Rules That all Daycares/Daycamps/Preschools Should Have

[The Spectacular Professor]

Okay, so I am helping watch some kids at my church for a daycamp. Don't get me wrong, they're cute and all, but some of the things they do that there are NO rules against drive me mad. I want to know what everyone thinks should be a rule that isn't usually a rule, or even a good rule that usually is a rule in childcare facilities.

My example is: NO toys from home! They can play with them later, plus they just get lost (has happend,) stolen (might have happened,) or confiscated (will happen if they don't stop playing with them during activities.)

[Sandy]

Well, I've had a long-ish experience in working at daycare. The Finnish system might differ from yours in many other ways as well, but the kindergartens here actually have rules for almost everything. They might vary slightly between facilities, but here all kindergartens must do an "early upbringing plan" (translated literally) where the staff writes down all the aims, goals, means and rules they are using in their work.

It's good to have common consensus about rules in places like daycare, but everything should not be so strictly regulated. For example, your rule about no toys from home... you base it upon materialism (you list everything that could happen to the [I]toy[/I]!), and forget the educational point-of-view (what pros or cons it has to children). In the kindergartens I worked in they had "bring a toy from home" days, where children had the chance to present their cherished toys to each other and play together with them. The familiar item from home gives the kids feelings of comfort and security while their parents are away, so there is definitely benefits related to them.

If you continue working with kids, you should learn to see things more from [I]their[/I] perspective instead of the all-knowing adult's. The well-being of [I]toys[/I] shouldn't be more important than the well-being of children.

And if the toy gets broken/stolen/taken away, the kid will most likely learn to take better care of his/her belongings.

[DeadSeraphim]

[color=indigo][size=1][font=arial]"No children."[/font][/size][/color]

[The Spectacular Professor]

[QUOTE=Sandy]It's good to have common consensus about rules in places like daycare, but everything should not be so strictly regulated. For example, your rule about no toys from home... you base it upon materialism (you list everything that could happen to the [I]toy[/I]!), and forget the educational point-of-view (what pros or cons it has to children). In the kindergartens I worked in they had "bring a toy from home" days, where children had the chance to present their cherished toys to each other and play together with them. The familiar item from home gives the kids feelings of comfort and security while their parents are away, so there is definitely benefits related to them.

If you continue working with kids, you should learn to see things more from [I]their[/I] perspective instead of the all-knowing adult's. The well-being of [I]toys[/I] shouldn't be more important than the well-being of children.

And if the toy gets broken/stolen/taken away, the kid will most likely learn to take better care of his/her belongings.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input, Sandy. The problem with the toys is that they play with them during the activities and not during free time when it is okay, which is what would prompt someone to remove them. I have to admit that you raised some interesting points though, so if I may:

Aceburner's revised example rule: No playing with toys from home during activity time.

[pooperson]

Coincidence - I am doing the same thing this summer. It's ridiculus what some of these kids do... so my rules?
1 - It's a sidewalk, not a siderun. I say that every single day to these kids, and they STILL don't get it!
2 - NO means NO, so stop asking. I encounter that problem a lot.
3 - Don't talk about eating mice's eyes at the lunch table. That's just sick.
4 - "Clean up" means what it sounds like. No one gets that either.
5 - Basically, just shut up & pay attention please (&thankyou!)

[Sandy]

Those kind of authority problems rise from nowhere else than lazy upbringing. It's apparent that those kids have always gotten their way in everything, and it's their parents' blame.

Spoiling your child does not do him/her even a bit good, it's always bad. Rewards and treats should be given only when deserved, not to make tantrums stop or to get the kid to shut up.

I'm not a parent and with my orientation I most likely won't ever be, but I know these things because I study Social Care. Bringing up children is not a wondrous effort that takes a professional to do, it just takes a whole lot of common sense.

[nomad19]

daycares are there for a reason, to let kids annoy other people for a change...no really they are.

no experience with daycares,daycamps whatsoever but i do take my cousin there on occassion...

well it's a social gathering for small kids, it's a step up forward from being a baby to being a kid... that's a plus really, and also it's like setting a puppy free inside a play-place, it's a place where a kid could be a kid...

well one rule should be enforced

[B]never bring guns to school[/B] (stop them now before it's too late)

[The Spectacular Professor]

[QUOTE=nomad19]
[B]never bring guns to school[/B] (stop them now before it's too late)[/QUOTE]
They kind of enforce that closer to PUBLIC school time, but if you mean squirt guns, then sure. They don't need to be given ideas.

[Sojiro47]

Well, since Ace and I help in the same VBS, I know he'll agree! kid's should not bring toys, food, and squirt guns!! And [B]do not[/B] let them keep their water bottles!!! Bad things happen!!!

[musical_kitten]

[quote name='Sandy']Those kind of authority problems rise from nowhere else than lazy upbringing. It's apparent that those kids have always gotten their way in everything, and it's their parents' blame.[/quote]

I personally hate it when parents spoil their kids, then decide they've had enough of their tantruming and send them off to preschool/daycare/daycamps. It bugs the crap out of me. If your going to spoil your kid, do it and take care of it yourself.

[quote name='Sandy']Rewards and treats should be given only when deserved, not to make tantrums stop or to get the kid to shut up.[/quote]

And see, people don't understand that. They just get a headache, and so they give their kids whatever just to make them shut up. Then the kid knows that all they have to do is throw a tantrum to get whatever they want. Hence the how-to-recognize-a-spoiled-kid thing.

So, in conclusion: Do not spoil your kids and send them to wherever just to let others handle it. Its your kid. Love it like its your kid. Else the relationship will just be rocky when you do decide you want to step in.

And besides, when you let your kids bring toys from home, its just another thing to step on. :animeangr

[Fyxe]

[quote name='DeadSeraphim][color=indigo][size=1][font=arial]"No children."[/font][/size'][/color][/quote]

[size=1][color=slategray]Ah, we think alike.

I'd also make the rule for them not to stick their hands down each other's pants. I remember going to day care and every time we went to take our naps, some guy-child would practically rape me.

I must have been a sexy four-year-old.[/color][/size]

[Ikillion]

[COLOR=#af992f][SIZE=1][FONT=Comic Sans MS][QUOTE=Bláse][size=1][color=slategray]I'd also make the rule for them not to stick their hands down each other's pants. I remember going to day care and every time we went to take our naps, some guy-child would practically rape me.

I must have been a sexy four-year-old.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]
If my mind had ever been raped with by an image that I had pictured in my head, that had to be it, you win my soul. o.O

I know that there must be some ruel that goes along the lines of "If someone is bothering you please tell us and we will take care of it." rule somewhere. I just want to have the adults actually like, take care of it. I remember some time in pre-school I was trying to read a book and this person wouldn't stop bothering me, and even after I said something about it he didn't stop so I ended up stabbing him with a wood-chip.

I really was a violent and destructive little kid I think, I miss those days.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[The Spectacular Professor]

[QUOTE=Bláse][size=1][color=slategray]Ah, we think alike.

I'd also make the rule for them not to stick their hands down each other's pants. I remember going to day care and every time we went to take our naps, some guy-child would practically rape me.

I must have been a sexy four-year-old.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]
I didn't mean the thread to go quite this way! *Gouges out mind's eye* Anyway, I got another one.
If you and someone else end up fighting over an object, I will take and keep it. I wouldn't mind a PSP, or I could give anything teddy bear-like to my 4-year-old niece.

[Sandy]

[QUOTE=Aceburner]
If you and someone else end up fighting over an object, I will take and keep it. I wouldn't mind a PSP, or I could give anything teddy bear-like to my 4-year-old niece.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, that's stealing.

You can confiscate objects, and give them to the kids' parents after the day/camp, but you have no right keeping them to yourself.

I know you're being only half-serious, but if you hate kids and their behaviour as much as you seem to, why do you even work with them? :/

[Momiji Love]

[COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][SIZE=1][FONT=Verdana]Silverwear is not an option.
As in, use it or die.

I learned the hard way.

[QUOTE]I remember some time in pre-school I was trying to read a book and this person wouldn't stop bothering me, and even after I said something about it he didn't stop so I ended up stabbing him with a wood-chip.[/QUOTE]

I think I did something like that. This boy would always bother a friend and I while we played Barbies, so I ended up throwing a Barbie (Of course it was the ugly one) at him.
He left me alone after that.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Sojiro47]

I think every daycare needs a Bully Protection Program, otherwise people like me go back to get the bullies! When I was in Daycare, I was the little boy everyone picked on. Even the girls made fun of me! But I remember their names! I'll find them and I make them beg for forgiveness!!!

[Andy]

[QUOTE=Ikillion][COLOR=#af992f][SIZE=1][FONT=Comic Sans MS]
I know that there must be some ruel that goes along the lines of "If someone is bothering you please tell us and we will take care of it." rule somewhere. I just want to have the adults actually like, take care of it. I remember some time in pre-school I was trying to read a book and this person wouldn't stop bothering me, and even after I said something about it he didn't stop so I ended up stabbing him with a wood-chip.
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:laugh: That made my day right there, anyways I also think that those little brats should keep their hands to they're selves. I remember when I was about 4 or so, and I was trying to play with this pirate ship thing, and that kid kept stealing it. So I did what I should have done, which was go tell the lady that he kept stealing it. Well she just ignored me, so I went and beat the kid up for stealing it :bash: and I was the one who got in trouble. So moral of the day folks, daycares suck.

[The Spectacular Professor]

[QUOTE=Sandy]Seriously, that's stealing.

You can confiscate objects, and give them to the kids' parents after the day/camp, but you have no right keeping them to yourself.

I know you're being only half-serious, but if you hate kids and their behaviour as much as you seem to, why do you even work with them? :/[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I don't hate them, I just hate the way that parents spoil them. Looking back at it now, I wasn't even being [SIZE=3]1/8th[/SIZE]serious. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Sojiro47]

Hey Ace, how many things did we take from the kids? I know there were at least 20 thing that I took from kids.

A lot of parents spoil their kids just to shut them up, but then we have to deal with it! I wish parents would just tell their kids no every now and then. Otherwise, when the kids go to daycare and we tell them no, the kids through fits, and we get headaches!

I love kids, I just hate what the parents do to them!

[The Spectacular Professor]

[quote name='Sojiro47']Hey Ace, how many things did we take from the kids? I know there were at least 20 thing that I took from kids.[/quote]
You gave them back, right? He's joking, everyone! *Calls Sensei Pete on Sojiro* Anyway, it IS pretty annoying when we have to deal with kids with a skewed misconception of the world around them because their parents decide that they'll shut up if they buy them a new puppy that they'll probably kill in a few weeks because they don't know what "responsibility" is because their parents never told them. *pant, pant* Seriously, we should start making some rules for PARENTS.

"Children's brain growth is NOT affected by watching television, according to the latest study by [I]Lazy Parenting Magazine[/I]" -Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live

[Shi no Tenshi]

[quote name='DeadSeraphim][color=indigo][size=1][font=arial]"No children."[/font][/size'][/color][/quote]

Agreed.

I used to work with mentally disabled children. They were intresting. Cutest one had to be the kid with Down's, and the most annoying was a little girl with what seemed like severe ADD (she literally would climb the walls). One kid had Tourrette's, and I don't know why but I find it funny when really little kids swear :rolleyes: Bless him.