Tekkaman Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 [font=Century Gothic][color=gray]I have nothing to say in my defense...[/color][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellerby Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 [quote name='Tekkaman][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]I have nothing to say in my defense...[/color'][/font][/quote] [COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]Umm... alright. Voting will now commence. If you think Tekkaman is guilty, PM me saying so. If you think he is innocent, don't PM me. There will be 2 days for you guys to vote and I won't be allowing [b]any[/b] extra time. 2 days. [center][img]http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3882/tkmncopyje1.jpg[/img][/center] Since only two people made accusations and neither of those people were voted off, we will now move on to the next round. [center][img]http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2372/mafialogo5copymo3.jpg[/img][/center] Would the Priest, the Detective and the Mafia please PM me ASAP with their next choice of person. Things seemed to be going pretty well after the large amount of court drama everyone had suffered the previous day, until the next victim was found... [spoiler]Sakura[/spoiler] was found in three separate pieces, apparently by chainsaw, at 7:00 in the morning. It was another Mafia murder. Who is the Mafia? Is there a pattern here somewhere? Was [spoiler]Sakura[/spoiler] killed because she is a fan girl of Delta's artwork? Who knows? A town meeting is to be held soon. Until then, the town has a day to discuss what's happened.[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 [color=dimgray][center]We will move onto this round'ss accusation from [B]Aaryanna_Mom[/B] concerning [B]Ikillion[/B]. Please, A_M, post your accusation here, after which Ikillion can respond to this. Then we will move onto the voting.[/center][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I?m sure that several of you are now thinking, what the heck? Aaryanna_Mom is accusing Ikillion? Well I am about to explain why I am saying that Ikillion is a member of the mafia. During the course of losing two of our members to the mafia we have gone through numerous thoughts and arguments as to who the killer could be. From the more obvious outspoken Tekkaman to the quiet and polite new member, which is myself. But yet in spite of our attempts to find the killer, we have failed. I was reading this post by Ikillion and realized that we are going about it the wrong way. [QUOTE=Ikillion][color=#d2b43b][SIZE=1][FONT=Trebuchet MS]Yeah before anyone else begins to think that I have gone AWOL for no apprent reason let [I]me[/I] explain. Just because I don't post in this thread doesn't mena that I haven't any intrest in the game. It just means that...well I don't post in the tread. I have talked to people on {Insert IM service here} about this whole thing. I've submitted my vote on was going to happen and such. Its just that I didn't post here because most of the things that were being said were my thoughs, and I just don't wnat to go and repeat something for no reason, it would sound so blah. [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]Instead of wondering so much about those who are so vocal in trying to drag others out of the shadows, from their secret conversations as to who the killer is, we should be focusing on those who really have said next to nothing in regards to who the killer could be. I have to wonder why Ikillion has not taken the time to explain his thoughts on the matter, sure it might be a bit repetitive, but it puts us on the same page, it reassures us that he is concerned, but yet he asserts that repeating a similar thought would sound so blah. Blah? How can being concerned about others being killed be blah? Even if your thoughts mirror another person, by not coming forward and saying so, by voting in secret you isolate yourself. And after thinking about this I realized that the only reason one would really isolate themselves is to avoid accidentally saying something that would reveal that they are one of the mafia responsible for the killings in the first place. Perhaps Ikillion is only terrified that by speaking they will draw attention to themselves, but by hardly saying anything at all, they are instead looking like the one who is in the shadows orchestrating the entire affair, carefully planning our demise. Now it?s up to all of you to decide. Do we keep playing it safe? Or do we take a stand to finally end the reign of terror that has gripped our small town? If we don't even try, we will all die a horrible death like the two girls who have already been cruely murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikillion Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 [color=#d2b43b][SIZE=1][FONT=Trebuchet MS] :animeswea ... Well I can't say that I [I]didn't[/I] expect this to happen. I hate it when I'm right. So then, lesse what I can say here, instead of giving a rather long and avid list of reasons and excuses of why I have had little to do with the killings (Since that would only make me look more guilty). I am just going to say that there were "outside forces" preventing me. Although I am really not supirsed that I am under suspision since if I wasn't me and another person who was also a townsperson. I would suspect myself since being oddly quiet would be kind of odd but what can you do? since that isn't true and all. In my defense, although if I was a mafia I would probably say a little more to gain trust and decieve people instead of trying to settle myself as a loner who tries to do things on his own way. I really don't think I have anything else to say. Although I do have a feeling that justice will prevail and those who have done such horrible things to these townspeople shall be caught and executed.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 [color=dimgray]With that being said, the participants now have time until [B]Wednesday[/B] to vote whether you think Ikillion is part of the Mafia or not. Like before, only send me private messages if you think Ikillion is [B]guilty[/B]. ---------------------------------------------------------------- [CENTER][IMG]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/SamSandy/mafia1.png[/IMG][/CENTER] After the Court's decision, Ikillion was swiftly hanged like the town laws stated. But, as it soon turned out, Ikillion was [B]not[/B] part of the Mafia after all, and the killings continued... Since there were no more suspects, the town turned in to another sleepless night. ------------------------------------------------------------------ [CENTER][IMG]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/SamSandy/mafialogo5copymo3.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] During the night, only the [B]Priest[/B], the [B]Detective[/B] and the [B]Mafia[/B] stayed up, each on their own work. Please, each of you, send me the private messages with your targets. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The next morning, the Detective's assistant arrived to the office, expecting to find his boss sleeping behind his desk after working through the night. He found [B]Detective John[/B] behind his desk, indeed, but to his horror, he had fallen into an eternal sleep with a bullet on his brain. The news spread like fire across the Town, and the townsfolk quickly gathered to grieve over the loss of the detective who had been hiding in the shadows before this. People, please discuss this incident and it's consequences here at the [B]Town[/B] now.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekkaman Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 [color=#696969]Quote: [/color]Originally Posted by [b]Sandy[/b] [i]...[color=#696969]please discuss this incident and it's consequences here at the [b]Town[/b] now.[/color][/i] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]I don't know about that, but I do know that we usually discuss the incident and consequences in the Underground Thread. This thread is more like 'The Courtroom' and is only used to accuse, which, if you don't mind [color=darkred]Sandy[/color], i'm going to do right now.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]I accuse [color=darkred]Boo[/color] of being Mafia once again because it was the last wish of a man's untimely death ([color=darkred]John[/color]). With our Detective gone, we have lost our only true leverage for this game. Hopefully, though, based on the information he gave me, I will be a good witness standing in his place.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]Okay, firstly, I admit to the fact that the first time I accused [color=darkred]Boo[/color], I had little to no evidence. And secondly, I deserved to have [color=darkred]Boo[/color] get mad at me for doing that.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]But...The sad part about it is that I was right in accusing him from the beginning, heh.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]And another thing, I figure that anyone can say that they're not mafia and have proof but never show it. So just like a picture captures a person's defining features so can writing - or more specifically - a PM. This is what i'll be using as evidence showing that [color=darkred]John[/color] and I were, in fact, allied and that i'm innocent all at the same time.[/color][/size][/font] [color=#696969]12-12-2006, 10:19 AM [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"]John[/url] [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/images/geisha/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/img] Member Burn our fingers on the sun [url="http://www.myotaku.com/john"]myOtaku Last Updated[/url]: 12/04/06. [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]View[/url] or [url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]Sign[/url] Guestbook] [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/account/friends/add/62/"]Add Me as Friend[/url]] [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"][img]http://www.otakuboards.com/customavatars/avatar6786_14.gif[/img][/url] [b]I'm the Detective. Don't worry about that part.[/b] ...And I can say this openly to you because you were the person I investigated in the first round, so I know you're innocent. If I were Mafia, I'd have not told you I was the Detective and taken the risk of you being the real one and catching me. I'm more cautious than that. :P And obviously, keep this to yourself no matter what. I won't expose myself to anyone unless I know (or am almost certain) they're innocent, and it's not too important for all the townspeople to know who the Detective is anyway. But if I've got your confidence, then I think we can band together and get a degree of leverage in the accusations and voting. I agree with your suspicions against Aaryana_Mom anyway, so let's try to vote her out. But just so you know, I won't spend my investigations on the same person I try to vote out. I'll publicly press against one person, but also investigate someone else that I suspect so I won't have all my eggs in one basket. We'll see how it works out. [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]Boom. So that should prove my innocence as well as prove the obvious - that [color=darkred]John[/color] was, in fact, the Detective. Pay attention to the dates from here on out.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]Here's more:[/color][/size][/font] 12-13-2006, 11:02 PM [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"]John[/url] [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/images/geisha/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/img] Member Burn our fingers on the sun [url="http://www.myotaku.com/john"]myOtaku Last Updated[/url]: 12/04/06. [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]View[/url] or [url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]Sign[/url] Guestbook] [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/account/friends/add/62/"]Add Me as Friend[/url]] [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"][img]http://www.otakuboards.com/customavatars/avatar6786_14.gif[/img][/url] [b]Re: Just a few things[/b] Quote: Futhermore, I'll go ahead and accuse Aaryanna_Mom but I really don't think she's Mafia (I had a lengthy talk with her). What do you think? Well if you don't think she's Mafia, then it'd be a big mistake to accuse her. I don't think we'll have much to go on as far as choosing another suspect, since the killings still haven't given us a reliable pattern, but if you've got any hunches then go ahead and get your accusation in before someone else submits one. I'll vote for it just to keep some cohesion going. [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]This is why I didn't accuse [color=darkred]Aaryanna_Mom[/color].[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]But wait... there's more.[/color][/size][/font] 12-17-2006, 07:19 PM [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"]John[/url] [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/images/geisha/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/img] Member Burn our fingers on the sun [url="http://www.myotaku.com/john"]myOtaku Last Updated[/url]: 12/04/06. [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]View[/url] or [url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]Sign[/url] Guestbook] [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/account/friends/add/62/"]Add Me as Friend[/url]] [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"][img]http://www.otakuboards.com/customavatars/avatar6786_14.gif[/img][/url] [b]Ikillion[/b] Pointless accusation, pointless defense. Nothing to be gained from the thread. Really, all we've got are pure odds, and those are in favor of him being innocent just like anyone else. However, with every innocent verdict that we give, the odds that the next person accused will be Mafia go up. Unless you've spoken with Ikillion or something and have reason to believe he's guilty, then I suggest we wait this vote out until the odds peak--probably the next accusation or the one after that--to vote someone guilty. We can't really afford to have an innocent person killed, especially in the coming days. [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]But I didn't listen to [color=darkred]John[/color]; he was the only person who didn't think [color=darkred]Ikillion[/color] did it. I was a more 'ruthless' townsperson, though.[/color][/size][/font] 12-17-2006, 09:33 PM [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=30155"]Allamorph[/url] [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/images/geisha/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/img] Member Last of the Old Guard [b]Mafia[/b] [font=Arial]Hey. While I tend towards the probability that [color=darkred]Ikillion[/color] is guilty ? his presence has bothered me for most of the game (which has admittedly been all of a round and a half) ? I can't help but think that [color=darkred]Aaryanna_Mom[/color] jumped rather quickly with her accusation, which, in light of your earlier ... proposal, seems a bit odd to me. Combined with her persistent 'Artful Dodgery' (heh) in response to both your statements and my query, I am beginning to wonder just how well she's playing this game. I realize, of course, that your initial suggestion may have been a clever bit of misdirection; however, [color=darkred]A_M[/color] got that accusation in there P.D.Q., and the only thing that might have generated previous support would be my continued picking at him earlier for his absence. (Eep. I'm an accomplice.) I assume, as the only person to actually name another player in the [color=darkgreen]Town[/color] this round ? sorry about that, by the way; I had nothing ? that you've carried your thoughts through to the court. Thus, I am offering you the opportunity to influence my vote. As I said earlier, I would hold no remorse if [color=darkred]Ikillion[/color] falls here, but [color=darkred]Aaryanna_Mom[/color] is a greater threat, I would gladly deal with her first. Reply as you will. -A[/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]I guess you can all imagine what I told [color=darkred]Allamorph[/color] to do, right?[/color][/size][/font] 12-17-2006, 10:36 PM [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=30155"]Allamorph[/url] [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/images/geisha/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/img] Member Last of the Old Guard [b]Re: Mafia[/b] Quote: Originally Posted by [b]Tekkaman[/b] [i]I say vote Ikillion out. This may sound horrible, but we need at least one more civilian scapegoat before we can get closer to solving this mystery. Aaryanna_Mom could be guilty but I want to sniff her out some more; lemme track her patterns a little more, aight. Plus, in regards to Ikillion being voted guilty, he should've posted more to stay in the game; it's his own fault for what's about to happen.[/i] [font=Arial]Hunh. That was actually the direction my mind had started heading while I was writing you. Interesting. And convenient. Thanks for what essentially is a confirmation. I promise to think more lucidly in ensuing rounds. Quote: Originally Posted by [b]T-Man[/b] [i]I do know one thing: If Aaryanna_Mom is, in fact, Mafia, she would not rat out her accomplice. The same rule applies for Ikillion; If they were to kill off their buddy in the game, it'd only be a matter of time before the other was snuffed out.[/i] Not necessarily. Not this early in the game, granted, but teammate sacrifice is a very useful survival tactic in the court; it builds a small measure of trust in the accuser. I was actually on the receiving end of that little ploy in one game, and the Mafia (my partner) ended up winning the match. But yeah. At this stage, I doubt [i]both[/i] of them are Mafia. -A[/font] [font=Century Gothic][size=2][color=gray]So, [color=darkred]Ikillion[/color] got the rope. *Shruggs* What was I supposed to do? Sit back and let people die?[/color][/size][/font] [font=Century Gothic][size=2][color=gray]So anyway, I sent a lot of information to [color=darkred]John[/color] and he replied with this:[/color][/size][/font] 12-19-2006, 11:05 PM [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"]John[/url] [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/images/geisha/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/img] Member Burn our fingers on the sun [url="http://www.myotaku.com/john"]myOtaku Last Updated[/url]: 12/04/06. [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]View[/url] or [url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]Sign[/url] Guestbook] [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/account/friends/add/62/"]Add Me as Friend[/url]] [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"][img]http://www.otakuboards.com/customavatars/avatar6786_14.gif[/img][/url] [b]Re: Check this out[/b] Quote: Originally Posted by [b]Tekkaman[/b] [i][center][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]Quote: [/font][/color][/size] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Aaryanna_Mom[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Boo[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]John[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Katana[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]MistressRoxie[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][/center] [/color][/center] [size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][left][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]Now look, I know that you are innocent, ok? So let's see what happens whan we cross off your name...[/font][/color][/size][/left] [size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]Quote: [/font][/color][/size][/color][/size] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Aaryanna_Mom[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Boo[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic][size=2][color=indigo]John[/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Katana[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]MistressRoxie[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [/center] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][/color][/size][center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]Quote: [/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Aaryanna_Mom[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Boo[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Katana[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]MistressRoxie[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [/center] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][left][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]Now... If [color=indigo]Aaryanna_Mom[/color] is telling the truth about being a townsfolk (We had a long talk, trust me) then look what happens...[/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/left] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]Quote: [/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic][size=2][color=indigo]Aaryanna_Mom[/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Boo[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Katana[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]MistressRoxie[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [/center] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]Quote: [/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Boo[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Katana[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]MistressRoxie[/color][/font][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [center][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/center] [/center] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][left][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic]That leaves two Mafia and a Priest. Now... [color=indigo]MistressRoxie[/color] and [color=indigo]Katana[/color] both say they're townsfolk. Lemme tell ya, if [color=indigo]Aaryanna_Mom[/color] is telling the truth, they're both full of it; one of them is, in fact, Mafia. I don't know exactly who's honest and who's lying, but I do know that [color=indigo]Boo[/color] [u]is[/u] Mafia. Check it...[/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/left] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][left][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=1][color=black][font=Century Gothic]Quote: Originally Posted by [b]Boo, in the Underground[/b] [i][/font][font=Century Gothic][size=1][color=black]Don't be so ignorant. You just posted a bunch of paragraphs with the same whining about the same **** over and over again. That I agreed with Aaryanna_Mom. I didn't need to provide a whole lot of extra paragraphs, because her arguments made sense. There is no sense in copying her post because I think about it the same. [/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/i] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=1][color=black][font=Century Gothic][size=1][color=black] And I did not say you are the murderer because you don't have many arguments. I'm saying that it looks more like you are trying to pin the blame off on someone else. There was no need to defend against your attack, because there were no arguments apart from "zOMG HE AGRED WID SUM1". Don't give me that **** about not suplying enough paragraphs of text, because if they're full of bullcrap anyway, you might as well shut up. It's a game, but now you're just pissing me off.[/color][/size] [/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size] [left][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][font=Century Gothic][color=gray]And this...[/color][/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/left] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray] [/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][left][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=1][color=black][font=Century Gothic]Quote: Originally Posted by [b]Boo, in the Town[/b] [i][/font][font=Century Gothic][size=1][color=black]At least Allomorph was inventive with his arguments, and Aaryanna_Mom with her counter arguments.[/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/i] [size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=2][color=gray][size=1][color=black][font=Century Gothic][size=1][color=black] Tekkaman, you didn't give any valid arguments [i]at all[/i]. You just waited for the first person to agree with someone so you could try pin the blame on them (me in this case).[/color][/size] [/font][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size][/color][/size] [font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Now... do you see a pattern?[/color][/font] [font=Century Gothic][color=gray][color=indigo]Boo[/color] never said [u]what[/u] he was; he didn't say that he wasn't Mafia.[/color][/font] [font=Century Gothic][color=gray]Though he played the anger card quite well, he was Mafia after all; my gut pointed him out from the beginning.[/color][/font] [font=Century Gothic]Quote: Originally Posted by [b]Tekkaman, in the Underground[/b] [i]...Instead, i'd pay more attention to [color=indigo]Boo[/color]. He was the only one who agreed with you, [color=indigo]Aaryanna_Mom[/color], and provided no information [u]of his own[/u] as to why i'm the killer; well, unless you validate the few bits of his own information in his post that can also be accounted for as 'common sense' thinking. [size=2][color=gray]Remember, the killer [color=indigo]'plays'[/color] the buddy-buddy role.[/color][/size] [size=2][color=gray]Oh, and [color=indigo]John[/color] made a great second point: Finger pointing does flesh out the [u]true[/u] criminal. And now that [color=indigo]MistressRoxie[/color] (Nothing more than bait to bring out the 'guilty party'.) has served her purpose, [color=indigo]Aaryanna_Mom,[/color] [color=indigo]Boo[/color] has shown himself to be truly guilty by not defending himself at all.[/color][/size] [size=2][color=gray]Sub-par, at best, [color=indigo]Boo[/color][color=gray].[/color] [color=indigo]*Winks*[/color][/color][/size][/i] [/font] [font=Century Gothic]LOL. I should've stuck with my gut. Damn.[/font] [font=Century Gothic]Hopefully, this info helps.[/font] [/left] [/left] [/i] I had a feeling from the beginning until now that it was him, but unfortunately there were other people in mind that I had to accuse as well. You're right, though, and I strongly suspect that it's him. We can't really put him on trial again because a) I don't know if the rules allow it, and b) well, people will just be too anxious to accuse someone new that they'll probably find him innocent again anyway. Even if this doesn't turn out to be true, I'll investigate him next round. I think Katana is a much more likely candidate, though. [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]This is why i'm imploring that you vote out [color=darkred]Boo[/color]. [color=darkred]Aaryanna_Mom[/color], if you're innocent - like I said in my PM's - then i'm sure that after reading this, i'll have your vote against [color=darkred]Boo[/color]. There's no denying that these PM's belong to [color=darkred]John[/color] and I couldn't lie to him since he has the power to figure out who's Mafia and who's not. I hope that this makes sense to everyone.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]Finally, i'll post the last thing John sent me:[/color][/size][/font] Yesterday, 11:07 PM [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"]John[/url] [img]http://www.otakuboards.com/images/geisha/statusicon/user_offline.gif[/img] Member Burn our fingers on the sun [url="http://www.myotaku.com/john"]myOtaku Last Updated[/url]: 12/04/06. [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]View[/url] or [url="http://www.myotaku.com/users/john/guestbook/"]Sign[/url] Guestbook] [[url="http://www.myotaku.com/account/friends/add/62/"]Add Me as Friend[/url]] [url="http://www.otakuboards.com/member.php?u=6786"][img]http://www.otakuboards.com/customavatars/avatar6786_14.gif[/img][/url] [b]I'm the Detective.[/b] My internet just blew up on me, deleting the long PM I was sending, so I'm rather [b][i]very pissed[/i][/b] right now and will send a shorter message outlining my main points instead. [list=1] [*]I'd be willing to bet good money that Roxie is innocent. I've been around her and the boards long enough that I can judge her caliber for something like this, and for her to be Mafia she'd be stretching quite a bit beyond her capabilities for subtlety and wit (not trying to put the kid down lol). Not certain, of course, but I feel pretty good about this. [*]Just to reaffirm, I'd put just as much money on the possibility that Boo is Mafia. And Katana along with him, as well. They've both been giving me increasingly bad vibes from the beginning, and, well, they're too congruent. They post the same amount, say pretty much the same things (usually just their own defense), hell, they even say it the same way usually. I think they're easily our most likely candidates, despite any uneasiness I have about A_M just from not knowing her long enough to judge her. [*]I really don't think we can put Boo back up on trial again. For one, whoever does it will get killed off for sure this time, and for another, it's too risky. People will either vote him [i]very[/i] guilty or [i]very[/i] innocent because it's double jeopardy, and I don't know which. As it stands, he's easily the one I suspect the most, so I think it would be safe for me to kill him off. I'm open to other suggestions on this, though, so if you've got any better ideas, by all means shoot. [*]I'm on Christmas vacation and don't have steady 'net access right now, so I'm not sure when I'll be able to be on and when not for the next ten days or so. I'll make sure I get my votes and investigations in at the very least, though. [*]Allamorph, Tekkaman is very much a Townsperson. If he's a liar, then that makes me one by proxy, and if I was going to pull one over on anyone I'd have chosen you first, not him. :P [/list] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]So... based off all the information I just gave out, I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that [color=darkred]Boo[/color] is Mafia. I also know that [color=darkred]Allamorph[/color] is innocent based on [color=darkred]John[/color]'s detective work, [color=darkred]Aaryanna_Mom[/color] and [color=darkred]MistressRoxie[/color] have been excused.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]That leaves only one other.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]I rest my case.[/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 [color=DimGray]Alright, then, we move onto the [B]Court[/B] now. First accusation is [B]Tekkaman[/B] blaming [B]Boo[/B], so now the suspected person (Boo) can reply. More accusations can be sent to my [B]PM-box[/B], thank you.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 [size=1]I wanted to wait a bit with this post, but I guess that would stall the game for too long. Also I'll say that I've had a very normal conversation with Tekkaman over AIM and we didn't accuse each other once in that conversation. Brownies for everyone! I have little more say for my defense as Tekkaman when he was being trialed. I'd still like to mention, however, that the reason I didn't say what role I was playing was because it's in the rules of the official game that you don't tell [i]anyone[/i] your role. Only the Mafia members can tell each other their role (well, they're the only ones awake so they just see each other) as they need each other to vote off members. That keeps the mysterious fun in the game. It's slightly disappointing to see that people obviously didn't keep their roles for themselves and that it's now being used as an argument as to why I would be Mafia, but oh well, what can you do about it now? Well, vote away to see for yourselves if I'm Mafia or not. Don't be surprised when Sandy posts his verdict message up showing that I was in fact not part of the Mafia. The defense rests, as the defense needs to go buy a pizza, as the defendant needs to eat. Have a good night and lot's of wisdom in trialing me.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 [QUOTE=Boo][size=1] I'd still like to mention, however, that the reason I didn't say what role I was playing was because it's in the rules of the official game that you don't tell [i]anyone[/i] your role. Only the Mafia members can tell each other their role (well, they're the only ones awake so they just see each other) as they need each other to vote off members. That keeps the mysterious fun in the game. It's slightly disappointing to see that people obviously didn't keep their roles for themselves and that it's now being used as an argument as to why I would be Mafia, but oh well, what can you do about it now? [/size][/QUOTE]Actually I?m going to have to disagree with you on this point. White never once said people couldn?t reveal who they are, only as you can see here:[quote name='White][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=DimGray][b]Day 2 - 4:[/b] The most interesting part of the game. This is the time period in which the town has to "discuss" who they think is the mafia. Only the Mafia, the Priest and the Detective can [b]lie[/b]. The townsfolk [b]may not[/b] lie. Once the time limit is up, the next step begins.[/font'][/color][/quote]Those who are townsfolk cannot lie. So it never was a condition that we couldn?t tell others or even send a pm with the card we were sent as White also explained here:[QUOTE=White][COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]Just so nobody can try and use the image URL of the cards I sent via PM to try and prove who they are, I'm posting all four images here as well. :) [center][url]http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5890/2mk0.png[/url] [url]http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2741/aceyc3.png[/url] [url]http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6003/jokerdu2.png[/url] [url]http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6452/kingav5.png[/url][/center] There. Even though the URLs are a bit different, it's still the same image so if someone tries to say "But my URL is the real one!" they could have just re-uploaded it on ImageShack. :whoops: [/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]He deliberately did that to point out that anyone could have just copied the image and sent it to prove they weren?t the mafia when in fact they were. So to say that using that knowledge to accuse you is breaking the rules is incorrect. So perhaps you could clarify your defense as the point you brought up is invalid and does not really prove anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 [color=DimGray]You can now send me your votes if you think [B]Boo[/B] is guilty via PMs. We'll now the results after the holidays, on Tuesday. You can also send more accusations my way. Until Tuesday, it's Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays for the whole Town![/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 [QUOTE=Aaryanna_Mom]Actually I?m going to have to disagree with you on this point. White never once said people couldn?t reveal who they are, only as you can see here: Those who are townsfolk cannot lie.[/QUOTE][size=1]I don't really care if you disagree with me on that point or not, because it are just the rules of the original 'Mafia' game. It wasn't a point of defense, nor do I have any intention of trying to defend myself. But if you really want me to say anything in my defense... I'll take out this AIM quote (SupaLrb is White): [quote][color=blue][b][22:49] SupaLrb:[/b][/color] rofl [color=blue][b][22:49] SupaLrb:[/b][/color] If you were Mafia, you would've killed Tekka long ago[/quote] I don't know why I never came up with the idea to prove my innocence by using quotes too. This one seems rather valid and all. :)[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 [QUOTE=Boo][size=1]I don't really care if you disagree with me on that point or not, because it are just the rules of the original 'Mafia' game. It wasn't a point of defense, nor do I have any intention of trying to defend myself. But if you really want me to say anything in my defense... I'll take out this AIM quote (SupaLrb is White): I don't know why I never came up with the idea to prove my innocence by using quotes too. This one seems rather valid and all. :)[/size][/QUOTE]Boo, we aren?t playing the original ?Mafia? game we are playing on online version tailed to fit this format. White never said you had to know the rules of the original game. He provided the rules we are to follow and I?ve never played the original so how would I know that? I responded to your statement because quite frankly your whole attitude was coming across as we were breaking the rules and it disappointed you that we did so. As if we were too stupid to play the game right. If you really felt we were breaking the rules, why did you wait until now to say something? White never said we had to know the original rules to the game because if he had I wouldn?t have bothered to sign up. I don?t have the game and I wasn?t interested in hunting down the rules, which wasn?t necessary since he provided the rules he expected us to follow. At least the quote you provided is more along the lines of defense. But I?ll be honest here, your attitude is not only annoying, but the ?I don?t care? or ?you?re irritating me? stance is getting old. The game is no fun when the other players have expectations for the others that they don?t even know about. :animesigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 [quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']If you really felt we were breaking the rules, why did you wait until now to say something? [/quote][size=1]Because I didn't know about the other roles being spilled, untill now.[/size] [quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']But I?ll be honest here, your attitude is not only annoying, but the ?I don?t care? or ?you?re irritating me? stance is getting old.[/quote][size=1]Aw.[/size] [quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']The game is no fun when the other players have expectations for the others that they don?t even know about. :animesigh[/quote][size=1]Come on, you got a card in secret so that nobody else would know about it. Didn't it even slightly occur to people that they were ehm... 'secret'? I only mentioned it anyway. It was not meant as defense whatsoever, as it has nothing defensive about it. [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 [quote name='Boo][size=1']Because I didn't know about the other roles being spilled, untill now.[/size][/quote]Fair enough.[QUOTE=Boo][size=1]Come on, you got a card in secret so that nobody else would know about it. Didn't it even slightly occur to people that they were ehm... 'secret'? I only mentioned it anyway. It was not meant as defense whatsoever, as it has nothing defensive about it. [/size][/QUOTE]Come on, your playing a game where the objective is to survive, everyone is going to approach that differently and that includes attempting to form alliances and telling others your stance to throw people off. Everyone approachs the game differently. You may have thought that to not reveal your postition was the best where others might be thinking, I'll try that person and see if we can't work together. Yes you take the risk that they are the Mafia, but if you sit still and do nothing you end up dead. :p Or they could be the mafia, priest, or detective trying to confuse everyone else. (we didn't know that the original rules didn't allow you to reveal your position so that doesn't factor into it here) So in the end it was a misunderstanding in regards to the rules. Which is fine, I'll ignore that part as you have now clarified that it isn't relevant to your defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 [size=1]Great, let's all be happy again. :)[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 [center][IMG]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/SamSandy/mafia2.png[/IMG] [color=DimGray]The Court spoke out their opinions, and found [B]Boo[/B] guilty of charges, ie. the murders of Delta, Sakura and John. As his final words before he was hanged, Boo shouted: "You got me, but you will not find my accomplice before it's too late!" Boo met his fate laughing hysterically. ----------------------------- [IMG]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/SamSandy/mafialogo5copymo3.jpg[/IMG] Another night fell upon the Town, and only the [B]Priest[/B] and the remaining member of the [B]Mafia[/B] were up and awake. Please, both of you, send me the [B]private message[/B]s with the names of your targets now.[/center][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 [size=1]Aw, it was fun while it lasted. XD You got me, but you will not find my accomplice before it's too late! *hysterical laughter before finally choking*. [b]Crowd:[/b] ;_; [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekkaman Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray][QUOTE=Boo][/color][/size][/font][font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]Aw, it was fun while it lasted. XD You got me, but you will not find my accomplice before it's too late! *hysterical laughter before finally choking*. [b]Crowd:[/b] ;_; [/QUOTE][/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]That - right there - shows me that their's no hard feeling between us after all. It was fun playing with you, Boo, but you knew the jig was up.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=gray]= ][/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 [size=1]Yeah, I did. I was surprised enough when I was found Not Guilty in round one. Time to get that banner out of my cut and paste script sig. :P[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 [color=DimGray]And so the long, grueling night was over, and the Town woke up to yet another death - that of [B]Tekkaman[/B]. With their prominent spokesman brutally murdered, the townsfolk gathered to discuss about the killer. Besides asking who did it, they also pondered who would have the guts to make an accusation? [CENTER]-------------------------[/CENTER] Both [B]Aaryanna_Mom[/B] and [B]MistressRoxie[/B] have decided to accuse [B]Katana[/B] for being a member of the mafia. The two of you should now post the reasons for your accusation here, so that Katana can respond to them.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 My own skills at rooting out a member of the Mafia have proven to be fairly useless, but after Boo was found out due to John?s detective work and Tekkaman?s daring accusation, I am inclined to follow in their footsteps as to who the killer is. As you can see here in this bit by John that Tekkaman posted after John was killed: [QUOTE=John] [list=1][*]I'd be willing to bet good money that Roxie is innocent. I've been around her and the boards long enough that I can judge her caliber for something like this, and for her to be Mafia she'd be stretching quite a bit beyond her capabilities for subtlety and wit (not trying to put the kid down lol). Not certain, of course, but I feel pretty good about this. [*]Just to reaffirm, I'd put just as much money on the possibility that Boo is Mafia. And Katana along with him, as well. They've both been giving me increasingly bad vibes from the beginning, and, well, they're too congruent. They post the same amount, say pretty much the same things (usually just their own defense), hell, they even say it the same way usually. I think they're easily our most likely candidates, despite any uneasiness I have about A_M just from not knowing her long enough to judge her.[/list][/QUOTE] He believed that both Boo and Katana were members of the mafia. And in this bit from one of Tekkaman?s final pm?s to me before they too were taken out: [quote name='Tekkaman']Follow John's report first: He said that MistressRoxie wasn't a good enough player to be Mafia, plus, I've talked with her during the beggining; she was the one that backed me up in 'Boo vs. Tekkaman', thus, causing me not to get hanged. No, I believe Katana is the culprit and there's no stopping my reasoning.[/quote]I think his firmness in believing who the remaining member was is what got him killed. If he was wrong, the mafia would have had no reason to kill him. In fact leaving him alive to go after an innocent person would have been the smartest move since he was convincing the rest of us to follow his lead, especially after his success in revealing Boo as a member of the mafia. At that point he would have been helping the remaining mafia member to win. But since he was immediately silenced tells me that the mafia is getting desperate, they had no choice but to silence him. If they did not he would be coming after them. And his death still had the slight possibility of throwing the rest of us into confusion over who the mafia really was. So based on John?s and Tekkaman?s last words and my own reasoning as to why Tekkaman was silenced, I believe that Katana is the remaining member of the Mafia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allamorph Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 [FONT=Arial]In all honesty I generally like to be able to play both sides of the field in this game, both to keep my options fresh in my head and to logically examine either a flawed attack or defense, but in this case, my dear [COLOR=DarkRed]Katana[/COLOR], I'm afraid there's not much I can do for you. Here's the deal. The three players that bothered me from the beginning were you, [COLOR=DarkRed]Ikillion[/COLOR], and [COLOR=DarkRed]Boo[/COLOR]. Obviously [COLOR=DarkRed]Ikillion[/COLOR] wasn't an issue, and I saw that shortly before he was hanged. Or hung. Whichever you prefer. Then we nailed [COLOR=DarkRed]Boo[/COLOR], leaving only you. True, there had already been some discussion about you, but unfortunately nothing I constitute as decent evidence ever came up, to say nothing of data I would have been able to use in public. However, it strikes me that, both in the [COLOR=DarkGreen]Underground[/COLOR]/[COLOR=DarkGreen]Town[/COLOR] and in our terse little communiqué, your statements were always rather insubstantial ? fluffy, if you will. You really never said anything pertinent to the game except to restate another's agruments in slightly different words (with no added original thoughts) or to mention something completely irrelevant, like [COLOR=DarkRed]Delta[/COLOR] being the [COLOR=DakGreen]Detective[/COLOR], when obviously we would have known if that role had been killed. Point being, you're just not giving me enough originality to be convinced. I see more of your personality in your [U]theOtaku[/U] posts than I do here. And I've been watching those.... So, girlie, if you're going to convince me you're clean, you'd better be able to pull one devil of a bang-up job, and preferrably before I'm gone for most of this week. Which'll be by about 10:00 tomorrow morning. Hop hop.[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katana Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 [size=1][color=royalblue]Here's the problem, my dear Allamorph: I'm going to be accused as guilty as it is. Why? Simply because there are merely four players left in the game - myself, yourself, Mom, and Roxie. Two of them are already against me, and I can't vote for or against myself, so thus, what should I do? I'm pleading innocence, but even if I managed to sway your mind, it wouldn't matter because I have two of three against me. Unless I can really be convinced otherwise - and I'd also like to see Roxie's reasons - I'm just going to sit here and wait for my death to come. When you have few people left and most have made of their mind, the game just isn't fun anymore. I request coffee and waffles as my last meal, please.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Faye Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 [color=#9933ff]If you were looking for me to say you were innocent, no luck here. By process of elimination, I think that you are the other mafia. John trusted Tekkaman and Allamorph. Allamorph trusts A_M. Therefore, I trust Allamorph, and A_M by extension, leaving [b]you[/b] in the position of Mafia. Katana, you became extremely flustered and upset when Tekkaman accused you of being Mafia in the underground thread. Tekkaman accuses [b]everyone[/b] of being mafia, and no one else is getting upset about it. I wasn't even hurt by it, and promptly allied with him shortly after the first incident. But you were clearly flustered by his accusations. And although I haven't spoken to you since the beginning of the game, you were also the only one at the time who didn't want to talk about it. We avoided the subject for a long time, and when I finally brought it up, you wanted to switch gears. As Allamorph has said, your responses have not been substantial enough to convince me that you are not the other mafia.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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