Sayuri-sama Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 well i recently discovered that a friend of mine was plagerising her art work by printing other artists work from deviant art and simply tracing on the exact drawing with pencil to make it look real. i am very disappointed in her and since she is older i looked up to her. but now i just feel tricked and lied to. i have absolutly zero tolerence for plagerism so i confronted her about it. i sort of told her off about it.and i just got another lie thrown right back at me.i just wanted to know what you guys thought about it. was i right to confront her and tell her off about her lie as well as our friends? this isnt the first time she lies about something. and im begining to think her only art is the art of lying.:animedepr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retribution Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [size=1]It certainly was right of you to confront her about her plagurising your works. Honestly, I think it would've been wrong if you had done anything [i]but[/i] confront her. Art is a very personal thing, and plaguising work is akin to stealing someone's child at birth. You also don't need friends that A) steal your work and pass it off as their own, and B) then lie to your face about it after you confront them about it. I'd report her to the dA moderators/administrators and get her banned, personally. I'd be beyond pissed if I every saw someone stealing my work like that. Heck, I get mad when even my style is emulated (which is childish, I suppose). Good luck on the whole problem with your "friend."[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoSama101 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 i would see about remaining friends with them. yes, confront them. but don't ruin your entire friendship over this. try to talk to them about it and see why they did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayuri-sama Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 actaully Retribution, i never said she was plagerising my works. shes been going on Deviant art.com and printing other peoples drawings and trying to pass them off as her own. honestly if you erase the graphite off the drawing you see its all pixelated on the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [COLOR=DarkOliveGreen]Well if your friend is posting the pictures somewhere claiming that they drew them then I would turn them in like Retribution suggested. Whether it?s your art or not is irrelevant. Your friend did steal and if they steal from others if you have art too they might steal from you as well. Usually people who steal have no trouble stealing from any and everyone. Though she might be smart enough to never show you the copies she did of your art. If you have art that is. You ask if it was right to confront her, well is it right to just say nothing? Do you really want to protect a friendship that on some level is based on a lie? And what about the people she may have hurt by stealing? What if they were your friends? Wouldn?t you want the person plagiarizing to be stopped since stealing is wrong? If your friend is acting like they did nothing wrong then do you really want someone like that as a friend? Not only is she hurting the artists she steals from but also she is hurting you by pretending to be something she?s not. If she had admitted she was wrong and tried to make amends then I?d keep being a friend. But based on what you?ve said it sounds like she sees nothing wrong with stealing and lying to you and her other friends. And that to me is someone who is unworthy of being your friend.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepoke Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 That is truely bullcrap. I really dont see why people plagerize, it only shows they dont have any talent, or creativity. You should report whoever is doing this, even if he/she is your friend. It may not seem like a big deal, but plagerizing is illegal! Some people dont even know that. But I do admit, you can find some great stuff on deviant art. Sorry, I had to get that out of my system.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayuri-sama Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 [size=1]well honestly she does act like noting happened and i pisses me off. the dad thing i cannot find the email of the girl whose drqawing she plagerized. i am currently searching for all the other plagerized artworks. and yes i do have art of my own. but i do not like to post it online for the obvious reason.[/size] [size=1]i am also trying to find out if everything on deviant art is copywritted. because if it is shes in for a nasty surprise.[/size] [size=1]to resply to the previous question and in accordance with other testimonies of people that have known her longer that i have, she has been lying to everyone her whole time spent here (she is constantly moving). i think that is very low.:animeangr [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManjoumeThunder Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 [COLOR=Blue]Call me crazy.....but last time I checked.....copying other people's art on deviant violates terms of service. I don't know if confronting her about this really was a wise decision, unless you were intending on breaking off your friendship. If I had been in the position you were in, probably I would of waited it out and let her get in trouble eventually. Things like that don't go unnoticed, and if any of the work posted on deviant was in fact actually copyrighted she'll be in for a nasty suprise. I'm not an artist at all, more like graphically impaired...but being a writer of sorts I can relate to how one would feel if my stuff was being copied.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiyuu Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 [font=Trebuchet MS]Was she actually posting the plagiarised artworks back onto devArt? Or was she printing them, tracing them and passing them off as her own to her friends?[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 [COLOR=#656446][SIZE=1]^ The latter, I think. Her friend was just printing dA stuff and drawing over them. Do ask her why she did such a thing. She must have a reason, yeah? If she did it to win your friendship, give her the assurance that you'd still be friends even if she isn't good at drawing. After all, your bond with her runs deeper than your mutual love for art (amirite?).[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayuri-sama Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 well ive known her for two years and i have been trying to find out why shes been doing this. i confronted her twice about it but i just cant seem to get it out of her. i have just recently found about 14 of "her" drawings on deviant art. what i mean is i found the originals by other people. everything on that site is copywritted. i cannot let this go by unnoticed. its sad that someone i looked up to turns out to be a fake. i've been played for a fool. she also lies about everything else about her life! i swear she spews lies 24/7! this is an insult to my intelligence.:animeangr And i know she isnt doing this to become my friend because i didnt know she could "draw" til about a year after i met her. all my friends know i am a very caring person, with my temper, but i really care about everyone. that can make me rather gullible and naiive at times:animeswea . i cannot believe shes been doing this. how shameful:animesigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 [color=#b00007][size=1]First and foremost, this person is your friend. If you want things to [i]stay[/i] that way, you'd darn well better be careful on how you handle things. You can attack her with proof of her plagiarism, yell at her, and demand an explanation--but that's not gonna help your relationship any. Everyone's an idiot sometimes, and I know I really appreciate it when my friends don't dump me on my butt just because I do something abysmally stupid. If she's tracing artwork, it's because she wants people to think she can draw. It's because she wants to feel special, because she wants to impress people, and because she doesn't know how else to do it. Is it a bad idea? Heck yes. Are you going to help the situation by yelling at her? Um, no. You are going to make her feel defensive, hurt, and victimised. Trust me, that is the [i]last[/i] thing you want to deal with. [b]Edit[/b]: Of course, if you really think she "spews lies 24/7," you can disregard my post and just have at her, because her any friendship you have with her isn't--or shouldn't be--that high on your priority list.[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 [COLOR=DarkSlateBlue]Actually I?m not sure confronting her is the best thing. It just depends on if she really feels there is nothing wrong with plagiarizing. But there could be many reasons why she?s doing it. She could be lonely and it?s a way to get attention or she may even feel that unless she?s good at something no one will like her. If she is posting it elsewhere claiming it?s her art I would quietly report it for plagiarism and let the moderators of the site take care of it. Sometimes getting caught doing something wrong is enough to stop someone from doing it again. And the advantage of doing that is she can come to terms with the stealing without losing all her friends. Then if she doesn't change well at that poing it might be best to not be friends with her since lying hurts more than the person who is doing it. I don?t know what to say since she could also be depressed and just lying to cover up how she really feels. I guess I would just hate to see you lose a friendship if it isn?t necessary. Anyway, best of luck with all that. [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayuri-sama Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 first of all sara, i suggest you go back and reread my previous posts. i never said anything about yelling at her or being that rash.i just opened her eyes to the fact that we know what she is up to. and answer me just one question, do you think its is right for her to plagerize? anyways further on my case she seems to be acting as if nothing has happened and hasnt plagerized any further works. i believe she may have been doing that out of sheer jealousy. it wouldnt have been the first time it has happened. many people get envious of the way my friend and i draw, thus do things to screw us up or copy us. we are still friends, but im glad i was able to show her im no push over and that im smarter than to fall for something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 [QUOTE=Sayuri-sama]first of all sara, i suggest you go back and reread my previous posts. i never said anything about yelling at her or being that rash.i just opened her eyes to the fact that we know what she is up to. and answer me just one question, do you think its is right for her to plagerize? anyways further on my case she seems to be acting as if nothing has happened and hasnt plagerized any further works. i believe she may have been doing that out of sheer jealousy. it wouldnt have been the first time it has happened. many people get envious of the way my friend and i draw, thus do things to screw us up or copy us. we are still friends, but im glad i was able to show her im no push over and that im smarter than to fall for something like that.[/QUOTE][color=#b0000b][size=1]That part of my post was written more in response to the other advice posted in this thread, than it was to your original post. I expressly said that it is not "right" to plagiarise; however, my point is that [i]open, aggressive confrontation[/i] is not the best way to mend the situation, particularly if you hope to remain friends. And oh, yes. You are far too smart to fall for someone's lonely plea for attention and friendship. It's no wonder so many people are jealous of you.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 [SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting. 99% of what can be said on the morality of plagiarism has been said, if she was just tracing the images for her own enjoyment then there's nothing wrong with it, but as she's passing the work off as her own then it's akin to stealing. However seeing as you posted saying she's ceased her plagiarism then I guess there's nothing further to be done except try and prevent her from doing it in the future, that is if she doesn't wish to be considered a thief and charlatan.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayuri-sama Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 well yes she has ceased her plagerism. that and i think my talk (note: not agressive confrontation) with her has taught her a lesson. no further comment on the issue. if she does it again i will confront her about it again. thats all i have to say :animesigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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