Sakura Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 [color=navy]I actually quite like that idea. Maybe including winning the other challenges. Another thing to consider is how many lines are we devoting to give for our names? I was just thinking maybe we can put all our names in during the chorus, since it is repeated, while the others can talk about the challenge or whatnot. Man, it's so sad that I actually know the entire Pokémon song off by heart ><;;[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResplendent Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 [FONT=Tahoma]Haha, I just got an idea but it would probably be pushing it. If we could do the ending song too, we could use our names in place of the pokemons when they start saying em really fast. lol Though there are only 6 of us, heh. Just rambling and thinking out loud :D No worries on memorizing the song...garauntee you the majority of us know it >.>[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 [COLOR=RoyalBlue]I don't have a problem with the song, but Pokemon came out when I was already in College and moving on and not watching anime at the time. But since my friend Mariskah has the CD with the song I'll borrow it from her and listen to it. lol I do have a Pokemon game for the gamecube! Though that's because it came bundled with it and even then that was because my first one died and I had to get a new one. lol[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResplendent Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [FONT=Tahoma]Alright, Zeke will be on GFX duty. She'll take care of the presentation for the song, and anything else that ya feel will enhance our overall outlook. =) Before we start deciding who does what verse or whatever method we should use to get the actual song written, let's decide where our names should be mentioned. We could either include them all within the chorus, or dedicate sections of each verse to us, giving us a miniature description as well. Like for Verse 1, the first 2 lines can be dedicated to myself with a short description of me, maybe talking about me being the captain or what have you. Then the next two lines dedicated to Beth, the next two to Mary, etc. Following this pattern, it leave the last 5 lines of verse 2 open for a collective description of us as a team which will lead into the bridge and final 2 choruses. In this case, the chorus should be something powerful that encompasses our dominance, something clever and truthful. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellerby Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [QUOTE=BKstyles][FONT=Tahoma]Alright, Zeke will be on GFX duty. She'll take care of the presentation for the song, and anything else that ya feel will enhance our overall outlook. =) Before we start deciding who does what verse or whatever method we should use to get the actual song written, let's decide where our names should be mentioned. We could either include them all within the chorus, or dedicate sections of each verse to us, giving us a miniature description as well. Like for Verse 1, the first 2 lines can be dedicated to myself with a short description of me, maybe talking about me being the captain or what have you. Then the next two lines dedicated to Beth, the next two to Mary, etc. Following this pattern, it leave the last 5 lines of verse 2 open for a collective description of us as a team which will lead into the bridge and final 2 choruses. In this case, the chorus should be something powerful that encompasses our dominance, something clever and truthful. [/FONT][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]Sounds good. Dunno if it's necessary to mention you being the captain, though. Then we would have to mention SunfallE was and so on and so forth. Too much work. Anyway, just assign me some lines and as soon as the person before me submits theirs I'll write mine. Also, I think we should put our names in our own lines. Kind of like the DK Rap. :O! Maybe we should to the DK Rap! :P[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResplendent Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [QUOTE=White][COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]Sounds good. Dunno if it's necessary to mention you being the captain, though. Then we would have to mention SunfallE was and so on and so forth. Too much work. Anyway, just assign me some lines and as soon as the person before me submits theirs I'll write mine. Also, I think we should put our names in our own lines. Kind of like the DK Rap. :O! Maybe we should to the DK Rap! :P[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [font=tahoma]I was merely using it as an example to convey what I meant by a brief description. Don't worry, i'm not here to take all the glory ;). So White, Beth, and myself are already good for lyric duty. I'm not sure why Mike hasn't peeked his head in for as long as he hasn't, but if he's willing to do some as well then he can get a part as well. I'm waiting for Mary to reply too if she is willing to do some writing as well. As Sandy said, I want to make sure everyone has a part to play.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [SIZE=1]Like I said, I'm very happy to be on GFX duty but I need a direction to go in. What kind of layout were you thinking, or colours or images to be included? I need a little something to go on. [/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellerby Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 [COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]Something Pokemon-y. Bright colours. Lots of blue (as that's the team colour). Nothing dark or depressing. Go nuts. That's what I think, anyway.[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 [color=navy]Hey, it's sounding good so far. Sorry I'm not very active at the moment. The first few weeks of Uni are already piling up with assignments and the like. I'll try to help out in whatever way I can but no real promises because in my own opinion, I suck at lyrics and poetry type things. But if you need me to do some stuff then I'll do my best.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResplendent Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 [FONT=Tahoma]Alright then, Zeke should be working on our kick ass presentation. Meanwhile time for us to get crackin on the song. I like the idea of the writers doing each other's names to add to the closeness and collectiveness of the team. [b]White[/b] - Go ahead and work on our chorus since you've got some ideas goin and you were anxious to lend your services for the lyrics. Guess you can tackle the bridge as well. I leave it in your hands ;). [b]Beth[/b] - You can take the first 4 lines of verse 1. Include my and White's name in there. [b]Mary[/b] take the last 4 lines, include Beth and Mike. I will take Verse 2 and include Mary and Zeke, as well as the last 5 lines of verse 2 unless Mike shows up around the thread and wants to take this part. Always keep in mind that the words should be compatible with the basic scheme of how the song sounds, doesn't have to be the same exact syllables or rhymes, but it should flow comfortably with the tune. When your done with your part, post it up and we'll put the finished product together when it's all done. Also, Zeke you may post or PM the graphic once you've completed it.[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 [COLOR=RoyalBlue][quote name='BKstyles][FONT=Tahoma][b]Beth[/b] - You can take the first 4 lines of verse 1. Include my and White's name in there. [b]Mary[/b'] take the last 4 lines, include Beth and Mike.[/FONT][/quote]Sorry this has taken so long, but I swear trying to think of lines to fit in a Pokemon song just has me going blank. o_O I did finally think of this: [INDENT]The Titans are the very best Something you will see is true With Matt and White on the case There is nothing we can't do [U] To replace this:[/U] I wanna be the very best like no one ever was To catch them is my real test To train them is my cause[/INDENT] If you guys don't like it or have suggestions on what I could fix, let me know and I'll take another whack at it. ^_~ [B]EDIT:[/B] Thanks for pointing that out Sakura, I actually did think Matt but I guess I typed Mike instead. Opps! Anyway I changed it based on what you suggested. ^_^[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 [color=navy]Beth, just to note you actually have Matt and White's names to deal with. But it's ok since they're both 1 syllable. And I think for that last line you submitted, 'can't' will probably be better than 'cannot' because I dunno, to me it kinda feels like we're squishing that 'cannot' in with the rhythm provided. Sorry I haven't done mine yet. I really can't think of anything and I've got a number of assignments due for uni. But I'll keep thinking about it.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 [SIZE=1]So, I've had a very busy week and not really had time to sit down and make the layout, but I've got a basic idea for you all. [CENTER][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/AzureImi/poke_test.png[/IMG][/CENTER] Now, I was planning on drawing us all out and doing yellow sillhouettes as I've already done up there ^ (Obviously they'd be drawn better). But something else needs to be added to fill the space. I didn't want to go abstract, because that isn't very pokemon-y, but I was wondering if anyone had idea as to what I could do? Also, what should I add in the blue bits down the bottom? I was thinking watermarking some Pokemon themselves. With regards to the white...I was hopping someone knows how to create a table within a table. The blue is a table pattern that I have a code for, but the white was going to be the part our actual lyrics went. (This would all work, right? I'm not completely HTTP literate) So, yes. Comments and suggestions are really needed. [/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellerby Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 [COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]Oh man, Zeke, that's awesome. xD Here's my lyrics for the chorus and bridge:[/FONT][/COLOR] [center][u]Chorus[/u] The Titans! (they have beat them all!) As you can see... When we fight our opponents flee! The Titans! Oooh, they're the best team or at least so it seems. The Titans! (they have beat them all!) A fearless crew... Our record shows this is true. We're so great; you just ask Boo. The Ti-tans! They have beat them all! They have beat them all (yeah). [u]Bridge[/u] They have beat them all. They have beat them all! Yeah![/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResplendent Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 [FONT=Tahoma]The graphic looks great Zeke, though don't trouble yourself with the pokemon shapes as I don't think they're really neccesary. If you do however want to give each of us outlines and you have an image in our head already on how to do that, you can give that a shot. Everything looks very good though. Also, i am unsure on how to place a table within a table. The only thing I can imagine is to place the same coding with different specifications inside of the table that you want to be on the outside, probably where the text goes. Beth and White, great jobs on the lyrics (and Mary is right, we can just replace Mike with Matt since they are both one syllable, or if Mary wants to just add me instead of mike then whatever will work). I should have my lyrics up at the absolute latest by thursday, since i've been working on two papers and studying for an exam all on wednesday. If I have the free time i'll post it earlier, but hopefully we can put everything together by the weekend and have it up in the main thread. Concerning the MP3 of the song, if anyone can find an instrumental w/o lyrics for the theme than we could really use it. If not, we'll have to use a normal copy. I'll report our progress thus far in the main thread, as Sandy wants. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 [COLOR=RoyalBlue][QUOTE=BKstyles][FONT=Tahoma]Beth and White, great jobs on the lyrics (and Mary is right, we can just replace Mike with Matt since they are both one syllable, or if Mary wants to just add me instead of mike then whatever will work). I should have my lyrics up at the absolute latest by thursday, since i've been working on two papers and studying for an exam all on wednesday. If I have the free time i'll post it earlier, but hopefully we can put everything together by the weekend and have it up in the main thread. Concerning the MP3 of the song, if anyone can find an instrumental w/o lyrics for the theme than we could really use it. If not, we'll have to use a normal copy. [/FONT][/QUOTE]I already changed my lyrics to the correct name. ^_~ But more importantly is there anything else you'd like me to do? I can do more if needed. Oh and though I've looked for an instrumental version of the song I have not found one.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResplendent Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 [FONT=Tahoma]I don't think there's much else to do other then to find ourselves a good copy of the song, preferably with no lyrics, but if it cannot be found by anyone (I myself have also had no success in finding one) then we can just as easily use a regular copy. I think Zeke is perfecting the graphic with other details and such, I am unsure. So once that is put up all that needs to happen is for the lyrics to be put in (unless you want to add them before revealing the finished product, Zeke). Here is my section of the lyrics, lemme know what ya guys think :p: [center][u]Verse 2[/u]: From Down Under, we are graced With Mary?s expertise Our newest member, her name is Zeke Her graphics genius is the key Just trust me Our time is now We simply cannot lose Our mighty band will defeat Any team that we will choose. [/center] Now we wait for Mary, so we can put all the verses together.[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 [color=navy]Sorry I still haven't had any time to do my lyrics, even though it's a short portion. I have a lot of assignments due in this week close together. As soon as I'm free I'll try to get time to think of the lyrics and get them in, though it may be at the end of the week.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 [SIZE=1]I'm afraid today is the first day I'm going to have a chance to work on the graphic since I posted the last ideas due to college work, but I've been looking at it and decided that the yellow characters were actually quite ugly, lol. I think the table within a table idea was right, but I had another idea in case that won't work: When the lyrics are finished I could put them directly onto the image in some funky, Pokemon-y font? (readable, of course) But yes, I will make sure the graphic is finished today most definately, and will post it when it's completed. =D The lyrics are great, guys, good work. Y HALO THAR EDIT [CENTER] [COLOR=Navy]LYRICS HERE, LYRICS HERE, LYRICS HERE. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/COLOR] [/CENTER] *crosses fingers* You all happy with a MIDI file? I thought it was pretty decent quality, sooo. [/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Sakura Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [COLOR=Navy]Loving the graphics, Jamie. Especially with the "Gonna beat 'em all". The only thing is I think that Matt's name should be in line with the rest of us, with maybe "Captain" in brackets after? I dunno, it just looks a little odd. But I think it's great, good job. I did these lyrics really quickly, as in, in like five minutes ><. So I'm sorry they're so terrible. My mind is blank and I don't have any more time since I've got assignments to work on. I decided to get them done quickly now because of Sandy's announcement of a due date, at the only time I'd actually have enough time to give it deep thought. Plus Jamie wants to input them into the graphics right? So I had to give enough time for that. Uhm, about the lyrics, I tried to make them so they were kinda connected to Beth's since they're part of the same verse. Apologies again, uh, feel free to change them >.> [CENTER][I]"Come with us and you will find, All we tell are truths. Beth and Mike can take the test, If what you need is proof."[/I][/CENTER] [CENTER][U]Taking Over:[/U][/CENTER] [CENTER][I]?I will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Each Pokemon to understand the power that's inside.?[/I][/CENTER] Oh, and for an announcement ahead of time. [B]I'll be gone next week from Tuesday the 10th of April, to Saturday the 14th without connection (GMT +8).[/B] So if anything happens I'm sorry I won't be of any help during that period of time.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Ellerby Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [B][CENTER]THE TITANS THEME (completed version)[/B] [U]Verse 1[/U] The Titans are the very best Something you will see is true With Matt and White on the case There is nothing we can't do Come with us and you will find, All we tell are truths. Beth and Mike can take the test, If what you need is proof. [U]Chorus[/U] The Titans! (they have beat them all!) As you can see... When we fight our opponents flee! The Titans! Oooh, they're the best team or at least so it seems. The Titans! (they have beat them all!) A fearless crew... Our record shows this is true. We're so great; you just ask Boo. The Ti-tans! They have beat them all! They have beat them all (yeah). [U]Verse 2[/U] From Down Under, we are graced With Mary?s expertise Our newest member, her name is Zeke Her graphics genius is the key Just trust me, our time is now We simply cannot lose. Our mighty band will defeat Any team that we will choose. [U]Chorus[/U] The Titans! (they have beat them all!) As you can see... When we fight our opponents flee! The Titans! Oooh, they're the best team or at least so it seems. The Titans! (they have beat them all!) A fearless crew... Our record shows this is true. We're so great; you just ask Boo. The Ti-tans! They have beat them all! They have beat them all (yeah). [U]Bridge[/U] They have beat them all. They have beat them all! Yeah! [U]Chorus[/U] The Titans! (they have beat them all!) As you can see... When we fight our opponents flee! The Titans! Oooh, they're the best team or at least so it seems. The Titans! (they have beat them all!) A fearless crew... Our record shows this is true. We're so great; you just ask Boo. The Ti-tans! They have beat them all! They have beat them all (yeah). The Titans![/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... TheResplendent Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [FONT=Tahoma]Looks fantastic Zeke, the midi won't play for me for some reason (as I have the plug-in, so i'm not quite sure what the prob is) but I trust it will for Sandy as well as most others. The lyrics look pretty good, the only thing I can see that might be a bit weird about it is how different the two verses are in terms of how the names are mentioned, with one naming 2 in one line and the other giving each 2 lines with the pattern for description being different. Sandy has been quite nit-picky about certain details in the past, which is why I bring it up. It shouldn't be that big of a deal though. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Ezekiel Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [SIZE=1]So, it occurs to me that the MIDI file doesn't actually suit the lyrics. Oh. Bugger it. Otherwise, the lyrics are fantastic, I'm just wondering what we can do about the music now. But as far as I can tell other teams are struggling to find instrumental versions, too.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Sakura Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 [size=1][color=navy]I haven't actually listened to either of the song links provided, so I'm not sure. But I think we should use whichever the music fits best, even if it is the one with lyrics in it. Though it would be best if we could find a purely instrumental one. I don't have speakers at the moment, so if someone would tell me, is the song the version from the Pokemon CDs? I have the Pokemon movie soundtrack (>.>) so I know what the speed and rhythm of that one is, along with the original from the TV show of course. And about the way the names are mentioned in the two verses, I don't think it'll matter too much, because at least mine and Beth's match because they're part of the same verse. Other verses in songs have been known to have such variations so shouldn't be that big of a problem.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Ezekiel Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 [SIZE=1]Just letting you all know that I won't have access to a graphics program from tomorrow until next Wednesday (the 11th). I'll still be able to get online (hopefully, but my dad's internet can be wacky), but if anything visual is needed I won't be able to help out. White's a graphics god, though, so everything will be okay. With regards to the layout, it isn't necessary for me to put the lyrics into the image. It's a table within a table, and if Matt just wants to copy the code from my post and put the lyrics in, we should be good to go. Still not sure what we're going to do about the song, though. Guess we might just have to use one with the lyrics in already.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next Page 7 of 10 This topic is now closed to further replies. Share More sharing options... Followers 0
Sakura Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [COLOR=Navy]Loving the graphics, Jamie. Especially with the "Gonna beat 'em all". The only thing is I think that Matt's name should be in line with the rest of us, with maybe "Captain" in brackets after? I dunno, it just looks a little odd. But I think it's great, good job. I did these lyrics really quickly, as in, in like five minutes ><. So I'm sorry they're so terrible. My mind is blank and I don't have any more time since I've got assignments to work on. I decided to get them done quickly now because of Sandy's announcement of a due date, at the only time I'd actually have enough time to give it deep thought. Plus Jamie wants to input them into the graphics right? So I had to give enough time for that. Uhm, about the lyrics, I tried to make them so they were kinda connected to Beth's since they're part of the same verse. Apologies again, uh, feel free to change them >.> [CENTER][I]"Come with us and you will find, All we tell are truths. Beth and Mike can take the test, If what you need is proof."[/I][/CENTER] [CENTER][U]Taking Over:[/U][/CENTER] [CENTER][I]?I will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Each Pokemon to understand the power that's inside.?[/I][/CENTER] Oh, and for an announcement ahead of time. [B]I'll be gone next week from Tuesday the 10th of April, to Saturday the 14th without connection (GMT +8).[/B] So if anything happens I'm sorry I won't be of any help during that period of time.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellerby Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [B][CENTER]THE TITANS THEME (completed version)[/B] [U]Verse 1[/U] The Titans are the very best Something you will see is true With Matt and White on the case There is nothing we can't do Come with us and you will find, All we tell are truths. Beth and Mike can take the test, If what you need is proof. [U]Chorus[/U] The Titans! (they have beat them all!) As you can see... When we fight our opponents flee! The Titans! Oooh, they're the best team or at least so it seems. The Titans! (they have beat them all!) A fearless crew... Our record shows this is true. We're so great; you just ask Boo. The Ti-tans! They have beat them all! They have beat them all (yeah). [U]Verse 2[/U] From Down Under, we are graced With Mary?s expertise Our newest member, her name is Zeke Her graphics genius is the key Just trust me, our time is now We simply cannot lose. Our mighty band will defeat Any team that we will choose. [U]Chorus[/U] The Titans! (they have beat them all!) As you can see... When we fight our opponents flee! The Titans! Oooh, they're the best team or at least so it seems. The Titans! (they have beat them all!) A fearless crew... Our record shows this is true. We're so great; you just ask Boo. The Ti-tans! They have beat them all! They have beat them all (yeah). [U]Bridge[/U] They have beat them all. They have beat them all! Yeah! [U]Chorus[/U] The Titans! (they have beat them all!) As you can see... When we fight our opponents flee! The Titans! Oooh, they're the best team or at least so it seems. The Titans! (they have beat them all!) A fearless crew... Our record shows this is true. We're so great; you just ask Boo. The Ti-tans! They have beat them all! They have beat them all (yeah). The Titans![/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResplendent Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [FONT=Tahoma]Looks fantastic Zeke, the midi won't play for me for some reason (as I have the plug-in, so i'm not quite sure what the prob is) but I trust it will for Sandy as well as most others. The lyrics look pretty good, the only thing I can see that might be a bit weird about it is how different the two verses are in terms of how the names are mentioned, with one naming 2 in one line and the other giving each 2 lines with the pattern for description being different. Sandy has been quite nit-picky about certain details in the past, which is why I bring it up. It shouldn't be that big of a deal though. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [SIZE=1]So, it occurs to me that the MIDI file doesn't actually suit the lyrics. Oh. Bugger it. Otherwise, the lyrics are fantastic, I'm just wondering what we can do about the music now. But as far as I can tell other teams are struggling to find instrumental versions, too.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 [size=1][color=navy]I haven't actually listened to either of the song links provided, so I'm not sure. But I think we should use whichever the music fits best, even if it is the one with lyrics in it. Though it would be best if we could find a purely instrumental one. I don't have speakers at the moment, so if someone would tell me, is the song the version from the Pokemon CDs? I have the Pokemon movie soundtrack (>.>) so I know what the speed and rhythm of that one is, along with the original from the TV show of course. And about the way the names are mentioned in the two verses, I don't think it'll matter too much, because at least mine and Beth's match because they're part of the same verse. Other verses in songs have been known to have such variations so shouldn't be that big of a problem.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 [SIZE=1]Just letting you all know that I won't have access to a graphics program from tomorrow until next Wednesday (the 11th). I'll still be able to get online (hopefully, but my dad's internet can be wacky), but if anything visual is needed I won't be able to help out. White's a graphics god, though, so everything will be okay. With regards to the layout, it isn't necessary for me to put the lyrics into the image. It's a table within a table, and if Matt just wants to copy the code from my post and put the lyrics in, we should be good to go. Still not sure what we're going to do about the song, though. Guess we might just have to use one with the lyrics in already.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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