Otaku Is A Child Predator's Heaven (PG Thread)

[Shi no Tenshi]

Any place that allows people to interact is susceptible to innapropriate interactions.

In a way, there is a partial blame if a kid is tracked or abused from their ignorance in posting personal information. I'm sure most computer savvy kids have heard of never giving out their details, right? And I'm also sure many parents/teachers know of the dangers on the internet.

I read once a young girl met up with an online person whom she assumed was a boy of her age. Her friends accompanied her, and lo-and-behold the young boy turned out to be a 40-something-year old. But did alarm bells go off? Nope. They remained 'friends' until she was nearly raped (the incident nearly took place when she went to his apartment alone to retrieve a cell phone she had left earlier when she visited with friends). Luckily, he's behind bars.

It makes me angry to think that kids are either not being educated enough or that they are ignoring the education they recieve.

On a side note, I'm not defending predators, neither am I blaming brainless children.

[Japan]

[COLOR=Navy]And what of the people that actually tell you that they are older than 30 after you spoke for them a looooong time. Like a few years. I am not going to meet them.

I do know that MySpace is a breeding ground for that kind of stuff. I get several requests a day from random people wanting to be my friend that I changed the privacy settings.

I get really irritated all the time when someone I do not know IM's me. I stop being a jerk when I find out that it is from Achaea or Otakuboards, but yeah.

I do admit that I have a lot of friends here, but only a handful I have kept close.[/COLOR]

[Corey]

[size=1]So....
Who wants to meet up sometime?[/size]

[Boo]

[size=1]OtakuBoards is of course full of hairy, 40-year old truckdrivers.

And elves.[/size]

[Red]

Pagan - your supposed research seems to extend only to adding a few young girls on myspace and implying them handing over personal details is some form of exploitation or trickery. What were the criteria for judging when someone was "exploitable", for example? How many was "a few"? Why did you not extend any of your research into other areas of the internet, acquiring information by phone or just plain old talking to the child in a park?

If the age-restricted profiles statement is true, how does that make [i]anything[/i] more secure for a child on myspace? It's a knee-jerk reaction to shut technophobic officials and parents up; the ones who are too afraid to educate children about the internet, or learn themseleves in the first place.

Accepting someone as a friend on myspace has all the effect of accusing bran muffins of conspiracy. Yes, you allow whoever it is to view the personal information on the page, but who put it up there? Is it the responsibility of the largest social networking site in the world to check each and every poorly educated child's profile? It is purely the fault of the parents if children include "too much" information, nobody else. They should know what their child is up to on something so uniquely huge yet anonymous.

The same goes for giving information away to strangers, how is this the fault of the website or child? It's physically impossible for the former to check all private communication, and the latter is only acting on what they have learned.

Using a search engine, publically available databases etc. and something so simple as a message board username it's possible acquire far more information about a person than a website like Myspace will tell you - phone numbers, previous & current addresses, friend names, family members, photos, videos, you name it. It's there; along with anything else you've ever done on the internet. And let's not forget that each individual isn't the only one putting information up there - and the 'net itself isn't the only place this information can be acquired from!

Yes, myspace provides a vast network where you can browse through the profiles & pictures of many, many young people. However, the entire internet can be used in this fashion. Myspace just hands you a place to put it all together, make it look pretty & have fun with it, responsibly. It's down to the parent to teach the child (or schools, if they can do it properly, but from experience with government IT education plans in the UK, every kid would be taking candy from bearded hobos) what that last part means, nobody else.

The "problem waiting to happen" is, once again, thousands upon thousands of adults bemoaning the internet for not offering enough "protection" for children, when in reality they're just being far too lazy to do their jobs as parents.

[Retribution]

[QUOTE=Shi no Tenshi]Any place that allows people to interact is susceptible to innapropriate interactions.

In a way, there is a partial blame if a kid is tracked or abused from their ignorance in posting personal information. I'm sure most computer savvy kids have heard of never giving out their details, right? And I'm also sure many parents/teachers know of the dangers on the internet.

I read once a young girl met up with an online person whom she assumed was a boy of her age. Her friends accompanied her, and lo-and-behold the young boy turned out to be a 40-something-year old. But did alarm bells go off? Nope. They remained 'friends' until she was nearly raped (the incident nearly took place when she went to his apartment alone to retrieve a cell phone she had left earlier when she visited with friends). Luckily, he's behind bars.

It makes me angry to think that kids are either not being educated enough or that they are ignoring the education they recieve.

On a side note, I'm not defending predators, neither am I blaming brainless children.[/QUOTE]
[size=1]The thing is, you have to blame the brainless children for getting into a predator's hands. Everyone has heard of that story where some girl met up with some guy and she was raped, killed, and thrown in a river, never to be seen again. I had heard that story when I was seven. I'm certain that this girl knew that child predators existed, and I'm certain that she had heard such stories as well.

You don't need a parent to tell you that when you are a 14-year-old girl, it is a bad idea to go alone to a place where you're going to meet a 40-year-old guy who promised he was 15. I never thought anyone could be that naive.[/size]

[Raiyuu]

[font=trebuchet ms]Children should be allowed to be naive. It's a privilege of childhood. Okay, the world we live in means caution is required, but you can't blame the child for being naive - that is, for [i]being a child[/i]: it's the predator's fault, for being a sexual deviant paedophile. If there was a humane way to deal with people like that, children wouldn't have to exercise such caution online.[/font]

[Sojiro47]

[quote name='Raiyuu][font=trebuchet ms]Children should be allowed to be naive. It's a privilege of childhood. Okay, the world we live in means caution is required, but you can't blame the child for being naive - that is, for [i]being a child[/i']: it's the predator's fault, for being a sexual deviant paedophile. If there was a humane way to deal with people like that, children wouldn't have to exercise such caution online.[/font][/quote]
I'm with Raiyuu on this one.But since they crap-predator's are out there, and chidren should have the right to be naive, perhaps the [B]parents[/B] should be responsible for their kids. You know, web filters from forums and such.

[Fyxe]

[size=1][color=slategray]I also don't think we should be treating this like it's a huge threat to mankind. People get mugged, people get raped. You have a larger probability of having something bad happen to you in your own community. Let's face it, most parents are too protective to let their kids go see people they meet over the internet. And if they do let them, they are more than likely going to travel along with their kids.
And with this whole "stalker internet predator" thing... get Brink home security. Duh.

In any case, yes, these things happen. But too bad. So does every other horrible thing you could imagin.
What a happy world.
I don't feel as if I'll be abducted and raped just because I'm fourteen years old (oops, gave out personal info *le gasp*) and use the internet. And if I do, well then, let's hope those Tai Chi and Tai Kwon Do lessons paid off.

[quote]Originally posted by [B]Corey[/B]
[i]So....
Who wants to meet up sometime?[/i][/quote]

XD

[quote]Originally posted by [B]Boo[/B]
[i]OtakuBoards is of course full of hairy, 40-year old truckdrivers.[/i][/quote]

Wow, like on that movie [B]Joy Ride[/B] or some such like that. Now whenever a trucker waves at me, I tell my mom to rev it.

But, if you are a Wood Elf, that's another story.

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[Kira93]

[QUOTE=Corey][size=1]So....
Who wants to meet up sometime?[/size][/QUOTE]
LOL that just turned a serious thread into a some-what entertaining one :animesmil

[Boo]

[size=1][IMg]http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/946/theobtruckfrontyf0.png[/IMG]

Oh my, I've found one of their trucks.[/size]

[nezzyjean]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Indifference.

You must be joking, blaming the kids for being molested? I?d like to remind you that by the law they are kids and not even legally able to be considered responsible. Predators know that they are young, inexperienced and many of them are masters at manipulating the children to eventually gain their trust. It?s a double standard to tell kids that they aren?t considered mature enough to be an adult until they are 18 and then to turn around and tell them it?s their fault if someone abused them. [/QUOTE]

Now, keep in mind i'm not talking about any random child picked up by deciet on the internet. I'm talking about those girls who put up headlines like "its nice...to be naughty" with pictures of themselves scantily clad on their web pages. You can't say that they just didnt know any better. Behaivior such as that is asking for that kind of attention.

go on myspace and browse around. i can guarantee that 75% of every underage user on there has innapropriate and self degrading things on their sites, AND overexaggerate their age saying they're 20 or older. (my 12 year old neighbor down the street said she was 22 and all the little girls on her friends list had similar ages.) Just look at a few and you'll see my point for blaming them.

SO, if i were to put up pictures of myself dressed like a slut and overexaggerate my age on the internet and put up buddy icons all over my page suggesting sexual innuendos, i'll never get picked up by a child molestor, will I?

That is why in those cases, I shed some blame to them. Its common sense that you don't lie about your age and wear revealing clothes. Its common sense that such things will get you the wrong kind of attention, girls like THAT are asking for it.


Oh, and thanks for the page, I thought that boys were [I]generally[/I] molested by people they know or random predators, not people who find them on the internet.

[James]

[QUOTE=nezzyjean]
SO, if i were to put up pictures of myself dressed like a slut and overexaggerate my age on the internet and put up buddy icons all over my page suggesting sexual innuendos, i'll never get picked up by a child molestor, will I?
[/QUOTE]

[font=arial]In a lot of these cases - whether I've seen them on television or read about them in a newspaper - the situation is often the opposite. Quite often predators will try to make friends with the child and more often than not, that child isn't acting in a "suggestive" way. Moreover, I think child predators by definition are less likely to go after someone who is overexaggerating their age - in those cases, you're probably talking about people who simply think someone is 18 when they really aren't.

So in many cases I think children don't have to actually go out there and do anything specific to encounter something like this. It comes down to bad luck more than anything.

That's why I feel that if children use the 'net, their parents need to set some very clear boundaries about what information they can and can't give out...and in some cases, perhaps software like Net Nanny or whatever might be suitable. I know those things can be too restrictive, but I'm sure parents care more about their kids' safety than their privacy when it comes to stuff like that.[/font]

[Horendithas]

[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][quote name='nezzyjean']Now, keep in mind i'm not talking about any random child picked up by deciet on the internet. I'm talking about those girls who put up headlines like "its nice...to be naughty" with pictures of themselves scantily clad on their web pages. You can't say that they just didnt know any better. Behaivior such as that is asking for that kind of attention.[/quote]I?m not saying that this type of behavior isn?t going to get them in trouble, only that they lack the maturity to make safer choices when putting information about themselves on the internet. Even if it attracts attention, it?s still someone who is considered incapable of making decisions for themselves. [QUOTE=nezzyjean]go on myspace and browse around. i can guarantee that 75% of every underage user on there has innapropriate and self degrading things on their sites, AND overexaggerate their age saying they're 20 or older. (my 12 year old neighbor down the street said she was 22 and all the little girls on her friends list had similar ages.) Just look at a few and you'll see my point for blaming them.

SO, if i were to put up pictures of myself dressed like a slut and overexaggerate my age on the internet and put up buddy icons all over my page suggesting sexual innuendos, i'll never get picked up by a child molestor, will I? [/QUOTE]Actually a lot of predators want children incapable of defending themselves. So if a 13 year old is lying and saying she is 22, for some types of predators, that?s a turn off and they will look elsewhere. It?s one of the reasons that police working to catch online predators will pose as a teenager who is usually 16 or younger. So ironically, lying about your age can actually protect you, especially if you are only 12.[QUOTE=nezzyjean]That is why in those cases, I shed some blame to them. Its common sense that you don't lie about your age and wear revealing clothes. Its common sense that such things will get you the wrong kind of attention, girls like THAT are asking for it.


Oh, and thanks for the page, I thought that boys were [I]generally[/I] molested by people they know or random predators, not people who find them on the internet.[/QUOTE]I already mentioned that kids are not born with the knowledge that doing such things is bad. Common sense differs from religion to race to country and so on. It is not instinctive. If any blame is to be placed, it would have to be on parents or other adult figures for failing to properly educate their children on the dangers. And yes some kids are still going to do it anyway in spite of being told. But they are not asking for it. They do not truly understand what they are asking for. Many of them do it to impress their friends or to appear grown up when they are not. It?s why they are not considered adults and why we have laws about statutory rape. Whether she or he wants it is or is asking for it is irrelevant. And basically, no one deserves to find out the hard way that they were an immature foolish child.

As for the page, you?re welcome. There?s a lot of misconceptions about Internet Predators, which is why I posted the link. ;)[/COLOR]