Bob Larson Religous Or Insaneous?

[Sojio]

I first saw Bob Larson at work on an Australian show called John Safran v God he seemed at the time to be an absolute loony. He is coming to Australia to convert us the **** and i want to know anyones thoughts on him and his ways.:animesmil

P.S :animeswea I am not trying to have a go at Christians or any religion its just i think people are going too far when it means they are using people in emotional states and often have been for years to prove they have powers its just using people to gain. :animeangr

[2010DigitalBoy]

[COLOR=DarkOrange][URL=http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/dreamtheater/trainofthought.html#7][COLOR=DarkOrange]Or how about an attention grabber? He may not even be for real, just a crazy actor trying to get us all riled up. I bet he's rich too, the bastard. Anyway, people like this are powerless if you ignore them[/COLOR].[/URL][/COLOR]

[Haibara]

I have no idea who this guy is but ya I have no doubt he is rich. I think its all an act really, I don't think they perform actual miracles or anything like that.

[Sojio]

DigitalBoy you are true it is best to just ignore him but i just cant get the thought out of my head of someone going up there and nothing happening to them like if you did it deliberately and just stood there. But his lectures probably cost a crap load lol :animesmil

[Johnny Justjohnny]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]Extremists are, by design, nutters. Wether they're religious extremists or the opposite, anyone who believes so strongly in something that absolutely nothing - not even concrete, absolutely irrefutable proof - could change their mind is an absolute fool. That's just the way it is. [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[Mythologicly]

[quote name='Big Sky][SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]Extremists are, by design, nutters. Wether they're religious extremists or the opposite, anyone who believes so strongly in something that absolutely nothing - not even concrete, absolutely irrefutable proof - could change their mind is an absolute fool. That's just the way it is. [/COLOR'][/SIZE][/quote]

I dont think thats true there can be people who strongly agree in something and not be complete fools.But if he acts like he the greatest thing in the world thin he's nutts. :animestun

[Sojio]

i guess he isn't really and extremist in a sense but he is quite insane as you said earlier.

[TheShinje]

[quote name='Haibara][b]I have no idea who this guy is[/b] but ya [b]I have no doubt he is rich[/b']. I think its all an act really, I don't think they perform actual miracles or anything like that.[/quote]
What leads you to this conclusion given you have no idea who he is?

[quote]P.S :animeswea I am not trying to have a go at Christians or any religion its just i think people are going too far when it means they are using people in emotional states and often have been for years to prove they have powers its just using people to gain.[/quote]
Youre logic fails you, because if you knew anything about Christian preachers, you'd know that they preach the gospel and attribute the supernatural healing and gifts you see on stage to God, not themselves. I'd love to know how he has used people for gain, since he attributes the divine to God and there's no evidence he has lined his pockets immensely from doing this.


[quote][size=1][color=#808080]Extremists are, by design, nutters. Wether they're religious extremists or the opposite, anyone who believes so strongly in something that absolutely nothing - not even concrete, absolutely irrefutable proof - could change their mind is an absolute fool. That's just the way it is. [/quote][/color][/size]
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Would hardcore evolutionists fit into this category? Yuss! ;)

[PWNED]

Father Bob actually isn't trying to convert anyone, he just preaches his message to us; He also runs a church in St Kilda so there goes the thing about his coming here to convert us.

[Sojio]

[QUOTE]Youre logic fails you, because if you knew anything about Christian preachers, you'd know that they preach the gospel and attribute the supernatural healing and gifts you see on stage to God, not themselves. I'd love to know how he has used people for gain, since he attributes the divine to God and there's no evidence he has lined his pockets immensely from doing this.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry if i offended you this forum is only for peoples views and if you have come here to challenge other people and their views that is not the reason. I have made this thread for people to share their views so if you have taken offense i recommend not reading or posting more but its up to you. :animesmil

[QUOTE]Father Bob actually isn't trying to convert anyone, he just preaches his message to us; He also runs a church in St Kilda so there goes the thing about his coming here to convert us.[/QUOTE]

Not that father Bob im talking about the American one whose exorcised John Safran on the last ep. I LOVE FATHER BOB from St Kilda he is soooooo funny and he doesn't care for the people who dont want to listen and he only preaches to those who want to listen he doesnt force his beliefs on anyone not like this American dude. wtf

[Gelgoog Pilot]

Is there a special channel that all of this is happening? I rarely watch anything religious on TV since it doesn't seem worth while, I hardly watch TV as it is. I've never heard of this 'American dude', and I happen to be from there...

[TheShinje]

[quote name='Sojio]I'm sorry if i offended you [b]this forum is only for peoples views[/b'] and if you have come here to challenge other people and their views that is not the reason. I have made this thread for people to share their views so if you have taken offense i recommend not reading or posting more but its up to you. :animesmil[/quote]
You haven't offended me at all. I'm just pointing out the fact that Christian preachers don't use their profile for personal gain (though there may be a few corrupted ones) and that you don't know for sure that this guy has wielded his influence for personal gain, it's all purely speculative and unless you have some form of proof that this is the case, you're just slandering his name.

I'm challenging these views because they're unfactual. You have no proof he uses people for gain and makes millions doing what he does yet yu splash these things around like they're facts. Furthermore you're despising of him seems to stem from these accusations so I'm letting you know that this actually may not be the case.

You didn't expect to create a thread without a dissenting opinion, did you?


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Not that father Bob im talking about the American one whose exorcised John Safran on the last ep. I LOVE FATHER BOB from St Kilda he is soooooo funny and he doesn't care for the people who dont want to listen and he only preaches to those who want to listen he [b]doesnt force his beliefs on anyone not like this American dude. wtf[/b][/QUOTE]
Where did Bob Larson from America force his beleifs onto anyone? John Safran contacted him for his show. This seems to be based on his touring Australia, since when was touring another country with a concert [i]you can decide to go to or not[/i], forcing any beleif on anybody?

[Sojio]

[QUOTE]Where did Bob Larson from America force his beleifs onto anyone? John Safran contacted him for his show. This seems to be based on his touring Australia, since when was touring another country with a concert you can decide to go to or not, forcing any beleif on anybody?[/QUOTE]

ok look i am slandering him for the following reasons he said that Australians have "...fallen into a pit of alcoholism, laziness and forms of the occult..." the bastard. He doesn't have the right to proclaim such things WHAT FORM OF THE OCCULT wheres this Christian belief in equality when this man is just saying that other religions are forms of the occult he deserves to be stripped of his title and i am sure any Australian would think the same.

[Dodeca]

[quote name='Sojio']ok look i am slandering him for the following reasons he said that Australians have "...fallen into a pit of alcoholism, laziness and forms of the occult..." the bastard.[/quote][SIZE=1]Meh, he wasn't far off. If he extended the statement to the whole of modern society, he'd have hit it right on the nail.

Anyway, if [i]that[/i]'s the whole reason that you're bad-mouthing him, I can't see where the 'insaneous' bit came from. Rude might have been more appropriate, but only by a tad. I think... oh, I got it! 'Generalising' for the win!

[quote name='Sojio']he deserves to be stripped of his title and i am sure any Australian would think the same.[/quote][i]'Preacher'[/i] isn't really a title that can be 'stripped', as far as I'm aware. : P[/SIZE]

[Johnny Justjohnny]

[QUOTE=Jeremiah]
[B]I'm challenging these views because they're unfactual[/B]. You have [B]no proof[/B] he uses people for gain and makes millions doing what he does yet yu splash these things around like they're facts. Furthermore you're despising of him seems to stem from these accusations so I'm letting you know that this actually may not be the case.

[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]Oh, the irony...

Anyway, this guy seems like a real crazy. I've read up on him since I last posted, and, wow, what an idiot. Some of the things he says are hilarious, though. Rock music is all satanic, fairy-cake is the food of the devil, etc etc. Anyone who is not 100% xitian is automatically a baby-sacrificing, blood-drinking satanist. Great stuff, really - shame there are people who actually buy that trash. [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[TheShinje]

[quote]He doesn't have the right to proclaim such things [/quote]What about the right to freedom of speech and expression?

[quote]wheres this Christian belief in equality when this man is just saying that other religions are forms of the occult he deserves to be stripped of his title and i am sure any Australian would think the same.[/quote]There is no belief in equality that strethes further than we are all human and have all sinned. The Christian view is that we're saved by the grace of God when we accept Jesus into our lives, those who don't aren't. We are not equal in that sense whatsoever.

By the way, I should make it clear that I don't agree with every view he has expressed. The whole "rock music is the devils music" thing is something the contemporaryt church has moved to distance itself from.

[Gavin]

[SIZE=1]Interesting, most interesting.

Well seeing as nobody has yet bothered to post an actual link to an article about Bob Larson for those of us who are/were ignorant of the man, I think I'll do the honours.

[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Larson[/URL][B]Bob Larson's Wikipedia Article[/B][/url]

Anyway, from reading the above article as well as the few very facts espoused so far in this thread, which has mostly been dedicated to an argument, I think very little of this Bob Larson. From what I can see he's just another extremist televangelist who's got a sordid past and goes off performing spiritualistic stunts of television for his own benefit.

Is he insane ? No, he just seem pathetic to me in that he can't simply be happy with administering a small flock without going abroad and making a idiot out of himself by insulting people over their choices in life, when by his own past, he's got plenty to answer for.

Oh and by the way Sojio people are always entitled to question the validity or bias in any thread that's posted here, it's what comes with the territory. That said Jeremiah, while I do agree that most Christian preachers go about their practices in a decent manner, this fellow does not appear to be one of them.[/SIZE]