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[b]Participants[/b]: White, Boo

[b]Date Due[/b]: June 1st

[b]Handicap Set[/b]:

* [strike]Dimensions: 500px by 500 px[/strike]
* [strike]Limited palette[/strike]
* [color=red][NEW!][/color] 125 px (width) by 500px (length)
* [color=red][NEW!] [/color] Limited font set: Century Gothic and Arial Narrow.
* [color=red][NEW!] [/color] Limited palette: white, black, 50% gray (#888888). Colors in between are not allowed.
* [color=red][NEW!] [/color] Ban on transparent pixels

[b]Important Reminders[/b]:

- Participants have [color=red]three days[/color] from now to create your and post your pieces. (June 1st, 2006)
-After the deadline, all members other than the partcipants are allowed to vote. Voting period lasts for [color=red]five days[/color].
-Voters must post a paragraph of [color=red]at least three sentences[/color] about the entry they?re going to vote for, and at least [color=red]one sentence[/color] of constructive criticism for the other entry.

Good luck to both you. :)[/color]
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[size=1]Hmm, you can't fade since that wouldn't be black, white or 50% gray anymore, I think. The colour sort of changes when it fades. ¬_¬'

And I must say you did one hell of a good job to make this round as annoying as possible. My piece will be really bad, I'm hope you're happy with yourselves ;-; *sobs in a corner*[/size]
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[quote name='White][color=#555555][FONT=Tahoma]Does this include animations? Like my fading leaf?[/FONT'][/COLOR][/quote]

[color=dimgray] I've sent Delta a PM to get specifics, but I'll advise you not to use animation.[/color]
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What if an animation doesn't have any "fading" involved? Because I can always just switch from one frame directly to another~

Also~ Transparent frames meaning we can't have any GIFs that let you see through them in some sections? Or layers with colours that are semi-transparent? ...or are we supposed to work with only one layer...

One more question~ Just like we didn't have to use all the colours last time, I'm assuming we don't have to use both, or any fonts this time, right? The only restriction is that if we want to use fonts it has to be from the selection?

I would've asked all this in my thread, but since I'm already posting here...

Heck, I move that we start asking questions in the HB thread [[b][url=http://otakuboards.com/showthread.php?t=5333]Link[/url][/b]] instead of the Battle Threads. Just to keep it clean. Heh~ though that's obviously not my call.

-r2
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[QUOTE=r2vq]What if an animation doesn't have any "fading" involved? Because I can always just switch from one frame directly to another~

Also~ Transparent frames meaning we can't have any GIFs that let you see through them in some sections? Or layers with colours that are semi-transparent? ...or are we supposed to work with only one layer...

One more question~ Just like we didn't have to use all the colours last time, I'm assuming we don't have to use both, or any fonts this time, right? The only restriction is that if we want to use fonts it has to be from the selection?

I would've asked all this in my thread, but since I'm already posting here...

Heck, I move that we start asking questions in the HB thread [[b][url=http://otakuboards.com/showthread.php?t=5333]Link[/url][/b]] instead of the Battle Threads. Just to keep it clean. Heh~ though that's obviously not my call.

-r2[/QUOTE]

[color=dimgray] I can't really much of anything, since I'm only a presider, but you can PM Delta if you want to go through with your idea of having questions in the original [HB!] thread.

Yes, basic switch-frame animation should be fine since it doesn't have anything to do with transparant pixels.

Technically, one layer only. Semi-transparent would go against the color resctrictions.

And yes, the only restriction pertaining to your third question is that if you want to use fonts it has to be from the selection.[/color]
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[color=#555555][FONT=Tahoma]You know what? Once you make something that's [i]so[/i] simple, it's really hard to improve without start over from scratch. Anyway, this is the final result of hours of nit-picking about little text placing and such.

[center][img]http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4701/round25zo.jpg[/img][/center]

This was a fun piece to make. I can't wait to see the others![/FONT][/COLOR]
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[size=1]Okay, your brush will probably pwn my image. ¬¬'

I really made a lot of different stuff before this one. First tons of stuff with no anti-aliasing.

Here t'is:

[center][b]Clockwork[/b]

[IMG]http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/7124/invert27nh.png[/img][/center]

It was partly influenced by the Chaplin movie [i]Modern Times[/i]. The arrows were especially there to add some more... something in it. Silly round, really <<'[/size]
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[color=#555555][FONT=Tahoma]Oh my. This is going to be neck and neck, me thinks.

I'd just like to say that the words "having no colour" appear to have a glow because I put a 1 pixel border around them entirely in #888888 (gray).

Nice job, Boo. This will be very close.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[color=dimgray] [color=red]Presider Note[/color]

Woah, woah. Voting is off-limits until [b]after the deadline on June 1st[/b]. Dagger and silver_blade: your votes [b]will not[/b] be counted in the final count. If you wish to have a counted vote, delete your original posts and post again after June 1st.[/color]
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[QUOTE=White][color=#555555][FONT=Tahoma]having no colour really makes you appreciate it more
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[size=1][color=royalblue]Amen to that. >>;;

Anybody participating in this round - and really, any person who makes graphics - knows just how much of a pain in the buttox this was. Three colors - white, grey, and black - are the only ones you can work with. Yikes.

[b]White:[/b] Hehe, I can't help but crack up with that quote. xD It's almost like the catchphrase for all participants of this round.
I like the leaf brush and how well it ends up blending into the black background. I also like the clean-cut and positioning of the font.
There are just two things I'm not too hot about: The brush does seem a little overdone, especially with the bottom white and how it seems to be mutating into jagged paper pieces. It'll give you a nasty papercut. ><;;
Also, I don't really like the second set of text. After the smoothness of the first set, the second set just seems hastily tacked on. Though it's just a minor complaint, and I understand the design aspect.

[b]Boo:[/b] "Clockwork" was the name of the commencement piece for my retiring middle school band director, so when I saw that, I couldn't help but smile.
So you did use the gears! I guess after your crack pandas, your mind settled down. XD So this is cool.
It's a great display of positive and negative space, and I'm particuarlly fond of how there is no grey used. It gives the image a very clean-cut and crisp appearance.
Unlike silver_blade, I like the arrows, for without them the gears would seem a little empty.
What I'm not liking too much is two little things, really. The bottom two gears are a little smushed together, since they don't have the white line between the two gears like the others. Also, it's apparently a "good" thing to have odd numbers of objects in a piece instead of evens. I don't know WHY, apparently it just IS.

Dude, did you know that there's a DaVinci Code video game? Moof.

*proceeds to be attacked by wild pandas* Alright, alright! This was a gratingly hard decision, and I had to stare at the two pieces for a long, LONG time before really getting a feel. And even after THAT, I can't decide.
I'm gonna say [b]Boo[/b]. Now go away before I change my mind! o.o[/color][/size]
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Hm, yeah, this was a tough choice. I'm going for [b]Boo[/b], though, because I really love the simplicity of the image. It sort of seems as if it shouldn't be balanced, and yet it's not unbalanced. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the white space works, and I love how "Clockwork" looks squeezed (and yet, uh, not squeezed... I'm not very eloquent today).

White, I liked your piece a lot too, but I think you overdid it a bit with the leaves. If you had cut down on the white leaves a little, it would leave a subtler impression on the person looking at it.

~Dagger~
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Sorry for the early vote. First off, I admire anyone who can do art on the computer, and every Handicap Battles participant does good work. Now then...

I liked both pieces, but my vote is for [B]White[/B]. I love the text you put in your piece (the actual message, not the font face). The gray pixel outlines do make it seem to glow, so that shows good ingenuity within the limitations you had to work in. I love the leaf motif for its natural simplicity, and the gray leaves right under the text are clear against the black font. Like Delta, though, I think you should have cut down on the white leaves. They make it look too jumbled.

Boo, your work is clear cut without too much going on. I like the way the "C" in "Clockwork" is slightly cut off. However, the arrows distract me when I look at it. I do not think the piece needed them. A gray or white outline inside the gears would have looked better in my opinion.
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[COLOR=SeaGreen][B]White:[/B] What I like best about your piece is how clean and simple it looks. I also like how you maintained the integrity of the inner white border around the whole piece. The thing I don?t care for is the white leaves. They look nice, there?s just too many of them.

[B]Boo: [/B]What I like best about your piece is the arrows on the cogs of the clockwork. I also like how you have the word clockwork looking a bit squeezed along with the clockwork on the bottom of the piece. What I don?t care for is that the cogs in the middle are not squeezed together? It just looks slightly off.

Anyway, both pieces are nicely done considering the restrictions that were put on this round. In the end I vote for [B]White[/B] as I like the idea of colorless leaves. ^_^[/COLOR]
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[size=1]I'm voting for [b]Boo.[/b]

White, your piece felt cluttered the moment I looked at it. The unaltered, pre-made brush makes the image rather bottom-heavy and unbalanced. I also think your subtext feels awkward - it's two lines long, one of which is longer than the other, and furthermore, the main text doesn't really work well either.

Boo, I absolutely loved the gears and arrows idea. At first I didn't really like the arrows, but they definitely grew on me... it now occurs to me they're sort of directionals to the text, leading you upward. Once you get to the cut-off text (another element I was hesistant towards at first), you really get the full effect. Great job on this one.[/size]
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[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=#333333][SIZE=1][b]White[/b]: I really love the white leaves, I don't know why people say it looks cluttered when I think it has really brought life to the piece. I love how the text goes from larger to bottom almost as if it's fading really seems to suit the slogan well. I also loved the black fading into white and how you used the gray as the shadow of the leaves. The only thing that I could critize about this pieces was with what retribution had stated, that some lines of the text make it look odd. Otherwise, I love it.

[b]Boo[/b]: I liked your piece as well because it seemed simple and the black clocks at the bottom really made the white background stand out. The arrows within the clocks I especially liked because it made it creative. However, much of this piece seemd too simple and plain for my tastes, and I didn't really get much from the slogan.

Therefore my vote goes to....[b]White[/b]!
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[COLOR=Sienna][B]White:[/B] First of all I like the simple look to your piece, the words, where everything was placed and border just all come together. The leaves are a nice touch since leaves to me are anything but colorless. The only thing I don?t care for is the size of the smaller text. It?s probably my screen but it needs to be a little bit bigger to show up better.

[B]Boo:[/B] I like the simple look to your piece as well. I like how the word Clockwork is hedged in and the cogs of the clockwork look nice as well. The arrows are a nice touch as they catch your eye and it?s only natural to follow them and then up to the top. The only thing I don?t like is that there?s a lot of white space between the cogs and the top.

For this round I vote for [B]White[/B].[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1][FONT=Tahoma]Lyk3 0^^G... my vote goes over to [B]White[/B].

[B]Boo[/B]- I really liked your piece because it looked as if you really enjoyed making it (so I'm guessing... o.o; ) The cogwheels and arrows really go together with the black and white. The thing that really bothers me (as I've heard before, I think) is how the cogwheels aren't really pressed together... it looks as if they're all about to fall. XD And the text that you used works for your picture, but it just seems so... bland, I guess. I don't know because if you had added more, it would look a bit cluttered. But, hey.. awesome job, man. =D

[B]White[/B]- Ahh... the simpleness that is called White's Leaves. I belive you used this in your Ad, no? Anywho, two words I have to say about your piece: loved it. The way you used the leaf stamp was simple yet clean. Not too cluttered or squooshed in my case; the quote and text was awesome... the way you made Having No Colour glow whilest the other words are smaller and all non-glowey. And.. the thing I love most about it is how you took full power over your black and white border. The white leaves look like they're materialized from the white and the black keeps it all inside.... if you understand. XD

Anywho... this was a really hard vote to cast, but you both did an awesome job. n.n[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[size=1]I really don't feel like sugarcoating anything in this vote, so if I'm a prick or a pansy, please forgive me.

Let's just get it straight out there, [b]Boo[/b], I feel deserves my vote.

[b]White[/b]: Your text just bothers me. The way you have it arranged is an annoyance to me. Having varying line lengths, and such... just interrupts the simplicity you tried to achieve. As most people said, your use of the white leaves, meant to be the focal point, is too numerous, and just cluttered. The "rare" white leaves would have looked better, just a few scattered.

[b]Boo[/b]: Clockwork. A Clockwork Orange rings a bell when I read that... It is, and will be one of my favorite movies. You scored some points there. The immense black on white contrast, heavy black to heavy white, I don't feel hurts the image. I think it balances out. The gears are beautiful, yet I can see where someone gets the idea of floating. The arrows are another nice touch, draw the viewers eyes to the top. Clockwork is added in there nicely, squished only slightly, to mirror the squished gears. One last thing, I really admire your use of just black and white, and leaving out any grey. Bravo.

Great round to both of you.
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[COLOR=SlateGray][b]White[/b] - Your piece is good, yes. I like the text at the top, "having no colour," but the text after it seems to crowd together and when I read it it seems sort of stilted...as if you pause before saying each new word.

As for the leaves at the bottom, my favorites are the grey leaves, and I think I would have enjoyed your piece more if it had [i]only[/i] been grey leaves. ^^ For the grey leaves are majorly cool.

Very nice piece, still.

[b]Boo[/b] - I don't really like how the edges of the letters are cut of in "Clockwork" for some reason...I think I like to be able to see the full letter. But the gears...ooh, I love them. And I like how the arrows on them make such a contrast.

Another thing I don't quite like is how one of the teeth on the second to bottom gear seems to be touching the bottom gear. But the sheer simplicity of the black and white, as well as the gears, wins out over those two nitpicky details.

And your piece reminds me of illustrations from a book.

Very good! =D

So, I have to say my vote goes to [b]Boo[/b].[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=Purple][SIZE=1][B]Boo[/B] Your piece I really enjoy. I appreciate the arrows in the gears all pointing up and in the same general direction. It sort of guides the eyes up towards the title: Clockwork. Very splendid. The piece isn't too busy either; it's just simple enough. The contrast is also nice and simple. Just plain black and white. I can't really find anything that bothers me with this piece.

[B]White[/B] I enjoy your piece as well, though a few things about it bother me. First, though, I really like leaves design. It's fitting. Whereas normally you would see a wide assortment of color within the many leaves, you now do not have that color. I really like that. However, the text sort of bothers me with the way it is arranged and its size. It's not a bid deal, of course, but it's enough. The contrast is excellent.

This was a very tough decision, as I really like both pieces. In the end though...[B]Boo[/B] gets the vote.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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[size=1]I'll participate :)

[list][*][b]Boo:[/b] This is very excellent. A little plain, but the simplicity gets the point done. I would've liked to see a different font used for "Clockwork," but I do like how the text doesn't fit the graphic and is instead going out of the border slightly. And the arrows are a fun little effect :)
[*][b]White:[/b] Well, I know you used the leaf brush in Photoshop, but that sort of bugs me because you use it in so many of your pieces. It's kind of getting plain. Nevertheless, you used it well this time, so you still get points for it. I like the white border that comes first and the black one that covers it. And lastly, the text is arranged quite well. Looks very unique and organized.[/list]

And my final decision will have to go with [b]Boo[/b] because it makes my brain think... like a clock.[/size]
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[COLOR=RoyalBlue][B]White:[/B] your submission is great in that it appears so simple. The words fit and I like the black border with a white inner border. I like the use of colorless leaves since the idea of leaves without color is very odd so it stands out and makes a good focal point. What I do not like is the size of the font. I?m thinking it would fit better if the larger text was a tad smaller and the smaller text a tad bigger.

[B]Boo:[/B] your submission also is great in how it appears so simple. The word clockwork squeezed in along with the arrows give it a nice flow and feel. The arrows draw your eyes to them and then you naturally find yourself following them. What I don?t care for is that even though the overall piece appears to be squeezed, which looks good, it?s off in the middle since the gears are not touching? I just think it would look better if they all appeared to be touching.

My vote goes to [B]White[/B].[/COLOR]
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