"In Whom We Trust."

[Nerdsy]

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I myself dont care about the words "In God We Trust" because God can be used for anything religion. [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[COLOR=deepPink]Not all religions believe in a god. Certain branches of Buddhism, for one. Siddhartha Gautama (the founder of Buddhism) himself said that the gods that existed aren't gods in the "divine" sense, but that's probably just semantics. Still, he taught that they shouldn't be trusted, so I still count it.

That being said, I understand what you mean.[/COLOR]

[quote name='White][COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]It could be worse. I remember a couple years ago this lady decided she wanted to try and get the Christ in Christmas removed and just make it Xmas. Obviously it didn't go over too well since she had no right doing that, it being a Christian holiday and all. :p[/FONT'][/COLOR][/quote]

[COLOR=deeppink]That wouldn't actually "remove the Christ from Christmas." The "X" in Xmas actually means "Christ."

[url]http://www.starstuffs.com/xmas/xmas.html[/url]

Of course, she probably meant it to.[/color]

[TheShinje]

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But what if it said, "In Alla We Trust" or "In Buddha We Trust"? Then what would be the Christian's point of view? They'd want that gone too. No matter what deity you label this phrase as, it will have someone disliking it and wanting it removed. That's just how it is.[/quote]
[color=crimson] The thing to remember here is that the word "God" is entirely ambiguous. It isn't the name of the Christian God. Muslims can quote the pledge of alliegance to Allah if they so desire, because a generic term such as "God" can be applied across the spectrum.[/color][/font][/size]

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[size=1][font=Verdana]Does "welcomed anyone of any religion in [b]their[/b] country" refer to after they slaughtered countless American Indians?

Sorry, my father is American Indian, as is his entire side of the family, and I haven't seen one historical record of the European Christians coming here and welcoming the America Indians with open arms, so to speak. Sorry.[/font][/size][/QUOTE]
[color=crimson] Not all the early founders of America were Christians. While some Christians would have acted out of misguided beliefs and killed native americans, their would have been genuine Christians in those days reaching out to native americans. The reason little would be heard about such things is because, like today, these acts are in the minority. I mean, sinc ewhen did the latest Missionary developments in Camnbodia make the headline news?[/color]

[Albert Flasher]

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[color=crimson] Not all the early founders of America were Christians. While some Christians would have acted out of misguided beliefs and killed native americans, their would have been genuine Christians in those days reaching out to native americans. The reason little would be heard about such things is because, like today, these acts are in the minority. I mean, sinc ewhen did the latest Missionary developments in Camnbodia make the headline news?[/color][/QUOTE]
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This is true, but, in those days, "reaching out" meant "building a monestary in the Amerindian lands despite their livid protests and proceeding to basically say 'everything you're doing is wrong, change your ways or you're going to hell' and generally doing everything they could to abolish Amerindian culture." This led to many of these missionaries getting tortured all to **** by the angry Natives. It's not like they weren't warned.

So no, they didn't come here and wantonly slaughter the Natives (Although you could argue that the monestaries helped spread new desieses to the Natives more rapidly), but they certainly did try their damndest to abolish their way of life.

As for the real topic at hand, well, the guy has all the rights in the world to ask for them to change the Pledge. I mean, I think it's a total waste of time and generally just petty as hell, but I can understand why he wouldn't want to have to swear allegance to a god if he himself is an athiest. Personally, I'd be more opposed to swearing allegance for the country then the god, but that's another matter altogether...[/COLOR]