Definitions that deserve words?

[2010DigitalBoy]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]I figure this ought to be an interesting discussion. This is a place to discuss words that ought to exist. If there is a definition that lacks a word, do you think it should have one? Support this idea - after all if this is getting it's own word, it has to be a worthy concept. Also, if one of the suggestions actually does have a word, kindly point this out to the poor fool who didn't know it >_>

Anywho, I came up with this when I was thinking of a thing that I cannot easily describe, namely since i don't think it has a word. Basically, it's like when you think of something, and it brings a certain something to mind that is connected above other connected things.

For instance, when you think [B]'McDonalds' [/B]you probably think '[B]Ronald McDonald' [/B]and when you think [B]'Ronald McDonald' [/B]you think [B]'McDonalds'[/B]. Now, when you think of the [B]Ham Burgler[/B], you think of [B]McDonalds [/B]as well, but not as much in vice-versa. I hope this makes more sense than I'm deriving from it >_< (and yes I'm aware that this analogy is positively begging for stupid replies)

Anyway, if this phenomenon already has a word, then just ignore me >_> As for the word i would use for it... I have no idea. I'm sure theres some series of latin words that could be ued to create a reasonable term.[/COLOR]

[TheResplendent]

[FONT="Tahoma"]I can assure you most confidently that it will be very difficult to find a "definition" or a concept of some sort that cannot be explained in a word that is known to man somehwere. Being an appreciator of words myself, I often tell many of my friends when they are in need of help with writing assignments or speeches many different synonyms or alternative ways of stating something with the same exact or similar meaning to what they are intending to say. It's possible that there could be a concept that is best explained in a series of words rather than one word, it's done so because it's easier this way and is more flexible since many of these concepts can be explained in different manners. For instance "First Degree Murder" / "Second Degree Murder". Both murder, but it's important to differentiate and can only be done in three words, not one.

What you seem to be talking about in your example is word association, not so much having to do with definitions. It's a task used by counslers and therapists a lot where they will say a series of words and you will say what comes to mind when you hear it, most of the time the most obvious answer they are attemping to prompt out of you will prevail unless the participant puts an extra amount of thought into it. Some people might actually say they think of Hamburglar when they head McDonalds. It depends on the person's thought pattern really.[/FONT]

[Guest Copycatalyst]

Demeated. Pimpkin. Infinitsmally. Karmaceuticals. Atomatons. Atomos. Arete. Comprehensivist. Syruprise. Unsane. Dichotomic. Chemicality. Xeroxian. Ismjizzum. Isis. Concrastination. Whorse. Whoreable. Amphiprotic. Monstropolous. LANgauge. Stimmyied.


"[b]Demeated[/b] thighs and legs."

"We screwed the pumpkins and decided you're my little [b]pimpkins[/b]. In fact I am going to dress up as Marilyn Manson for Christmas and pretend it's Holloween. And scare all the little adult children away so the children can nestle into the Earth!"

"To merely sum up all that we are, it is contained in one whole word; the word is [i][b]infinitsmally[/b][/i]."

"They medicate us to run away in their pharm farms, but I see the substances as a type of [b]karmaceutical[/b]."

"The automatons of the [b]atomatons[/b]."

"[b]Atomos[/b] is to atom as big is to small."

"[b]Arete[/b]--why that's a word that doesn't really exist! We translated it as [i]virtue[/i] in Plato and Aristotle, but as far as the Greeks meant that word it meant [i]all-around excellence[/i], which our American society sorely lacks. We instead love to specialize."

"If one is a [b]comprehensivist[/b] they are a renaissance man more less. They are open to various perspectives and can change their minds' eye and their entire frame of what they are to become it. In a phrase, my lad, it is [i]comprehensive specialization[/i] ;)"

"Surprise is one thing; but the [b]syruprise[/b] is another; it is the rise of that which is made upon the ground, this honey, that rises towards the sky infinitsmally--to speak of a word before!"

"So you think I am insane because you tell me [i]stop thinking so much[/i]. We all know whomever said that phrase was actually thinking too little to say so little. Further, I am not insane, I am [b]unsane[/b]. Unsanity is to be beyond sanity and insanity, and to merely be both at once, for the terms are merely [b][i]dichotomic[/i][/b] fallacies of the human mind!"

"[b]Chemicality[/b] is merely the state of realizing that within the chemicals is contained a Godhead. And that as much as we say alive, the chemicals do make us alive, too. That we are so much just chemicals it is interesting that, by alteration of the chemicality of our bodies and minds, we can fashion ourselves to become anything."

"A [b]Xeroxian[/b] is one whom is a copy of a copy of a copy, a faux facsimile. They're just copies of the imitation. They're just worn-out facades."

"Philosophy--a great endeavor it is. Insomuch, though, the Western aspects of it are fluent [b]ismjizzum[/b]. This is warranted by the fact of our love of -isms and how we displace them with our apparent [i]logic[/i] which is often only a limited function of the logic of our reason!"

"What we've got to do is forget the meme and the youyou and remember the [b]isis[/b]. I think it was some Egyptian God--but we know what the isis; it's the information transfer of information [i]undistorted[/i] with our human misconceptions and with our hardware's obsession of using its primordial and built-in functions with which to obtain truth."

"Procrastination comes from the latin '[i]cras[/i]' which means 'tomorrow' and pro, which means 'forward.' [b]Concrastination[/b] is the act of being 'with' (that's what [i]con[/i] morphemes) tomorrow ('cras'). It is the act of in essence being an anachronism and being posthumous; it is the almost melancholy, though surrendering valiancy of being always with tomorrow, and never today, in its pithy struggles and pontificating ploys."

"A [b]whorse[/b] is a human of the horse variety who loves to be rode in the most [b]whoreable[/b] manner possible. Perhaps they are also a pimpkin, or perhaps they are merely lots of har, you know, harlots!"

"[b]Amphiprotic[/b] is a chemistry term denoting a substance like water. Water has the capability to either be an acid or a base. It can thus be used in a more human-applicable term to apply to what a human can be. It can either be an acid or a base and really is both an acid and a base, much like water is as far as acidicy and basiceness goes."

"[b]Monstropolous[/b]--I believe that was the word found in [i]Their Eyes Were Watching God[/i], a book by Zora Neale Hurston. Moreover, this was a word which had no dictionary definition used within the book. I am not quite sure what it means! Like any word, I assume it can mean whatever you assume it to mean! And isn't that the beauty of language?"

"[b]LANgauge[/b] is the true function of language. It is meant to gauge the amount of communicable connectedness, the local area networkcy, of human beings. On a scale of 1 to 10, what's our LANgauge right now, you think?"

"To be stymied in a [i]status quo[/i] is one thing; to be [b]stimmyied[/b] in a [i]dynamus quo[/i] is another! That perhaps is the difference between you and I if that illusion even exists itself?"

[pooperson]

[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][SIZE="1"]This is starting to look too much like the SAT.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[Wet Cement]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]This topic should be extended for terms that already exist but just don't do justice to the definition.

[b]*definition*[/b]: *possible words*

[b]He of the Long Wind[/b]: Zephedextrous, Blowmein, Copycatalyst, Proustophile

[b]Predisinclined Towards Fat People[/b]: Fatcist, Starvin' Stalin, Afatocious

[b]Often Angry or Unusually Aggressive[/b]: Krautoscholastic, Timurial, Napoleatric

[b]Funderful or, alternately, Funtastic[/b]: Shpadoinkle

[b]Unrequitedly Dull or Intentionally Boring[/b]: Ayndolific, Randy, Quixotepolytronic

Good on ya if you get even half those references...[/COLOR]

[Guest Copycatalyst]

[b]Prosciousness[/b]. "Before being full of knowing." It is the only true consciousness. For you see, there existed in the recesses of space, a planet with some animals who thought themselves clever and decided to call their adaptary abilities the entirety of all that is. Foolish wasn't it?

[Sara]

[quote name='2007DigitalBoy'][COLOR="DarkOrange"]For instance, when you think [B]'McDonalds' [/B]you probably think '[B]Ronald McDonald' [/B]and when you think [B]'Ronald McDonald' [/B]you think [B]'McDonalds'[/B]. Now, when you think of the [B]Ham Burgler[/B], you think of [B]McDonalds [/B]as well, but not as much in vice-versa. I hope this makes more sense than I'm deriving from it >_< (and yes I'm aware that this analogy is positively begging for stupid replies).[/COLOR][/QUOTE][color=#db2007]I describe this using Venn Diagrams.

In the Venn diagram of life, "Hamburglar" always has associations with McDonald's, but "McDonald's" does not always have associations with Hamburglar.[/color]

[Semjaza]

I don't know, I kind of always think about the Hamburglar.

[Guest Copycatalyst]

Dairy Queen and Burger King own the monarchy of America--they are, in so few words, the King and Queen of America's dying dynasty; whilst the politicians own the oligarchy. I hear BK might have impregnated DQ. I wonder what baby is on the way? Will it be a boy, a girl, or a hermaphrodite? Will it grow up to be a Hamburglar, a Chocolate Heath Blizzard, or a shake that is cheeseburger-flavored? And will it decide to change its sex given it is of the dichotomic man/ woman variety? And if it is a herm', will it be able to merely have a babe much like an Earthworm or a sponge? Officials have yet to say. Here's your mom with the weather.

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]I'm hoping for Heath blizzard, myself.[/color]

[eleanor]

[color=dimgray] There should be a word that for situations that aren't actually ironic, but you need a better term than 'coincidentally' to describe it.[/color]

[Allamorph]

[quote name='Lunox'][color=dimgray] There should be a word that for situations that aren't actually ironic, but you need a better term than 'coincidentally' to describe it.[/color][/QUOTE]
[FONT=Arial]I think that word is "convenient".[/FONT]

[Guest Copycatalyst]

[quote name='Lunox'][color=dimgray] There should be a word that for situations that aren't actually ironic, but you need a better term than 'coincidentally' to describe it.[/color][/QUOTE]

Synchronicity.

[eleanor]

[quote name='Allamorph'][FONT=Arial]I think that word is "convenient".[/FONT][/QUOTE]

[color=dimgray] Only in some cases. I'll steal an example from VH1: a lot of people would (mistakenly) say that rain on a wedding day is ironic. It's not, but coincidental or convenient doesn't work as well either.[/color]

[quote name='copycatalyst']Synchronicity.[/quote]

[color=dimgray] Sort of off, again. It's "ironic" that a lot of people don't know what arcane means, but it's not a case of synchronicity. [/color]

[Nerdsy]

[quote name='Lunox'][color=dimgray] a lot of people would (mistakenly) say that rain on a wedding day is ironic. It's not, but coincidental or convenient doesn't work as well either.[/color][/quote]


[color=deeppink]Actually, they'd be correct.[/color]

[quote name='American Heritage Dictionary']Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs[/quote]

[color=deeppink]So long as the rain on on a wedding day is unexpected (which isn't much of a stretch; a lot of people expect their wedding day to be absolutely perfect), the situation would still be ironic. Just, not in the literary sense.[/color]

[eleanor]

[quote name='Nerdsy']
[color=deeppink]So long as the rain on on a wedding day is unexpected (which isn't much of a stretch; a lot of people expect their wedding day to be absolutely perfect), the situation would still be ironic. Just, not in the literary sense.[/color][/QUOTE]

[color=dimgray]I always took irony in a very literary sense. ;)[/color]

[Guest Copycatalyst]

Something which isn't ironic. . .well what is ironic by and large? It is a contradiction, that is often revealed in obviousness once a phrase is given, which then becomes what is called "irony." For example we first see that Bush goes to war. At first this is not ironic. But the statement "Bush is a conservative and war is not conservative" is an ironic phrase. It employs the logic of the word "conservative" as it should mean, and shows that Bush did an action which is not "conservative." This is a contradiction, a disparacy, and thus it is "ironic" because now it is blatantly obvious whereas before it did not seem so.

Thus my logic was that the opposite of ironic would be a situation which seems at first contradictory until a phrase makes it blatantly obvious that there is no contradiction, often in a striking, perhaps humorous way. Thus "synchronicity." Synchronicity is when things are "synched." As in, non-contradictory, [i]non-ironic[/i]--matching-up in an almost de ja vu or perhaps jamais vu type way (hah). Perhaps a neat word to use would be [b]synchronic[/b]. I like the sound of that one personally.

Or we could consider the actual morphemeations or components that come together to make the word "ironic." I do not know its specific etymology nor coinage, but "iron" does not conduct electricity, or shall we say "synchronicity" well. Copper does. Perhaps [b]coppronic[/b] would suffice? It still does not have the tautness of this word "ironic" though, so I think I still like synchronic more; it flows better and is more catchy.