Homosexuality 101, seriously?

[Annie]

[size=1][color=darkslateblue]Okay, I didn't catch the entire story on the news, and if I asked my father about it, he got all wound up on this subject. So, forgive me if I didn't get all the information correctly....

Homosexuality is going to be taught in schools..to 10-year-olds?? Apparently, from what I overheard, schools (certain/specific/all, I'm not sure) are going to start teaching young students all about homosexuality. Everything from what the word means to how homosexuals have intercourse.

Who's idea was that? I mean, do NOT get me wrong. I do NOT have anything against homosexuality...but is this too extreme?? I feel that homosexuality is something that cannot be taught. It's a lifestyle that isn't just developed in a semester or a year of studying. Not only that, but it's also a touchy subject that children don't fully understand at the age of 10. Even so, say a child does understand, who's to say they are going to be willing to participate in class and give their experience (if there is any at all).

We all know children, and what child is going to open up to that topic? How are parents allowing this; particular homophobic families?? I can see it now, children are going to be even more cruel to each other because some families raise their children to believe homosexuality is a sin/a terrible thing.

I guess, the idea of teaching children about homosexuality is to teach them that it is perfectly normal to be homosexual; [b]and it is[/b]. Lots of families are not going to agree and therefore confuse their children.

I feel that homosexuality should be learned through experience, and that it should be supported by the family...because that's what matters the most. Society is cruel and not so understanding; but you know, tell society to kiss your ***, because as long as your family loves you for whatever sexuality you choose, then nothing else matters.

So, all in all, I don't think homosexuality should be "taught" in school. It's just going to cause a greater deal of drama to a child. In my opinion.

What's yours?[/size][/color]

[Flagg]

Well to put it out there in the very start I think homosexuality should not be taught about in schools. I personally think that homosexuality is wrong. Does that mean I hold it against people who are homosexuals? No it doesn't. In fact, one of my good friends from highschool is a homosexual and we still got along good. However, I do believe to teach all about it in school is crossing the line. There is a difference between what a person should learn in school and what they can choose to learn on their own. I believe school should teach children only what is needed to operate in society when they are done with mandatory education. That seems like more of a personal issue and in my defence I will say that I don't think that things like regular sex ed should be taught in school either. To teach about homosexuality will undoubtadly cause it to be more accepted and work in favor of those who would promote it. But don't misunderstand me I do not want it to work in favor or against homosexuality. I just think that it's not a topic that should be addressed in school at all. If by making people more aware of it someone hopes to lessen the prejudice against it, I can calmly say that that just wont work. That is a fairy tail type answer to problem that can only be solved with time. I think at this point I'm just typing stuff for the sake of typing so I'll end it there.

[Dagger]

[quote name='Athena'][size=1][color=darkslateblue]Everything from what the word means to how homosexuals have intercourse. [/size][/color][/QUOTE]
If it can be done by a homosexual couple, it can be done by a straight couple, too. Might be useful information no matter who you want to have sex with. :p

I live in a liberal part of the US. Even here, teachers are only allowed to bring up homosexuality in detail if a kid asks them specific questions about it. Other than that, all they can do is mention that some people have feelings for members of the same sex. (Like an eighth grader won't have already figured that out.)

Minus details, I'm a tad skeptical about this story. I can't really see it happening... except maybe in California, haha.

Whether the students are ten or sixteen, sex-ed classes should cover homosexuality. The appropriate age at which to start sex-ed classes is a separate issue.

~Dagger~

[2010DigitalBoy]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]I applaud the idea. Finally, kids will know what they're doing going both ways, and we can all enjoy a more educated sex life in our early years.

Maybe it'll also nip all the gay sex misconceptions in the bud as well.[/COLOR]

[Shy]

[size=1]I'd much rather you get the whole story before posting a thread about something. I'm sure it's much less terrifying than you make it out to be. Oh well...[/size][quote name='Athena'][size=1][color=darkslateblue]Homosexuality is going to be taught in schools..to 10-year-olds?? Apparently, from what I overheard, schools (certain/specific/all, I'm not sure) are going to start teaching young students all about homosexuality. Everything from what the word means to how homosexuals have intercourse.[/size][/color][/quote][size=1]I learned all about heterosexual intercourse when I was ten, even though it didn't apply to me. I remember students asking my teacher questions about homosexuality and the teacher refusing to answer them. As a result, I didn't even know what being gay was until years later. Growing up thinking I was some sort of aberration because I wasn't attracted to females certainly wasn't healthy for my upbringing.

Homosexuality isn't something to be 'learned through experience.' Discrimination is everywhere, and most children don't have the kind of close family relationships they need to discuss this sensitive topic. In fact, most of my gay friends have been disowned by their families after 'coming out.' If children can't be educated about homosexuality and discuss it in a classroom setting, where else can they?

-Shy[/size]

[Flagg]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]Shy[/B]
[SIZE="1"][I]Homosexuality isn't something to be 'learned through experience.' Discrimination is everywhere, and most children don't have the kind of close family relationships they need to discuss this sensitive topic. In fact, most of my gay friends have been disowned by their families after 'coming out.' If children can't be educated about homosexuality and discuss it in a classroom setting, where else can they?[/I][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

[SIZE="1"][B]If children don't have the kind of close relationships they need to discuss the sensitive topic with their family I don't see how discussing it in a classroom setting where there are far more people to discriminate against them (kids in school are pretty terrible) would make it any better. Where else can they be educated? I have not a good answer but I will say that I think it's safe to say the vast amount of our knowledge isn't learned directly from school programs is it? Probably all of us reading this know about homosexuality learning it one way or another. I see no need to go out of our way to teach kids about that stuff in public school programs. I have confidence in humanity's ability to learn on their own. Do we really need schools to regulate every little thing that we learn in our lives? At once point it just starts to get ridiculous.
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[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Athena;788286][size=1][color=darkslateblue]Okay, I didn't catch the entire story on the news, and if I asked my father about it, he got all wound up on this subject. So, forgive me if I didn't get all the information correctly....[/size][/color][/QUOTE]I'd be curious to know just how current this news is, or for where. The last time I heard about it was when including information like that was blocked from public schools in Maryland back in 2005. [QUOTE=Athena'][size=1][color=darkslateblue]Homosexuality is going to be taught in schools..to 10-year-olds?? Apparently, from what I overheard, schools (certain/specific/all, I'm not sure) are going to start teaching young students all about homosexuality. Everything from what the word means to how homosexuals have intercourse.

Who's idea was that? I mean, do NOT get me wrong. I do NOT have anything against homosexuality...but is this too extreme?? I feel that homosexuality is something that cannot be taught. It's a lifestyle that isn't just developed in a semester or a year of studying. Not only that, but it's also a touchy subject that children don't fully understand at the age of 10. Even so, say a child does understand, who's to say they are going to be willing to participate in class and give their experience (if there is any at all). [/size][/color][/QUOTE]Let me get this straight, you do not have a problem with homosexuality and yet you consider this too extreme? What is your view on regular sex ed then? Is that too extreme as well? Or is that somehow okay? And isn't the point of sex ed to well... educate? Teach kids about the pitfalls and dangers as well as other aspects of being sexually active? Why should we teach one side and yet not the other? [quote name='Athena'][size=1][color=darkslateblue]We all know children, and what child is going to open up to that topic? How are parents allowing this; particular homophobic families?? I can see it now, children are going to be even more cruel to each other because some families raise their children to believe homosexuality is a sin/a terrible thing.

I guess, the idea of teaching children about homosexuality is to teach them that it is perfectly normal to be homosexual; [b]and it is[/b]. Lots of families are not going to agree and therefore confuse their children.[/size][/color][/QUOTE]Kids already are cruel to each other because they have been raised to believe that homosexuality is a sin, I doubt a class would really change it all that much. Of course there is going to be resistance, after all, anytime you make a change like this, people will be unhappy. And it seems to me that the easiest solution is one that many schools already do. Parents have the right to opt out of their kids taking sex ed, so I don't see why it should matter. Just as they think it's wrong, millions of other people do not. Refusing to teach something just because someone doesn't agree isn't a good premises for denying a topic. Not by a long shot. [quote name='Athena'][size=1][color=darkslateblue]I feel that homosexuality should be learned through experience, and that it should be supported by the family...because that's what matters the most. Society is cruel and not so understanding; but you know, tell society to kiss your ***, because as long as your family loves you for whatever sexuality you choose, then nothing else matters.

So, all in all, I don't think homosexuality should be "taught" in school. It's just going to cause a greater deal of drama to a child. In my opinion.

What's yours?[/size][/color][/QUOTE]That's all fine and on some level I can agree, but keeping it behind closed doors like that will only foster the hatred or rather the [I]'ignorance'[/I] about homosexuality instead of generating understanding or at the very least, [I]tolerance[/I] of it.

So in the end, I think teaching something like this is long overdue. Though considering what I've heard, I don't see it happening anytime soon.

[Sandy]

I think some of you people are seriously mixing up "teaching kids what homosexuality is" to "teaching kids how to be homosexuals". The case is obviously about the first option, and you shouldn't get all worked up about it. It's not like homosexuality should be the "private matter no one should discuss" like some people still seem to think.

Like researches show, 1-10% of population belongs to the GLBT-minorities, so you cannot make that amount of people invisible and nonexistent. Kids (and adults alike) need civilized, well-informed knowledge about us instead of biggoted, prejudiced gossips they might learn elsewhere. All information isn't equally truthful, remember. ;P

[James]

[quote]I think some of you people are seriously mixing up "teaching kids what homosexuality is" to "teaching kids how to be homosexuals". The case is obviously about the first option, and you shouldn't get all worked up about it. It's not like homosexuality should be the "private matter no one should discuss" like some people still seem to think.[/quote]

[color=#606060]Bingo.

Besides, it makes no sense to "teach about homosexuality" in its own subject.

It should simply be a part of any sex education course, if you're going to go down that road.

We need to get away from this idea of homosexuality as a "lifestyle" and "teaching someone to be gay". Doesn't work like that, folks. It'd be like teaching a blue-eyed child to have brown eyes - it has nothing to do with learned behaviour.

In any case, I think the overriding question has nothing to do with homosexuality. The overriding question is this: at what age do you believe sex education should become part of the curriculum?

If a ten year old is old enough to learn about sex, they are old enough to learn what homosexuality is. But if you feel that people shouldn't be learning about sex 'till they are older...then that's another question.[/color]

[quote]Whether the students are ten or sixteen, sex-ed classes should cover homosexuality. The appropriate age at which to start sex-ed classes is a separate issue.[/quote]

[color=#606060]Agreed.[/color]

[Flagg]

[B][SIZE="1"]I'm against sex ed in school anyway but fine I'll say that if you must teach about homosexuality do it in a highshool freshmen behavior health class. Although by that time most if not everyone will know about it anyway. Thus creates the issue is sex ed in general really needed in the school system. Seriously as human beings we got along just fine loooooooong before we started sex ed in school. To argue the issue anymore would seem pointless to me so just do whatever the majority of the population wants to do and call it fair.[/SIZE][/B]

[Gavin]

[SIZE="1"]Teach it at the same time you give hetero sex-ed, problem solved.

Whatever a person's feelings on homosexuality are, it's never better to be ignorant about something, as ignorance as we've seen so often breeds prejudice. And prejudice leads to many, many horrible things.

Maybe we should have that thread on what age kids learn sex-ed at, because honestly I think at ten, they are a bit young.[/SIZE]

[Sandy]

[quote name='Flagg'][B][SIZE="1"]Seriously as human beings we got along just fine loooooooong before we started sex ed in school. To argue the issue anymore would seem pointless to me so just do whatever the majority of the population wants to do and call it fair.[/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]

[I]Seriously[/I], how ignorant can you be? If people would do just fine without any type of sexual education, we wouldn't have teenage pregnancies, HIV or other sexually transmitting diseases, or boys asking why their testicles don't fit inside the condom (true story!). Where else would you learn about your bodily functions, the effect of hormons or what's normal growth in puberty if not in health education?

As to do whatever the majority of the population does in terms of sexual orientation, ignoring your own feelings and how you were born... I'm just glad we gay people are slowly getting away from the opression and misery that has lasted for centuries.

[quote name='Gavin']Maybe we should have that thread on what age kids learn sex-ed at, because honestly I think at ten, they are a bit young.[/quote]

In my job I've learned that the right age for kids to learn about sex is when they start asking about it. Some kids do it when they're five, some aren't interested until high school. Of course [I]how[/I] you teach it varies according to the age.

[Flagg]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]Sandy[/B]
[SIZE="1"][I]As to do whatever the majority of the population does in terms of sexual orientation, ignoring your own feelings and how you were born... I'm just glad we gay people are slowly getting away from the opression and misery that has lasted for centuries.[/I][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

[SIZE="1"][B]You misunderstand, I was saying that whatever the majority of the population decides to do in terms of teaching it in schools or not would be called fair. I was not saying to mask your feelings and try and pretend like it doesn't exist and go with the flow.[/B][/SIZE]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]Sandy[/B]
[SIZE="1"][I]Seriously, how ignorant can you be? If people would do just fine without any type of sexual education, we wouldn't have teenage pregnancies, HIV or other sexually transmitting diseases, or boys asking why their testicles don't fit inside the condom (true story!).[/I][/SIZE]
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[SIZE="1"][B]Ah but we already have sexual education in schools and would you not agree we already also have plenty of teenage pregnancies, cases of HIV or other sexually transmitted diseases, and guessing from your true story comment boys asking why their testicles don't fit inside the condom.

And please don't lash out at me and start the name calling I hardly think my ignorance is the topic of discussion here.[/B][/SIZE]

[Horendithas]

[COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Flagg'][SIZE="1"][B]Ah but we already have sexual education in schools and would you not agree we already also have plenty of teenage pregnancies, cases of HIV or other sexually transmitted diseases, and guessing from your true story comment boys asking why their testicles don't fit inside the condom.[/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]Actually that's not completely accurate. Not every state and school in the US has sex ed and many that do, have the option where their parents can choose to not have their kids attend it. I've run into cases of people who were in their early twenties and didn't even know the basics of how to have sex.

Also, some schools ideas of sex ed is nothing more than to tell the kids to not do it. No explanation as to what the process entails, no advise on sexually transmitted diseases and no education on the proper use of contraceptives or things such as condoms. Just a don't do it until you get married speech. And then they wonder why their kids are getting pregnant or getting diseases.[/COLOR]

[Sandy]

[quote name='Flagg'][SIZE="1"][B]Ah but we already have sexual education in schools and would you not agree we already also have plenty of teenage pregnancies, cases of HIV or other sexually transmitted diseases, and guessing from your true story comment boys asking why their testicles don't fit inside the condom.

And please don't lash out at me and start the name calling I hardly think my ignorance is the topic of discussion here.[/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

I'm sorry if I sounded like I was calling you names, but that really was a genuine question: how ignorant can you be if you think that sexual education doesn't make any difference in terms of young people's sexual behaviour?

Sure, it might come down to the [I]quality[/I] of the teaching, as indifference mentioned, but learning this stuff from an "expert" rather than from pornography or misinformed friends is priceless in many situations. What I'm saying that sex ed doesn't automatically remove all teenage pregnancies or sexually transmitted diseases, but without it there'd be [I]a lot[/I] more of those cases (just think of the sexual life in the third world countries). No amount of education can remove ignorance in some people.

[Flagg]

[QUOTE] Originally Posted by [B]indifference[/B]
[SIZE="1"][I]Actually that's not completely accurate. Not every state and school in the US has sex ed and many that do, have the option where their parents can choose to not have their kids attend it. I've run into cases of people who were in their early twenties and didn't even know the basics of how to have sex. [/I][/SIZE]
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[B][SIZE="1"]That is true but the question is will putting it in every single school to be explained in detail really do much to solve the problem?

I had some decent sex ed classes where I'm from myself and I still know of plenty of people who went to those still to become teenage parents and/or end up with stds.

The problem is more like people just don't care if you ask my opinion.

I guess if you have sex ed in schools you might as well cover homosexuality but to be honest I don't think it would do much good to solving as many problems as people think.
That is just a matter of opinion though since one can't really say for sure either way.[/SIZE][/B]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]Sandy[/B]
[I]I'm sorry if I sounded like I was calling you names, but that really was a genuine question: how ignorant can you be if you think that sexual education doesn't make any difference in terms of young people's sexual behaviour?[/I][/QUOTE]

I was not trying to say that it makes no difference at all I am just trying to say that I don't think it is some sort of wonder solution like a lot of you seem to think.

[Horendithas]

[COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Flagg'][B][SIZE="1"]That is true but the question is will putting it in every single school to be explained in detail really do much to solve the problem?[/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]Here's the the thing though, if you never try, you'll never know. ;) That's what the push is about, to make the education more complete. To find out if a better education would make a difference. Doing nothing to improve it... well that accomplishes nothing in the end, where making the education more complete just might.[/COLOR]

[Flagg]

[QUOTE] Originally Posted by [B]indifference[/B]
[SIZE="1"][I]
Here's the the thing though, if you never try, you'll never know. That's what the push is about, to make the education more complete. To find out if a better education would make a difference. Doing nothing to improve it... well that accomplishes nothing in the end, where making the education more complete just might.[/I][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

[B][SIZE="1"]Well I think that I am correct in the long run but you are right in that if we never try we will never know.
I know when I have been defeated *bows out*[/SIZE][/B]

[Tyler Koregaten]

[quote name='2007DigitalBoy'][COLOR="DarkOrange"]I applaud the idea. Finally, kids will know what they're doing going both ways, and we can all enjoy a more educated sex life in our early years.

Maybe it'll also nip all the gay sex misconceptions in the bud as well.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

I can't disagree more. Homosexuality is wrong. I myself am a Christian and all Christians SHOULD know and understand that homosexuality is wrong. For it to be taught in schools is grotesque, for it will expose kids to things they shouldn't get into. This is probably another atempt to further promote non-Christian behavior and/or exclude Christianity and its morals from schools. Not to mention the fact that the ACLU says prayer should NOT be allowed in schools, yet the University of Michigan, a public university just put Muslim footwashes in the bathrooms. Back on topic, although I do NOT by any means believe in or support homosexuality, I will not hate, but will love them as brothers and sisters (as they are) and pray that the Good Lord might help them see the error of their ways. -- this is not meant as an insult, so no outrage please.

[Aberinkula]

[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Tyler, I will hate you for the rest of our lives on OB, I promise you that. Error of their ways? Can you be anymore stubborn? It's the way they are, you can't say "have some god for breakfest, it'll show you you are bad." I believe in god and Jesus, and I believe he's our savior. But no way in hell do I think homosexuality is wrong. I mean "god made them that way!" from what I've learned. And god doesn't make mistakes, cause he's God. Am I right Tyler?

I think it makes no sense to think homosexuals are errors, because if your homosexual, and god created you, obviosuly it isn't bad. Unless the devil is in on it, if so then run away! God teaches you to love and respect, not hate and banish. This maybe your opinion, but I disagree completely. You may have said no outrage, but I will not restrain myself from firing back about it. I may be straight, but I don't think homosexuality is wrong at all. In fact, any homosexual is cool with me, I only discriminate if the person is evil or good, cause really that's all that matters.

I love god , I'm thankful for what he gave me and thankful for the earth he created, but to believe he thinks homosexuality is wrong? That is not the god I know.

Anyways, I belive it should be tought to 10 year olds but I'd hold of on the sex part until they're older. Other than that, I'd be fine learning about it, even though I may get uncomfortable. [/COLOR]

[quote name=' Warmside']I lolled. What you just said is the literal equivalent of "Everything you think is wrong! Everything you are is a sin! Every breath you take is fouled, the very earth you walk on shrivels and dies, so wrong you are your ideas and beliefs! Not that I mean that as an insult..." What a load of pseudo-moralistic righteous ********.[/quote]

I secoond that motion. Who does he think he is? Preaching what's rright an what's wrong. Not to sound mean or anything, but people like him make me sick.

[Warmside]

[quote name='Tyler Koregaten']I can't disagree more. Homosexuality is wrong. I myself am a Christian and all Christians SHOULD know and understand that homosexuality is wrong. For it to be taught in schools is grotesque, for it will expose kids to things they shouldn't get into. This is probably another atempt to further promote non-Christian behavior and/or exclude Christianity and its morals from schools. Not to mention the fact that the ACLU says prayer should NOT be allowed in schools, yet the University of Michigan, a public university just put Muslim footwashes in the bathrooms. Back on topic, although I do NOT by any means believe in or support homosexuality, I will not hate, but will love them as brothers and sisters (as they are) and pray that the Good Lord might help them see the error of their ways. -- this is not meant as an insult, so no outrage please.[/QUOTE]
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I lolled. What you just said is the literal equivalent of "Everything you think is wrong! Everything you are is a sin! Every breath you take is fouled, the very earth you walk on shrivels and dies, so wrong you are your ideas and beliefs! Not that I mean that as an insult..." What a load of pseudo-moralistic righteous ********.

As for the topic... education is never a bad thing. We live in a pathetically ignorant society, and the majority of people hate homosexuals without knowing [I]why[/I]. "Why do you hate homosexuals?" is a question often responded too as "Because they're faggots!" People will [I]always[/I] fear (and thus hate) the unknown; that will never change. But we can change what is known and what is not, and the younger we start the better. [/COLOR]

[AngryBarista]

[quote name='Warmside'][COLOR="SlateGray"]
"Why do you hate homosexuals?" is a question often responded too as "Because they're faggots!" People will [I]always[/I] fear (and thus hate) the unknown; that will never change. But we can change what is known and what is not, and the younger we start the better. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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Nice point Warmside :)
Education about homosexuality is already being covered in some schools here in Melbourne, Australia [Australia is pretty much cool with everyone really with one exception; "What's that? You root your cousins? You can go to Tassie then"]
It's taught at about the age of 15-16, which is when sex-ed is being taught in secondary schools currently, as far as I'm aware.

I myself first started learning about sex when I was 10, in grade 4. They cover the whole man-woman thing at that stage because its generally the time kids start asking questions. Generally.
Move on to high school and lo-and-behold they're covering the whole shabang.
I personally don't think it's necessary to start teaching kids what homosexuals are from the age of 10, but it's a parent's responsibility to cover it before sex-ed kicks in halfway through high school if they want their children to learn about it earlier on.

Lemme know if you want me to clarify anything. Big night last night. Lol.

Sat[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[Sandy]

[quote name='Premonition'][COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Who does he think he is?[/color][/QUOTE]

Tyler Koregaten thinks he's a state alchemist from Germany, so he's pretty much lost all credibility in my eyes. Don't eat what the troll offers, Prem. ;P

[James]

[quote]This is probably another atempt to further promote non-Christian behavior and/or exclude Christianity and its morals from schools.[/quote]

[color=#606060]The overriding point here is whether or not more education is a good thing. I think it's undeniably a good thing.

Educating someone - providing them with information - is not the same as saying "this is what you should believe". It's about arming people with raw information (hopefully from many reliable sources).

When you're armed with information you can then make your own decision. If you only present a limited point of view (or one that pushes a certain point of view), you are inherently limiting a person's education.

I think it's better to be armed with info and [i]then[/i] make a choice, rather than making a choice in ignorance.

This is why I don't like it when people who know nothing about Christianity bash it - that isn't fair. It's just as unfair as people attacking homosexuals without having any understanding of them.

In terms of sex education in general, the system in Australia (at least in my state) is pretty clear.

You [i]can[/i] have sex education in primary school (elementary school), but these classes are optional and parents must approve.

However, by the time you reach about year 9 (so the third year of high school), sex education classes are compulsory. These classes cover everything from the biological aspects to safe sex education.

I was happy with the way our sex education was presented and I thought it covered everything in a pretty non-biased and scientifically factual way (which is about the best you can expect, I suppose).[/color]

[Aaryanna]

[COLOR="goldenrod"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][quote name='Sandy;788385]I think some of you people are seriously mixing up "teaching kids what homosexuality is" to "teaching kids how to be homosexuals". The case is obviously about the first option, and you shouldn't get all worked up about it. It's not like homosexuality should be the "private matter no one should discuss" like some people still seem to think.[/QUOTE]Not really Sandy, as sad as it is. A lot of people really do think it's learned instead of being something that you are. They really believe that having that in school would make people homosexual.[quote name='James'][color=#606060']We need to get away from this idea of homosexuality as a "lifestyle" and "teaching someone to be gay". Doesn't work like that, folks. It'd be like teaching a blue-eyed child to have brown eyes - it has nothing to do with learned behaviour.[/color][/quote]Like I told Sandy, people really believe it is taught instead of being the way you are. Its part of what makes it so hard for others to accept it. They've grown up thinking that it's not natural in any sense of the word. However, that really shows just how ignorant or uneducated people are and yet it makes getting that education even harder since even if it was taught, they'd argue over just what was taught.

I believe that the last time anything like that was brought up here in Utah more than 70% of the people were against it because as they put it... "we don't need to turn our kids gay" It's not true of course, but still that stupidity exists. Personally I think its long overdue, but I can't even vote yet so all I can do is voice my opinion that it should be part of sex ed. But then we don't even fully have that for straight sex either. Let alone homosexuality. XP[/FONT][/COLOR]