What do you think about "emo"?

[Goodbye, Face]

[quote name='Tical]Oh, looks like I'm ratning a bot here, sorry ^^;; But really, the popularity of emo is starting to annoy me. Especially when [COLOR=DarkSlateBlue]FUSE[/COLOR'] is constantly playing emo videos >_>[/quote]
[font=trebuchet ms]No, Fuse has probably [i]never[/i] played an emo music video. I can't even name a (pure) emo band that made a music video. The closest I'm coming to is Underoath and The Number Twelve Looks Like You, and to me at least, it seems like they never get airtime at all.

Not an attack by any means, just know what emo music is before you say that you see too many emo music videos. >_>;[/font]

[2010DigitalBoy]

[QUOTE=RiflesAtRecess][font=trebuchet ms]No, Fuse has probably [i]never[/i] played an emo music video. I can't even name a (pure) emo band that made a music video. The closest I'm coming to is Underoath and The Number Twelve Looks Like You, and to me at least, it seems like they never get airtime at all.

Not an attack by any means, just know what emo music is before you say that you see too many emo music videos. >_>;[/font][/QUOTE]

I'm speaking of general emo sound. I know that emo is considered a narrow classification, but I don't care. My Chemical Romance is emo in my eyes and you can sue me for breaking your technicalities, but I am speaking of fashiion, not of genre. 'Emo kids' dpnt all listen to 'emo music' or it'd be a helluva lot more played, wouldn't it?

[DeadSeraphim]

[quote name='Tical']I'm speaking of general emo sound. I know that emo is considered a narrow classification, but I don't care. My Chemical Romance is emo in my eyes and you can sue me for breaking your technicalities, but I am speaking of fashiion, not of genre. 'Emo kids' dpnt all listen to 'emo music' or it'd be a helluva lot more played, wouldn't it?[/quote]
[size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]Do they play pop punk on music channels, or real punk? Pop punk, of course. Real punk gets very little airtime on music channels. It's the same with the purist emo and marketted emo, which, really, is pop punk with eyeliner and more suicide threats. Which I'm sure is great if you're into that kind of music, but [i]I am not[/i].

As for the whole fashion, it seems to be just a streamlining of more gothic styles (less lace, more form fitting) so I don't care. The attitude of a lot of self-described emo people gives me the shits though. It's like the purest form of teenage whining, coupled with some angst and just a splash of indie wanker.[/font][/color][/size]

[Sangome]

[FONT=Arial]Many of the "emo" people I know use their label purely for exploitation. I'm not saying all emo's do so, but many I know do. They threaten to kill themsleves to get noticed, and never come through with it.

One of my good friends is "emo". She always threatens to kill herself, and when we get concerned over her, she whines and tells us to lay off. But when we don't do a thing, she starts to whine and say how none of us care. I swear, I love her to death, but sometimes... :bash:

So, essentially, the whole emo thing turns me off. I'm sorry to anyone who professes to be "emo", but that's how I feel. Heck, I consider labeling to be dumb to begin with. But, that's another story.[/FONT]

[Anakoni Stark]

I honestly think that emo is, a bandwagon type of thing, it's just a fad.

that almost everyone I know has been sucked into.

I mean, they should really like they starting enviorment, middle class, semi rich white kids.

big house

spare house down the street

fast cars

....they get into the schools that are nearly inpossible to get into.

...and what do they do?

wear tight girl pants, a scarf, big black rimmed glasses, and whine how their lives suck, albeit they have a good income status.

how is it done?

strum three strings and one chord for two minutes, and squeal about how [B][I] their [/B][/I] lives suck, to me it doesnt seem they watch the news.

God, I hope people will stop this plauge, before it screws mankind over. I'm sick of hearing: "I'm going to cut myself to get Leon to notice me, so we can go to the dance together."

Yeah sure, [B][I] some [/B][/I] emo music is ok [I.E. Fall Out Boy / Senses Fail] but most of it is very difficult to listen to.

this trend will grow old. then we can resume as normal.

- Leon

[Boo]

[size=1]Wait a second, let me try to say something semi-wise... Okay, I'm ready, here goes.

Music is music, people shouldn't make music to fit a label. Clothing is clothing, people shouldn't wear clothing to fit a label. You are you, you shouldn't change yourself to fit a label.

Hurrah. Really, I people who put labels on theirselves are lamers. Especially if the label is based on fashion and/or music.

[b]Fact:[/b] Emo's do that.

[i]Sidenote:[/i] Also annoying people are emos that say they're not emo and make silly youtube videos about how stupid emos are.

[i]Sidenote2:[/i] I love labelling other people though.[/size]

[Sara]

[QUOTE=Leon Fury]I mean, they should really like they starting enviorment, middle class, semi rich white kids....big house...spare house down the street...fast cars

....they get into the schools that are nearly inpossible to get into.

...and what do they do?

wear tight girl pants, a scarf, big black rimmed glasses, and whine how their lives suck, albeit they have a good income status.[/QUOTE][color=#b0000b][size=1]People are entitled to wear whatever clothes they like. I personally dig the glasses. =]

On a more serious note, depression doesn't only affect those in the lower class income bracket. I had some pretty dark days in high school, and I felt all the more miserable because by all rights--as a middle class white girl going to a private school--[i]I had nothing to complain about[/i]. I knew that, and not only did it not change the fact that I was depressed, it made me feel worse about myself. Not good times.

No, you shouldn't wallow in depression, but people do that regardless of the music they listen to. If the emo music trend reminds kids with problems [i]that they are not the only ones[/i] who are having a rough time, I think that's [b]a Good Thing[/b]. "This band is the only group of people who understand how I feel" is a step up from "No one in the world knows what I am going through," and finding people--via music interests or fashion sense--who feel the way you do is what growing up (and living) is all about.[/color][/size]

[Shane12_01]

Idk if I could really add to much of what has been said, but I'll try...

I think emos are a trend and are wanna be goths. Emos dont scare me, but goths do and the reason is that I find that emos do it for attention, but goths do it for fun. By that I mean cut them selves and bleed (at least the hard core ones). Another thing is the "artificial," depression. The emos I see around where I live think ther're depressed, and really dont know what it is to lose something, or a real bad day. Not that I'm saying it never happens, its just that when I hear about it; its just unneeded drama that they put THEMSELVES through, or i could be over exagerating. It wouldent be the first time.

[Boo]

[quote name='Sara][color=#b0000b][size=1]and finding people--via music interests or fashion sense--who feel the way you do is what growing up (and living) is all about.[/color'][/size][/quote]

[size=1]Actually, I think it is about self-development, as an individual. Putting yourself in one corner with a bunch of quasi-depressed children does not really help improve that.[/size]

[Shi no Tenshi]

[QUOTE=taperson]I guess the title is self-explanatory. What do you think about those kids with the following description?:
- Girl pants. TIGHT girl pants (**shudder**)
- Black make-up
- "No one understands me"
- Hair in face, covering one eye
- obsessed with taking pictures of themselves
- the color BLACK.
- etc. you know what i'm talking about.


[COLOR=Red]edit ---

do you believe they fit that description? is it just a fashion trend or is it feelings? are you "emo"? etc...[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Yeah that seems about it.

Can also be applicable to gay men (well most of my gay male friends anyway excluding the make up)...

I don't really care. There were some people at uni who sort of followed the trend for emo music, but they were cool. Not exactly suicidal or 'misunderstood'. Maybe I'm too old for the scene ):

[Fasteriskhead]

Man, I feel like I've read some of the more recent posts here like two or three times already. Might I ask the community to make a good faith effort at skimming the rest of the thread before adding anything themselves?

Interestingly, on the anime front: Saya from Blood+ (the Blood the Last Vampire TV adaption, still airing in Japan at the moment) seems to have adapted the emo 'do, that hairstyle wherein most of the sides and back have been cut fairly short while the bangs fall forward several inches over the face (ideally obscuring one eye). This change has also been accompanied by a new, rather cavalier "HRRR GRRR I WILL FIGHT EVIL AND DO IT ALL ALONE (BECAUSE ALL I DO IS GET OTHERS HURT) :mad:" kind of attitude. I find this intriguing: in character designers' minds, the emo 'do has apparently become associated with self-righteous angst. Who knew?

[Sara]

[quote name='Boo][size=1']Actually, I think it is about self-development, as an individual. Putting yourself in one corner with a bunch of quasi-depressed children does not really help improve that.[/size][/quote][color=#b0000b][size=1]I thought about editing that as soon as the post went up, but I didn't think anyone would call me on it. Darnit, Boo.

I'm not saying that it's a good thing to "put yourself in a corner" or to find that you "want" to be depressed in order to fit in. But I [i]do[/i] think it's important that people have something to hang on to, and a lot of people aren't strong enough to strike out on their own?much less, strong enough to do that as a young teen. Obviously, ideally you'd stick things out and learn a lot about yourself in the process, but getting the will to do that takes time.

And in the mean time, I am much happier with the idea of a dozen kids wearing tight pants and eyeliner getting through high school by angsting about their lives as a group, than I am with the possible alternative of at least one of those dozen kids, alone, being convinced that his life is hopeless, no one understands, and that he really [i]should[/i] kill himself.

I guess my point is this: Depression is real, and it affects a lot of high schoolers. Suicide is also real and, sadly, [i]also[/i] affects a lot of high schoolers. I think that kids who feel they belong to something--even an angst-ridden music and fashion trend--are less likely to actually pull the trigger, take the pills, or drive off the road.[/size][/color]

[Mewprincess]

[COLOR=RoyalBlue]oooo emo....my type of subject! :animeswea

Mostly, u just stay in your room, or at least in a dark corner, writing a poem like:

"Sometimes I wish
I could just curl up
And die quietly
In a dark
Invisible corner
Where voices of the past
Are drown out
Inside my aching heart."

Yes, I really wrote that...NO I'M NOT EMO!! (that's a lie...i'm kinda emo...) [/COLOR]

[Goodbye, Face]

[font=trebuchet ms][url="http://www.fourfa.com/"]Linklinklink.[/url]

I tracked down basically a boundless guide to what emo really is, for all you lamers out there. So, you know, shut it. Also, if you read more than a few paragraphs of it, you will realise that some of it is meant to be humorous, especially the "emo fashoin tips" page. Have fun with it. I'm tired of seeing a few of these really ignorant posts. :-/[/font]


[b]Shi No Tenshi[/b], read my earlier posts. :)

[Shi no Tenshi]

[QUOTE=RiflesAtRecess][font=trebuchet ms][url="http://www.fourfa.com/"]Linklinklink.[/url]

I tracked down basically a boundless guide to what emo really is, for all you lamers out there. So, you know, shut it. Also, if you read more than a few paragraphs of it, you will realise that some of it is meant to be humorous, especially the "emo fashoin tips" page. Have fun with it. I'm tired of seeing a few of these really ignorant posts. :-/[/font][/QUOTE]


Yano, funnily enough, even though people call themselves emo, or are quite willing to accept being called emo, I always thought it was a genre of music? A genre I'd probably dislike, but music none-the-less.

[Mr. Maul]

[size=1][color=DimGray]It seems as if everyone here has failed to realize that [b]Emo[/b] is just the overall title of the fashion/culture, and there are many sub-cultures underneath the umbrella of this title. Similar to how the word [b]Rock[/b] encompasses many musical genres. It also seems as if most of you skipped straight to the last page to post your response without ever stopping to read anything in between.

[quote name='[/color][/size]Fasteriskhead[size=1][color=DimGray]][/color][/size']Might I ask the community to make a good faith effort at skimming the rest of the thread before adding anything themselves?[/quote] [size=1][color=DimGray]
First off, I am going to be refering to [b]Emo[/b] and all its sub-categories [u][b]strictly in the fashion since of the words[/b][/u]. Now I will be quoting various sources describing the fashions, but I am also going to provide pictures, seeing as how most of the people who respond to this thread don't read what has been said.

For the most part, what people have been identifying as emo is actually known as [b]Scene[/b], or [b]Hardcore[/b]. Now, I find that it's very difficult to put into words a description of what [b]Scene Kids[/b] look like, or "what they are," but apparently these people have no problems doing so:[/color][/size]

[quote=taperson] - [b][color=Red]Girl pants[/color][/b]. TIGHT girl pants (**shudder**)
- [color=Black][strike]Black[/color][color=Red][color=Black][/strike][/color][/color][b][color=Red] make-up[/color][/b]
- [strike]"No one understands me"[/strike]
- [b][color=Red]Hair in face, covering one eye[/color][/b]
- [color=Black][strike]obsessed with taking pictures of themselves[/strike][/color]
- [strike]the color BLACK.[/strike][/quote] [quote name='Tical Blue][color=Red][b]I duno abput the black[/b], [b]that isn't all that emo[/b][/color]. They usually wear [b][color=Red]blue jeans[/color][/b] with [b][color=Red]white belts[/color][/b]. [b][color=Red]Jackets[/color][/b] often as well with either really [b][color=Red]short or tucked-in shirts[/color][/b]. [color=Red][u][b]Most emo kids aren't as emotional as the music[/b][/u][/color'].[/quote]

[size=1][color=DimGray] One thing they forgot to mention would be piercings, including, but not limited to [b]lip[/b], [b]eyebrow[/b], and [b]labret[/b][/color][/size][size=1][color=DimGray] piercings, and also various types of earrings, most notably [/color][/size][size=1][color=DimGray][b]gauges[/b], or [b]flesh tunnels[/b], although I have seen hip piercings. [b]Tattoos[/b], [b]bandanas[/b], and [b]fingerless gloves[/b] are also very popular.

[img]http://myspace-431.vo.llnwd.net/00321/13/41/321191431_m.jpg[/img] [img]http://myspace-694.vo.llnwd.net/00234/49/65/234005694_m.jpg[/img] [img]http://myspace-443.vo.llnwd.net/00972/34/47/972707443_m.jpg[/img]

The reason I said that I have a hard time putting to words "what exactly scene is" is because there is no exact deffinition of it. The style(s) vary from person to person, region to region. You either know it when you see it, or you don't. I'm just trying to help those who don't by giving them a very general description.[/color][/size]

[quote name='Wikipedia']Commonly seen styles include dark colored hair, dyed either black, red, multi-colored (brown and black, red and purple, etc.), or an unnatural dark hue, males wearing pants tailored for females... and dark make-up on males and females (most notably black eyeliner, although red eyeshadow is becoming increasingly popular). A common accessory for both males and females is glasses with a dark coloured (usually black), thick rim, a style sometimes even worn by persons who do not require corrective eye-wear.[/quote] [size=1][color=DimGray]
[img]http://myspace-936.vo.llnwd.net/00481/63/94/481274936_m.jpg[/img] [img]http://myspace-521.vo.llnwd.net/00906/12/56/906486521_m.jpg[/img] [img]http://myspace-990.vo.llnwd.net/00906/09/99/906379990_m.jpg[/img]

Scene is the most recognized form of emo out there, but there is another form which most people do not realize. This second incarnation of emo has been around long before scene came to the, well, scene. This second style has more of an [b]indie[/b] rock look about it, rather than the "punkish" look of scene, but it still emo, all the same. I'm not going to spend the time describing this look, but rather provide a link to a decent source.

[url="http://www.aldroid.com/emo/#"]http://www.aldroid.com/emo/#[/url]
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[size=1][color=DimGray]They provide numerous examples of this fashion.

[/color][/size][color=#b0000b][size=1][size=2][color=Black][quote=Avenged666fold][/color][/size][/size][/color] Um can you answer my stupid questions?

-Do you use painkillers when you cut yourselves?
-Isn't it hot when you wear all black in the summer?
-I thought emo people wanted to liek not conform to the system is that true?
-Why are your emotions so extreme?
-Uhh since all people have strong emotions at soem tiem does that make everyone at some point?
-What do you call emo people who only wear emo clothes as a fashion statement?
-Do emo people really listen to that yelling stuff?
-Oh and how do you goth chicks look so hot(not temperature wise)?[/quote] [size=1][color=DimGray]
1. [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/showpost.php?p=738804&postcount=39"]Click Here
[/url]2. No.
3. [url="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scene+kids"]Click Here[/url] (Read the second deffinition)
4. Seeing as how this one is unintelligible, I'm just going to move on to the next.
5. Not all of them are "poseurs," due to the fact that "emo" can be defined as either a type of fashion or a musical genre, so if you listen to "emo" music but don't wear "emo" clothes, or vice versa, this does not make you a poseur.
6. It all depends on personal preference. Just as there are numerous emo cultures, there are also numerous genres of emo music, such as emo, screamo, hardcore, post-hardcore, and then onto the more indie emo bands such as Dashboard Confessional and The Postal Service, and also "Pop Emo" bands like Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance.
7. They don't.[/color][/size]

[quote name='Tical Blue][color=Red][b]personality has nothing to do with emo kids[/b][/color]. Its [b][color=Red]100% fashion trend[/color][/b']. Anyone could be emo, they just wanna be in that croud >_>[/quote] [size=1][color=DimGray]For the most part, this is true, although it all started out as a musical movement, but then it sort of branched into the two.[/color][/size]

[quote name='Sara][color=#b0000b][size=1]In general, the people who identify with emo fashion and music are middle-class high schoolers experiencing love and heartbreak for the first time. Are they "veyr suicidal"? I doubt it. Everyone goes through rough times, everyone had moments when they feel left out, and everyone wants to belong to something. They identify with the music, they like the clothes--they aren't all about to kill themselves, any more than the goths of yesteryear were exclusively devil-worshipping psychopaths.[size=2'][color=Black][/quote] [size=1][color=DimGray]

Finally! Someone who understands that there [i]is[/i] an actual difference between [b]Emo[/b] and [b]Goth[/b]. Bravo!

[quote name='Sara][/color][/size][/color][/size][/size][/color][color=#b0000b][size=1] I guess my point is this: Depression is real, and it affects a lot of high schoolers. Suicide is also real and, sadly, [i]also[/i'] affects a lot of high schoolers. I think that kids who feel they belong to something--even an angst-ridden music and fashion trend--are less likely to actually pull the trigger, take the pills, or drive off the road.[/quote] [/size][/color][color=DimGray][size=1]Living in the Midwest, I know PLENTY of "emo" kids, but I have never met a single one that was depressed/suicidal in any way. "Emo" kids are some of the most up-beat and out-going people out there. Just because someone is "emo," doesn't automaticaly mean they are suicidal. That's just stereotyping. Of course, this whole post(thread) could be considered stereotyping. Anyway, I think I've made a big enough point here.

[b]Case closed.[/b]

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[UnknownColor]

[COLOR=Gray]I'm not really sure about all of those "emo" kids out there. Of course it has become a well known label already but I think that it's one of the stupidest out there. I actually think that it's just another little group for them to be in. Everyone now adays are searching for individuality and once they think up something it ends up becoming a trend so it becomes a label.
The whole cutting and wearing tight as hell pants is very.. ODD. I still don't understand what's the whole deal with wearing such things. I have friends that are "emo" or "punk"(which also wear those tight girl pants). I feel like I might offend them and make them go cut themselves because they feel [I]misunderstood[/I].
I'm an emotional girl, but I don't go to drastic measures to show that I am by cutting myself, wearing clothes like that, and having that annoying haircut. I also do not have an obcession with taking pictures.
It's just a scene I guess like any other. Hardcore, goth, punk, emo, grunge, whatever. All it is to those who follow them are their little "pens" to run around together in because they want to feel like they belong. Meh.. well, that's what I come up with anyways. Not to really "hate" on those who are emo, but *cringe* , dudes, stop wearing those tight as fecking hell pants. There are children around!! lol[/COLOR]

[triblackfire]

[font=Verdana][size=2][font=Comic Sans MS][color=darkred]I don't really like emo...not to be mean. Since I live in a small town, everybody practically knows everybody else, and when someone tries to "cut" themselves just to be emo, someone will find out. I agree that it's another for individuality but they don't have to "hurt" themselves to be emo!!!:mad: Well, I'm just saying!:animeshy:[/color][/font] [/size][/font]