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[SIZE=1]Hey everyone... this forum looks like it needs a bit of my help to get back to its former self. Maybe if everyone has a topic to discuss they won't keep flooding the otaku awards, lol...

Do you believe in fate? Do you think that every action we carry out, everything we say and everything we say is somehow predetermined and bound to happen no matter what. Are our lives nothing but small pieces in an epic puzzle being put together by a higher power, what are your thoughts on the subject... I will post my ideas on it later on.[/SIZE]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by coolkam007 [/i]
[B]i really have no way to explain why i think this.. nor will i try, this is one of those topics that can never really have an correct answer.. (without proof that is..)

my answer is yes and no.. i think that some things are predetermined.. [/B][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1]Well the idea of the topic was to bring about discussion, its not a yes or no type of question.[/SIZE]
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I say yes, I think that major events are predetermined and that they will happen no matter what...

I say no, I think small events...that do not effect the world...are not predetermined. Such as my life...I can do ALMOST anything but I can not change the world unless I was "destined" to...

So like coolkam I say yes and no...
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Being the Matrix fan that I am...I saw it last night :D I'm gonna quote Neo and Morpheus for a minute..

"Tell me Neo, do you believe in fate?"
[I]"No"[/I]
"Why not?"
[I]"Well because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life."[/I]

What Neo said, sums up my feelings

I dont believe in fate. I believe in destiny, but not fate. Which is quite the paradox i know, but no I don't believe in fate.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DBZChikaGhan [/i]
[B]Being the Matrix fan that I am...I saw it last night :D I'm gonna quote Neo and Morpheus for a minute..

"Tell me Neo, do you believe in fate?"
[I]"No"[/I]
"Why not?"
[I]"Well because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life."[/I]

What Neo said, sums up my feelings

I dont believe in fate. I believe in destiny, but not fate. Which is quite the paradox i know, but no I don't believe in fate. [/B][/QUOTE]

do you choose not to believe it because you dont want to?

.. heh.. ^^ i dont believe in my report card because i dont want to... (*poof*) wow its gone :p lol
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I'm no, that's all there is to it...destiny, fate, whatever you wanna call it...i say no. We all have the free will to do something with our lives. No man can ever take that away. They can try to make you do stuff, but in the end, your life is based on [b]YOUR[/b] actions.

At least...that's what I believe in
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by coolkam007 [/i]
[B]

do you choose not to believe it because you dont want to?

.. heh.. ^^ i dont believe in my report card because i dont want to... (*poof*) wow its gone :p lol [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I guess that's it, I don't want to believe that something else controls me. That makes me feel caged. And well... ahve you ever heard the expression, "You can't age a wild animal"? Well that applies to me. I hate the feeling of being confined.

God if I could make my report card go poof... *cartman voice* sweet...

DAMN YOU MCCHESNEY!!!!!!

*flaring at the teacher who gave her an E*

That's why I don't believe in fate. Was it predetirmined that I would get an E? Well THAT'S f*cked up!

*turns up Nirvana and refuses to believe in fate giving her an E*
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I belive in many things. I think that all things come into play at some point but we are in full control. Fate my play into some of our actions, but very rarely it does. At this moment in my life, i don't belive in fate, i know i can control what i do, what i say, and what i think. Fate has no play on me.
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no, I don't believe in fate in the least bit. I think everything that happens is purely coincidence, however odd the coincidence may be. I believe people want to believe that they are a part of something special, and not just another joe in the big mass of people out there. This leads to the belief of fate. Some believe they are "destined" for another, or they are "destined" to perform a specific duty to better a community or society or whatever. I firmly believe that is not true. Now I know right now I sound like a real "glass is half empty" kind of guy, but don't get me wrong I'm not like that at all. I'm hopeful, yet simply realistic as well.....
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[QUOTE]I say no, I think small events...that do not effect the world...are not predetermined. Such as my life...I can do ALMOST anything but I can not change the world unless I was "destined" to... [/QUOTE]

So was Hitler destined to kill more than 6 million people? What kind of a greater being would allow that? One that's not there, that's what......
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[color=deeppink]While deep down inside I'd like to believe in fate, but there's too many things in my life that have just turned out negative and have hurt me. It's not like I wallow in my sorrow, because by no means would I do that, but sometimes I'd just like to have a grip on what's happening and be pessimistic. I can't dream as easily when dreams have been broken, and a lot of fate is believing that dreams come true. I hope that all makes sense ;)[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Nothing674 [/i]
[B]

So was Hitler destined to kill more than 6 million people? What kind of a greater being would allow that? One that's not there, that's what...... [/B][/QUOTE]

I'm not saying I believe that there [b]IS[/b] without a doubt a higher power, but perhaps Hitler was destined to do that to wake the world up to the evil that is in the world. Pearl Harbor was a horrible tragedy, but if it had never happened, the war might've gone on for years and years. The events of September 11th were a horrible affair, but maybe it was meant as a wake-up call to the U.S. to go find these terrorists and hunt them down like the scum that they are. What better way to incite action than to attack on someone's homeland?

About my beliefs on fate, I say that whether we want to or not, we all have some purpose in life. We have a small amount of control over it, but if we were meant for something big, something big will happen to us. We might change what that something is, but we can't prevent it from happening. And you can't hide under a rock to get away from it either.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DBZChikaGhan [/i]
[B]Being the Matrix fan that I am...I saw it last night :D I'm gonna quote Neo and Morpheus for a minute..

"Tell me Neo, do you believe in fate?"
[I]"No"[/I]
"Why not?"
[I]"Well because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life."[/I]

What Neo said, sums up my feelings

I dont believe in fate. I believe in destiny, but not fate. Which is quite the paradox i know, but no I don't believe in fate. [/B][/QUOTE]

i agree with DBZChikaGohan I'd believe in destiny not what the gods above make what happen to you
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Athena [/i]
[B]
About my beliefs on fate, I say that whether we want to or not, we all have some purpose in life. We have a small amount of control over it, but if we were meant for something big, something big will happen to us. We might change what that something is, but we can't prevent it from happening. And you can't hide under a rock to get away from it either. [/B][/QUOTE]

That's a good way of putting it. :)
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i've heard that [b]'Fate is for those who can't control their destiny...'[/b] interpret that as you will...:D

but i'm a strong believer in Fate! i believe that what ever happens was meant to happen...everything happens for a reason and so on... :blah:

i believe that our lives are determined from the second we're born!
kinda where astrology fits in...:babble:

*this is just my belief system* :love2:
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FATE? Yeah, i believe, she doesn't like me though. Last time we were in a room together, she tried to kill me! Gee, maybe I shouldn't have sent her those brownies that had exlax in them, and itching powder too! but yeah, I do believe in her(considering that i walk against her 24/7!)
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