Confucius

[Guest NIKI12345]

Well in my social studies we learned about philosophers and what they did so I decided to ask a question myself. What is happiness or what would be the perfect world. It?s on your opinion so don?t worry what others are going to say.

Now to answer my question the perfect world for me would be a world without drama or pain. Without drama it cuts out a lot of problems and people would be more cheerful. Without pain no one would go through a broken heart lies and so forth, but it might lead to other problem. You guys can go against my word and that?s okay that?s what I?m looking for. That is my opinion.

[Baron Samedi]

[size=1]Confucius say "Daydreaming about perfect world number one cause of flogging"[/size]

[The13thMan]

[QUOTE=NIKI12345]Well in my social studies we learned about philosophers and what they did so I decided to ask a question myself. What is happiness or what would be the perfect world. It?s on your opinion so don?t worry what others are going to say.

Now to answer my question the perfect world for me would be a world without drama or pain. Without drama it cuts out a lot of problems and people would be more cheerful. Without pain no one would go through a broken heart lies and so forth, but it might lead to other problem. You guys can go against my word and that?s okay that?s what I?m looking for. That is my opinion.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]In my opinion perfection is different for everybody. In my perfect world sushi falls from the heavens and we all play guitar hero 24/7, but i know many people that hate sushi and have never heard of guitar hero.

So, is perfection possible? Perhaps, as long as one's idea of perfection does not interfere with another's. Unfortunately we know that this is not true. If we all thought the same and had the same vision of utopia in our minds surely we would be there by now. Of course, that's debatable because of other characteristics in human nature, say the imp of the perverse. =D Silly Poe.

Therefore i'd like to say that...maybe perfection is possible for certain individuals. How lucky can a guy get to live a life where perfection is possible!

Aw hell, nevermind.

Later.
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[DeadSeraphim]

[size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]My perfect world is in the grip of a nuclear winter.[/font][/color][/size]

[Allamorph]

[quote name='Peter Griffin]"Haha, you said 'nuclear'! It's [U]nucular[/U'], you dummy, the 's' is silent."[/quote]
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You know, bugger this whole 'perfect world' stuff. I'd like just as much as the next guy, sure, but then, who get's to define what perfect means? As far as I know, there aren't any humans who can claim that right nor delegate it to another. (No comments from [strike]Dead, Baron, or Deathknight[/strike] the Peanut Gallery, please.) I'd rather make the best of what I've got than fantasize about [strike]nuclear winter[/strike] what I can't have. It's much more fun to exist in reality, anyway.

Oh, and "Confucius say: He who runs in front of car is tired; he who runs behind car is exhausted."

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[Xyandar]

Confucius Said "Respect yourself and others will respect you." If everyone could stand by that rule, that would make the world much better. People don't have enough respect for anybody else anymore. We are all judgemental. We see someone doing something or saying something that we don't agree with and we judge. Look at President Bush! Who Doesnt he judge? I am a Canadian and I'm sorry if you like Bush but he is seriously the next Hitler.He is ruining our world by going to war with other countries. Look at the kill count from the war thats been going on between America, Canada and Iraq! As long as people like Bush are leading our countries, this world is not going to survive much longer.

I myself don't agree with our Prime Minister, Steve Harper. He is like Bush's best friend. He's the reason Canada started fighting in this war and now Canada is in the middle of it.

Sorry im leading on with different topics but they all revolve around this 'perfect wprld' we try to imagine. Fact is, this world is too far gone to be perfect. It will never be perfect. Sure in time we can close the hole in the ozone layer, and sure there will be more votes for presidcency so we can have a chance for better presidents and prime ministers,...but the way us humans are, we are too disrespectful towards eachother and towards the Earth itself to make this world better.

With that said, if we HAD a perfect world, I would like to imagine it with no Bush, no Steve Harper, no idiocy for presidency. There would be world peace meaning all nuclear arms would be disposed of seeing as we wouldnt need them and whoever had them would be imposing a threat to everyone else. I dont know.. i cant imagine a perfect world because it can't happen...maybe in the beginning but not now.

[Guest NIKI12345]

[QUOTE=Xyandar]Confucius Said "Respect yourself and others will respect you." If everyone could stand by that rule, that would make the world much better. People don't have enough respect for anybody else anymore. We are all judgemental. We see someone doing something or saying something that we don't agree with and we judge. Look at President Bush! Who Doesnt he judge? I am a Canadian and I'm sorry if you like Bush but he is seriously the next Hitler.He is ruining our world by going to war with other countries. Look at the kill count from the war thats been going on between America, Canada and Iraq! As long as people like Bush are leading our countries, this world is not going to survive much longer.

I myself don't agree with our Prime Minister, Steve Harper. He is like Bush's best friend. He's the reason Canada started fighting in this war and now Canada is in the middle of it.

Sorry im leading on with different topics but they all revolve around this 'perfect wprld' we try to imagine. Fact is, this world is too far gone to be perfect. It will never be perfect. Sure in time we can close the hole in the ozone layer, and sure there will be more votes for presidcency so we can have a chance for better presidents and prime ministers,...but the way us humans are, we are too disrespectful towards eachother and towards the Earth itself to make this world better.

With that said, if we HAD a perfect world, I would like to imagine it with no Bush, no Steve Harper, no idiocy for presidency. There would be world peace meaning all nuclear arms would be disposed of seeing as we wouldnt need them and whoever had them would be imposing a threat to everyone else. I dont know.. i cant imagine a perfect world because it can't happen...maybe in the beginning but not now.[/QUOTE]

Well personaly without Bush the United States would no longer be the United States. It would be another part of the middle East that includes Canada. Not to disagree but my dad is in the Milatary and I have seen some of those unfortunate soldiers who didn't make it and it makes me mad knowing that some people think this war is a waist because if it ment that much to that soldier that he would give up his own life for it then I like to think his sacrafice wasn't a waist. The world will never be perfect if you think about it. Without any problems there would be alot of people out of a job. Like to say if we got rid of the Milatary. Alot of those people would be homeless and many would get desperate and steal to survie. So no matter what we do this world of our will never be perfect. Think about it.

[DeadSeraphim]

[quote name='NIKI12345']Well personaly without Bush the United States would no longer be the United States. It would be another part of the middle East that includes Canada. Not to disagree but my dad is in the Milatary and I have seen some of those unfortunate soldiers who didn't make it and it makes me mad knowing that some people think this war is a waist because if it ment that much to that soldier that he would give up his own life for it then I like to think his sacrafice wasn't a waist. The world will never be perfect if you think about it. Without any problems there would be alot of people out of a job. Like to say if we got rid of the Milatary. Alot of those people would be homeless and many would get desperate and steal to survie. So no matter what we do this world of our will never be perfect. Think about it.[/quote]
[size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]If aa USA without Bush is part of the Middle East, seems you have less than two years to learn Arabic. Get crackin![/font][/color][/size]

[Guest NIKI12345]

[quote name='DeadSeraphim][size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]If aa USA without Bush is part of the Middle East, seems you have less than two years to learn Arabic. Get crackin![/font][/color'][/size][/quote]

Don't worry I'm Turkish so I already know Arabic. I'm prepared.

[DeathKnight]

[quote name='NIKI12345']Don't worry I'm Turkish so I already know Arabic.[/quote]

[color=crimson]What does being Turkish have to do with that? Turkish people have their own language.[/color]

[Guest NIKI12345]

[quote name='DeathKnight][color=crimson']What does being Turkish have to do with that? Turkish people have their own language.[/color][/quote]

Yes but they also share the Aribic language for like reading the Koran=bible. So I know both.

[DeathKnight]

[quote name='NIKI12345']Yes but they also share the Aribic language for like reading the Koran=bible. So I know both.[/quote]

[color=crimson]Interesting, you're Muslim? How many languages do you know?[/color]

[Guest NIKI12345]

[quote name='DeathKnight][color=crimson']Interesting, you're Muslim? How many languages do you know?[/color][/quote]

Well about four but that doesn't mean I speak fluently at all of the like Japeneses. (Sorry bad spelling really tired
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[James]

[font=arial]I think most Turkish people are Muslim, aren't they? Arabic is pretty prevalent in Turkey.[/font]

[Guest NIKI12345]

[quote name='James][font=arial']I think most Turkish people are Muslim, aren't they? Arabic is pretty prevalent in Turkey.[/font][/quote]

Bingo your right, but the Koran and many other religous things in Turky are in Arabic. So you need to learn both.

[DeathKnight]

[quote name='James][font=arial']I think most Turkish people are Muslim, aren't they? Arabic is pretty prevalent in Turkey.[/font][/quote]

[color=crimson]98 percent of the population or something like that is Muslim.[/color]

[Guest NIKI12345]

[quote name='DeathKnight][color=crimson']98 percent of the population or something like that is Muslim.[/color][/quote]

See I like it on here because at school everyone thinks Muslums kill everyone and they think all Muslums do it. So it really shocks them when I tell them I muslum but on here people actually know something about it and to me thats really cool.

[Xyandar]

[quote name='NIKI12345']Well personaly without Bush the United States would no longer be the United States. It would be another part of the middle East that includes Canada. Not to disagree but my dad is in the Milatary and I have seen some of those unfortunate soldiers who didn't make it and it makes me mad knowing that some people think this war is a waist because if it ment that much to that soldier that he would give up his own life for it then I like to think his sacrafice wasn't a waist. The world will never be perfect if you think about it. Without any problems there would be alot of people out of a job. Like to say if we got rid of the Milatary. Alot of those people would be homeless and many would get desperate and steal to survie. So no matter what we do this world of our will never be perfect. Think about it.[/quote]

I agree with what you mentioned about the soldiers giving their lives but.. I think they are getting the wrong confidence... Bush keeps giving updates and plans keep coming but they just send soldiers off and expect the job to get done.. I dont want to seem rude just seems odd.. Not a Bush fan at all... Harper niether lol our prime minister..

[Haibara]

All I know is I don't like Bush and I am against the so called "war". My old Economics teacher used to always joke how because of all the suicide bombings that they will end up killing themselves off and then we won't have to worry about the terrorists and people like that. The way I see it there will never be such a thing as a perfect world because people don't know how to live peacefully together. As Mark Twain had wrote in [I]Letter From the Earth[/I] man is truly the "lower animal." Man is the only animal that deals with war, "the only animal who enslaves." "Man is the only Patriot. He sets himself apart in his own country, under his own flag, and sneers at the other nations". Man is also the "Religious Animal", the only animal with the "True Religion - several of them."

This is my favorite excerpt....

"In truth, man is incurably foolish. Simple things which the other animals easily learn, he is incapable of learning. Among my experiments was this. In an hour I taught a cat and a dog to be friends. I put them in a cage. In another hour I taught them to be friends with a rabbit. In the course of two days I was able to add a fox, a goose, a squirrel and some doves. Finally a monkey. They lived together in peace; even affectionately.
Next, in another cage I confined an Irish Catholic from Tipperary, and as soon as he seemed tame I added a Scotch Presbyterian from Aberdeen. Next a Turk from Constantinople; a Greek Christian from Crete; an Armenian; a Methodist from the wilds of Arkansas; a Buddhist from China; a Brahman from Benares. Finally, a Salvation Army Colonel from Wapping. Then I stayed away two whole days. When I came back to note results, the cage of Higher Animals was alright, but in the other, there was but a chaos of gory odds and ends of turbans and fezzes and plaids and bones and flesh -- not a specimen left alive. These Reasoning Animals had disagreed on a theological detail and carried the matter to a Higher Court."

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]Nature attempts to wax and wane in a balanced fashion. Things are still killed and eaten. Death is still rampant. Creatures still bitterly fight one another to survive. It is not a utopia in comparison to man's workings by any means.

I wasn't aware that our capability to be wildly diverse in ideas made us lesser creatures.[/color]

[Haibara]

[QUOTE=DeathKnight][color=crimson]Nature attempts to wax and wane in a balanced fashion. Things are still killed and eaten. Death is still rampant. Creatures still bitterly fight one another to survive. It is not a utopia in comparison to man's workings by any means.

I wasn't aware that our capability to be wildly diverse in ideas made us lesser creatures.[/color][/QUOTE]

It is true that in Nature creatures are killed, but it is not without purpose. Let us compare Man to a pack of Wolves. During the Westward Expansion in the USA during the 1800s the Bison almost became extinct. For sport men during train rides would shoot randomly at the herds of Bison slaughtering hundreds only to leave the carcasses behind to rot. A pack of wolves on the otherhand will only take down one Bison and leave barely any remains behind (assuming wolves eat Bison of course). Unlike "wild animals" who kill for survival only, Man is known to kill because they can. The fact that Humans are as DeathKnight put it "wildly diverse in ideas" only makes it more difficult for Man to accept others and live peacefully. In my own opinion of course.

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]Nature attempts to be balanced. Mankind, in theory, is capable of learning how to balance out his actions if they wish. Imperfection implies there is room for growth and hopefully growth will happen.

The negative qualities of sentience which allow us the capability discuss these matters I find more than tolerable. There is beauty in nature but there is beauty in man as well.[/color]

[Guest NIKI12345]

[quote name='Haibara']It is true that in Nature creatures are killed, but it is not without purpose. Let us compare Man to a pack of Wolves. During the Westward Expansion in the USA during the 1800s the Bison almost became extinct. For sport men during train rides would shoot randomly at the herds of Bison slaughtering hundreds only to leave the carcasses behind to rot. A pack of wolves on the otherhand will only take down one Bison and leave barely any remains behind (assuming wolves eat Bison of course). Unlike "wild animals" who kill for survival only, Man is known to kill because they can. The fact that Humans are as DeathKnight put it "wildly diverse in ideas" only makes it more difficult for Man to accept others and live peacefully. In my own opinion of course.[/quote]

Ok my turn. Without balence in nature it will be even more problems then there is today. Man is the one who inbraced the beauty of nature and expressed its feelings in art. In a few religons they kill animals not just for fun, but yes also for survival. Lets say you were on the urge of death and there was a big food shorteged because of over population and people feeling that animals should not be killed. You would need to kill to survive and there are still people out there today that go through the urge of dieing but needing to suport their family. You know what if you feel that man is so imperfect as many are you perfect yourself then help and chang the world just don't sit there and complain about it. Make a difference if not your just one of those people who are eating all of our food and surely but slowly you are a killer yourself even if you have done nothing. Doing nothing just kills. So think about what I have just said I think this might help with the whole imperfection thing. Or this will slove nothing.