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[size=2]How do you think your life would be different if you were the opposite gender?[/size]
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[size=2]Now, to uncomplicate things, don't go rewriting your past. Take your current situation, and assume that you are the opposite gender. There wasn't some strange transformation that you are aware of. You must pretend that you have always been the opposite gender, yet still ended up in your current situation.[/size]
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[size=2]First of all, I would probably have to get up an hour earlier than normal, because I would actually have to spend time getting ready to go to my classes. I would have to make my hair look nice, and probably put on make-up. I would also have to start exercising regularly, because it would be less acceptable for me to weigh as much as I do. I'd probably have to shave my legs and armpits, and pluck my eyebrows. At college, my routine probably wouldn't change too much.[/size]
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[size=2]Ech, this is ridiculously difficult! I honestly have [i]no[/i] idea what it would be like to be a girl. Instead of calling this a failed experiment and opting not to post the thread, however, I'll diverge from what I originally intended.[/size]
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[size=2]What is it like being a girl? I'll try to set up a background for comparison by saying what it's like (for me) to be a guy.[/size]
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[size=2]Other guys,[/size]
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[size=2]Go ahead and talk about what it's like being a guy for yourself.[/size]
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[size=2]Ok, so I wake up in the morning, and if I don't smell or look bad, I don't think I need a shower. I may or may not shave my face, depending on whether I remember. I don't do anything with my hair, because I simply don't care. I don't exercise beyond my daily routine of walking to and from classes, but I will if my girl tells me to. I wear the same pants for days at a time, because it's hard to tell jeans apart. It's cold, so I'll wear the same shirt if I can wear a coat over it. I don't need to actively look for girls, but many of them dress in a way that catches my eye. I'm never afraid to speak up about something, and I am never demure. If I itch somewhere, I scratch. I burp and fart, but try not to do so around people. If I do, I don't get too embarassed. I don't socialize very much.[/size]
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[size=2]So, why do I think these things are significant? I think girls (in general) care much more about their appearance than I do. This is evident by how all the girls around me look...prepared. There are also only two types of girls. Those who don't control their weight, and those who do. There are no intermediates that I can see. I just assume girls change clothes regularly, because they're more used to being noticed. I don't meet many girls with a forceful personality, they mostly exude some amount of deference. Girls seem to control their body movements more precisely, more fluidly, and are not apt to contort their bodies to reach some pesky itch. Most girls seem kind of chatty, at least they talk more than I do, and usually when I talk to one of them, they initiate and guide the conversation.[/size]
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[size=2]Well, that's all I've got for now. This thread can also be used to discuss anything related to gender, but I thought it would be nice to set up a base for discussion, just in case nobody else comes up with something.[/size]
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[size=2]Also, if I'm horribly wrong in any or all of my assumptions, please do tell me. I love to learn new things, especially when they deal with human nature.[/size]
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[COLOR=#656446][quote name='Adahn][size=2']First of all, I would probably have to get up an hour earlier than normal, because I would actually have to spend time getting ready to go to my classes.[/size][/quote]Or you could be like me: wake up at pretty much the same number of minutes before class and arrive late.

Really, Adahn, not all of us university ladies fuss about our hair and makeup everyday. When I'm feeling really ****** or I have more important things to do than check how I look, I just waltz into class in my unprettified form. XP

I honestly do not understand why you feel that women pay more attention to how they look than men do. Perhaps it's because we're living in really different environments,yeah? Over here, men are very particular about their (physical) appearance. Of all my male acquaintances, I know a good number of them have these kits packed with moisturizers, hair mousse and facial wash. It's also not uncommon to see men getting manicures and pedicures and facials and all that jazz.

I think if I become a man here, in my city, the only thing that will change is the way I dress. Everything else, from my shopping habits to my daily routine, will probably stay the same.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=DarkOrange]Well, being as how I'm a guy and all my friends are girls (of all different kinds, too!) I've noticed some differences.

NOTE: As a girl r a guy, though, I am not your average person, but then again most otakuites aren't very normal. I speak not for all of men, nor for all of the guys on this board, but I think if anyone could substitute me in my comparison, it's (some of) you guys.

Firstly, I care not about how I am perceived. I own about a weeks worth of Tshirts and a week worth of pants, and I don't take the time to plot them. When I wake up (at 4:30 usually, but for this I'll use my equally frequent timing of 30 minutes before I gotta leave for school. ) I take a shower (well, for me it's once every 2 days), toss on my clothes (they're all black, matching is no object), run a brush through my hair (longer than yours, lol) and get to steppin. The reason for this uncaring towards my look? No one's staring, lol. I could be all dressy and stuff, but it's not going to help me in the end.

Now, mind you, I've never had to pay much attention to my weight as I'm still young and have all that energy. I've never gotten fat (I'm 5'8" and weigh about 150lbs.) but the minute I get to that point, there's no telling what will happen. Of things are like they are now, with me sitting around playing MMOs 90% of my life, I'll be a fatass.

Now, the girls that I know care a lot about how they look. When confronted with this, girls usually say something like "well, I just... like..." and attempt to downplay it, but there's no denying. Girls care about how they look, because it makes them. I have sat with 'popular' girls, 'goth' girls, and everything inbetween, and I have never found a group of girls who did not, at some point, start talking about clothes. Girls who are thin want to keep it that way, and bigger girls wish they were thin.

Now, I can see where this ogic comes in. I adire girls for their attention to self image and accesorizing. For a long time I've looked with ardor at the more fashionable girls (and I don't mean 'summer catalog' ********, I mean girls with real, creative style) and though 'wow, that's awesome'. I think if I were to be a girl, as was your first topic, I would pay a lot more attention to my look ecause I would feel more like I could. As a guy, I try to incorporate those things into my artwork and writing instead, so that I can still have those flashy feelings.

As for what you said about their control over conversations, I know what you mean. This is partly, though, because for guys it's hard to read girls, while they can read each other perfectly. For instance, in a one-on-one conversation with a girl, if a topic dies, I always wait for them to speak, because I don't know what to say. It's hard to read what they want to talk about, so I don't know what to say.

Meanwhile, in a group of girls a conversation never ends because they always have the next topic on-hand and know how to portray or respond to it. When one topic dies, another one has already begun.

It goes a lot like that for guys as well, except we do not seek condfirmation as much. While girls share opinions and conformations with each others through a sort of system of checks and balances, guys just assume that they are on the same page as others in their group.

For instance, when my mom talks to me about something she has spoken about before to add more onto it, she always reviews what she said before, like a recap, before continuing her story. Meanwhile, my dad and I (who are both psychology and theology buffs) can pick up a conversation we ended two weeks before after the same period.

what I don't know about girls is what they do in their alone time, but I can only assume it's not much different than guys. Our genders are fairly alike when we know what makes them different.[/COLOR]

[quote name='Delta']Over here, men are very particular about their (physical) appearance. Of all my male acquaintances, I know a good number of them have these kits packed with moisturizers, hair mousse and facial wash. It's also not uncommon to see men getting manicures and pedicures and facials and all that jazz.[/quote]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]While growing in number, these types of guys are very much a minority.[/COLOR]
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[color=crimson]Well I keep an alright appearance about myself. Shave every day or every two days. Shower pretty much every day, skipping a day here and there when I have no outstanding plans. I don't comb my hair but I wash it regularly and it looks alright without much attention to it. I wear clean clothes everyday [shirt, pants, everything] just because I feel kind of nasty wearing dirty clothes lol. I just keep myself presentable unless there's a formal occasion I need to look really spiffy for.

I exercise every other day. I lift weights, do a significant amount of ab work outs and I'm going to start running regularly. I don't go to a gym, I own a couple of 20 pound weights [the only thing I've bought from Wal*Mart in two years] and the abs/running don't require any equipment so far. This exercising is mainly because of health reasons- a couple of years ago when I was very overweight I had the double header of pre-diabetes and non-alcoholic steatohepatitis. Nothing scares you into caring about your health like the idea of your liver dying. After losing a significant amount of weight my liver function tests were normal and as far as I can tell my tolerance of glucose has evened out. Even with that I don't Aside from that, yeah, I'd like to look slim. Not going to go out and try to get a six pack or anything, just trim down.

Personality wise I wouldn't say too many of my traits are from being a guy- I know plenty of loud women for example, lol. Maybe my love of military history or weapons could be said to be kind of a guy thing but I'm sure there are a minority of women into it too. Conditioning into gender roles has affected me yeah but human beings are quirky enough to still be individuals if allowed the chance. Me, I talk. I don't really mind if you don't want to listen, I'm going to talk. I use humor. I rant. I rave. I'm serious at times, not at others. I know women who share these traits. I know men who don't. Just depends on the person.

The opposite sex.. well girls are stereotyped enough, I don't really need to add onto that. I think there is some pressure from society at large, a fixation on 'beauty' that might affect them more than they'd care to admit. There's nothing wrong with attending to how you look but I know several women who are very, very pretty physically and mentally yet their self-esteem is totally non existent. It's hard to watch, really. Very hard to watch. Not to say that society is totally to blame for this but I doubt it helps.

For some reason when thinking about if I was a girl I'd imagine I'd have a huge rack. Not sure why.[/color]
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Gender is a social construct, not some kind of huge, inbuilt, all-consuming factor that negates everything else that makes you who you are. If you have a strong personality, it'll come through regardless of your physical sex.

To me, it makes a lot more sense to find the answer to this question by asking how you personally might be affected by social expectations for the opposite sex--as opposed to saying "this is what girls do" as if they're a different species whose behavior can be summed up with such simplistic generalizations. What do girls do when they're alone? Well, gee, it varies.

EDIT: Yeah, Ken said it better. :p

~Dagger~
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[COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]As a guy, I strive to impress girls. Therefor I spend quite some time getting ready for school. I wake up, have a shower (every morning, whether I need it or not), eat, brush my teeth (twice a day), spray on some tag, shave if necessary, put on some [i]fresh[/i] clothes and throw on my hat (I have longer hair so I don't bother combing it, I just put my hat on while my hair is wet and it combs my hair for me).

If I'm going out with a girl I take a shower about an hour before (giving my hair time to dry), I brush my teeth (and sometimes floss if I've eaten recently), and I chew some gum to make my breath smell nice. This may all sound very feminine but it's not really. I don't plan my outfits, I don't do my hair nicely, and I don't wear uncomfortable clothes for the sake of fashion (though I don't go walking around in ratty jeans and shirts either).

I like looking and smelling good. I like being complimented on how I look by girls because they have good taste in fashion (of course). I workout regularly (as of Grade Ten) because I realized how much junk I ate. Also, if I ever had to go swimming around girls, I don't want to be flabby (I've got fast metabolism, so that doesn't really happen anyway, but still).

Girls spend a lot of time getting ready for the sake of looking good for strangers. I think it's only fair we spend at least a little time to look good for them in return. :)

That's my morning routine. I don't think it would be a whole lot different as a girl.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Dagger]Gender is a social construct, not some kind of huge, inbuilt, all-consuming factor that negates everything else that makes you who you are. If you have a strong personality, it'll come through regardless of your physical sex.

To me, it makes a lot more sense to find the answer to this question by asking how you personally might be affected by social expectations for the opposite sex--as opposed to saying "this is what girls do" as if they're a different species whose behavior can be summed up with such simplistic generalizations. What do girls do when they're alone? Well, gee, it varies.

EDIT: Yeah, Ken said it better. :p

~Dagger~[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]I could have gone into the complexes of societarial influence, but all of us are comppletely aware of that. The qestion was 'what' not 'why'.

And anyway, I said the genders were mostly alike. I can't help but sound strange -- this is how my mind documents observations.[/COLOR]
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[color=dimgray] If I were a guy I'd have more power in pretty much every situation ever. And I could eat more stuff and get away with it. P:

But getting ready in the morning takes ten minutes for me, so my morning routine probably wouldn't change. My hair is really managable and the only makeup I put on is a little eyeliner. And I'll say it, showering every day is gross to me (except washing your face, which I do religiously). My hair just looks better if I just do it every other day.

And the whole "girls take two hours to get ready in the morning!" thing is so overdone. If you have to take two hours out of a day to make yourself pretty, I mean. :/

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[SIZE=1][FONT=Lucida Console]For some reason, I don't feel as if life would be too much different for me if I were a girl. Not that I'm really girly or anything, but I don't think my life would be all that drastically different than it is now.
I wake up an hour and a half before my classes for the sake of my daily routine. I take a shower and wash my face (every single day, I absolutely loathe feeling dirty, even the slightest bit), brush my teeth, put on deodorant, put CLEAN clothes on, blow dry, brush, and straighten my hair, put moisturizer on my face because the cold air tends to make it slightly dryer than I would prefer it to be, eat breakfast, etcetc.
I already think I'm fairly fashion savvy, though I don't get to show it as much as I'd like to. (probably slightly due to the fact that I'm a guy)
I have just as much fun buying new clothes as any girl would, haha.
I kind of carry myself in a slightly effeminate way, I guess with the way I use my hands and walk and such.
Despite all of that, I am most definitely a straight male and I am very attracted to the opposite sex. (well, at least some of them. I'm pretty picky with what I like in a girl, but that's a completely different topic)
Life would probably still be a totally different story if I was a female. I don't even want to think of going through the things girls go through. Drastic mood swings, child birth, etcetc.
I think I'm perfectly content being a guy. Hahaha.[/FONT][/SIZE]
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I share a similar routine as [b]White[/b] for the same exact reasons. I do, however, go one step further and pick my clothes out. I just like to look as stylish as possible, more than likely because I'm an artist, I like to express myself at any given opportunity and treat clothing/fashion as such. Call it nerd-hip hop-slacker, if anything.

I spend alot of time in the morning assuring that my appearance is up to par because I like to look good for the ladies. It is apparent to me that women don't appreciate dirty dirty little boys. So I try to stay clean and fresh and smelling nice, and looking good. This has helped me in my romantic life drastically, as I usually have a girlfriend at any given time (including now). And while it's true that relationships shouldn't be based on appearance, that doesn't mean that it your appearance shouldn't matter at all. First impressions are everything, and your appearance, whether you like it or not, is always your very first impression.

Yeah, I may be a bit feminine, but I honestly don't care.

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[SIZE=1]I'm in the same boat as Mike and White in that I'm absolutely fanatical about my personal hygiene and I think a lot of guys nowadays are the same, girls don't like guys who look dishevelled and smell awful, so there's nothing feminine about taking care of yourself. I mean seriously, masculinity is in action not appearance.

If I were female, I don't really know what would be different, I'd probably follow the same routine and be into a good deal of the same things, heck the only difference would probably be the physical ones. That said, like Ken if I were female I'm pretty sure I'd be well endowed, it just seems natural that's all.[/SIZE]

[quote name='DeathKnight][color=crimson']For some reason when thinking about if I was a girl I'd imagine I'd have a huge rack. Not sure why.[/color][/quote]

[SIZE=1]Oh yeah sure you don't Ken.[/SIZE]
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[quote name='White][COLOR=DimGray][FONT=Tahoma]I like looking and smelling good. I like being complimented on how I look by girls because they have good taste in fashion (of course).[/FONT'][/COLOR][/quote]
[size=1]Ditto on that one.

I've succumbed to more than a few gender stereotypes that have shape who I am, so I assume if I were a girl I would be a stereotypical one. And I think I'd be a maneater, w00t.[/size]
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[font=arial]I don't think life would be all that different if I were female...at least in terms of grooming and such. I don't really think it comes down to a male/female thing.

I mean...I am fairly particular about personal hygiene and clothing for example. I often update my clothes (money and time allowing) and I pay particular attention to what I wear at work. I am always wearing cologne (my two current favourites being Issey Miyake Blue and Kenzo Air). And I shower at least once per day - if I've had a very rough or busy day, I will also have a quick shower when I get home (especially in summer!)

I am sure that perceptions of me would be different if I were female, but it's very hard to judge how they would be different...or [i]who[/i] would have that different perception. I have always grown up around powerful women and I work in a company that is run pretty much entirely by women. So I have never viewed women differently from men in general, especially in terms of professional capability and so on - this is probably evidenced by the number of female staff we have had on OB over the years.[/font]
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[QUOTE=Retribution][size=1]Ditto on that one.

I've succumbed to more than a few gender stereotypes that have shape who I am, so I assume if I were a girl I would be a stereotypical one. And I think I'd be a maneater, w00t.[/size][/QUOTE]
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Yeah... I think I'd be the same. If I were a girl, I wouldn't be the one you'd wanna bring home to your parents. [/color][/size]
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[quote name='Adahn][size=2]How do you think your life would be different if you were the opposite gender?[/size][/QUOTE]For the most part most of who I am wouldn?t be any different, as far as my personality goes. Though I suppose I would be attracted to guys instead of girls since I?m straight. And then the more obvious one of being able to have children instead of simply being the father. Not that being the father is simple, but the idea of being pregnant and then giving birth? That I can?t even begin to imagine. [QUOTE=Adahn][size=2']Go ahead and talk about what it's like being a guy for yourself.[/size][/quote]I really don?t think it?s all that different than what a girl would do I get cleaned up [yes I really am one of those guys who showers daily, uses deodorant and even cologne] and I like to look nice so I have slightly nicer shirts than the standard t-shirt, though I still wear jeans. I have been called a romantic by my friends, I am not into sports but rather the performing arts, specifically more along the classical aspect and not rock concerts.

I?m not even sure how it?s any different than it would be for a girl other than the more obvious one like I already mentioned. The physical differences that is. Unless I knew I had been a guy before, even the different social expectations would seem natural to me.
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[COLOR=DarkOrange]I find it funny how we all say we wouldn't be much different, and yet we have absolutely no idea what things would be different. I don't think it's even possible for either gender to say.

We'll never know, lol. I hate questions like this >_<

Also, to those who think only a few things would be different, take more things into consideration. PMS, pregnancy, etc. It's all gotta effect you somehow.

Because Adahn has set this up where we live in the same exact situation, it makes things a little easier, because we don't need to worry that we know we'd be different.

If I were a girl, I might be different in some ways, but I thik I'd be the same personality-wise. Still weird, still strange... but also a lot more flirtatious. I think I'd be more touchy-feely.

Also, if we're assuming I keep my personality, I'd still be attracted to girls, right? So I'd have that whole thing going on/dealing with. There's no way of knowing what that would be like.

I know I'd pay more attention to how I dress/look, because of what I've said above. In this and my first post.

And that's all I can determine from my little knowledge.[/COLOR]
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[color=#4B0082]If I were female I would wear my hair in a single braid at times, in addition to the usual ponytail. I might even tie it off with a pretty little ribbon. I'd wear skirts. Given the opportunity, I'd probably cosplay as Aeris from FFVII. . . . That is all.

Really, I can't see my personality or mannerisms being much different if I were a girl instead of a guy. (Heck, I'm already unashamedly using a Cardcaptor Sakura banner/avatar set.) I'm definitely not the stereotypical "manly man" that the media seems to love, and I like it that way just fine. Even my gaming and anime hobbies I picked up from my older brothers, so I doubt those would be any different.

As for hygiene, the start of my day usually goes like this: I get up, put on clean clothes -- though if I haven't done anything to get them dirty, I'll wear my black jeans for 2-3 days -- and deodorant. Usually whatever is on top of the stacks of clothes in my dresser is what goes on; I rarely plan what I'm going to wear just for the sake of appearance. I have long hair, so I spend a few minutes brushing it out straight and tying it back into a ponytail. After that I wash my face (acne sucks, I even had to get a prescription to keep it from scarring) and shave if I'm not being lazy or if I'm going somewhere that day where I want to look good. And that's about it

Though in case you're wondering, I tend to take my showers in the evening (unless it's the weekend), once every 2-3 days unless I've gotten particularly sweaty/dirty. When it comes to showers, I just ask myself the questions, "Do I smell and/or feel dirty?" and, "Is my hair greasy?" If one of them comes up as, "yes," then I shower.

I'm not very particular about my appearance, and I honestly don't care what most people think about it. I do enough to keep myself happy with how I look and that's all.[/color]
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[size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]I would **** indiscriminately. I would make myself look good, and abuse this knowledge at every conceivable possibility. I would be a slut. I would have a bad reputation in university. I would eventually settle down and become a soccer mum in a volvo. I would never use my art degree. I would divorce in my early forties, and learn to 'live again' once free of my husband. I would be a mother of two children, one of which is obviously favoured over the other even though I claim to love them equally. I would die in a car crash at age 60, having momentarily lost control when changing the radio station.[/font][/color][/size]
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[font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black][quote name='DeadSeraphim] [font=Palatino Linotype][size=2]I would **** indiscriminately. I would make myself look good, and abuse this knowledge at every conceivable possibility. I would be a slut. I would have a bad reputation in university. I would eventually settle down and become a soccer mum in a volvo. I would never use my art degree. I would divorce in my early forties, and learn to 'live again' once free of my husband. I would be a mother of two children, one of which is obviously favoured over the other even though I claim to love them equally. I would die in a car crash at age 60, having momentarily lost control when changing the radio station.[/size'][/font][/quote][/color][/size][/font]
[font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black]DeadSeraphim has spoken and I, for one, would feel the same way if I was a woman, hehe.[/color][/size][/font]

[font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black]Good shite.[/color][/size][/font]
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[SIZE=1]Following hot on the heels of Ken and Gavin, I have a really strong feeling I'd have big beautiful boobies if I were born a girl. And, being true to myself I'd be (quite literally) doing nothing all day but playing with them, because that's the type of guy (or girl, whatever) I am.

I normally tend to take like half hour getting ready and more like 2 hours if I'm going somewhere important and need to take a bath (yes, I have no shower in my house and it's like living in the stone-age ¬_¬). Takes me about 10 minutes to spike my hair up (or less if I've just had it cut) and I normally just pick whatever clothes are in my drawers. I bathe when necessary, normally every 1-2 days and I only tend to wear aftershave if I'm going somewhere I know I'll be in the company of the lady-folk.

Despite how manly I normally am, I'm of the impression that I easily play the part of a womanly-woman. It's quite interesting to think about crazy stuff like this.

*drools over the thought of playing with big boobies*[/SIZE]
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[font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black][QUOTE=Andrew] Following hot on the heels of Ken and Gavin, I have a really strong feeling I'd have big beautiful boobies if I were born a girl. And, being true to myself I'd be (quite literally) doing nothing all day but playing with them, because that's the type of guy (or girl, whatever) I am.[/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black]*drools over the thought of playing with big boobies*[/QUOTE][/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black]Wow... really?? I can't believe i'm saying this but I think i'd do the same. <.<[/color][/size][/font]
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Yeah, If I had to say right now that I kept my current state of mind and was that of the opposite sex, I would be quite gay. First off, I'd take about thirty minutes out of my day each morning to look at myself in the mirror and giggle. More than likely, I'd also play with my boobs, lets be honest here...I like them.

I want to also consider the fact that was stated that I'd have NO idea just HOW different life would be. It would be foolish to seriously think on this topic and leave out the PMS and other such female issues. I'm sure I'd be shocked by it, and no doubt be affected mentally the same way as most girls are now. Having a baby would be serious business but I wouldn't pass that up for the world. Women have it lucky that way. They have a far deeper connection to their children than the father. I feel right now that I might love my children dearly once I have them...but there might still be that feeling that I was somewhat isolated. So, I would love to be the opposite sex for the birthing experience and the experiences following.

Dating wise...I'd probably end up being just as picky as women are (no offense intended to anyone reading this ladies). It seems practical since I know how idiotic guys can be. I'd love to think I'd be nice to the wierd boys and ignore the 'jocks' but, as stated, I'd really be just more cautious.

I think it would definetly e interesting to experiment, but I'm just fine being the gender I am presently. Not too bad of a topic...allows for some pretty strange and humorous banter...and I love banter.
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[QUOTE=Tekkaman][font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black][/color][/size][/font]
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[font=Palatino Linotype][size=2][color=black]Wow... really?? I can't believe i'm saying this but I think i'd do the same. <.<[/color][/size][/font][/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]Id probably take pictures of mine for reference.[/COLOR]
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[quote name='ForgotteÑ-HerÖ][COLOR=Blue']Id probably take pictures of mine for reference.[/COLOR][/quote]
[size=1][color=indigo][font=arial]Idiot. If you were born a woman, and had always been a woman, [i]your own breasts wouldn't be a sexual object for you[/i]. Do you take photos of your balls everyday? Did you get off from fondling and looking at them? No. Use some common sense.[/font][/color][/size]
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