Theory on life.

[Guest D. Resurrected]

Just curious what is your theory of life.Me I believe personaly that we die but Truely I do not believe someone dead till someone is forgoton.hop that makes sence to everyone :animesmil

[Derald]

[FONT=Lucida Console][SIZE=1][COLOR=Sienna]Don't worry, I can understand you just fine.

I have pondered this many times over, and the best I can come up with so far is, somewhat the same as what you stated, that thought, memory, and acknowledgement define existence.

As long as a record is kept in the collective subconscious of mankind, then a person, object, and/or place shall exist. Being so, when there is no record of any of these things, then there is only ackowledgement of the thinking individual, and all else does not exist. Memory acts as the accumulating encyclopedia, if you will, of this reality, and as you pass down findings (by mouth, books, etc.) to the next generation, your surroundings' existence is to be built upon, continuing the acknowledgement of things that have disappeared, died, and/or been replaced.

But then again, existence is but an abstract concept which has been fabricated by that which is referred to as the mind. [B]We[/B] assign meaning to things in [B]our[/B] own reality, therefore do we really know anything at all? Language, mathematics, art, we have defined all of these things within our own subconscious, using our own logic. But is that logic the truth?

....I'm going to stop now, before I confuse myself further, as I cannot express my thoughts through simple words.

So, that's a start, right?

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[Guest Mythology]

I can see what you mean with your theory on memory i agree.

but to what point of memory does it count do you have to have MLK stateus or does even the smallest memory of one person count because what good is the momeory of someones death if your not able to remence with others about the person.

even though it is a reguler ambision for both men and wemon alike to whant to be remembered thats why so many people try to get rich because with money comes power and those with power are forever remembered for having that power.

or is it the things that we do such as help others and is it thourgh that connection of emotion are we remembered by the great things we do whether they be good or bad that make us live in the hearts of others whether thuorgh hope or fear as long as some one remembers you and the things you did.

[the_sixth_child]

I think life is too short to be taken seriously and should be enjoyed as much as possible....ok this response was really short but that's how I feel on the subject. I tend not to think about it too much but when it comes up very little is said on my part :animeswea .

[Albert Flasher]

[FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=Sienna]Ah... the 'We don't go to hell, just our mem'ries do' theory... interesting.

In a sense, I do agree, so long as somone is remembered they'll never truely be gone. But that won't comfort me on my death bed, I'll still be dead, and so far as I can tell dieing isn't much fun. Really, I don't have a theory on life. I've learned that overthinking things often isn't a good thing, so I try to lead a life as simply as I can.

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[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]As far as you can tell, you exist. So, as long as you still exist, I suggest you use that time wisely.

Beyond that, it's whatever you want to think. I'm sure people will have fun ranting and raving in this thread though, lol.[/color]

[kenshinsbabe]

[SIZE=2][FONT=Georgia]This sounds more like a "Theory on Death" thread, they way it's going.

Personally, I don't have a theory for death. I hope it's more that just rotting in a hole in the ground, but I won't know until it happens, will I? But back to the topic. My theory on life is that if you live it for other people, your life will be full. If you can be a shining light for at least one person, than you've done what you were set on the earth to do.

I suppose it could be counted as more of an existance theory, but that's what I think. If you live life solely for the purpose of making yourself happy, what's the point? But if you live for other people, live to help them or guide them or just to be there for them, then you've done good. Besides, doing good things for other people makes you feel good. ^_^[/FONT][/SIZE]

[Zephyr]

I am not sure where to start here, so I guess I will start with my beliefs about existance. I have given the idea some thought in the past, and have come up with a personal definition to existence.

Existence: The state of being able to affect the course of a single predetermined event within a system.

Now the fun part, what does that mean. Simply put, so long as you can change one event in any system (such as the universe), you can prove that you exist. For instance, a spark has a brief lifespan, however we can prove its existence because of the flash of light, and combustion of dry leaves (as an example). The spark changed the predetermined events by creating spontaneous light, heat, and a resulting chemical reaction. That means that even for a brief instant that spark existed.

As for death, I have a strange belief about this one. While we as humans may cease to exist as living beings, we still exist in the various forms that created us, both physical and energy. And since matter and energy are never created or destroyed, I believe that we still exist even after death. Thinking this way, the idea of reincarnation is not so hard to believe when you consider the matter and energy we are composed of are used to create something else in the universe. Thus, our existance is perpetual, even if life is short.

That belief may also be the one that drives the human race to reproduce. The urge to live forever, even it is through the life the species as a whole. Since our genetic makeup is transfered to our offspring we continue our life through them.


Well, that is enough philosophy for today. Otherwise I will ramble on for a while. :animeswea

[Retribution]

[QUOTE=Derald][FONT=Lucida Console][SIZE=1][COLOR=Sienna]
As long as a record is kept in the collective subconscious of mankind, then a person, object, and/or place shall exist. Being so, when there is no record of any of these things, then there is only ackowledgement of the thinking individual, and all else does not exist. Memory acts as the accumulating encyclopedia, if you will, of this reality, and as you pass down findings (by mouth, books, etc.) to the next generation, your surroundings' existence is to be built upon, continuing the acknowledgement of things that have disappeared, died, and/or been replaced.

But then again, existence is but an abstract concept which has been fabricated by that which is referred to as the mind. [B]We[/B] assign meaning to things in [B]our[/B] own reality, therefore do we really know anything at all? Language, mathematics, art, we have defined all of these things within our own subconscious, using our own logic. But is that logic the truth?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
[size=1]I think I see what you're getting at for the first paragraph. However, those who are remembered are those in the history books, not some merchant who lived in Venice two thousand years ago. That merchant is dead was buried and forgotten about. People don't remember what he did, how old he was when he died, or who his suriving family was. He's another corpse in the box, rotting away.

I think that our entire purpose on Earth is to 'love thy neighbor' and 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you,' and the most difficult, 'love your enemy.' If we all tried our hardest to do those three, the world would be very close to perfect -- as close as humans could get it. Those who say "Just enjoy life, cause it's short" completely miss the point. Those who say "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die" also completely miss the point, well IMHO, anyway.

As for your second paragraph, I definitely see what you're saying, and have thought that myself for a time. However, I think that there are universal truths. For example, we all know gravity exists -- that exists without human logic. We wouldn't [i]know[/i] it existed, but it would exist regardless. Now, for something like language, yes, we completely pulled that out of a hat, and it would cease to exist once humans are exterminated. Art, on the other hand, is completely made up by humans, but what [i]appeals[/i] to humans exists -- it gives us pleasure to look at a piece of art we enjoy. Therefore, aesthetics still exist, just not the art itself... if you follow. :3

And... I was going to say something about Frost's "Life goes on" quote, but I'm too lazy to do so at the moment.[/size]

[Starwind]

The Egyptians believed to say the name of the deceased is to make them live again, so I suppose your theory on life is about the same as there's. But, I suppose to define life would be like trying to define human exsistence. It probably varies from person to person, there are as many reasons as there are people and goals. Though I suppose you could say there is no definite theory of life. It's quite philisophical to think about what life means, but I think that there will never be a certain answer to that question. But, it gives me a warm feeling to know that people are thinking of deeper things then just what's on TV.

[Guest D. Resurrected]

[QUOTE=Derald][FONT=Lucida Console][SIZE=1][COLOR=Sienna]Don't worry, I can understand you just fine.

I have pondered this many times over, and the best I can come up with so far is, somewhat the same as what you stated, that thought, memory, and acknowledgement define existence.

As long as a record is kept in the collective subconscious of mankind, then a person, object, and/or place shall exist. Being so, when there is no record of any of these things, then there is only ackowledgement of the thinking individual, and all else does not exist. Memory acts as the accumulating encyclopedia, if you will, of this reality, and as you pass down findings (by mouth, books, etc.) to the next generation, your surroundings' existence is to be built upon, continuing the acknowledgement of things that have disappeared, died, and/or been replaced.

But then again, existence is but an abstract concept which has been fabricated by that which is referred to as the mind. [B]We[/B] assign meaning to things in [B]our[/B] own reality, therefore do we really know anything at all? Language, mathematics, art, we have defined all of these things within our own subconscious, using our own logic. But is that logic the truth?

....I'm going to stop now, before I confuse myself further, as I cannot express my thoughts through simple words.

So, that's a start, right?

Later.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
Derald that was VERY well put my freind.you could have not have said it better.good job on the posts everyone you all are doing great.the theorys are very good.

p.s. derald is that picture from silent hill 3

[Lt.Zero]

I agree on you're the theory of life. I also think that this life-time is a test.

[Funny Girl]

[quote name='D. Resurrected']Just curious what is your theory of life.Me I believe personaly that we die but Truely I do not believe someone dead till someone is forgoton.hop that makes sence to everyone :animesmil[/quote]

you are right in a way like even if we are here we may or may not have a reason to be here like we could die and never know where we will end up. we may end up in hell or in heaven but even if we die there is certainy that we may come back as someon totally different and never what we did in our other life before we died.but there is hope that stands with us no matter where we are and no matter who we are with at that time we still have hope and some of us never know.we can trapped in a corner and fell threatened some way or another.

[Awaken]

[COLOR=Indigo]I think once you except that penguins are the dominant species and are taking over the earth, then your life will be put into perspective :D sry i'm not in a very serious mood right now :catgirl: [/COLOR]

[The13thMan]

[FONT=Century Gothic] [COLOR=DarkOrange]Derald, i can see what you're saying. But i personally believe that pondering what we perceive as truth is truth or not is a pointless endeavor. What I perceive as truth is truth enough for me for now. If we trouble ourselves worrying about such things then we may never truly be happy. And if I never figure out the absolute truth, then I?ll be fine as long as I lived my life how I wanted to live it.

My personal theory on life is that we live to be happy. Everything we do is so that we can be happy. I can even justify that to the most selfless of actions. Why do we go to school? It?s to get a good education, to get a good job, to make a lot of money, and to life comfortably. To be happy! Why do we seek love? Well, duh, so that we can be happy. Why did I give my brother that little piece of candy even though I wanted it? Because I like to see my little brother happy, it makes me happy.

Of course I don?t believe the desire to be happy is an absolute desire that surpasses all others. There?s also the desire to do what we consider right or to discover the truth of things.

I also think that another purpose for most people is to try to find out what we believe is the next step after life.

Later.


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[HarveyDandylion]

My theory on life is that we are only components of a greater whole; and as such are own personality, memories, and other components of our own self are only tools used to be able to act within the world. By that i geuss im suggesting that one person is unimportant, there theories on life are also unimportant and the only thing that remains when you are dead is the affect your actions had on shaping the society/ culture you are apart of or the greater global systems.
People are lumps of various molecules and substances, that run on instinct from our genetic memories and from the learned experiences passed down from there enviroment or rather the social enviroment. So efectively i believe we are all just pieces in a continuosly progressing species and that an individual is truly unimportant unless they can achiev great things for the greater whole.

Of course this is only me opinion, and i cant say i have achieved anything as of yet that would make my own existence meaningfull.

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Oh and, i remember reading or hearing a theory that was quite interesting to do with conciousness. It was basically suggesting that there is an entity or exchange particle or particle of some sort that actuall causes us to be concious purely because we are the highest form of life currently on the planet.
Im not going to say anymore because ive never been able to find were i read that or anything lese on it to reference but id thought id through it out there.