Discuss Stargate RP Ideas [PG13]

[Jokopoko]

[size=1][color=teal]I'm not sure about the popularity of Stargate on OB so before I go ahead and start planning and eventually posting a Stargate based RP I'd just like to test the mood. There are a few ideas I've had.

[b]Number One:[/b] Still set in the Milky Way Galaxy but on a planet that isn't Earth. My reckoning behind this is basically "Is Earth really the only planet with something like the SGC?". So this planet would be operating a similar establishment but I see them as having more access too and greater understanding of Ancient (Alteran) technology. The down side too this I suppose is having to create an entirely new planet.

[b]Number Two:[/b] A similar set up to "Stargate Atlantis" in that we find a similar Alteran City but in the Ori Home Galaxy so we sent that up as our own Beach Head there. I'd assume we'd have two or three ZPMs so we'd be more powered than Atlantis is as of season two.

[b]Number Three:[/b] The third idea is that at some point during the coming war with the Ori the SGC finds this highly advanced ship designed by the Alterans before the plauge and was never truely used. Dubbing the ship as "Excalibur" (There seems to be a strong Athurian feel running through Season 9) they gather together the best of the best with knowledge of the Stargate and make sure they all have the ATA Gene. So this would be kind of like "Star Trek" mixed with "Stargate".

So tell me what you think, all comments welcome.[/size][/color]

[Doukeshi]

[SIZE=1]I like ideas number one and number two. I am more inclined to go with number one however, since I haven't really been watching the most recent SG-1 series nor have I been watching Atlantis. With a new sort of planet you have the choice of creating your own world and works etc and then you also have the choice of bringing in familiar characters at a later date.[/SIZE]

[Darth Vectis]

[COLOR=DarkGreen][SIZE=1]I like ideas number one and two as well, I've been watching the serious every friday so it would be pretty cool to start a Stargate Rpg.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Engel]

[color=red][size=1]I'd do a Stargate RP. But I like idea #1 the best. A whole new beginning and such, ne? I hope you do decide to develop this.

-Aizen (Red Masked Man.)[/color][/size]

[Jokopoko]

[color=teal][size=1]Well if people seem to be favouring the first idea I suppose I should roll with that. In terms of how we'd deal with this new world and race of Humans I said in the original post I see them as having more influence from the Ancients because there world has been out of the way of the Goa'uld for a while now and they've uncovered quite a few Ancient technologies which they've been able to incorperate into their society.

Seeing as its an "alien" world and has Ancient influcence I see them using something akin to Latin for words, such as calling the Stargates [i]Astri Porta[/i] which is what the Ancients called them. But let me make clear this will run along the same lines as my attempted Star Trek RP in that it will be episodic which is a varient of the chapter system James developed.

If you have thoughts and ideas for this planet please don't hesitate to post.[/size][/color]

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting.

Well as I said when we spoke about the idea of a new Stargate idea, after sad failure of my last one despite some good sign ups. Anyway, my rambling aside I think either idea No. 1 or No. 3 would be the most plausable from an RPG point of view, with No. 2 we'd run the risk of having it simply become another Atlantis with a different enemy. However if I were asked to pick between 1 and 3, I'd go with 1 as it's simply the most interesting from the point of view of a potential RPG.

As for the background behind this civilisation we could say that given their access to Alteran technology they have been unwilling to interact with the galaxy as a whole, as to prevent the proliferation of potentially apocalyptic weapons in the hands of idiots [[i]cough[/i]]McKay[[i]cough[/i]]. I mean there are several civilisations in the Milky Way at home who are rather advanced that Earth comes across every so often, it's not as if we'd be the only ones they've ever run into who have their own exploration program. [/SIZE]

[BebopHitchhiker]

My personal feeling and choice for a Stargate RPG would be #1, with a touch of #3 thrown in (possibly a starship of their own design and construction). I think this has potential. However, it would be prudent (not to mention a whole lot more fun) for the players have a working knowlege of the Stargate series. But overall, I like the idea. When you decide to start sign-ups, count on me to throw my kevlar helmet into the ring.

[NekoSama101]

i vote for #1 also. it has a stargate spin off feel to it (like stargate atlantis). I also agree that the players to have knowledge of the series, it wouldn't make much sense if they didn't.

[Jokopoko]

[color=teal][size=1]To be honest with all I'm actually more of a fan of my third idea, so much so that I've written up this brief synopsis. Tell me what you think:

[center][b]STARGATE[/b]
Excalibur

[i]?There drew he forth the brand Excalibur,
And o?er him, drawing it, the winter moon,
Brightening the skirts of a long cloud, ran forth
And sparkled keen with frost against the hilt:
For all the haft twinkled with diamond sparks,
Myriads of topaz-lights, and jacinth-work
Of subtlest jewellery.?[/i]

~*~[/center]

The Alterans did not just build the Stargate network. They built great cities such as Atlantis, they built great weapons such as the Drones, they built great archives for storing every facet of their civilization, they also built a great fleet of ships. While the Stargates provided instantaneous transport between their worlds the Alterans knew that these portals were hard to defend and they would be vulnerable to attack from above, so it was decided they would construct a great fleet of ships to not only defend their worlds but also seek out new ones on which life could be seeded and Stargates built.

From the smallest survey vessels to the mightiest cruisers the Alterans soon had a fleet that was on par with that of their Asgard Allies. The Alterans while not a malicious or cruel people by any stretch of the imagination they where a proud people and they soon wished to build a craft that would surpass any that had yet been seen and any that would come. Like there great city ships which were bound to the planet of there construction as a defendable position and central nexus for the planet this great ship was envisaged as the central nexus for the Alteran fleet which all ships could rely on in times of need.

Even though the Alterans were pacifists at heart they did understand the need for weaponry in the face of hostile aliens. They equipped this ship with innumerable drone weapons, prototype beam weaponry developed along with the Asgard and one of the most power shield generators of their time. Her speed would be unmatched in normal space and the Hyperdrive generator was the fastest they made and also capable of intergalactic travel. In appearance she was a like a great behemoth which many glittering lights and great engines ploughing through the vast emptiness of space. Sadly before the Alterans could fully activate this jewel a great plague swept through the galaxy they inhabited, many of them choose too shed their corporeal form while a small group took the city ship Atlantis too another galaxy in the hopes of starting again.

The ship was left to slumber on one of there worlds, gradually the world changed and a great flood came a sank this great vessel but the mighty construction of the Alterans stood firm against the crushing depths. After many years had past a small ground of un-ascended Alterans returned to Earth and finding a savage land they began teaching the humans there as best they could. One of these was known as Myrddin but the chronicles of Man would soon remember him as Merlin the Wizard and mentor of King Arthur of the Britons. One of the many tales he told Arthur was that of this great ship, Arthur interpreted it as best he could as a powerful sword and named his own sword in honour of this great ship, Excalibur.

Now that Earth was become an active member of the galactic stage after rediscovering their Stargate they began searching out advanced technology. They found many enemies in the galaxy but they also found allies and new technology. Eventually one of their greatest enemies, the Goa?uld, were defeated along with the powerful machine force of the Replicators. For a time Earth knew peace in the galaxy but it was not so, they found the Ori. But as a brief respite they discovered a treasure trove of Merlin?s Alteran technology and notes about other locations. A brief mention was given to this great ship resting in the deeps of this world.

[center]The SGC is going to find it.[/center][/size][/color]

[Disenchanted]

[COLOR=RoyalBlue]This idea sounds quite good i think (eventho everyone voted for 1 and i was going to vote for 1 also lol). i havent been watching Atlantis but from what my mates have told me i understand the story line and where your going with it. not bad i think its allright. i love stargate XD although i havent followed it passed the 7/8th season guess ill have to read up on it (school sux). But yeah anyway getting back to the point. Synopsis is good probably would help if i had more knowledge of stuff... (tired must sleep will edit)[/COLOR]

[BebopHitchhiker]

Well, in my humble opinion, I can only think of one word for that synopsis:

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE the idea. Using that as source material, I think this could make one GREAT RPG. I'm all for it.

[Cambrian_Explosion]

I was going to say option one or three, seeing as I'd have a hard time believing we could undertake a counterstrike against the Ori in their own galaxy, with the first wave of the armada breathing down our necks. The first idea would require a huge amount of thought and planning, but would be in my opinion the most rewarding and fun, seeing as we could invent our own society. Idea #3 kinda threw me when you said it would be a bit like Star Trek, but could definitely work.

That was before you gave us that wonderful synopsis.

Now my vote is unoquivically for the Excalibur story. I love the idea of taking the Alteran's latest and greatest toy and testing it against the Ori (and possibly the Wraith). That would be so cool. I'd hang onto the first idea though, and save it for a future date when you have nothing better to do, or have a sudden inspiration. Or both (it happens sometimes).

[Jokopoko]

[color=teal][size=1]I've seen thinking and I've seen a tendency in most Stargate spin-offs is to go to a new Galaxy so they don't mess with each others storylines unless its a crossover story, this is true for Atlantis and the virtual series' Destiny and Horizon. So how does this sound:

Some time [i]before[/i] the plague came a group of Alterans were dispatched to the Phoenix Dwarf galaxy in some kind of exploration mission but before they could return the plague struck so they remained in the Phoenix galaxy and did what Alterans do, that is build a Gate network and ascend etc. So the human cultures in this galaxy developed unhindered for some time until the myriad of alien life achieved sentients and became jealous of these thriving cultures and started attacking them.

Now the Excalibur was also built before the plague so it has information on this expedition in its memory banks and this is an excellent chance to get Alteran, or equivalent, technology from these advanced human cultures. So the crew along with a large group intending to settle in Phoenix for a time head off to this new galaxy with the Excalibur as proof of their connection with the Alterans.

I'd do this so as not to mess with SG-1 Season Ten and SGA Season 3, sound good? Note: It's been said that the weaponry for the ship is a bit over the top so I think I'll be toning it down a bit.[/size][/color]

[NekoSama101]

i like it.

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Given the sheer effort you've poured into this Bill, I have little doubt that Excalibur wouldn't prove to be an immensely interesting RPG. We've already got the likes of the Daedalus and a few other mentioned Earth built ships, but in reality there's not all that much going on. I know there's the Orion but I haven't seen SG1 since way before the Season Finale, which you kindly reminded me the last time we spoke so I can't really comment on it. But generally there's not been that much exploration, excuse the pun.

I'm just curious Bill, if the Ancients in this new galaxy weren't infected with the plague at the time of the Excalibur's mission, and went on to build the whole Gate network and start a new human race, again. Why did they ascend so quickly ? The other Alterans did it, to my knowledge, to avoid the plague's effects. Chances are they probably would have gone back to Earth and linked up with their leaders there, unless ordered to do otherwise.[/SIZE]

[Jokopoko]

[color=teal][size=1]Just to bring this/these idea(s) back I'm still thinking about whether to do this RPG on OB or not. But the point currently is that I've been watching "Stargate Atlantis" an awful lot lately and I've really fallen in love with the city itself again and would really be up for doing something based in a similar city or even have them working in tandem. That is the Excalibur operating out of this city so it would be like the Atlantis-Daedalus mechanic. So give me your thoughts on this.

[i]Edit:[/i] I've just had a thought. Instead of this being about an expedition from Earth discovering Excalibur and all this and the fact I would like to use a City akin to Altantis how does this sound: We are the group of Ancients that went off to the Phoenix galaxy, you could say that Pegasus wasn't the only place the Ancients "fled" too with this plauge [Though technically we're not fleeing.]

So its like Gavin's old SG RP where we were playing Ancients who survived the plauge but rather than being in the Milky Way we've taken our City to a new galaxy where we'd build new Gates and establish a whole new territoty, I think that it would make for a really good RP and we could work the idea of Excalibur in to it somehow, so opinions on this idea?[/size][/color]

[NekoSama101]

i think you should do it on the ob because i want to be in it and i'm sure a lot of other people on here do too. but where ever you want to have it is up to you. personally, i liked the first idea better with Excalibur being the center of the story.

[Gavin]

[QUOTE=Jokopoko][color=teal][size=1][i]Edit:[/i] I've just had a thought. Instead of this being about an expedition from Earth discovering Excalibur and all this and the fact I would like to use a City akin to Altantis how does this sound: We are the group of Ancients that went off to the Phoenix galaxy, you could say that Pegasus wasn't the only place the Ancients "fled" too with this plauge [Though technically we're not fleeing.]

So its like Gavin's old SG RP where we were playing Ancients who survived the plauge but rather than being in the Milky Way we've taken our City to a new galaxy where we'd build new Gates and establish a whole new territoty, I think that it would make for a really good RP and we could work the idea of Excalibur in to it somehow, so opinions on this idea?[/size][/color][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1]Being completely honest with you Bill, I think it's not such a great idea. While my last Stargate RPG gave people the option to play as an Ancient/Alteran, I think I underestimated how difficult it is to actually roleplay as one, because in essence we will be the ultimate power in our galaxy which won't lead to many challenges. The Alterans were the most advanced race in what appeared to be several galaxies, so the chances that we would encounter another enemy we wouldn't be unable to defeat is unlikely.

Personally I preferred your original idea that we were humans from the Phoenix Galaxy that evolved and had just started their own "SGC" styled organisation after coming upon the Excalibur and the Alteran City. At the end of the day Bill it is your decision and I'll join either way as I've been looking forward to a good Stargate RPG, but playing Alterans is a risky venture. [/SIZE]

[Jokopoko]

[color=teal][size=1]Well after giving it some thought it seems I shall be doing this RP on OB and it will combine both the Excalibur idea and the Phoenix Galaxy idea. Basically while we're trying to figure out what the Excalibur can do and such we stumble across the data about the prior expedition there and we accidentally send ourselves to the Phoenix Galaxy. The set up will be along the same lines as [i]?Stargate Atlantis?[/i] in that it will be an international team made up of both civilian and military.

The list of those countries who have knowledge of the Stargate program is very extensive right now so I?ll post that information in the Underground thread that?ll be coming shortly. The roles for civilians will be, again, like Atlantis, so you could be the leader like Dr. Weir or the Chief Science Advisor like Dr. McKay and so on.

Now I must [b]STRESS[/b] this point beyond all meaning and understanding, it is vital that you know a good amount about the Stargate Universe as it is an essential part of this RPG and it won?t help anyone if you try to ?blag? your way through this RPG. So please keep an eye out for ?Stargate Excalibur? in the Inn.[/size][/color]