wolf Toboe Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I know I've felt betral, but I'm not sure if it really is.will someone help me out here. People who feel the way I do, Go ahead and post here. lets see if you get answers! My problem is two of my friends told me they didn't like me around them. I was told this only around a day or two ago. I feel betrayed and like no one cares about me. Can someone help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareVC Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Just that COULD be called such. Though, a more true example is: You tell a friend/sibling a BIG secret about someone else. When you tell them not to tell, they agree. Only to find out days later that they spilled the beans anyway. Then when you try to get them to explain why, they simply reply," (insert persons name) Had a right to know," That's a better example. Betrayal is like getting stabbed in the back. Like some one throwing away all the trust you had for them by doing one effort or action. Trust me, if you REALLY felt it you'd know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 There are two posts and still no one has even spelled "betrayal" correctly. haha I can see why you feel betrayed but you really weren't. There doesn't seem to be any dishonesty involved. Your friends were apparently disloyal but they weren't false. In fact, it seems like your friends were incredibly upfront with you. Instead of gossiping behind your back or trying to humiliate you, they just told you straight up that they don't want to spend time with you. The question is: why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualkei Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 NightmareVC spelled betrayal right, Charles... Well, to me betrayal is when you trust in someone, but they make you lose trust in them. Like NightmareVC said, once you felt it, you'll know it. Your friends were being honest with you when they told you they didn't like you around them. Now if they were being mean about it such as talking behind your back and such, it'll be somewhat betraying. What you could be feeling is abandonment. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 [b]wolf Toboe[/b]- Please work on your posting quality. Proper spelling is a major plus on the OtakuBoards. Thanks! (Oh and visualkei. NightmareVC edited the post 2 minutes after Charles pointed out the spelling errors in this thread. ;) ) On topic: It's really a bummer about what happened to you wolf Toboe but I would have to agree with the others who have posted already that it's more abandonment than betrayal. To me betrayal is when you are backstabbed. Someone leads you to believe one thing then turns around and does the complete opposite. For instance: A friend tells you they won't tell anyone your deepest, darkest secret...then goes around telling anyone and everyone what you told them. That to me is betrayal. The only instance of betrayal I can think of happening to me is pety stuff in high school like the example I used above. I had told a boyfriend some personal stuff that he then told one of his buddies. Sheesh, what a loser. After that I knew I couldn't trust him anymore and shortly there after I broke up with him. At the time it hurt but looking back at it was for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareVC Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 [quote name='Panda'](Oh and visualkei. NightmareVC edited the post 2 minutes after Charles pointed out the spelling errors in this thread. ;) ).[/quote] I sure did. Typos, is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Betrayal: You think people are your friends, because they are nice to you and you hang out with them, then the guy you like tells you that he heard them talking about you, taking a hand count of who doesn't like you. The guy you like is the only one out of your "friends" who stands up for you. Betrayal: Your best friend lies about liking your ex, then you find out, get mad, and get your *** kicked by her friend who had nothing to do with it. Your ex thinks its funny. Betrayal: You finally make a good group of friends that you enjoy and trust, and then you find out they have all been lying to you, and got into doing coke but didn't want to tell you about it because you've been there and done that and have told them repeatedly you never want to be around it again. I stopped talking to those girls. We all go through it in life. I think it makes you stronger and helps you grow. But at the same time it damages your heart and makes you untrusting of other people. To this day I still question people's intentions. Perhaps that's why there are so few people nowadays I actually give the honor of calling a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Toboe Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 [QUOTE=visualkei]NightmareVC spelled betrayal right, Charles... Well, to me betrayal is when you trust in someone, but they make you lose trust in them. Like NightmareVC said, once you felt it, you'll know it. Your friends were being honest with you when they told you they didn't like you around them. Now if they were being mean about it such as talking behind your back and such, it'll be somewhat betraying. What you could be feeling is abandonment. =([/QUOTE] Yeah, I guess the only word going though my head was betralyal, but it is more like abandonment isn't it? Sorry people :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visualkei Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 By the way, wolf, I was quite succint in my post. So I'd like to say that I feel bad for you. When I was in 4th grade I was an overachiever and the teacher's pet, and by mid school year, all the girls in the class (I'm a girl btw) decided to form an anti-visualkei alliance and not be my friend. Even girls that were my closest friends one day completely began ignoring me. Well, you'll make new friends, and I don't know what to say except that I think you'll learn from this, and probably become a better person and a better friend because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derald Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=1][COLOR=Sienna]The best way to avoid betrayal is, of course, not having anyone to trust in the first place. However, that would indeed mean that you'd feel a bit isolated from the rest of society and, as [I]everyone[/I] knows, "no one wants to be left out." I have dealt with betrayal in the past, on many instances due to a girl that caught my eye. My friends and I talk about her, and it's "agreed" that they have no interest in her, so I finally decide to talk to her, but one of my "friends" has already set up plans for the both of them, and then this "friend" decides that it would be in both our best interests to stop being friends. I inderstand that he made the first move, but then he no longer wants to be friends? This little "friend" of mine then becomes an overprotective primitive, threatens to attack me, and has no time for other matters. Thankfully this occurred most often when I was only in the 4th and 5th grade, and since then I have learned not to go out and make friends, but to rather let them come to me. There have been other instances dealing with betrayal, but I feel I have communicated the point accross.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010DigitalBoy Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Hm... up until about 10 months ago every group of friends I ever had told me they hated me consitently. I don't think that's betrayal though... just ****** up. I mean I've had friends who don't hate me, but many, many more who do. I think vishualkay was right about the real meaning of betrayal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Toboe Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 [QUOTE=visualkei]By the way, wolf, I was quite succint in my post. So I'd like to say that I feel bad for you. When I was in 4th grade I was an overachiever and the teacher's pet, and by mid school year, all the girls in the class (I'm a girl btw) decided to form an anti-visualkei alliance and not be my friend. Even girls that were my closest friends one day completely began ignoring me. Well, you'll make new friends, and I don't know what to say except that I think you'll learn from this, and probably become a better person and a better friend because of it.[/QUOTE] Thanx, uh and I'm a girl too. :animeswea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatanaViolet Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 [QUOTE=Tical]Hm... up until about 10 months ago every group of friends I ever had told me they hated me consitently. I don't think that's betrayal though... just ****** up. I mean I've had friends who don't hate me, but many, many more who do. I think vishualkay was right about the real meaning of betrayal though.[/QUOTE] I had the same problem. I've been through many groups of "friends", some people whom I could actually call friends, but the others were just... fake friends. You know the kind, they're nice to you to your face but either make it really obvious the don't give a whoohah about what your saying or they just turn around and talk about you behind your back, or both. It's not exactly betrayal, but in a sence it is, because when you have friends you trust that they like you and you like them, but if they're being fake friends, they're just deceiving you and making you look like a fool. That's why now I don't really have many friends, and as Derald said (more or less) it can be a lonely existence. The people that I actually can call friends are all living elsewhere. And where I am now, betrayals in the past have left me being very cautious about peoples intentions about befriending me. It's a learning experience though, you learn from your betrayals. Who to trust, who not to trust, what to look for in people you meet, what to avoid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Toboe Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 I was told by one of my other friends lately that my two friends had told her about it. She was told a loooooooooooooooong while ago and never told me. So I guess they were talking about me to other people, but it took them till the end of the school year to tell me? Is this betral or abandonment agian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenshin DX Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 [COLOR=DarkGreen]No betrayal is when your best friend shoots you 6 times and knocks you out of a 60 storie building glass elevator.Thats betrayal . What your going throguh is somewhat ofbeing betrayed. You trusted these people and now you find out they never really liked you. But you dont need them your strong and independant.They probaly werent your friends to begin with.Dont feel abadoned you really shouldnt.You dont need backstabbers in your life.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Flasher Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 [COLOR=Sienna]My experiance with betrayal is rather limited. I don't think the reason for this is very deep; in fact it's rather simple. I don't care what people think. As such, when someone who I considered at some point to be what we call a friend tells me that he (And it's always a he... women in my area of the personality of plywood) doesn't like me, it doesn't bother me. I've had maybe 2 or 3 consistent friends, and a bunch of people I say "Hey, how's it going" to if I meet them in the hall. That's the way I like it. That way there's almost no chance for betrayal, right? And since I don't have any secrets to keep than I can't be betrayed that way either. Really, I'd be just as happy without any friends, so I don't consider it betrayal if they just up and leave.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stargirl Washu Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 My dad betrayed my mum. He cheated her outta: Money Love A decent Home Her Trust Not only did he cheat on my mum but he cheated on me. [I]His daughter[/I]. My brothers. [I]His Sons[/I]. Betrayal can hurt more than one person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liveinmybubble Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Sorry that you feel betrayed, and yes it is betrayel but atleast they told you they could have just kept avoiding you so by them telling you it shows that they respected you. Be happy I'm sure you'll get more frineds maybe even better. Hey I'll be your frined! :catgirl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Darkangel Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Betrayal...abandonment...hn...my advice is "get over it", friends come and go as everyone knows. You'll find some better ones, people always do. As life goes on you soon find out who your true friends are...and most of the time its the ones you least expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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