Guest AnimeRules15421 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 In my oppinion who's more of they idiot Bush or the people who re-elected him. Wow you Amarican's should think twice next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Keep in mind that he was re-elected by a small margin. It truly was a nation divided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AnimeRules15421 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Finaly someone understand's Listen Amarica YOU ARE RESPONSEABLE FOR YOU'RE OWN ACTION'S! So much for you're democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Ew, poor grammar. Not all of America sees things that way. Like I've allready said, half the country DIDN'T vote for him. Don't generalize a whole country based on the incompitence of its leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syrius Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 [quote name='AnimeRules15421']In my oppinion who's more of they idiot Bush or the people who re-elected him. Wow you Amarican's should think twice next time.[/quote] It was either him or Kerry, I for one thought Bush was the lesser of the 2 evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I think he's a good president, even though I'm not too sure what his views are but I think he's doing the best he can. I'm gay and everyone is asking me why i like him because he doesn't approve of gay marriage. I always respond with: "Show me one who has" Really, its just stupid to see the gay population hate him just because of that. Really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Blade Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 [SIZE=1][COLOR=SlateGray] Apparently, No I don't think bush is a good president. I don't really think highly of Kerry either. One's an Idiot and the other one is married to the Tomatoe Princess. But hey that's just my opinion. I would write more, but I can't the librarian is giving me the go-to-hell-look. Dang, I swear if looks could kill,I would be dead. [/COLOR][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Canada supports gay marriage... Well I don't know what's going to happen any more though, because now we have a new Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, who is pretty much the Canadian version of a Republican. Barf. Who will also, I imagine, kiss butt to the Bush Administration. He's kind of "Yay America" (I'm not tryingn to be America bashing, I just mean in regards to the Bush Admin)... I don't trust him. Also, thanks for the "hear hear" Syrius! :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AnimeRules15421 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I dont think Canda's new Prime Minster is going to do enygood. How is makeing better tie's with Amarica and strengthing there millatary going to help. There not event fighting in Iraq. Also Amarica need's to take credit for there own actions. Hence Amarica blameing Canda for suposevly dumping trash on U.S. ground's. When they didnt. Either way The Bush administration is curuped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syrius Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 [QUOTE=Mage17]I think he's a good president, even though I'm not too sure what his views are but I think he's doing the best he can. I'm gay and everyone is asking me why i like him because he doesn't approve of gay marriage. I always respond with: "Show me one who has" Really, its just stupid to see the gay population hate him just because of that. Really annoying.[/QUOTE] I support gay marriage and I'm straight, of course i'm a very liberal democrat. [QUOTE=KatanaViolet]Canada supports gay marriage... Well I don't know what's going to happen any more though, because now we have a new Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, who is pretty much the Canadian version of a Republican. Barf. Who will also, I imagine, kiss butt to the Bush Administration. He's kind of "Yay America" (I'm not tryingn to be America bashing, I just mean in regards to the Bush Admin)... I don't trust him. Also, thanks for the "hear hear" Syrius! :3[/QUOTE] Your quite welcome. [color=DarkGreen][b][size=1]Syrius, I think I've warned you before about double posting. I certainly remember deleting the "Hear hear" post in question because it was posted directly after another of your own posts. If you want to add something, but no one's posted after you, EDIT your post instead of posting again straight after yourself. I've merged your two consecutive posts, don't make me do it again. [/size][/b][/color] [right][color=DarkGreen][size=1]-Raiyuu[/size][/color] [/right] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chobits743 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I really dont like him.To be honest, I would like another president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Sound_Nin] Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Bush is a worthless president. If you can't recognize that, then you are obviously not seeing what he's doing. He's anti-poor, anti-gay, anti-minority, he is (excuse my language, and excuse me for resorting to cursing) a suck-*** president. I live in a small, small-minded rebublican conservative christian town, and everyone (right down to the 1st and 2nd graders) has a republican influenced opinion. Yes, I agree that Saddam Hussein was evil, but we are supposed to be fighting the Al Queida. And the WMD thing was a complete bust, and so is everything he does. If you support him, you must be a rich, christian, heterosexual white male, or just an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Okamii Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 [quote name='GoldScorpion78']Bush is a worthless president. If you can't recognize that, then you are obviously not seeing what he's doing. He's anti-poor, anti-gay, anti-minority, he is (excuse my language, and excuse me for resorting to cursing) a suck-*** president. I live in a small, small-minded rebublican conservative christian town, and everyone (right down to the 1st and 2nd graders) has a republican influenced opinion. Yes, I agree that Saddam Hussein was evil, but we are supposed to be fighting the Al Queida. And the WMD thing was a complete bust, and so is everything he does. If you support him, you must be a rich, christian, heterosexual white male, or just an idiot.[/quote] I agree with you there. I too live in a small town where even the KINDERGARTENERS have republican influenced opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Flasher Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=Sienna]Does anyone else realise what the consequences of the Iraq war ARE? Not just in lives, but in money? Most non-partisan (OK, maybe a bit partisan...) economists project America's debt to reach 1.3 [b]TRILLION[/b] dollars. I don't know how many of you can comprehend that number, but that is a LOT of money. Not only that, but this isn't like WWII. The US had a pretty big debt after that, but they were also the new go-to-guy economically, they were the giant, you wanted somthing built you got it built in the US. That's how they recovered from their gigantic debt. It isn't like that anymore. The landscape has changed. Now, China is the economic giant - everyone builds things in China, the US can't just burn through 1.3 TRILLION dollars of debt anymore... Basically what I'm saying is... the US is ******. The days of being a superpower will, soon enough (if they don't already), exist soley in the self-made image (aka propogandga) that the US has constructed for itself. Have fun.[/COLOR][/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Well put Ziggy. I don't really have much else to say on the matter, but I'm gonna pull something that I typed up sometime back in my MSN Space. [QUOTE]?Saddam Hussein is a homicidal dictator who is addicted to weapons of mass destruction.? -George W.Bush (But who REALLY has the most weapons?) "A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it.? -George W. Bush. "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.?-George W. Bush "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."- George Bush Sr. "Our enemies send other people's children on missions of suicide and murder. They embrace tyranny and death as a cause and a creed. We stand for a different choice - made long ago, on the day of our founding. We affirm it again today. We choose freedom and the dignity of every life."-George W.Bush (Aren't THEY sending other people's children on missions of suicide and murder?) There is much more... but I'm getting so angry about all of it. It makes me sick. I'm not anti-American, but those kind of mentalities are not going to bring peace or liberty to ANYONE. What is more important to them is having all the power, and by using weapons against these "evil-doers" they can secure the fact to the rest of the world that America IS the only superpower in the world. Be that as it may, I think that the road they are taking is not one that is going to secure peace in this world or the next. This war was based on a lie. The American public was twisted into it by use of propaghanda and fear. My beliefs may not be based on what is REALLY happening, but to be honest, I'm not sure if anyone knows whats really happening. But if Iraqi civilians are being killed, Canadian diplomats are being shot at, peacekeeping anti-war activists are being taken hostage, Iraqi POW's are being degraded (remember Al Graihb?), and the president is using the Patriot Act to listen to your phone calls... things can't be going well.[/QUOTE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retribution Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 [QUOTE=Ziggy Stardust][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=Sienna]Most non-partisan (OK, maybe a bit partisan...) economists project America's debt to reach 1.3 [b]TRILLION[/b] dollars. [...] Basically what I'm saying is... the US is ******. The days of being a superpower will, soon enough (if they don't already), exist soley in the self-made image (aka propogandga) that the US has constructed for itself. Have fun.[/COLOR][/FONT][/QUOTE] [size=1]Eh, try a bit higher on the debt-estimate. We're really screwed. But we're still a superpower, despite our huge debt. We're certainly one of the strongest nations on the block -- I mean, whether that'll change or not is up for debate, but for the time being, we're still a formidable foe.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Flasher Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 [QUOTE=Retribution][size=1]Eh, try a bit higher on the debt-estimate. We're really screwed. But we're still a superpower, despite our huge debt. We're certainly one of the strongest nations on the block -- I mean, whether that'll change or not is up for debate, but for the time being, we're still a formidable foe.[/size][/QUOTE][COLOR=Sienna][FONT=Times New Roman] Oh, yes, millitarily the US will be formidable for some time, barring somthing drastic... the US' biggest strength is the willingness of it's people to defend it, and the ease with which they can be armed. But being a superpower means more than being able to bully your way around with a millitary, a superpower is a country that excels in all aspects... not just millitary, but agriculture and economy and trade and foreign policy and everything... once the US is gone, which it argueably already has, from superpowerdom, there will be no one left. It sure as hell won't be China :animestun [/COLOR][/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 however, I always wondered what would happen to Canada if anything ever did happen to the US, like if they lost their power or what.. and not just Canada, the rest of the world... well I guess for the rest of the world the power would just shift to another country.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_kr3w_x Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I think he is a horrible president and he makes america look like a country full of rich dumbasses and he dosent care about anyone besides like rich christians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retribution Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 [QUOTE=Ziggy Stardust][COLOR=Sienna][FONT=Times New Roman] Oh, yes, millitarily the US will be formidable for some time, barring somthing drastic... the US' biggest strength is the willingness of it's people to defend it, and the ease with which they can be armed. But being a superpower means more than being able to bully your way around with a millitary, a superpower is a country that excels in all aspects... not just millitary, but agriculture and economy and trade and foreign policy and everything... once the US is gone, which it argueably already has, from superpowerdom, there will be no one left. It sure as hell won't be China :animestun [/COLOR][/FONT][/QUOTE] [size=1]So you're saying there will be no superpowers once America declines? I'm confused. Of course China will be a superpower -- they pay their workers close to nothing, so they can produce more than any other nation thanks for their huge population. They're catching up with the US so fast it's hilarious/scary, depending on how you view things. And plenty of Europe will be a superpower -- I think you're really underestimating Europe's capability both economically and militarily. I agree with you that to be a superpower, you have to be strong in more respects than just one. But I don't think America's going to decline into some dark-age state where we end up like Niger or something. I'm pretty certain that as long as we're in Iraq, we're going to go downhill, but I think that lost ground will be easy to pick up once a wise President reaches office. The first step will be to pay off this monumental debt, which will really be something, but I wouldn't count America out of the world scene.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Flasher Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 [QUOTE=KatanaViolet]however, I always wondered what would happen to Canada if anything ever did happen to the US, like if they lost their power or what.. and not just Canada, the rest of the world... well I guess for the rest of the world the power would just shift to another country....[/QUOTE][FONT=Times New Roman] [COLOR=Sienna] I wouldn't be to worried... it's generally thought that Canada is symbiotic to the US, but that is not the case. In fact, it's often the other way around. In terms of millions of dollars, Canada gets less in trade than it gives the US ( [url]http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/trad45a.htm[/url] ), we don't depend on them for protection (Who would want to invade us?), we don't rely on them for our survival. Now, obviously the US' fall from power would be harmful to our economy, the US is our biggest trading partner, but we could get by. We're capable of being self-sufficiant with our low population and large amount of production, our surplus is incredible. We'd be fine.[/COLOR][/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 [QUOTE=Ziggy Stardust][FONT=Times New Roman] [COLOR=Sienna] I wouldn't be to worried... it's generally thought that Canada is symbiotic to the US, but that is not the case. In fact, it's often the other way around. In terms of millions of dollars, Canada gets less in trade than it gives the US ( [url]http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/trad45a.htm[/url] ), we don't depend on them for protection (Who would want to invade us?), we don't rely on them for our survival. Now, obviously the US' fall from power would be harmful to our economy, the US is our biggest trading partner, but we could get by. We're capable of being self-sufficiant with our low population and large amount of production, our surplus is incredible. We'd be fine.[/COLOR][/FONT][/QUOTE] I see what you mean, and you could be right,but the thought "Who would want to invade us?" just sounds aloof. You never know. I never thought anyone would pull a major attack on American soil after what happened with Japan after Pearl Harbor, but it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Sound_Nin] Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 [QUOTE=KatanaViolet]however, I always wondered what would happen to Canada if anything ever did happen to the US, like if they lost their power or what.. and not just Canada, the rest of the world... well I guess for the rest of the world the power would just shift to another country....[/QUOTE] If the US lost power, the reigning "country" wouldn't be A country at all. It would be the EU. They're the other superpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 [color=darkslateblue] Ok, well, I haven't really read through all of the posts in this thread (>_>), but I was really disgusted when the video of Bush before Hurricane Katrina started circulating everywhere. I used to keep up with politics and whatnot and I've definately fallen out of that loop from since then, and I don't know the details concerining the video, but seriously. I know there was huge speculation over Bush's responses to Katrina, but now [i]this[/i] comes up and all I can think is 'wtf?'. Leader=helping people. Not preparing for giant hurricane that will flood city=not helping people. I think it's pretty simple.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 [quote name='GoldScorpion78']If the US lost power, the reigning "country" wouldn't be A country at all. It would be the EU. They're the other superpower.[/quote] Don't forget about China. They're the ones who make almost everything we own. Also, I just want to note, that if Canada's Prime Minister ever tried to instill something like the Patriot Act, I wouldn't stand for it. That's such a violation of so many rights. See, most Canadians aren't Anti-American, we just don't want to be like you guys. I've been to the states many times, and the actions of the Bush administration don't reflect on American society very well at all. Needless to say, the state of affairs today make me lose faith in humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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