Superficiality

[The13thMan]

[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]I was actually thinking about that earlier....probably because of this thread, i don't remember. But yeah, it's totally ridiculous.

If a girl wants to be taken seriously for their mind and personality then they shouldn't be too keen on wearing clothing that suggests all she's worth is a cheap *******. I mean...i'd like to say i take all women seriously regardless of their appearance, but that isn't true and i know it. If a girl's dressed like a slut then my initial response will be to treat her accordingly. Though this isn't limited to the female gender by any regards.

If a guy dresses trashy then i'll want to treat him trashy until i learn more about the guy...if it even gets that far. I personally believe it takes a certain amout of self respect to dress descent which is why i generally avoid poorly dressed individuals.

Another thing that bothers me is the "gangsta" look. I get that a lot around here and i just look down on those people. It's such a disgusting look. Eh, what do you guys think?

Later.


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[Adahn]

[font=Verdana][size=2]First of all, I'd rather be clean and smell bad. When I'm dirty, I feel dirty, and it's very hard to become comfortable. I'm afraid that my own comfort comes before making myself appealing to others.[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]When I was young, I got teased enough that I lost any sense of myself being attractive to anyone. Even when someone did show interest, I ignored them, only realizing what I'd done after it was too late to change anything. I was even attracted to some of the girls who showed interest![/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]When I started college, I decided that my paradigm was a result of the schools I went to, and the situations I was forced to endure. Being free of school freed me from my ignorance. Very early into my first term, however, I fell in love with a girl, and I am hers and she is mine to this day. This leads to a pattern of personal interactions that you may find interesting.[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]I recognize myself as someone desirable, now, but I am taken. When I first see someone, I judge them by appearance, just like anyone else. After I do this, however, I dismiss them. There is not a single woman (or man) on this campus that has made any memorable impression on me by looks alone.[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]Despite the asocial nature that might lead people to believe that I am a lifeless automaton, I have developed a personality. Nobody can completely avoid social interactions, and I will explore mine.[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]If someone talks to me, I listen, and I respond. As soon as someone engages me in conversation, they cement themselves into my memory in a way that looks cannot do alone. Subconsciously, I think I push myself away and emanate a feeling of unapproachability, so as soon as someone starts talking to me, I give a thought to their motives. There are three possible reasons that come to mind.[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]1. They sensed my social unease, and for some reason, approached me because of it.[/size][/font]
[font=Verdana][size=2]2. They find me attractive somehow (physically, mentally, not necessarily sexually at all)[/size][/font]
[font=Verdana][size=2]3. They're just a friendly person.[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]Usually, I react favorably to those who approach me, but not always, as this is where I find my superficiality. You know that there are attractive people, average looking people, and ugly people. If someone attractive tries to talk to me, I become defensive, for fear of liking her too much. If someone ugly tries to talk to me, I reply, but I give off a 'vibe' of being put-off. If someone moderately attractive, average looking, or moderately unattractive talks to me, I immediately like them. They don't attract me too much, and they don't appall me too much, so I feel no threat or disgust at being with them. I believe that they approached me for one of the three reasons above, and that makes them a good person in my book. If I weren't superficial, I'd treat everyone the same in those first few interactions.[/size][/font]
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[font=Verdana][size=2]Well, I didn't expect my exploration to lead me here, but when you go looking within yourself, you can't always be sure of what you'll find. I won't burden you with any more talk of myself, for now. I may add on later if something else comes to mind.[/size][/font]

[The13thMan]

[quote name='Adahn][font=Verdana][size=2]First of all, I'd rather be clean and smell bad. When I'm dirty, I feel dirty, and it's very hard to become comfortable. I'm afraid that my own comfort comes before making myself appealing to others.[/size'][/font][/quote]

[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]My question had nothing to do with comfort. I really hate it when people add new dimensions to my question...doing so avoids the question completely. All i know now from that response is that you don't like being uncomfortable.

^L^
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[Ezekiel]

[SIZE=1]Just glancing at the latest replies, and I really have to say I agree with girls being silly and getting offended when they wear pretty provocative clothing. I myself realise the fact that I have larger breasts. There is nothing I can do about this and I also realise that, if I wear certain clothes, it maybe makes them more obvious, not because I want guys to stare at them, but because it simply can't be helped. Because I realise this is a fact, I honestly can't see the point in getting offended if someone gives my chest a passing glance.

However, if I was talking to someone and he constantly stared at my chest throughout the conversation I think I'd have a right to get pissy.

I have this T-Shirt, which reads, "BEWARE! The one-legged space pigeons are plotting our demise!". I wore it out shopping once and this guy, perfectly straight faced, reached out to grab my arm and stop me before asking in a very sincere voice 'I'm sorry, but can I read your shirt?? I found it quite hilarious, and when he saw me later on he was all 'Beware!?

>_> People need to loosen up, heh.[/SIZE]

[Adahn]

[QUOTE=The13thMan][color=darkorange][font=Century Gothic]My question had nothing to do with comfort. I really hate it when people add new dimensions to my question...doing so avoids the question completely. All i know now from that response is that you don't like being uncomfortable.

^L^
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[quote name='The13thMan][font=Century Gothic][color=#ff8c00']Would you rather smell good and be dirty or smell bad and be clean?[/quote][/color][/font]
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[size=2][color=black]So, let me get this straight. You asked a question, and I answered, giving it a reason. This somehow makes it so I...avoided the question? What you should have garnered from my response is that I would rather smell bad and be clean.[/color][/size]
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[size=2]If you don't mind me saying, you are a strange, strange little man.[/size]

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting.

As someone who was overweight for a good portion of their life, I definitely don't fall into the "superficial" category, in fact superficial people are one of the few groups of people I genuine despise in the world purely because they spend so much time on improving what they look like as opposed to who they are on the inside. When it comes to romance for me, I am more than willing to go for a girl who isn't overly attractive or just down right plain if she's got a great personality, I mean really would you rather marry an airhead who'll look divine for ten years and bankrupt you for plastic surgery later in life or a normal girl who you'll continue to love for the same things well after beauty has faded through 30/40 years of marriage ?

I know which I'd choose.[/SIZE]

[quote name='Ezekiel][SIZE=1']As far as the 'personality does not make attractive' argument goes, I really have to disagree. There's this presenter we have over here in the UK; Jeremy Clarkson. Now, he really isn't what you'd call an attractive specimen, however, his personality is simply amazing. I adore the man and, if I was around the age of my late-forties and approached by him in a bar, I'd honestly be swept off my feet. [/SIZE][/quote]

[SIZE=1]*Head hits repeatedly off desk*

Jamie, I really, really don't see how you can adore that pompous jackass. Seriously he's one of the few things I really dislike about Top Gear, that and Richard Hammond's pointlessness.

Maybe it's just jealousy talking.[/SIZE]

[The13thMan]

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[size=2][color=black]So, let me get this straight. You asked a question, and I answered, giving it a reason. This somehow makes it so I...avoided the question? What you should have garnered from my response is that I would rather smell bad and be clean.[/color][/size]
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[size=2]If you don't mind me saying, you are a strange, strange little man.[/size][/QUOTE]
[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]You answered my question and stated your logic being that you'd rather be comfortable than anything else. My response was that comfort was not the point of the question...at all. ^L^

And another thing...i'm often times very comfortable when i'm a little dirty. But that's really irrelevant.

I actually really don't appreciate you calling me strange because i know you meant that to be offensive. Just because my logic and reasoning is way above your head doesn't give you the right to get pissed about it. You're the one that doesn't know how to answer a question. To truly answer a question you must understand the intent behind it. Sure, 2+2=2+2 but the math teacher wanted you to get 4 as the answer. Do you get what i'm saying?

Hehe, i bet you're angry now. We should fight! ^L^

Later.
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[pooperson]

I don't think I'm superficial. I have dated people who are not the most attractive, & most of my friends weigh at least 20 pounds more than I do. I don't really look at looks as that important...
But when it comes to hygiene, I believe that's pretty important. The only time I really don't shower is when...

1 - I have NO TIME at all.

2 - I have a football game to perform at with the marching band.

3 - I have a contest to perform at with the marching band.

or

4 - I have an all-day Saturday practice with the marching band.

God told me to take care of my body, so I do that. I mean, if I had to, YES, I would go a week without a shower. But on any given week, no.

I did a research paper on this a few months ago... I actually sent out surveys asking that question. There are actually quite a few teenagers who would do that...

[Adahn]

[QUOTE=The13thMan][color=darkorange][font=Century Gothic]You answered my question and stated your logic being that you'd rather be comfortable than anything else. My response was that comfort was not the point of the question...at all. ^L^

And another thing...i'm often times very comfortable when i'm a little dirty. But that's really irrelevant.

I actually really don't appreciate you calling me strange because i know you meant that to be offensive. Just because my logic and reasoning is way above your head doesn't give you the right to get pissed about it. You're the one that doesn't know how to answer a question. To truly answer a question you must understand the intent behind it. Sure, 2+2=2+2 but the math teacher wanted you to get 4 as the answer. Do you get what i'm saying?

Hehe, i bet you're angry now. We should fight! ^L^

Later.
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[size=2]Actually, I find it a little difficult to take your implied superiority as offensive. I do become angry when someone pushes my buttons, but you've failed to hit any of them. The feeling you still evince is confusion.[/size]
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[size=2]Sometimes the answer you get isn't what you expect, but that doesn't make the answer incorrect. Since you seem to want to make a big deal out of this, perhaps we should examine your question more closely.[/size]
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[size=2]In the first case, you smell good, but you are dirty. Giving off a nice aroma is a good thing, as it may cause people around you, and yourself, to feel pleasant because of it. When you are dirty, it's safe to assume that you look dirty, too. When I'm dirty, I have greasy hair, dirt under my fingernails, and I'm probably wearing work clothes, which don't look too nice at all, as I work somewhere with a lot of oil. I can counteract the smell with a lot of deodorant and possibly some cologne, but I certainly wouldn't be a pretty picture.[/size]
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[size=2]In the second case, you smell bad, but you are clean. The bad smell could be the result of being sprayed by a skunk or something, as such smells are difficult to remove, even with lots of cleaning. If I'm clean, I'll have nice clothes on, not dirty anywhere, and except for my own smell, I wouldn't be a terrible sight to behold. People might smell me and be grossed out, but I truly think they'd be more adversely affected by my dirty appearance and heavy cologne.[/size]
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[size=2]In the second case, I've done everything I can to rid myself of the smell, and I feel clean. In the first case, I've really let myself go, I feel like crap, and people will look at me and see a piece of crap.[/size]
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[size=2]If this doesn't satisfy you, then please, give me an in depth explanation of your question, its aims, and why only certain responses are acceptable.[/size]
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[size=2]Hmm, a fight isn't quite a fight without fightin' words. Let's see...[/size]
[size=2]Despite what you or anyone else thinks about your new haircut, I think it looks really stupid. Will that suffice?[/size]
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[The13thMan]

[QUOTE=Adahn][size=2]Actually, I find it a little difficult to take your implied superiority as offensive. I do become angry when someone pushes my buttons, but you've failed to hit any of them. The feeling you still evince is confusion.[/size]
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[size=2]Sometimes the answer you get isn't what you expect, but that doesn't make the answer incorrect. Since you seem to want to make a big deal out of this, perhaps we should examine your question more closely.[/size]
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[size=2]In the first case, you smell good, but you are dirty. Giving off a nice aroma is a good thing, as it may cause people around you, and yourself, to feel pleasant because of it. When you are dirty, it's safe to assume that you look dirty, too. When I'm dirty, I have greasy hair, dirt under my fingernails, and I'm probably wearing work clothes, which don't look too nice at all, as I work somewhere with a lot of oil. I can counteract the smell with a lot of deodorant and possibly some cologne, but I certainly wouldn't be a pretty picture.[/size]
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[size=2]In the second case, you smell bad, but you are clean. The bad smell could be the result of being sprayed by a skunk or something, as such smells are difficult to remove, even with lots of cleaning. If I'm clean, I'll have nice clothes on, not dirty anywhere, and except for my own smell, I wouldn't be a terrible sight to behold. People might smell me and be grossed out, but I truly think they'd be more adversely affected by my dirty appearance and heavy cologne.[/size]
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[size=2]In the second case, I've done everything I can to rid myself of the smell, and I feel clean. In the first case, I've really let myself go, I feel like crap, and people will look at me and see a piece of crap.[/size]
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[size=2]If this doesn't satisfy you, then please, give me an in depth explanation of your question, its aims, and why only certain responses are acceptable.[/size]
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[size=2]Hmm, a fight isn't quite a fight without fightin' words. Let's see...[/size]
[size=2]Despite what you or anyone else thinks about your new haircut, I think it looks really stupid. Will that suffice?[/size]
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[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Dem is fightin' words!!! ^L^

Ok, i'll try to make this simple for you. You've over analyzed the question. When i asked the question i didn't imply anything about appearance. And yet you seem so superficial that you cannot overlook appearance in such a simple question. In being dirty you do not necessarily look dirty, you only have the knowledge of your poor hygiene. By being clean you once again don't look clean, you only have the knowledge that you are clean.

As for the smell, you either smell good or bad. In your response you made it seem like the cologne you put on made you smell bad...which is obviously not answsering the question. To smell "good" means that you smell good. Go figure! If you smell good then everybody around you thinks that you smell good. To imply anything other than that would be not to answer my question, instead you'd be answering a shadow of my question and not the real thing.

I don't mind unexpected answers at all, as a matter of fact i love them when they show up. But your answer is unexpected and not even an answer for the question i asked. It is simply an answer to a different question that is barely similar to mine. How do i know you didn't answer "my" question? Well it's simple, i found out by your reason behind it, your justification.

I dunno what else to say... i'm a bit preoccupied too. So i'll end on this note.

Mustaches are for [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][removed by Moderator][/COLOR] and porn stars. ^J^
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[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][SIZE=1][INDENT]The13thMan, you've been a member long enough to know better than to get around the swear filter. I've modified your post for you, but in the future do not do so again. ~indifference[/INDENT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Adahn]

[QUOTE=The13thMan][color=darkorange][font=Century Gothic]Dem is fightin' words!!! ^L^

Ok, i'll try to make this simple for you. You've over analyzed the question. When i asked the question i didn't imply anything about appearance. And yet you seem so superficial that you cannot overlook appearance in such a simple question. In being dirty you do not necessarily look dirty, you only have the knowledge of your poor hygiene. By being clean you once again don't look clean, you only have the knowledge that you are clean.

[i][font=Century Gothic][color=#ff8c00]Would you rather smell good and be dirty or smell bad and be clean?[/i]
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[size=2][color=#000000]You are being a little restrictive in your explanation. It says in there 'to be dirty'. Now, to me the verb 'to be' is much more open to interpretation than you make it out to be. In order for your explanation to be truthful, you would have had to rephrase it. "Would you rather smell good and know you are dirty, or smell bad and know you are clean?" Since you did not do this in the first place, or in any of your explanations, I must say that it only seems you are trying to be...difficult.[/color][/size]
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As for the smell, you either smell good or bad. In your response you made it seem like the cologne you put on made you smell bad...which is obviously not answsering the question. To smell "good" means that you smell good. Go figure! If you smell good then everybody around you thinks that you smell good. To imply anything other than that would be not to answer my question, instead you'd be answering a shadow of my question and not the real thing.
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[size=2][color=#000000]I'm quite enchanted with metaphors, and you will be blessed to receive one. Have you ever smelled something sweet, perhaps a little too sweet, in the air? I have, while driving. As I started to pass something, the smell grew stronger. I looked to my right and saw a garbage truck, and proceeded to gag and force vomit back down my throat. This is an example of a pleasant smell seeming so, but with a look at the source, the effect is far from pleasant. I did indeed answer your question, only I was able to see the entire picture in the smelling good/being dirty duality. You should be able to put at least two pieces together to make a puzzle, I think. If you cannot, I could use a jigsaw and make you a two pieced puzzle you can practice putting together.[/color][/size]

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I don't mind unexpected answers at all, as a matter of fact i love them when they show up. But your answer is unexpected and not even an answer for the question i asked. It is simply an answer to a different question that is barely similar to mine. How do i know you didn't answer "my" question? Well it's simple, i found out by your reason behind it, your justification.
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[size=2][color=#000000]So, if I had simply answered "I would rather smell bad and be clean." without any reasoning or logic to support it, I would have satisfied your conditions for an acceptable answer? You must have been trying to make a joke when you said you liked reason and logic. I get it now! Oh, you are so very clever for going to such lengths to deliver the punch line. I'm sorry I didn't see it earlier.[/color][/size]
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I dunno what else to say... i'm a bit preoccupied too. So i'll end on this note.

Mustaches are for [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][removed by Moderator][/COLOR] and porn stars. ^J^
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[size=2]While I am not a porn star publicly, I do have the skill and stamina of one, and a man who likes girls and finds monkey-faced boys with donkey kong haircuts a little revolting would have a hard time being a homosexual.[/size]
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[size=2]In closing, I will leave you with a couple sayings I saw on t-shirts once (no joke).[/size]
[size=2]"My moustache brings all the girls to the yard." and[/size]
[size=2]"Guns don't kill people, people with moustaches kill people."[/size]
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[size=2]I seriously considered buying both of them.[/size]

[Aaryanna]

[COLOR=SeaGreen]Well like The13thMan said in the very first post I too believe that everyone is a bit superficial. In fact I think a certain level of being superficial is a very healthy thing. We care about having a nice clean appearance or about having a cute hairstyle or about having a clean room or house. It?s not an issue of only caring about how things look, but about caring about yourself enough to feel that taking care of yourself is important.

I?m going to use my dog as an example here. I get her bathed and properly dried at least twice a month. Some people, who do not understand the needs of a Bichon, assume that I?m obsessed with how she looks. And though part of me does like having her looking cute and fluffy all the time, the other part knows that Bichon?s are prone to skin infections and the easiest way to prevent them is to keep their skin clean. So it?s a level of superficiality that is a combination of liking the appearance and it being done to ensure the proper care of my dog.

So I have no problem admitting that on some level I?m superficial. The only time I feel it?s a problem is when a person becomes so obsessed with appearance that they neglect other aspects of their life. They won?t associate with someone who they think wears ugly clothing or doesn?t have perfect looking hair. Or they make fun of people who are overweight even if they are only slightly pudgy. Like the time someone made fun of me because my mom is a little overweight. And by little I mean about twenty pounds. And I?m superficial enough that such a statement offended me and I got grounded for beating them up for insulting my mom. >_< Though I don?t regret it.

As for how people smell. On some level I do care and on some I don?t. Again I?m going to use my dog as an example. On some level she smells like a dog, even when she is clean. And since it?s normal I?ve adapted to it and it doesn?t bother me. One of my friends has severe arthritis and one of the medicines she uses has to be applied to the skin. It smells a little funny, but again it?s something I?ve gotten use to and it doesn?t bother me.

If my superficiality was an issue I would not be able to adapt to things that are a little different as I would be obsessed with things looking and smelling perfect. And by perfect I mean at that point what ever I had determined was my idea of being perfect. o_O

So yeah I?m superficial, but I don?t think my level of being that way is unhealthy. ^_~[/COLOR]

[Sara]

[color=#b0000b][size=1]In my vernacular, and in the common use of people around me, "superficial" (in this context) means "caring [i]primarily or only[/i] about that which is on the surface." So it's not even [i]possible[/i] to be "a little bit superficial," and I think that while the idea behind the question is legit for discussion, the phrasing is not well put.

I also think that a different wording of the original question would have resulted in clearer replies from several people in this thread.

[quote name='Aaryanna][COLOR=SeaGreen]So I have no problem admitting that [b]on some level I?m superficial[/b'].[/COLOR][/quote]Aaryaanna, I love you, but you have no idea how much that made me giggle. =]

[QUOTE=The13thMan][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]My question had nothing to do with comfort. I really hate it when people add new dimensions to my question...doing so avoids the question completely. All i know now from that response is that you don't like being uncomfortable.
[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]What you should have learned from his response is that he cares about other things more than he does about his appearance (olfactory or otherwise) to others. Having read your further responses on the topic, I am still unsure as to how that does not answer your question.

You also left the nature of the "bad smell" open to interpretation. If that was not your intent, perhaps you should have clarified [i]exactly[/i] what you meant at the beginning of the thread, rather than scolding those who interpreted it differently than you had originally (and privately) intended.[/size][/color]

[Aaryanna]

[COLOR=SeaGreen][quote name='Sara][color=#b0000b][size=1]In my vernacular, and in the common use of people around me, "superficial" (in this context) means "caring [i]primarily or only[/i] about that which is on the surface." So it's not even [i]possible[/i] to be "a little bit superficial," and I think that while the idea behind the question is legit for discussion, the phrasing is not well put.[/size][/color][/QUOTE]Well since I looked up the meaning of the word in a dictionary and got this: [I]Superficial-implies a concern only with surface aspects or obvious features.[/I] And since I do care about how things on the surface look, I assumed it meant I was a little superficial. o_O But if I?m not understanding it correctly or as to what context it is meant to be used in, then it would seem that I am not superficial after all. I think perhaps I?ll pester my mom later as it seems I don?t completely understand what the word means. ^_~[QUOTE=Sara][color=#b0000b][size=1]Aaryaanna, I love you, but you have no idea how much that made me giggle. =][/size'][/color][/quote]Well even though you giggled at me?I just have to do this, you know that right? ? *HUG!* ^_~ [/COLOR]

[SunfallE]

[COLOR=RoyalBlue]Superficial to me means so many different things. To appearances to thoughts and emotions. So based on that I would say that I am not superficial. I?ve certainly run into people who are and honestly I tend to find them annoying as often it?s like they have nothing between their ears but hot air. There?s no depth or originality to their discussions or to any type of activity you do with them.

If we are going from the aspect Aaryanna was thinking. Then yeah I do care some about superficial stuff as I like things to be clean and I prefer a boyfriend who knows what the word deodorant means. Honestly there is nothing that turns off lust quicker than getting close to your boyfriend only to realize that he stinks. But beyond that it?s not something I really think about.[/COLOR]

[The13thMan]

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[size=2][color=#000000]You are being a little restrictive in your explanation. It says in there 'to be dirty'. Now, to me the verb 'to be' is much more open to interpretation than you make it out to be. In order for your explanation to be truthful, you would have had to rephrase it. "Would you rather smell good and know you are dirty, or smell bad and know you are clean?" Since you did not do this in the first place, or in any of your explanations, I must say that it only seems you are trying to be...difficult.[/color][/size]
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[size=2][color=#000000]I'm quite enchanted with metaphors, and you will be blessed to receive one. Have you ever smelled something sweet, perhaps a little too sweet, in the air? I have, while driving. As I started to pass something, the smell grew stronger. I looked to my right and saw a garbage truck, and proceeded to gag and force vomit back down my throat. This is an example of a pleasant smell seeming so, but with a look at the source, the effect is far from pleasant. I did indeed answer your question, only I was able to see the entire picture in the smelling good/being dirty duality. You should be able to put at least two pieces together to make a puzzle, I think. If you cannot, I could use a jigsaw and make you a two pieced puzzle you can practice putting together.[/color][/size]

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[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]I'll be honest with ya. I am trying to be difficult. You wanna know why? Eh, it's simply because i like getting into arguments with people. I get enjoyment out of it. Though just because my main reason for arguing with you is for fun doesn't mean that i didn't mean what i said. You still failed to answer my true question, my core question, the form of my question. You've answered the modified version of it, if my question was the form of the color blue then you answered the blueish green version. Of course, i've said this before...though it seems you still haven't figured that out.

As for the garbage truck thing, it seems that you truly are superficial. If it really did smell good then you shouldn't have cared what the source of the smell was. Being that you gagged purely on the thought of what you were actually smelling was unpleasant proves your superficiality. As for myself, i would have gotten a good laugh out of it, but i wouldn't have been disgusted. If it smells good, then it smells good. If it smells good, then i believe it smells good and therefore like the smell. If an ugly[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue] [removed by Moderator][/COLOR] b-a-s-t-a-r-d smelt good then i'd say, "hey, you smell good!" That's all there is to it.

[QUOTE=Adahn]
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[size=2][color=#000000]So, if I had simply answered "I would rather smell bad and be clean." without any reasoning or logic to support it, I would have satisfied your conditions for an acceptable answer? You must have been trying to make a joke when you said you liked reason and logic. I get it now! Oh, you are so very clever for going to such lengths to deliver the punch line. I'm sorry I didn't see it earlier.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]

Yup, if you had not given a reason then i would have been quite content with your answer. But to say that i prefer people not to give me a reason is completely the opposite of how i feel. I'm simply saying that your explanation was total [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][removed by Moderator][/COLOR]. There are plenty of good explanations out there. Haha...let me show you what you did.

Well...i'd rather smell bad and be clean! You wanna know why? Ok...it's because pirates like to rape and pillage people that are dirty and smell clean. And i'm really flippin' scared of pirates. Once when i was a kid i was attacked by a pirate...i've never really recovered from it. I can't even watch Pirates of the Carribean without screaming my head off.

That's basically what you did, my friend. You answered the question and gave a explanation that implied that you did not understand the true intent of the question itself.

[QUOTE=Adahn][size=2]While I am not a porn star publicly, I do have the skill and stamina of one, and a man who likes girls and finds monkey-faced boys with donkey kong haircuts a little revolting would have a hard time being a homosexual.[/size]
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[size=2]In closing, I will leave you with a couple sayings I saw on t-shirts once (no joke).[/size]
[size=2]"My moustache brings all the girls to the yard." and[/size]
[size=2]"Guns don't kill people, people with moustaches kill people."[/size]
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[size=2]I seriously considered buying both of them.[/size][/QUOTE]

Hey, nobody's questioning your sexuality there buddy. I don't know why you're being all defensive about it all of a sudden. ^L^ Maybe you're just insecure? Awww, that's cute!

Hahaha, Donkey Kong haircuts? Oh man that's good! Monkey faced too! Ya don't say! ^J^ I loves it when people take out the big guns and show some brass balls. Ok, ok, it's my turn now.

You're a dumb doodie head poo poo face! And i'm going to have to guess you're rather ugly from the fact that you did not post a picture of yourself on my other thread. That and you're probably outrageously insecure about your own appearance. I mean c'mon, who the flip still thinks mustaches are sexy nowadays?

I think that if you're going to try to put a person down by insulting his looks you should at least check to see rather the person is insecure about them first. Personally, i think i look damn good and nobody's going to make me think otherwise. Especially all of my female friends that agree with me that i'm hot. Maybe you should try saying i have a small penis or something. Ooo, you could make fun of my pencil or something!
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[QUOTE=Sara]
What you should have learned from his response is that he cares about other things more than he does about his appearance (olfactory or otherwise) to others. Having read your further responses on the topic, I am still unsure as to how that does not answer your question.

You also left the nature of the "bad smell" open to interpretation. If that was not your intent, perhaps you should have clarified exactly what you meant at the beginning of the thread, rather than scolding those who interpreted it differently than you had originally (and privately) intended.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]If you are still unsure as to what i meant then maybe you shouldn't try and tell me what i should be taking away from his question. It just seems to me that if you realize that you're ignorant that you wouldn't try to lecture me. Just a thought.

Actually, there was no scolding involved at first. I wasn't the one that started it. If i remember correctly it was Adahn that delivered the first ugly blow by calling me a strange little man. I dunno, maybe you can go back and look or something.

Why should i be responsible when somebody misinterprets a question i've asked? It's not my fault they can't look at a question and discover why it is being asked. I mean seriously, that's such a basic thing to do when answering a question. If you can't find the original intent for a question then you really shouldn't even make an attempt to answer it. There were plenty of other people who answered my question perfectly fine. I won't say they all did because i haven't read them all. But the few that i have read were fine. Why is it that Adahn cannot figure this out?
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[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][SIZE=1][INDENT]The13thMan, you've been a member long enough to know better than to get around the swear filter. I've modified your post for you, but in the future do not do so again. ~indifference[/INDENT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Adahn]

[QUOTE=The13thMan][color=darkorange][font=Century Gothic]I'll be honest with ya. I am trying to be difficult. You wanna know why? Eh, it's simply because i like getting into arguments with people. I get enjoyment out of it. Though just because my main reason for arguing with you is for fun doesn't mean that i didn't mean what i said. You still failed to answer my true question, my core question, the form of my question. You've answered the modified version of it, if my question was the form of the color blue then you answered the blueish green version. Of course, i've said this before...though it seems you still haven't figured that out.
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[size=2][color=#000000]I don't mind arguments, either. It's strange, though, to have one that spans this many posts without my feeling a hint of anger. Perhaps it's the demure topic of discussion. I suppose my answer to your question doesn't have much to do with superficiality. Perhaps it's because I'm quite inexperienced in practicing it. Most of my life, I've been on the receiving end of superficiality. When I was very young, I had bad eyes, so I had to wear thick glasses. I was also a little socially underdeveloped, and rather intelligent. As a result, I was branded a nerd, a social outcast, and hated. Children can be the epitome of exercising superficiality. Instead of resisting the social standing forced upon me, I accepted it. I had a severely low opinion of myself, and while everyone else was off becoming popular by being idiotic, I focused my energy on school, and became quite smart.[/color][/size]

[size=2][color=#000000]Now, I have a higher opinion of myself. I have a young, beautiful, sexy girlfriend, so she has the most sway over my appearance. I have no need to attract anyone, so the only effort I put into my looks is to be average looking. People still express interest in me, but they won't get even a hint of it in return. I'll give you an idea of how I interact with people.[/color][/size]

[size=2][color=#000000]I'm the one who always speaks up in class. I answer questions with what I think is the correct answer, whether I know I'm right or not. I'm usually right, but sometimes I'm wrong, though it doesn't bother me in the least. I also ask questions whenever the urge rises in me. I've been told by other students that my questions blow them away. I've always been a thinker, and I'm very curious about most things. By the end of the year, in almost every class I take, everyone knows my name, and knows I'm smart. People ask me for help with problems, and if I see someone struggling, I offer it. Since I make it clear with my questions and wrong answers that I don't know everything, I don't think I give off a condescending air.[/color][/size]

[size=2][color=#000000]I don't know these people, but I like helping them. I'll probably never get close enough to develop a friendship with any of them, but it doesn't matter to me. I find it difficult to understand superficiality because I don't deal with people on a superficial level. I don't want friends, I don't want love interests, I just want to get on with my life and do what must be done.[/color][/size]

[QUOTE=The13thMan]
As for the garbage truck thing, it seems that you truly are superficial. If it really did smell good then you shouldn't have cared what the source of the smell was. Being that you gagged purely on the thought of what you were actually smelling was unpleasant proves your superficiality. As for myself, i would have gotten a good laugh out of it, but i wouldn't have been disgusted. If it smells good, then it smells good. If it smells good, then i believe it smells good and therefore like the smell. If an ugly[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue] [removed by Moderator][/COLOR] b-a-s-t-a-r-d smelt good then i'd say, "hey, you smell good!" That's all there is to it.
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[size=2][color=#000000]Oh, dear, here is that strangeness again. You are aware that we have five senses, yes? Are you also aware that sometimes two or more senses interact to give an impression? I did not gag purely at the thought of the garbage, I gagged at a blending of olfactory and visual stimuli. If you smell cooking meat, like bacon frying, and approach the source to find it is a man burning alive, would you laugh that off too? No, our senses do interact to give a single impression, and to separate them as you are suggesting is a very unnatural, illogical thing to do.[/color][/size]


[QUOTE=The13thMan]
Yup, if you had not given a reason then i would have been quite content with your answer. But to say that i prefer people not to give me a reason is completely the opposite of how i feel. I'm simply saying that your explanation was total [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][removed by Moderator][/COLOR]. There are plenty of good explanations out there. Haha...let me show you what you did.

Well...i'd rather smell bad and be clean! You wanna know why? Ok...it's because pirates like to rape and pillage people that are dirty and smell clean. And i'm really flippin' scared of pirates. Once when i was a kid i was attacked by a pirate...i've never really recovered from it. I can't even watch Pirates of the Carribean without screaming my head off.

That's basically what you did, my friend. You answered the question and gave a explanation that implied that you did not understand the true intent of the question itself.
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[size=2][color=black]The question was meant to guage one's superficiality, in a way, yes? If I answer in such a way that makes you believe I didn't understand how superficiality played into the question, is that not indicative of my understanding and experience with superficiality? From my answer, you got not only a guage of my superficiality, but a rather interesting one that you have overlooked. You never stopped to examine my answer for its possible meaning, only stated that it did not meet your expectations.[/color][/size]

[QUOTE=The13thMan]
Hey, nobody's questioning your sexuality there buddy. I don't know why you're being all defensive about it all of a sudden. ^L^ Maybe you're just insecure? Awww, that's cute!
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[size=2][color=#000000]How exactly am I being defensive. I only stated a couple simple little truths. I'm about as insecure as a safe carved out of diamond.[/color][/size]


[QUOTE=The13thMan]
Hahaha, Donkey Kong haircuts? Oh man that's good! Monkey faced too! Ya don't say! ^J^ I loves it when people take out the big guns and show some brass balls. Ok, ok, it's my turn now.
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[size=2][color=#000000]Big guns? I merely prodded you with the blunt end of a sharp stick. I don't really want to hurt your feelings, but I feel I must be truthful. My girlfriend says you look like a f'a'g. I'm sorry, but that's just what she said. It sounded kind of mean to me, but you wanted big guns.[/color][/size]


[QUOTE=The13thMan]
You're a dumb doodie head poo poo face! And i'm going to have to guess you're rather ugly from the fact that you did not post a picture of yourself on my other thread. That and you're probably outrageously insecure about your own appearance. I mean c'mon, who the flip still thinks mustaches are sexy nowadays?
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[size=2][color=#000000]Well, I have dial-up internet, so I really can't handle all the pictures on those pages. I haven't looked at it since I posted it, and I don't really feel like waiting 10-minutes to load a whole page. I think if you check my profile there's a little picture I took with my webcam, but I'm not entirely sure. That was a couple years ago, anywho. I wouldn't mind shaving my moustache, but Carly loves the thing, so it stays.[/color][/size]


[QUOTE=The13thMan]
I think that if you're going to try to put a person down by insulting his looks you should at least check to see rather the person is insecure about them first. Personally, i think i look damn good and nobody's going to make me think otherwise. Especially all of my female friends that agree with me that i'm hot. Maybe you should try saying i have a small penis or something. Ooo, you could make fun of my pencil or something!
[/font][/color][/QUOTE][size=2]If they thought you were hot, maybe they'd want to be more than friends? I'm sure you've hinted at this a time or two, and I'll bet the answer's been, "Oh, T13M, I value our friendship so much, I just wouldn't want anything to happen that we couldn't take back. You really are hot, I'm sure there's a girl out there for you." followed by a reassuring, sincere, but slightly doting, smile. They're probably really good at hiding pity, I mean, it's what girls do best. The size of your penis really is a non-issue, as I doubt anyone besides yourself will ever have any interest in it.[/size]

[size=2]P.S.[/size]
[size=2]If I'm being too harsh, don't be afraid to tell me. I can always tone it down a little.[/size]
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[size=2]EDIT: It seemed strange that of all things, you would go after my answer to your question. Strange people do strange things, thus, you must be strange.[/size]

[The13thMan]

[QUOTE=Adahn]

[size=2][color=#000000]I don't mind arguments, either. It's strange, though, to have one that spans this many posts without my feeling a hint of anger. Perhaps it's the demure topic of discussion. I suppose my answer to your question doesn't have much to do with superficiality. Perhaps it's because I'm quite inexperienced in practicing it. Most of my life, I've been on the receiving end of superficiality. When I was very young, I had bad eyes, so I had to wear thick glasses. I was also a little socially underdeveloped, and rather intelligent. As a result, I was branded a nerd, a social outcast, and hated. Children can be the epitome of exercising superficiality. Instead of resisting the social standing forced upon me, I accepted it. I had a severely low opinion of myself, and while everyone else was off becoming popular by being idiotic, I focused my energy on school, and became quite smart.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]

[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]I'm glad you're not angry. But on the whole i think you've failed to realize how i've felt throughout this discussion. Mostly my insults were of a playful and sarcastic nature. I really don't even care that you didn't answer my question, it's not imporant to me. It's more like, i was bored and wanted to have something to do. And considering i was sick yesterday and still am now, i wasn't about to go outside and pretend to feel ok.

Anyways, it's a total [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][removed by moderator][/COLOR] that kids picked on you. I'm the type that would stand up for ya if i knew you. Bullying is one of the worst things a young child can experience. Though i personally think that your opinion of them being idiotic is probably a little harsh and defensive. I don't know, that's just the way i see it. Maybe i'm simply misunderstanding who you're talking about. I know there are people that do idiotic things to become popular, i've seen 'em and looked down on them for years. Though when you say "everyone else" i also think of people like myself who earned friends by simply hanging out with them during and after school.

I value intelligence very highly, and if you are truly intellegent then i'll have to give you a certain amount of respect. Unfortunately there's no way i can really know how smart you are without getting to know you better. I don't think i care to, no offense to you, i just have other things to do. And i'm actually pretty smart myself, or so everyone else considered me to be. I always thought i was a normal person surrounded by below average people, except for a few.



[QUOTE=Adahn]
[size=2][color=#000000]Now, I have a higher opinion of myself. I have a young, beautiful, sexy girlfriend, so she has the most sway over my appearance. I have no need to attract anyone, so the only effort I put into my looks is to be average looking. People still express interest in me, but they won't get even a hint of it in return. I'll give you an idea of how I interact with people.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]

I find it sad that you're not interested in making more friends. People are worth getting to know. But i suppose that's just where we differ. You're content with having few friends where as i'm always interested in making more.


[QUOTE=Adahn]
[size=2][color=#000000]I'm the one who always speaks up in class. I answer questions with what I think is the correct answer, whether I know I'm right or not. I'm usually right, but sometimes I'm wrong, though it doesn't bother me in the least. I also ask questions whenever the urge rises in me. I've been told by other students that my questions blow them away. I've always been a thinker, and I'm very curious about most things. By the end of the year, in almost every class I take, everyone knows my name, and knows I'm smart. People ask me for help with problems, and if I see someone struggling, I offer it. Since I make it clear with my questions and wrong answers that I don't know everything, I don't think I give off a condescending air.[/color][/size]

[size=2][color=#000000]I don't know these people, but I like helping them. I'll probably never get close enough to develop a friendship with any of them, but it doesn't matter to me. I find it difficult to understand superficiality because I don't deal with people on a superficial level. I don't want friends, I don't want love interests, I just want to get on with my life and do what must be done.[/color][/size]

[/color][/QUOTE]You just want to get through life? Gee, you make life sound like a chore that you just want to get done with so you can move on. I look at life entirely different than you it seems. I'm excited about life and don't want it to end anytime soon. I'm always up for making friends and love interests. I think that's what makes life worth living. That and all the other excitements life has to offer. I say live life to the fullest. I pity anyone who thinks otherwise. I'm not implying that you think that though. The way i see it, you probably just have a different perception of the ideal life. I don't know though, you tell me.



[QUOTE=Adahn]
[size=2][color=#000000]Oh, dear, here is that strangeness again. You are aware that we have five senses, yes? Are you also aware that sometimes two or more senses interact to give an impression? I did not gag purely at the thought of the garbage, I gagged at a blending of olfactory and visual stimuli. If you smell cooking meat, like bacon frying, and approach the source to find it is a man burning alive, would you laugh that off too? No, our senses do interact to give a single impression, and to separate them as you are suggesting is a very unnatural, illogical thing to do.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]You said that the garbage smelt sweet. Do you like sweet smells? If so then you cannot say that the olfactory contributed to your gagging. How can something pleasant cause you to gag? Now, on the other hand, if you do not like sweet smells then the whole garbage metaphor is totally irrelevant to our original argument.

As for the man burning alive scenario, that too is irrelevant. I laughed at the fact it was garbage and it was funny. I wouldn't laugh at a man burning alive. That's horrible and is nothing like garbage. To even compare the two is to devalue human life. If i saw the man burning alive i'd try and help him if i thought i could. I won't go any further, you get my point.



[QUOTE=Adahn]
[size=2][color=black]The question was meant to guage one's superficiality, in a way, yes? If I answer in such a way that makes you believe I didn't understand how superficiality played into the question, is that not indicative of my understanding and experience with superficiality? From my answer, you got not only a guage of my superficiality, but a rather interesting one that you have overlooked. You never stopped to examine my answer for its possible meaning, only stated that it did not meet your expectations.[/color][/size]

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I'm sorry, i suppose i should have assumed from you simplistic answer that you were totally ignorant of superficiality. The only way i could have understood your lack of superficiality is if i knew you better than i did. I took it for face value with a couple of assumptions that you were aware that the whole thread was about superficiality...i mean, that is the name of the thread, isn't it? I thought i was being rather obvious, i suppose not.

I don't know rather you caught the sarcasm or not...you have missed it before it seems.



[QUOTE=Adahn]
[size=2][color=#000000]How exactly am I being defensive. I only stated a couple simple little truths. I'm about as insecure as a safe carved out of diamond.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]
I was only kidding around with you there, buddy.





[QUOTE=Adahn]

[size=2][color=#000000]Big guns? I merely prodded you with the blunt end of a sharp stick. I don't really want to hurt your feelings, but I feel I must be truthful. My girlfriend says you look like a [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][removed by moderator][/COLOR]. I'm sorry, but that's just what she said. It sounded kind of mean to me, but you wanted big guns.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]The whole name calling thing was meant to be for fun. I never intended to hurt your feelings, and i certainly have not been hurt myself by what you've said. I was just [COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][removed by moderator][/COLOR] around with ya, bud. As for your girlfriend's comment. Let me reply by saying, wow, she seems nice. Tell her she has some nice t-i-t-s. ^L^

The whole big guns thing was used to mock your insult at me. I mean...who goes around telling people they look like donkey kong? That's rather strange. I did get a laugh out of it though, so good job.





[QUOTE=Adahn]
[size=2][color=#000000]Well, I have dial-up internet, so I really can't handle all the pictures on those pages. I haven't looked at it since I posted it, and I don't really feel like waiting 10-minutes to load a whole page. I think if you check my profile there's a little picture I took with my webcam, but I'm not entirely sure. That was a couple years ago, anywho. I wouldn't mind shaving my moustache, but Carly loves the thing, so it stays.[/color][/size][/QUOTE]

Jesus Christ man! Dial up?! For god's sake man, splurge for cable. You won't regret it. Man, i didn't think anybody was still using dial up nowadays. I feel bad for you now.



[QUOTE=Adahn]
[size=2]If they thought you were hot, maybe they'd want to be more than friends? I'm sure you've hinted at this a time or two, and I'll bet the answer's been, "Oh, T13M, I value our friendship so much, I just wouldn't want anything to happen that we couldn't take back. You really are hot, I'm sure there's a girl out there for you." followed by a reassuring, sincere, but slightly doting, smile. They're probably really good at hiding pity, I mean, it's what girls do best. The size of your penis really is a non-issue, as I doubt anyone besides yourself will ever have any interest in it.[/size]

[size=2]P.S.[/size]
[size=2]If I'm being too harsh, don't be afraid to tell me. I can always tone it down a little.[/size]
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[size=2]EDIT: It seemed strange that of all things, you would go after my answer to your question. Strange people do strange things, thus, you must be strange.[/size][/QUOTE]
Wow, i have no idea where that came from... Just because a girl thinks someone is attractive doesn't mean they're interested in pursuing a relationship with a person. I know i'm definitely not interested in going out with a chick just because she's hot. I've told many girls before that they're hot without any desire to pursue a relationship with them. I think maybe you're just not used to that sort of thing...you did say that you're socially inexperienced, didn't you? Some of the girls weren't even my friend, just girls i know from school or something.

As for the penis comment, owwie. That was harsh man. I feel like i'm about to cry because of it.

Congrats on the smokin' hot girlfriend.

Overall, i still think we've misunderstood each other. Oh well.
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[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][SIZE=1][INDENT]The13thMan, you've been a member long enough to know better than to get around the swear filter. I've modified your post for you, but in the future do not do so again. ~indifference[/INDENT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

[TheResplendent]

[font=tahoma][b]Seems to me like this thread is in the beggining stages of digressing from it's original intention.[/b] I'll throw in a few more opinions of my own in general...

In addition to my previous posts in this thread i'd just like to add that i agree pretty much that everyone is atleast a little superficial. It's part of human nature, and rather then try to idealize our own images for the concerns of society it is best for us to know who we are and to realize that being superficial has degrees, there is line between normal and ignorant. But being superficial to a minimal degree isn't always something to feel deserving of admonishment about.[/font]

[Horendithas]

[COLOR=DeepSkyBlue][B]The13thMan[/B] and [B]Adahn[/B] this needs to end as it?s pointlessly derailing the thread. I?m mostly looking at you [B]The13thMan[/B] as I?ve had to edit a number of posts to remove your uncalled for swearing where you modified the words a bit in order to get around the swear filter. You?ve been here long enough to know better.

Debates are fine but being confrontational and slipping in swearing and uncalled for insults is not. Consider this a warning as further behavior along these lines will not only get this thread locked but could possibly result in a ban as well. If you have any questions about this you can pm me.[/COLOR]

[Adahn]

[size=2]Well, the whole argument thing has wound down a bit, so why don't we let it sleep? That's no reason not to carry on a conversation, though.[/size]
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[size=2]I've been sick lately too, for over a week. I think it's bronchitis, but my cough isn't as bad as the last time I had it, so I'm not sure. If you'd like to banter back and forth, I'm usually up for debating something interesting, but if it's to be here, it really should be more directly related to the topic.[/size]
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[size=2]I find it hard to not hold animosity towards the people who emotionally abused me at school, but I don't regret what was done to me. It made me into a pretty fine person, if I do say so myself, and I'm quite happy being me.[/size]
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[size=2]None of you will probably ever be in any of my classes, so you'll never know how smart I am. Also, I'm much better at making people angry or annoyed with me than I am at convincing them to see something my way, so I don't expect to make a good impression here. I can be persuasive when I want something, but all I really want here is to explore.[/size]
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[size=2]I wouldn't really mind more friends, but I commute to my school, and with a full schedule, it's hard to find time. I'm thinking about living on campus for my senior year, so that might be interesting. Also, any friends I make would more than likely be temporary, what with having to go to graduate school and all.[/size]
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[size=2]Oh, I'm quite happy with my life, it's just that I always have a goal to work for, and it always seems so far away. It feels like I'm coasting along towards my destination, and nothing I can do will make it take less time. I know what I want, and I'm working for it, but I've been working for it my entire life, and it's tiring. It's not enough to stop me, but I sure am tired.[/size]
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[size=2]We can't get cable or dsl where I live, and the only other high speed internet option is satellite. I'm not willing to spend $99.99 a month on the internet when what I have now is at least sufficient.[/size]
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[size=2]I hope y'all don't mind my carrying on a personal conversation here, and if you do, yeh can pick it to pieces and decide whether or not I'm being superficial somewhere. To be on the safe side, though, I'll examine what I would think to be the opposite of superficiality.[/size]
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[size=2]Every time you see someone and focus on them, you recognize that they are a completely and utterly unique human being with hopes, dreams, and fears, just like you. Whatever they look like, you see the beauty of humanity in them shine through like a blazing beacon, and any thoughts of disliking them for their weight, height, skin color, hygiene, or anything are washed away with an intense feeling of love for this being that stands before you.[/size]
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[size=2]Non-superficiality is empathy to the extreme. Could we then judge the superficiality of others by questioning them about their empathy?[/size]
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[Guest Phaedrus]

Beauty's only skin deep? What do you want, a beautiful pancreas?