this mess of what is essentially a creepy pay-for-pleasure killing game which is supposed to be a metaphor for prostitution or something.[/spoiler] Basically, it's a cool idea, it's certainly different, but it's unenjoyable. My face is stuck in a cringing expression from doing so for two hours straight.

Seriously, the movie in itself was ok, but it's just... unsettling. It's not a happy experience, but an interesting one. Blatantly, don't see it unless you're turned on by severed limbs, etc.[/font]

[Semjaza]

[QUOTE=Retribution][size=1]The fact that I don't know what a hostel is doesn't mean I can't be critical towards it. The word "hostle" was rather insignificant to the movie as a whole. [spoiler]It was a bunch of mental people torturing victims in a room.[/spoiler]

The movie is trash -- it's a pointless torture-fest.[/size][/QUOTE]

You hadn't seen it at the point of my post, from all you had said. You had pretty much decided what to think about it at that point. My response was largely to your preconceptions... whether or not you dislike it now is fine by me lol. I suppose in the end you wound up getting what you expected, but I'm not sure why anyone would expect much more than a slasher/torture fest going into it... which is pretty much the opposite of most majorly released horror films nowadays I suppose and can understandably throw people off in advertising and whatnot.

Edit: As a sidenote, I wonder what Tarrantino's reason for producing it was.

[Gen. Andronicus]

Anyone whose worried about gore, this movie is far from being excessive. Yes, the gore scenes it contains are somewhat disturbing, but not anymore than Saw or Saw II. Also, this movie pales in comparision to last years High Tension, both in gore and also as far as movies go. In fact, though toture is horrible, this movie didn't really seem like a horror film at all but rather a cheesy running from the mob type action flick, [spoiler]equipped with black clad men driving black cars, chase scenes, a revenge sequence at the end[/spoiler]. It didn't help that the movie started out as a Eurotrip wannabe. Also, as was stated before there are LOTS of gratuitous boobies. Now I have a feeling that Roth was trying to use the nudity to showcase the characters care-free attitudes, consequently showing their naivety of the horrors that awaited them. Then Roth brings down the gore hammer, giving the audience an greater uneasy feeling. However, as I stated before, it fails to feels like a horror film, neither in terror nor in gore, thus this failure makes the movies boob-tastic scenes feel more like an excercise in R-rated porn. I recomend Cabin Fever over Hostel any day.

I'm not much of a Tarantino fan, but I realize that his name carries a lot of wieght in hollywood. After viewing this movie, I would also like to know, why did he endorse (which seems to be all he actually does for this film) such a crappy movie?

[rainbowphoenix]

Well basicly, this movie looks more gory than saw, I read about 25 reviews and most of them said that this movie was way more gory than saw. Saw wasn't actually as scary as I thought, when I saw it I was kind of dissapointed, it did scare me at some points though, and what about high tention is like hostel or is hostel worse.

[Gen. Andronicus]

Just because Saw wasn't scary to you doesn't mean it wasn't gory? And I was simply offering my opinion, an opinion that has actually experienced the both films. Hostel really wasn't THAT gory. I'm sorry if that dissagrees with 25 movie critics, but in comparision to many other gory films, it doesn't. The only comparision I was drawing between High Tension and Hostel was that both tried to have excessive amounts of gore. The difference between the two films is that High Tension succeeded as a horror film that uses gore, Hostel did not.

[Burori]

[QUOTE=Generic NPC #3]You hadn't seen it at the point of my post, from all you had said. You had pretty much decided what to think about it at that point. My response was largely to your preconceptions... whether or not you dislike it now is fine by me lol. I suppose in the end you wound up getting what you expected, but I'm not sure why anyone would expect much more than a slasher/torture fest going into it... which is pretty much the opposite of most majorly released horror films nowadays I suppose and can understandably throw people off in advertising and whatnot.

Edit: [B]As a sidenote, I wonder what Tarrantino's reason for producing it was[/B].[/QUOTE]

For the breasts and the butts?

[Bishi Big]

I want to see this movie really bad, I heard it was good, some people said it wasn't scary, but I'm not expecting it to be haha, I just wanna know what's going on and what the storyline is like since I'm clueless.

[Brasil]

[quote name='Swedish Chef']For the breasts and the butts?[/quote]
Is there a lot of T&A in Tarantino's previous work? Didn't think so.

[Burori]

[quote name='Brasil']Is there a lot of T&A in Tarantino's previous work? Didn't think so.[/quote]

Sufice to say thats what is in this movie. Not that I was complaining at all I for one am going to amsterdam just staying far away from brotislava. (sp?)

[Brasil]

[quote name='Swedish Chef']Sufice to say thats what is in this movie. Not that I was complaining at all I for one am going to amsterdam just staying far away from brotislava. (sp?)[/quote]
You kind of missed my point. There's never really been an obsession with T&A in Tarantino's previous films, apart from a bit in Jackie Brown. His movies just don't focus on that element of the degenerate culture in which his films are set. That's why it doesn't seem likely that boobies and giggly bums are what attracted Tarantino to "present" this film.

[rainbowphoenix]

[quote name='Gen. Andronicus']Just because Saw wasn't scary to you doesn't mean it wasn't gory? And I was simply offering my opinion, an opinion that has actually experienced the both films. Hostel really wasn't THAT gory. I'm sorry if that dissagrees with 25 movie critics, but in comparision to many other gory films, it doesn't. The only comparision I was drawing between High Tension and Hostel was that both tried to have excessive amounts of gore. The difference between the two films is that High Tension succeeded as a horror film that uses gore, Hostel did not.[/quote]

sorry, I just heard of the movie hostel and wanted to see how good or bad it was, it was just my opinion on saw, I mean saw was gory but I was just giving my opinion, again sorry.

[Burori]

[quote name='Brasil']You kind of missed my point. There's never really been an obsession with T&A in Tarantino's previous films, apart from a bit in Jackie Brown. His movies just don't focus on that element of the degenerate culture in which his films are set. That's why it doesn't seem likely that boobies and giggly bums are what attracted Tarantino to "present" this film.[/quote]

Then I don't know what possessed him OO.

[Brasil]

[quote name='Swedish Chef']Then I don't know what possessed him OO.[/quote]
Perhaps his penchant for the grotesque parts of life? And how characters react to the grotesque parts of life?

[Burori]

[quote name='Brasil']Perhaps his penchant for the grotesque parts of life? And how characters react to the grotesque parts of life?[/quote]

Perhaps... or he gets off on it. Oo

But in all seriousness. I saw the movie but can't help but notice a predictament at the end. [Spoiler] the part when the asian girl (whats her name I forgot lol) commits suicide cause of her burnt face, thus giving the male a chance to board the train while the police are just watching her.

What I mean is. Had he not saved her when she was being tortured he would not have had that moment to get on the train unnoticed and survive the whole ordeal. Makes you think that he saved her so that she could kill herself to save him. [/spoiler](dunno if I am making sense at this point....)

[Drix D'Zanth]

[QUOTE=Swedish Chef]Perhaps... or he gets off on it. Oo

But in all seriousness. I saw the movie but can't help but notice a predictament at the end. [Spoiler] the part when the asian girl (whats her name I forgot lol) commits suicide cause of her burnt face, thus giving the male a chance to board the train while the police are just watching her.

What I mean is. Had he not saved her when she was being tortured he would not have had that moment to get on the train unnoticed and survive the whole ordeal. Makes you think that he saved her so that she could kill herself to save him. [/spoiler](dunno if I am making sense at this point....)[/QUOTE]

I don?t mean to be sardonic, but are you kidding me? I don?t think the gears were churning really hard in that guy?s brain. [spoiler]I mean considering he wasn?t really expecting their presence at the train indicated by the fact that he was taken by surprise, hiding behind the nearest box. Not only that, he almost blew his cover by trying to call her over. [/spoiler]

This movie was really a good idea gone wrong. I think Eli Roth had good intentions but it just seemed sloppy to me. I think given a more talented director, combined with an appealing theme, this movie would have been up there with my numero-uno ?horror? film: se7en.
[spoiler]
The message I think this movie was trying to project was highlighted in the first half of the movie through the Amsterdam/early Bratislava sequences. In those scenes you had the young men pursuing their lusts and the rush of passionate/easy sex. Early in the movie one of the characters said, ?Paying a woman to do whatever you want to do to her seems wrong to me.? This clumsily-delivered line derives the idea of a ?rush? often sought by our ever-licentiousness culture. The idea is that when we shed our social inhibitions concerning the consequences and seriousness of sex (often it is the cultivation of a long relationship, an expression of love) the human animal takes over. Hostel tries to take that one step further down the rabbit hole by exploring the human fascination and glorification of violence and death. The rush of murder is just a more vicious expression of a quality that is (unfortunately) deeply embedded into our history, and perhaps our biology. Violence without consequences at a price, and the ability to experience this makes the factory of torture in Bratislava the ultimate ?Amsterdam brothel?. I thought another interesting focus was the use of masks by the torturers. It gave the torturer safety and anonymity, I thought, and could have been a well-utilized metaphor.[/spoiler]

The acting was mediocre, the torture scenes were sometimes unbelievable, and the message was lost in the hype behind a movie featuring unmitigated torture. Hype the move really didn?t live up to. The plot was unconvincing, the kids so stupid that you almost [b]wanted[/b] them to die, and it really didn?t make an effort to frighten you at all? just gross you out with gore. [spoiler] However, nothing beats the gang of devil children. I?ve never laughed so hard at a horror movie in my entire life, those kids were hilarious. It was way to ridiculous to be taken seriously and watching them fight? it?s like watching a squad of dwarves beat up a watermelon. Terrible idea for the movie, wonderful dry/black humor.[/spoiler]

[Crimson River]

Here is an interesting viewer review: After the mediocrity that was Cabin Fever, I had little expectation for Eli Roth's new horror flick, Hostel. However, after watching the North American preview at the Toronto Film Festival, I was pleasantly surprised. I went to the midnight showing and when the movie was finished I've got to say, I was a little anxious going home.

The movie dispenses with much of the clever, self-congratulatory repartee made so popular in horror films since Scream and its imitators. It opts instead for the old fashioned horror staples of nudity, terror, blood and tension. It was original, well filmed and well acted by a stable of Eastern European unknowns. Since we didn't see the final cut, I am anxious about how it will show in theaters. I hope that Hostel keeps its edge. If so, it will emerge as a modern-day horror classic.

And interesting trivia facts:

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[*]The trailers bill the movie as "inspired by true events." Aintitcoolnews.com webmaster Harry Knowles showed director Eli Roth a website he found that advertised itself as a "murder vacation", offering users the chance to torture and kill someone for the price of $10,000. Roth used the site as inspiration for his script, and told the idea to Quentin Tarantino, who said it was one of the "sickest ideas he'd ever heard". Roth said later on an Icelandic talk show that he had no idea if the website was real or not, but the fact that someone had conceived of such a place and bothered to create a site for it disturbed him so much he had to make the film.
[*]"The American Businessman" (Rick Hoffman) almost gave himself a concussion and bruised his head with the butt of his gun while filming the scene where he decides how to murder his victim.
[*][url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0744834/"][color=#0000ff]Eli Roth[/color][/url] hired real street kids to play the Bubble Gum Gang.
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[*][url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0744834/"][color=#0000ff]Eli Roth[/color][/url] asked the President of Iceland for an official pardon for making Icelanders look like drunken sex maniacs with the character of Oli. The president laughed and gave Roth the pardon, saying it represented a side of Icelanders not shown in movies. Roth also issued a formal apology to the Icelandic Minister of Culture, for all the damage "Hostel" may cause to Iceland's reputation.
[*]Over 150 gallons of blood were used in the making of the movie, nearly three times the amount used on [url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0744834/"][color=#0000ff]Eli Roth[/color][/url]'s first film [url="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303816/"][color=#0000ff]Cabin Fever[/color][/url] (2002).
[*][url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0744834/"][color=#0000ff]Eli Roth[/color][/url] wrote the role of Oli for [url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1898448/"][color=#0000ff]Eythor Gudjonsson[/color][/url] after he met him doing press for [url="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303816/"][color=#0000ff]Cabin Fever[/color][/url] (2002) in Iceland. Roth was so taken with Eythor's charisma and charm, he promised he'd make put him in a movie one day. Eythor was surprised when he saw that Roth had followed through with his promise, and happily accepted the role.
[*][url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0744834/"][color=#0000ff]Eli Roth[/color][/url] wanted to have the world premiere of the finished film at the 2005 Iceland Film Festival. During the festival, Roth and [url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000233/"][color=#0000ff]Quentin Tarantino[/color][/url] were made honorary Vikings at Viking Village, in a ceremony arranged by Eythor Gudjonsson. Roth's Icelandic name is Eli Sheldonsson, and Tarantino's Icelandic name is Quentin Conniesson.
[*]The movie was written, produced, directed and released theatrically all in a twelve month period, which is three times faster than the average Hollywood film.
[*]The interior of the slaughterhouse was filmed at a functioning mental hospital in Prague built in 1910, in a wing that had been closed for over 50 years. Building 10, where many of the scenes were filmed, was where the craziest patients were taken. The basement was so creepy that Eli Roth had a string quartet playing Vivaldi to make it feel cozier while shooting.
[*]The Czech and Slovak pop songs in the movie were huge hits in Czechoslovakia between the years 1982 and 1989.
[*]The movie has nine different languages and no subtitles. It holds the record for the most different languages in an American film without subtitles.
[*][url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0744834/"][color=#0000ff]Eli Roth[/color][/url] put nearly every single crew member in the film, including production accountant Mark Bakunas, who appears on a poster in the background of three different scenes for his fictional rock band, 'Bakunas and the Essential Elements.' The other members of the band on the poster are producers Mike Fleiss and Chris Briggs, Co-Producer Dan Frisch, Production and Costume Designer Franco Carbone, and Roth.
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Warning: Spoiler alert below


SPOILER: [spoiler]The original ending in the script ended with the murder of one of the character's 5-year-old daughter. It was changed for the film because many of the film's producers told Eli Roth that it was too violent.

SPOILER: The scene which used the cutting of one character's Achilles' heel used the same prop that was used for an alternate version of the Achilles' heel cutting scene in the hospital in [url="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266697/"][color=#0000ff]Kill Bill: Vol. 1[/color][/url] (2003).[/spoiler]



[color=navy]I amended your post with actual spoiler tags. I left in your spoiler warnings, though.
--Manic W.[/color]