Rachmaninoff Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 So once again it's that time of year... Halloween. Now I know we already have a thread on costumes but this is more for what beliefs or superstitions you have in regards to this holiday. As well as for what you actually do or if your family actually has anything that they do every time this holiday comes around. I've grown up with mixed messages as to this particular holiday. On the one hand it's my birthday so I've always considered it a day to celebrate. But on the other hand I've run into some very superstitious people who absolutely hate the holiday and think it shouldn't even been recognized or celebrated. Now for myself, I always have some sort of party that I attend, one with my family to celebrate my birthday and then later one with friends to celebrate the actual holiday itself. Sometimes it's a full costume party and others we get together and spend the evening watching as many horror movies as we can stand. Usually with the intent of freaking someone out, though that rarely happens. Still I think I love watching movies with friends the best, it's just a lot of fun to get together and watch horror films until we've had enough or we're too tired to stay awake for more. That's what we plan on doing tonight and I'm looking forward to it. As for beliefs or superstitions? I don't have any. I don' really believe in ghosts or witches or any of that stuff. That's why the movies are so much fun, since you know that zombies or other creatures aren't real. Anyway... what are your beliefs or superstitions, if any, and what do [I]you[/I] do on Halloween? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 [COLOR="DarkRed"]I do not celebrate Halloween nor does my family. I usually go door to door with my church for canned goods but it has been different the last two years. Last year I spent it with a friend because I was kicked out, and this year I will be at work at McDonalds cleaning the place before our big inspection from corporation. Last year was probably the worst Halloween ever, but we did watch Shaun of the Dead. It is probably a good thing that I will be at work tonight. I know that because of my Christian beliefs I need to steer clear from the horror genre, but I love zombies and vampires too much. They are my two favorite horror things...if you can call it that. What would you call it? Races? People? Altered Undead humans?[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Shears Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 [COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="1"]I've gone trick-or-treating almost every year. Free candy and an excuse to hang out with a ton of people are reason enough to dress like a fool and walk for hours. I never really did the typical "teenager" thing where you TP houses or egg cars. Those are saved for more inconspicuous days...:smirk: As for ghosts and such, yes, I do believe in paranormal things. I've seen apparations and such, along with alot of my family. They have never really frightened me, just piqued my interest. I am pretty interested in the urban myths about haunted places. If you have ever been somewhere and you felt something paranormal, you are scared but intrigued. That is why it is so fascinating.[/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 When I was little we would go trick or treating with friends who lived in town. It would really be lame to trick or treat in my neighborhood since our closest neighbor was a mile away. Darn farm land! My parents didn't have any objections to us (my bro and I) taking part in Halloween parties and stuff. They saw it as a bit of fun, not as "Satan's Holiday". As an adult my husband and I buy several of those big bags of candy and pass them out until they are gone. We get tons of kids since I live in an area that is pretty much ideal for trick or treating. The houses aren't too far apart, well lit, wide sidewalks and since it's all housing around here there isn't fast moving traffic. We make some hot cocoa and sit in front of our big picture window and watch the kids come and go from the neighborhood. My favorite recent memory of Halloween came from this little boy who was dressed as Spiderman. My hubby answers the door and says "It's Spiderman!" and the boy took his mask off and in a really serious voice says "Oh no, I'm not the real Spiderman". He said it in a way that came across like he didn't want us to think he was lying. It was so cute we gave him a big handful of candy for being so honest and cute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 [font="trebuchet ms"] I stopped trick-or-treating after 8th grade, but I plan to do it for fun when I get to college. lol I don't really [i]miss[/i] trick-or-treating because I'm not a huge candy maniac like most other high schoolers, so I'm not too bummed about it or anything. My neighborhood doesn't have a lot of Halloween festivities either, since it's sort of small and there aren't a lot of kids. But some of my friends' neighborhoods can get packed with cul-de-sac hangouts and little kids. Now my friends and I have an annual scary movie party, which is just as fun. I love watching terrible horror movies with my friends, they're so easy to make fun of. [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangome Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 [size=1]I do not celebrate Halloween, nor does my family, mainly due to Christian beliefs. However, just [i]once[/i] I'd like to go Trick-or-Treating, just to see what it's like. I tell people I've never been and they look at me like I've lost my fricken mind. I've worn costumes, yes, but never out of the house. My friends are all going Trick-or-Treating tonight [to be honest, they're [i]TOO OLD[/i], but what can you do?]...but at least one friend has promised to get me a bunch of candy. So I can't complain. :catgirl: I might watch Nightmare Before Christmas or Corpse Bride later, if they're on. Oh, and happy birthday, haha~[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberinkula Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 [COLOR="77656"]Funny, most Christians I know do Halloween. My VERY Riligious grandmother asked me if I'm going trick-or-treating a few years ago. And her and God are tight. She has't been to riligious lately though, she's toned down a bit. I bilieve that we stole the holiday and made it our own. But no one cares much anymroe. All Hallows Eve is old news I guess. Next year I'm going to be Nathan Explosion or Toki Wartooth from Metalocalypse. Metal up our halloween. Sadly this year isn't the most fun. I HATE trick-or-treating wiht a passion. But I don't miind dressing up.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"]Halloween has always been a favorite if not my most favorite holiday of the year. My birthday is on the first so I grew up having Halloween themed birthday parties. So I always got a double and triple dose of the holiday since the month would start off with the birthday party and then there would be a school event where we'd have a haunted house and all sorts of activities. And then the third would be the actual day when my dad would take me and my siblings around trick or treating. We always had so much fun. It's always been a tradition to decorate and dress up though I don't always do that every year, though if it's possible I do. I love going to costume parties now that I'm older, or the scary movie deal since I love those too. This year I think is going to be extra fun since I'll be doing the movie deal with new friends I've made this year. I never worry over superstitions since I just don't believe in stuff like that. I have too much fun picking apart so-called scary movies. It's supremely fun to predict who will die first in horror films. lol [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thMan Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Well, i used to go trick or treating and get a giant bag full of candy each year and absolutely loved it. All the candy, going out with my siblings for a night of fun and mischief, throwing up while sleeping and almost choking to death on chewed up bits of candy. It's all good, baby. Unfortunately i don't do that any more. I'm too old for it and i'm in college. Honestly i think i would go trick or treating if i was home right now, i'd love to go along with my brothers. And if somebody looks at me like i'm crazy i'll just bite their heads off and drink their sweet blood. As for superstitions, not only do i not believe in any i actually have a problem with people that do believe in them... Peope think promoting superstition is harmless, and it truly isn't. I won't get into it too deeply here as that's really not the point of this thread. God, i miss my childhood. =D [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Faye Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [color=#9933ff]My mom's pretty Catholic but she's never had a problem with Halloween, and she' pretty much encourages it. I've always gone to trick-or-treating followed by parties and friend's houses, every year, and I know I've hosted a few of those parties - my mom really getting everything together. I'm not a giant candy fan, so the aspect of Halloween that most appeals to me is the dressing up part. I love pretending to be something that I usually am not. It's a lot like cosplaying, but to a much free-er extent (since you can be ANYTHING). I actually have a rule that I don't cosplay anyone on Halloween, but make up my own costume. And ever since I started cosplaying, I've been sewing my costumes for Halloween. First time was a horrible attempt at lolita, which turned into "creepy doll," then I was mermaid (^_^), and last year I was a Ninja, with the sign "I am Ninja, you can't see me." This year is based on the Venice Carnival. As for superstitions, I completely believe in ghosts, think that Oujia boards are a bad idea, and anything else I'm doubtful of/ only marginally superstitious.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spectacular Professor Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [quote name='MistressRoxie'][color=#9933ff]My mom's pretty Catholic but she's never had a problem with Halloween, and she' pretty much encourages it. I've always gone to trick-or-treating followed by parties and friend's houses, every year, and I know I've hosted a few of those parties - my mom really getting everything together.[/color][/QUOTE] More power to her! I've never understood why so many Christians hate the holiday so much. I am a Christian, and yet here I am in front of my laptop typing this whilst wearing a makeshift pirate outfit. Sure, the "horrid satanists" started this thing, but does anyone talk about that aspect much in the mainstream media anymore? It's not satanic, it's a citywide cosplay convention with free candy. I'm only handing out this year, but I'm lookin' good doing it. I suggest we just ignore the outcries of dead superstitions. Give the children candy. They won't bite. Or drag you down to Hades either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thMan Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [quote name='MistressRoxie'][color=#9933ff] As for superstitions, I completely believe in ghosts, think that Oujia boards are a bad idea, and anything else I'm doubtful of/ only marginally superstitious.[/color][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]There's actually a very easy way to test the legitimacy of Oujia boards. Put on a blindfold of everybody participating, spin them around some, then spin the Oujia board around some and see what happens. Of course you'll need somebody else to watch that's not participating and is preferably neutral on the Oujia board thing. I guarantee you'll get nothing but giberish. [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Faye Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [color=#9933ff]13th man - I completely see what you're saying; I should have been more specific. I think doing a [i]seance[/i] with a oujia board, or using one in a place that is *known* to be haunted is a bad idea. And when I say Oujia, I'm not just talking about the parker brothers version (not very creepy anyway), but any form of Oujia (homemade, whatever). >>[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thMan Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [quote name='MistressRoxie'][color=#9933ff]13th man - I completely see what you're saying; I should have been more specific. I think doing a [i]seance[/i] with a oujia board, or using one in a place that is *known* to be haunted is a bad idea. And when I say Oujia, I'm not just talking about the parker brothers version (not very creepy anyway), but any form of Oujia (homemade, whatever). >>[/color][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]You can still perform the experiment in a seance setting or in a haunted area. Oujia boards are just made to read on subconscious desires of the people involved. I have a problem believing in things that have been thoroughly debunked in science. Don't you think if Oujia boards were legit there would be wider use of them? I know the military would try to channel the spirits to help 'em with the ded gurn terrorists and find that thur Osama! And by the way, what would you consider as being "known" haunted? There's no place proven scientifically to be haunted... or at least that i've heard of. Actually, i was listening to a bit about haunted places today on my weekly podcast. A skeptic went and checked out one of these places that are "known" to be haunted and found absolutely nothing. It seems that those that want to believe believe and those that don't don't. Would that be possible if the place were actually haunted? ::shrug:: I'm not claiming to know how these things work, but i (and others) have gotta ask these questions. [/FONT][/COLOR] [QUOTE=The Skeptic's Dictionary][U]Ouija board[/U] [I]If there really is an afterlife, I'll bet the best way to contact it is through a plastic, mass-produced board game from Milton Bradley! --Mad Magazine[/I] A Ouija board is commonly used in divination and spiritualism, often by friends out to have some fun. Sometimes users become convinced they've been contacted by the spirit world. The board usually has the letters of the alphabet inscribed on it, along with words such as 'yes,' 'no,' 'good-bye' and 'maybe.' A planchette, a small 3-legged device with a hole in the middle or a pointer of some sort, is manipulated by those using the board. However, users often feel the planchette is moving of its own accord rather than responding to their own unconscious muscle movements (ideomotor action). The users ask a "spirit" a question and the pointer slides until it stops over "yes" or "no" or a letter on the board. Sometimes the selections "spell out" an answer to a question asked. Some users believe that paranormal or supernatural forces are at work in spelling out Ouija board answers. Skeptics believe that those using the board either consciously or unconsciously move the pointer to what is selected. To prove this, simply try it blindfolded for some time, having an innocent bystander take notes on what words or letters are selected. Usually, the results will be unintelligible. The movement of the planchette is not due to spirits but to unconscious movements by those controlling the pointer. The same kind of unconscious movement is at work in such things as dowsing and facilitated communication. [/QUOTE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Faye Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [color=#9933ff]Kay. You believe that and I'll believe in the fact that it's a bad idea to use Oujia boards at a seance in a haunted place. =) I already know you're not superstitious, so why do you have to attack [b]me[/b] and no one else who's said they believe in things? It's kind of like arguing with a Catholic that there is no God. It's moot; don't be a brat.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [quote name='Rachmaninoff']what are your beliefs or superstitions, if any, and what do [I]you[/I] do on Halloween?[/QUOTE]Well to be honest I don't really have any beliefs about Halloween in general. I see it as nothing more than a day for people to not be so serious and just have some fun. It probably helps that I am not superstitious. I was when I was a kid, but as time went by I became less and less convinced in ghosts or other such things. Enough that I've long since left any belief in such things behind. I like to put up decorations on the actual day and hand out candy to the kids who come trick or treating. But perhaps the thing I miss the most is doing school carnivals for Halloween. With each of my children the mothers who were involved in the activities for the school would organize a school wide carnival. Now, they have quit doing much if anything on the Halloween holiday. The classrooms are still decorated and kids come dressed up for school, but no more activities later at night on the Friday closest to the actual holiday. I find it disappointing since the change came from, and I'm sorry to say this, but narrow minded overly religious fanatical parents who made such a fuss that the school's had no choice but to stop doing a lot of the activities that I use to help organize. We've had the same problem with the current ward of the church I am in. Halloween this year was pretty sad actually and all of about 15 kids showed up at my door last night. Usually I get at least a hundred. My only consolation is that other church wards and schools are not cursed with parents who would ruin the fun for everyone. Honestly, it's the first time I've wished some of my neighbors would move and live elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horendithas Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Rachmaninoff;795777]On the one hand it's my birthday [/QUOTE]Same here, though I'm older than you [[SIZE="1"]even if it's only by an hour and a half[/SIZE]] so you're still a brat. :p [quote name='Rachmaninoff']what are your beliefs or superstitions, if any, and what do [I]you[/I'] do on Halloween?[/quote]None since I don't believe in superstitions at all. They are fun if only for all the silly movies made, but beyond that they have no place in my life. As for what I actually do on the day, it varies. My family lives on the east side of the US so I don't get together with them like I use to. I kind of miss all the fun stuff I use to do with my brothers when I was a kid as well as how much fun the town I lived in was when I was growing up. Unlike here, though there are plenty of areas in SLC that really get into it, everyone back home really gets into Halloween. The town is always just decked out with all sorts of fun stuff and the actual day was great since seeing someone out of costume was unusual. Not like my first lame Halloween in Utah where I went to school dressed up only to realized only a handful had done so as well. Anyway, now I do a combination of things. Starting with dressing up for the day and either finishing by attending a party or doing a scary movie deal like I did last night with Rach, Beth and other friends. It was a shame that Halloween fell on a school night, I ended up having to bail in order to get some sleep so I wouldn't be a zombie for school this morning. lol[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thMan Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [quote name='MistressRoxie'][color=#9933ff]Kay. You believe that and I'll believe in the fact that it's a bad idea to use Oujia boards at a seance in a haunted place. =) I already know you're not superstitious, so why do you have to attack [b]me[/b] and no one else who's said they believe in things? [/color][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]I apologize if i came off as personally attacking you, sincerely i do. I thought i was attacking Oujia boards... perhaps i could've used a saw? Aha! I made a funny! Ok.... Listen, it's my personal opinion that people should not be offended when their beliefs are "attacked." I use quotation marks here because i don't actually believe i was mean or offensive about it at all. I was blunt and honest, but not at all insulting. If i were insulting then i would certainly be a jerk-off. I wasn't attacking you in any way, unless of course you define yourself through your beliefs and i hope that you do not. I certainly don't judge you on your beliefs! =D The reason i started on about the Oujia boards is simply because there's an easy way to disprove it. It's a bit more tricky to disprove ghosts. [/FONT][/COLOR] [quote name='MistressRoxie'][color=#9933ff] It's kind of like arguing with a Catholic that there is no God. It's moot; don't be a brat.[/color][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]This is a false analogy. Arguing against Oujia boards is nothing like arguing the existence of God to a Catholic. Oujia boards can be disproven (or proven) experimentally, in the manner that i described. There is nothing one can do to prove or disprove the existence of God (Which is why ID is not science, btw). I don't believe it is moot beyond what we already discussed. Of course, you can disprove me by carrying out the experiment and proving positive results. Otherwise, no, very un-moot. [/FONT][/COLOR] [quote name='MistressRoxie'][color=#9933ff] don't be a brat.[/color][/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]I know you are, but what am i!? =P [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmaninoff Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 [quote name='The13thMan;795892][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]The reason i started on about the Oujia boards is simply because there's an easy way to disprove it. It's a bit more tricky to disprove ghosts. [/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]That's got nothing to do with this thread though.[QUOTE=The13thMan'][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]This is a false analogy. Arguing against Oujia boards is nothing like arguing the existence of God to a Catholic. Oujia boards can be disproven (or proven) experimentally, in the manner that i described. There is nothing one can do to prove or disprove the existence of God (Which is why ID is not science, btw). I don't believe it is moot beyond what we already discussed. Of course, you can disprove me by carrying out the experiment and proving positive results. Otherwise, no, very un-moot.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]No, very moot. You've missed the point, this is not about arguing in circles over whether or not something can be disproved. You're taking this far more seriously than is necessary and going off on a tangent while you're at it. If you really want to argue the point of proving whether or not a superstition can be disproved or not, then start a thread on it please, instead of insisting on telling someone they are wrong in a thread that isn't about that to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberinkula Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [COLOR="77656"]Yeah, Rack & Indiff, I wished you two a happy birthday. It's still in my sig. :) But you two play nice! Well, our halloween aftermath brought break-ups and good-things? But yeah, Milton Bradly may make oujia boards, but some places make real ones, so... [COLOR="DarkOrange"]WHUDAFXUP[/COLOR]? I bilieve in ghosts and all that crap, I'm a superstitious nutcase, hell a UFO has flown over my house before.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 [COLOR="goldenrod"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]What do I believe? That Halloween is a holiday and not much else. XP I'm not superstitious at all, even if scary movies creep me out to no end. >_> I just avoid watching them as much as possible. lol It's stupid really, I don't believe in ghosts, zombies or such things and yet those type of movies bug me. Anyway, I usually dress up, though this year I didn't, I just didn't feel like it. Especially since the church sponsored event was pretty pathetic this year. :animesigh And like my mom said, we got about zero kids coming around. I did watch some movies, but mostly I just goofed off online. I did have fun chatting with Ikillion and r2vq though. :catgirl: [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thMan Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 [quote name='Rachmaninoff']That's got nothing to do with this thread though. [/QUOTE][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Well... i know you started this thread so it really is rather arrogant for me to disagree with you here. But you did say this was a thread about your beliefs and superstitions. Well, one of my beliefs is that Oujia is bogus. At the least you could see how i failed to realize how far off a tangent i was going. Though i did figure i was at least starting to. [/FONT][/COLOR] [quote name='Rachmaninoff'] No, very moot. You've missed the point, this is not about arguing in circles over whether or not something can be disproved. You're taking this far more seriously than is necessary and going off on a tangent while you're at it. If you really want to argue the point of proving whether or not a superstition can be disproved or not, then start a thread on it please, instead of insisting on telling someone they are wrong in a thread that isn't about that to begin with.[/QUOTE] [COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]There's actually no circles to be seen here. It can be disproven, period. No loop, not even an ellipse! As for the mootness, it can get quite circular there (and even though i have no problem going in circles for the sake of clarity and better understanding) so i won't go on any further there. I'm actually not so much telling the person that he/she's wrong as i am trying to explain an easy way to figure out for yourself if it's right or wrong. My appoligies if i've offended anybody. Oh, and as a side note: Oh no! I'm being modded!!! =0 [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmaninoff Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 [quote name='The13thMan'][COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]There's actually no circles to be seen here. It can be disproven, period. No loop, not even an ellipse! As for the mootness, it can get quite circular there (and even though i have no problem going in circles for the sake of clarity and better understanding) so i won't go on any further there. I'm actually not so much telling the person that he/she's wrong as i am trying to explain an easy way to figure out for yourself if it's right or wrong. My appoligies if i've offended anybody. Oh, and as a side note: Oh no! I'm being modded!!! =0 [/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]Okay, I'm not going to repeat myself here, this is not the point of this thread The13thMan and you know it. You're arguing just for the sake of arguing. You want to discuss it, start another thread and stop coming back to it. Saying you don't believe in something is fine but to continue to correct someone who doesn't agree with you is unnecessary and rude really. We got your point the first time and the repeats are pointless. Further posts going down this same path will simply be deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 [font="trebuchet ms"] All I really get paranoid about at Halloween is whether or not a bunch of idiots start something stupid and kill my dog or something. It's happened around here before, so I always make sure to put my dog inside the house on Halloween. [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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