eleanor Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 [quote name='Aaryanna_Mom'] But that is meaningless to a parent who grew up in a country where that wasn't the case. Obviously there needs to be a balance of what you keep your kids from watching, but I'm saying that it's not so black and white as some of you are thinking. Many of you have grown up thinking all the violence, swearing, innuendo and everything else is normal. Keep in mind that for many of your parents... It's not. [/QUOTE] [font="trebuchet ms"] I don't think it's necessarily meaningless. Granted, the media today is more sexual and violent than it was twenty years ago, but the violence/sexuality shown in the US is different from other countries. [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazumechan Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Well my dads the one who got me and my sister into anime so he obviously doesnt mind because he loves it too!My mom on the other hand hates anime but,thats only because she thinks me and my sister watch it too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strwpoptart Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 [FONT="Palatino Linotype"][COLOR="Green"]I don't about other people's parents, but every time my mother sees me watching Anime or reading Manga she yells at me. She hates that I like it. She thinks they're just cartoons and at my age (21) I shouldn't be watching this stuff anymore. But her opinion is not going to stop me. I graduated college and have 3 jobs so I don't think watching Anime is really going to effect my lifestyle lol. But I guess some parents like Anime and are ok with their own children watching it.[/COLOR][/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 [SIZE="3"][FONT="Garamond"]It's not like it's heavily discouraged at my house, but my parents don't approve. My mother thinks it's mostly just silly garbage (she gets most of her impressions of what anime is from when I watched DBZ), but the thing she really dislikes about anime is the exagerated expressions and unrealistic temperments (think Vash) I don't think she's ever seen one of the animes that doesn't exagerate (Ghost in the Shell, .hack//SIGN, etc). She thinks I'll grow out of it, though, so she doesn't stop me from buying anime and manga. My dad just thinks it's silly, probably because he only knows what he hears from mom. They both trust that I'll excersize my better judgment when it comes to pornographic material (which I have zero interest in) About animes using sex appeal to attract buyers: To be honest, I find it a little irrtating. When done in moderation, it's not so bad, but when somebody's breasts are the size of watermelons, and every other scene is a panty shot, I feel it detracts from the anime. As for innuendos, I might have built up a tolerance for them after FLCL. After watching it a thousand times (the minimum requirment for understanding any of the plot) they only get funnier and funnier ( I swear that show is the most insane of all time)[/FONT][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 [quote name='Lunox'][font="trebuchet ms"] I don't think it's necessarily meaningless. Granted, the media today is more sexual and violent than it was twenty years ago, but the violence/sexuality shown in the US is different from other countries. [/font][/QUOTE]That's what I meant by meaningless. For them it's not the same since what they consider acceptable is different. ^_~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 [quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']That's what I meant by meaningless. For them it's not the same since what they consider acceptable is different. ^_~[/QUOTE] [font="trebuchet ms"] Ah, I thought you talking about generational differences. :o[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 [quote name='Lunox'][font="trebuchet ms"] Ah, I thought you talking about generational differences. :o[/font][/QUOTE]Both actually. Sorry if I wasn't clear. But it's both. One: what's acceptable in one country isn't in another and two: that generational difference is a big factor as well. That's what I was getting at with the example of the Gatchaman anime. Not only was what I considered acceptable different on a generational level but one of a cultural/country level as well. If they were more accepting of violence back in the seventies, I can only imagine that today that acceptance is still totally different, regardless of the generation. Though that's important too. Though I would imagine more so within a given country than between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktigerpack17 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Parents now and days don't posess the patience to take the time to understand the subculture that their children are into. Personnally, I was raised by my father whose rules were simple, no drugs, no booze, no theft, noting illegal. He saw things like pornagraphy as harmless. So I understand that the parents of today are trying to be socially correct, and anything that harms their image is bad, and this includes their children. If the child shows interest in something that at first glance looks violent or pornongraphic, it is a black mark on their social image, and must be dealt with. This is unsually solved by putting the child through things like phycologists. ( I know it misspelled it ) Now I'm not saying that everyone gets treated this way, there are parents like mine that will give you slack for simple "just stay out of trouble" rules. My best friend actually had his dad sit down and watch an anime with him ( it happen to be Evangelion - Death and Rebirth ) and now his dad pays for convention trips and entry fees and hotel rooms for us. If you can get your parent to sit down and take a true look into the subculture of Anime, they will be very surprised at what they find. It isnt all porn and violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 [quote name='Darktigerpack17;786175]Parents now and days don't posess the patience to take the time to understand the subculture that their children are into. [/QUOTE]No that's not really true. Perhaps some parents are like that, but not all of them. If anything you could turn around and say the kids lack the patience to try and understand why their parents don't instantly understand the subculture their kids are into. That's really the big problem here. Both sides are instantly saying it's the other who refuses to understand or has no patience when it's both.[quote name='Darktigerpack17''] If you can get your parent to sit down and take a true look into the subculture of Anime, they will be very surprised at what they find. It isnt all porn and violence.[/quote]I agree and at the same time, it would be beneficial for the kids to sit down and watch some of the older cartoon and shows their parents grew up on to understand why the violence, swearing, and such, even if it's minor is so startling and surprising to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 [COLOR="goldenrod"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']I agree and at the same time, it would be beneficial for the kids to sit down and watch some of the older cartoon and shows their parents grew up on to understand why the violence, swearing, and such, even if it's minor is so startling and surprising to them.[/QUOTE]*laughs* Gods, that's so true that it's sickening. XP Don't believe her? Go and watch 'Leave it to Beaver' it's almost sickening at how clean it is. And as wiki says: [INDENT]The show strongly promoted the importance of family. The recurring themes expounded parental expectations for children, while the moral messages stressed the importance of teaching children proper behavior. Proper parenting techniques and methods for resolving problems and achieving consensus were demonstrated.[/INDENT] So even though I do think some parents don't try to understand *pokes her mom* I can easily see how it's so different than what they were raised on. Making it hard to bridge that gap, especially when some anime out there is porn or loaded with tons of violence, language and stuff. Though the same goes for tv, movies, books, etc. Which just means that since mine tries to understand and even likes some anime herself, she's just one of the coolest parents out there. I mean, she is a member here! :catgirl:[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojio Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I think most parents who are against anime have that common belief that anime is either crazy, girly, childish, or sexually explicit. Hmmmmmmm well although some are many are deep, mature and focus on really serious moral issues. My mom always thought anime was stupid and she referred to it as "that plinky plonky stuff" i think she was referring to the Japanese lol. That was until we watched Howls Moving Castle together and since then she still dislikes it but doesn't make out that its all childish and stupid. I think we should find an anime that each of our parents can either: 1) relate to or 2) enjoy watching :animesmil after all we are their children and could expect them to enjoy the similar things we enjoy about anime. Well thats not entirely true i mean i cant see either my mom or my dad enjoying Harem anime hehe :animenose and i cant see me watching it with them. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktigerpack17 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 [quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']No that's not really true. Perhaps some parents are like that, but not all of them. If anything you could turn around and say the kids lack the patience to try and understand why their parents don't instantly understand the subculture their kids are into. That's really the big problem here. Both sides are instantly saying it's the other who refuses to understand or has no patience when it's both.I agree and at the same time, it would be beneficial for the kids to sit down and watch some of the older cartoon and shows their parents grew up on to understand why the violence, swearing, and such, even if it's minor is so startling and surprising to them.[/QUOTE] Lol, I didn't mean every parent to began with. I suppose I could've clairified more. I've had many friends get locked permantly in their house because their friend liked anime. I do understand that the process does indeed have a reverse, in which children try to understand their parents, however, regardless of if they do or not, that doesn't change the fact that the parent would take measures to restrict their kids from the subculture of anime that they enjoy. It isn't the kids that take from the parents, its the parents that take from the kids. If they understood it, then they might not be so eager to 'take'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmaninoff Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 [quote name='Darktigerpack17'] however, regardless of if they do or not, that doesn't change the fact that the parent would take measures to restrict their kids from the subculture of anime that they enjoy.[B] It isn't the kids that take from the parents, its the parents that take from the kids.[/B] If they understood it, then they might not be so eager to 'take'.[/QUOTE]Well obviously. lol It is a parents job to moderate what their kids watch. Not the other way around. And even if the parent does go to the trouble to understand, there's always going to be something that they take away. It's not so much an eagerness but a parental desire to do what's best for their kids. Though kids usually don't see it that way. They tend to think their parents are just being jerks. lol Honestly, if a parent let their kid watch any anime that they wanted without a thought, I'd be questioning whether or not they were good parents. I know I wouldn't want some thirteen year old watching something like Elfen Lied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktigerpack17 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I suppose you have a point, but if you look at it from the stand point of a biased parent, the instant they saw something like Elfen Lied, they would judge all anime by it. I have heard many many times from people who are not anime fans, i have showed them things like Elfen Lied to show that anime isnt all childish cartoons, and they say " It is still a cartoon." Regardless of how violent it is, Elfen Lied seems to be a cartoon. Granted it has the bloodiest first five minutes of anime, and many themes are gruesome, I wouldn't let a 13 year old watch it simply because they wouldn't understand the story. They are so much worse the that stuff out there, and the 10 and up genre are eating it up, regardless of parental will. But for parents to put their foot down on anime, but allow them to go see violent war movies, as well other things that are not 'cartoons'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmaninoff Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 [quote name='Darktigerpack17;786294]I suppose you have a point, but if you look at it from the stand point of a biased parent, the instant they saw something like Elfen Lied, they would judge all anime by it. [/QUOTE]Well that is the point of this thread, parents who don't look beyond a single show. Though I do find it ironic since some anime fans are equally as judgmental towards cartoons that don't come from Japan and yet I've found things like Duck Tales, Darkwing Duck and Samurai Jack to be well done and excellent shows regardless of the fact that they didn't come from Japan.[quote name='Darktigerpack17''] But for parents to put their foot down on anime, but allow them to go see violent war movies, as well other things that are not 'cartoons'.[/quote]You won't get any argument from me on that, some parents are stupid. It's unfortunate but true. I remember seeing 'Saving Private Ryan' in the theaters and it has some very intense bloody moments and yet parents were in there with their toddles and preteen kids. And that show was Rated R for intense prolonged realistically graphic sequences of war violence, and for language. Definitely not for kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OnigiriGirl Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 When I was little, I used to watch Sailor Moon. Now I was about 4 at the time, so my mom never approved of that particular show. She also didn't see the point in Pokemon or Hamtaro. All in all she didn't care for that kind of anime. I didn't really care what my mom thought of it. Until of course one time I went to Blockbuster and I saw a Sailor Moon Movie that I [i]had[/i] to have. My sister and I begged my mom for it and she finally got it. The we asked her to watch it with us and she agreed, but I don't think she was to happy. After we watched it my mom said. "Wow... there is more of a point than a bunch of girls in mini-skirts with crushes." :animeswea But as I got older I got into things like Naruto, Bleach, FMA and Inuyasha. Which my mom thinks is really cool. I actually found out a little while ago, she used to watch an anime called Robotech. I'm 14 so I don't really know the point of that, but it's cool to know my mom was into anime when she was little, too! :catgirl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:[ Revy ]:. Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Well, my mom is half japanese, so she was the one who originally introduced me to anime/manga cause she had a few that aren't sold anymore and let me read them. I've ran into parents who bashed em, but just like that loser who bashes video games, she just bashes anime cause she doesn't watch it...:animeswea I know people who dislike anime but they love the movies like Spirited Away and Howling Moon. It's not the content, normally its the visual concept that attract. That woman musta saw something she felt was nasty an now disses it all. Shame. I'd have to smack her in her grill if she ever came roun me, talkin' stuff bout my anime... :animesmil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasving Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 by my as the nevertheless, and here the father of my friend it is tight of villages on the anime, it expends the heap of money, it sits and looks it to the night, it became large fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 [COLOR="goldenrod"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][quote name='dasving']by my as the nevertheless, and here the father of my friend it is tight of villages on the anime, it expends the heap of money, it sits and looks it to the night, it became large fan.[/QUOTE]A word of advise dasving, I know someone mentioned simply using a translation program to type in Russian and have it convert it to English for you, but the result is unreadable since the grammar is completely out of whack. Honestly I have no clue what you just said. XP If you are going to use a translator, stick to single words only for spelling, not for the whole thing okay? In the long run, you'll learn English a lot faster if you only use a translator for single words and as little as possible. ^_~ [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasving Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 off topic now I tightly study English, soon to smog obshchyatsya on it freer my problem in the fact that 4 I do not know as they are written many words, although I can freely talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laborpilot86 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 my parents just don't get it. they didn't grow up with it (or most American cartoons for that matter), so they just think of it as another quirky hobby of mine. Yes its a generational thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugamon Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 My parents didn't know what to think of it at first till they started to read threads i posted in here way back when. They came to the idea that it was bad for me i thought it was BS. They banned me for a time from it but i moved out found my self and came back.. plus i got two roomies who are really into it.. so that helps hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panache Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Lol my dad got me into anime. He used to buy me pokemon VHSes and he let me watch spawn with him and some of my friends. Then when I was a bit older I borrowed Ninja Scroll from him. My mom really never gave a damn either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion Knight Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Well, my parents really have no problem with it. My mom doesn't like it much, but she just turns the other way when I watch it. My dad's more understanding and on VERY rare occasion (maybe once or twice a year) he'll sit down and watch it with me. On the other hand, I have a 15-year-old younger brother who seems more like the ignorant parents who think it's all garbage...which is very ironic because he loved Yugioh and DBZ when he was a kid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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