Discuss The Almagest Legacy: A Steampunk RPG

[Gavin]

[quote name='SunfallE'][COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"]It was of course sent the night before, so perhaps he'll get it first thing in the morning? [/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[SIZE="1"]Perhaps, the Sentinel is still in the aerodrome, so if Alexander has the message marked as urgent, Daedalus may get it in the middle of the night. Quite a nice thing to be woken up to.

Yep, Fonty, you'd better have some good answers for your dear uncle, or you may just disappear like your predecessor Mason.[/SIZE]

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Gavin'][SIZE="1"]Perhaps, the Sentinel is still in the aerodrome, so if Alexander has the message marked as urgent, Daedalus may get it in the middle of the night. Quite a nice thing to be woken up to.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]Yes he would have and there are some details I forgot to tell Beth to include when we discussed it. Not only would Alexander have marked it urgent, the reason it wasn't sent until the end after they finally left Rosengard for the night is he would have commandeered the darkroom and insisted on making a copy of the picture to be included with that message for Daedalus.

He's concerned that if he only hands it over to his superior officer that the news will be suppressed. Since Grants is a member of the Underdogs after all. By his reasoning, with Vincent dead, he figures that Daedalus the only one he can truly trust.

[Malkav]

New landmark posted. If someone wants to rp its delivery to Bavaria that would be much fun.

[Gavin]

[quote name='Rachmaninoff']He's concerned that if he only hands it over to his superior officer that the news will be suppressed. Since Grants is a member of the Underdogs after all. By his reasoning, with Vincent dead, he figures that Daedalus the only one he can truly trust.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="1"]Yeah, I can see after everything that's occurred within the Guard of late, Alexander would see Daedalus as probably the best person to hand it over to. Poor Daedalus though, all he wanted was a nice quiet retirement to live out with his wife, damn Leonhart always making his brother's life awkward. *Shakes fist*[/SIZE]

[Horendithas]

[COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Malkav']New landmark posted. If someone wants to rp its delivery to Bavaria that would be much fun.[/QUOTE]So it seems, and I recall a certain someone asking us why we hadn't tried to solve this little landmark that showed up so long ago:
[IMG]http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee132/Runaway511/almagest/poemschronicle.png[/IMG]
And it was commented on that we needed more in order to be able to even solve it, indicating it was just part of a puzzle. So... considering this tidbit in one of Shy's posts:[quote name='Shy'][size=1]A palace messenger rushed down the hallway, carrying a folded slip of paper in his hand.

?[b]Princess! I have an important correspondence from New Czenoble.[/b]?

Augustine quickly snatched the paper from the boy?s hand, discovering that it had been sealed with the symbol of a dove.

The messenger kneeled, ?[b]I was instructed that you would know who sent it, my lady.[/b]?

Augustine quickly broke the seal and opened the note, discovering several lines of [SIZE="2"][B][U]sheet music[/U][/SIZE][/B] printed across it. Her demeanor changed suddenly as [SIZE="2"][B][U]she read the notes on the page[/U], [/SIZE][/B]and a sly grin spread across her face.

"[b]Today it begins.[/b]"[/size][/QUOTE]I would say that this is probably the more that we need.

[IMG]http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee132/Runaway511/almagest/music-landmark.jpg[/IMG]

So if I'm right, the only problem I see is I can't read sheet music. So for those of you that can [I]-I'm looking at you Rach-[/I] I say it's time to finally figure out what that blasted poem means. [/COLOR]

[Raiha]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]From the middle of the sea translates musically into 'Middle C.' Which is the center note on a keyboard from whence most musical training begins.

A half step is a space down directly from one note to the one immediately next to it. Whether a sharp [black key] or otherwise. Down means to the left, but turning back up means the exact opposite...obviously.

The significance of 26 is still unclear to me, but there are only 6 musical notes in all. C, D, E, F, G, A, B. Unless it means just 26 half steps upwards.

But as far as minim goes, it's just another word for half note.

And that's as far as my musical theory training [12 freaking years of piano] will go.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[Aaryanna_Mom]

[quote name='Raiha'][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]From the middle of the sea translates musically into 'Middle C.' Which is the center note on a keyboard from whence most musical training begins.

A half step is a space down directly from one note to the one immediately next to it. Whether a sharp [black key] or otherwise. Down means to the left, but turning back up means the exact opposite...obviously.

The significance of 26 is still unclear to me, but there are only 6 musical notes in all. C, D, E, F, G, A, B. Unless it means just 26 half steps upwards.

But as far as minim goes, it's just another word for half note.

And that's as far as my musical theory training [12 freaking years of piano] will go.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]I've been looking at this all morning and I believe I've figured it out so bear with me here. As you said Raiha, the first line is referring to the middle C on a piano.

The steps indicating that one goes down and then turns and ascend, alluding to 26 is something I take to mean the alphabet, literally. That you are to assign a letter to each key starting from just below middle C. A half step at a time. Which of course means each key, including the black ones.

Then the final line, with minim glory leading the way, means that using that scale, only the half notes are to be counted when it comes to being a letter in the alphabet. Since minim is just another word for half note. By doing this... I get the following message out of the sheet of music.

[B]Find it in Mount Grail[/B]

So unless I am wrong, this is what I believe the message to mean. It took me a while to realize that the other lines were indicating where to assign a letter of the alphabet to the keys, in place of the normal letters assigned to them.

[Raiha]

[quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']I've been looking at this all morning and I believe I've figured it out so bear with me here. As you said Raiha, the first line is referring to the middle C on a piano.
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[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]*dances a merry jig with you across the hallway*

Ahah! Lady Catharine and Macey Ellen for the win! WE WIN! HAHAHAHA!

Actually any time the number 26 is thrown out there in a clue, it's always invariably related to the alphabet. Ah well. We win. Too bad that's like the most vague clue ever.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[Aaryanna_Mom]

[quote name='Raiha'][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Too bad that's like the most vague clue ever.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]No, it's all within very basic music theory. Simple and to the point if you understand it. Be nice dear. Someone put a lot of work into preparing this surprise for us and I enjoyed it. I had my answer to the clue before I signed in just now, since I made a copy this morning and didn't return online until I had the answer.

[Raiha]

[quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']No, it's all within very basic music theory. Simple and to the point if you understand it. Be nice dear. Someone put a lot of work into preparing this surprise for us and I enjoyed it. I had my answer to the clue before I signed in just now, since I made a copy this morning and didn't return online until I had the answer.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]I meant 'find it on mount grail' was vague. Not the actual plot clue itself, I thought that was very well done, and fun because I actually figured it out.

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[Aaryanna_Mom]

[quote name='Raiha'][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]I meant 'find it on mount grail' was vague. Not the actual plot clue itself, I thought that was very well done, and fun because I actually figured it out.

[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]I see. ;) And yes that part is very vague. I agree. I thought you meant the clue hun. Sorry about that, but then as a teacher, I was admiring how simple and yet fun the poem and sheet of music fit together. So I thought you were referring to that, since it was what I was thinking about.

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='indifference'][COLOR="Indigo"]So if I'm right, the only problem I see is I can't read sheet music. So for those of you that can [I]-I'm looking at you Rach-[/I] I say it's time to finally figure out what that blasted poem means. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]You can stop that... looking at me that is. >_> I'm not the one who was training to be a concert pianist before things in one's life got in the way. That is Kathy, who I see has solved it. Anyway, yes I can read the music, even if the piano is not something I can play, well other than to peck out a simple melody. XP

Anyway, like Raiha said, it's a pity that the actual message itself is a bit on the vague side. Makes me wonder if there is more to it that will surface, making the message more than it seems. I mean there was that reference to a giant in that bedtime story that Aaryanna did in her post. The question here is... was it just a story?

[Shy]

[size=1]Special thanks to Rach for his work on the latest Landmark. He had it completed over a month ago, but I wasn't ready to put it out until we absolutely needed it.

Is it vague? Probably. Like so many other things in the RPG it seems to raise more questions than answer.

Oh, and [b]Rach/Beth[/b]: Feel free to follow up on my post if you want. Fonty doesn't have any new information about the photos, but he obviously wants to be as helpful as he can.

-Shy[/size]

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Shy'][size=1]Special thanks to Rach for his work on the latest Landmark. He had it completed over a month ago, but I wasn't ready to put it out until we absolutely needed it.

Is it vague? Probably. Like so many other things in the RPG it seems to raise more questions than answer.

Oh, and [b]Rach/Beth[/b]: Feel free to follow up on my post if you want. Fonty doesn't have any new information about the photos, but he obviously wants to be as helpful as he can.

-Shy[/size][/QUOTE]You're welcome... I'm not at all surprised that Kathy figured it out. XP Anyway, I'll follow up on what you did with Fonty when I post again. That should happen either later today or sometime tomorrow.

[James]

[font=franklin gothic medium]Giants in Mt. Grail? Hm...

I'm lost. But I still have to work out how to get Audrey out of prison, so I have my work cut out for me regardless. :catgirl:[/font]

[Shy]

[size=1]Just a friendly reminder: I guess there is some confusion about this, but every player is free to post right now. Sandy will be announcing the new Dynast ruler at sunset, so the characters have the entire day to go about their business and get into trouble.

-Shy[/size]

[Raiha]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Despite my total lack of coherence right now, I think I'll try posting anyway. Sort of. Macey would set aside some of her things, but don't panic and think she's moving right away.

Gustave has to announce it first. But she'll be reminiscing a tiny bit perhaps. And her servant'll go with her.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[Aaryanna_Mom]

[quote name='Sandy']I apologize if it upsets someone that I wrote Bavaria as the one who solved the riddle. It just felt most convenient that way. You guys did a fantastic job in solving it, nevertheless.

Now it all comes down to finding out just what it is that the Underdogs are forcing Leonhart to work with beneath Mount Grail. I can give you a hint: it's not "Let's All Live In Peace And Harmony"-potion. ;P[/QUOTE]No offense dear, but you could have asked us if we had an idea as to how we would have liked to see it done. Especially since we took the time to solve the puzzle in the first place. I realize you along with Shy created this rpg, but it is a bit frustrating to spend one's time on something like that without giving us a chance to implement it into the story. I find it disappointing that you did that actually, and far to convenient really.

There is something to be said for collaboration instead of only doing what you think would work. If that was going to be the case, then why bother having the clue for us to solve in the first place? I feel like I wasted my time now and I'm not happy with that feeling. :animesigh

As for what's under Mount Grail, considering what Daedalus does... I am quite sure it's not nice. If it was, the underdogs would not be wasting their time on it.

[B]EDIT: [/B]And before I forget, Catherine and Victoria are on their way to visit Gustave and Lucy. I left it open for either you James or for my daughter to follow up on that.

[Sandy]

I'm sorry, Kathy, but since the clues ended up with Bavaria and Gadget (not by my choice, really, as I tried to hand out the other clue to James), and the other characters are scattered across High Czenoble, it really [I]was[/I] most convenient this way.

Or would you rather have them send the clues to Catherine, without any apparent reason to do so? I can still edit my post if you have a better suggestion, though.

My point is, [I]you[/I] didn't waste your time, even though your character didn't participate in solving the riddle. The riddle was obviously meant for you [I]players[/I] to solve, not for the characters (since there were numerous other ways they could've found out that something was hidden inside Mount Grail). The kudos still belong to you, Kathy. ;D

I wish the characters could just come together to sort of "compare notes", so that they would actually know about these things happening to each other. That's why I'm not moving Gadget or Bavaria anywhere from Rosengard.

[Aaryanna_Mom]

[quote name='Sandy']I'm sorry, Kathy, but since the clues ended up with Bavaria and Gadget (not by my choice, really, as I tried to hand out the other clue to James), and the other characters are scattered across High Czenoble, it really [I]was[/I] most convenient this way.

Or would you rather have them send the clues to Catherine, without any apparent reason to do so? I can still edit my post if you have a better suggestion, though.[/QUOTE]Oh honestly hun, what would have been so wrong with Bavaria asking the others at dinner time? So everyone could work on it? You?ve missed what I was saying. I find it hard to believe that the code for the Underdogs would be so easily broken.[quote name='Sandy']My point is, [I]you[/I] didn't waste your time, even though your character didn't participate in solving the riddle. The riddle was obviously meant for you [I]players[/I] to solve, not for the characters (since there were numerous other ways they could've found out that something was hidden inside Mount Grail). The kudos still belong to you, Kathy. ;D

I wish the characters could just come together to sort of "compare notes", so that they would actually know about these things happening to each other. That's why I'm not moving Gadget or Bavaria anywhere from Rosengard.[/QUOTE]I?m going to take exception to your implication that I didn?t waste my time and excluded the others. I know that?s not what you meant, but still. I talked to Beth, my daughter, Crystia and thus also learned that Gavin can?t read music. So there was more than just me solving it.

Anyway, I?m not going to argue over it anymore, I am still disappointed. Because you still could have posted asking us if we had any ideas, you?re still going on what YOU think would have been the best way to do it. *sigh*

[Sandy]

Sorry, but I didn't know there were many of you behind solving that riddle. I don't have access to your private messages, remember?

I can edit my post so that the riddle is not solved, the pieces are just brought together. Then the characters can take a look at them when they want. I think you'll do a better job at describing how it is solved than me, anyway. ;D

I guess I just didn't think it mattered who solved the riddle in-game when I posted, sorry for being inconsiderate. *goes to edit*

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Sandy']Sorry, but I didn't know there were many of you behind solving that riddle. I don't have access to your private messages, remember?

I can edit my post so that the riddle is not solved, the pieces are just brought together. Then the characters can take a look at them when they want. I think you'll do a better job at describing how it is solved than me, anyway. ;D

I guess I just didn't think it mattered who solved the riddle in-game when I posted, sorry for being inconsiderate. *goes to edit*[/QUOTE]Kathy caught me online as well... >_> I just conveniently had other things I had to do at the time. Since I already knew what it meant. XP

Personally it makes more sense to me that considering what's been learned, what with the photograph, Gadget telling Bavaria about Leonhart, etc. That at that point, it would make sense that all of them would be discussing it at dinner, at which time Bavaria could mention both the note and the sheet music.

At that point they could work on it together in an attempt to see if there is any meaning to the poem and the music. I know if it were me, after all that... I'd be curious as all get out to see if there was any meaning to it.

I may have made the clue more simple since it needed to be solvable, but I assure you, musically, that could have been extremely complicated and I can't imagine the Underdogs being that careless. If someone like Bavaria could simply solve it in only a few minutes, it wouldn't be much of a code really. ;)

[James]

[quote]And before I forget, Catherine and Victoria are on their way to visit Gustave and Lucy. I left it open for either you James or for my daughter to follow up on that.
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[font=franklin gothic medium]Cool. If I get to this post first I will make sure to include Catherine and Victoria - this should be a lot of fun. :catgirl:

As for the sheet music...I've honestly forgotten how to read it. I never minded others working it out.

I never did anything with the note because I wasn't given enough information to know what to include in the story. I couldn't work out what the poem meant in isolation, so it made little sense for Vincent to solve it or to be part of that - especially given what happened to him so suddenly.

Still, I'm pretty proud of those who did solve it. ~_^[/font]

[Rachmaninoff]

Looks like Gadget is going to be in trouble... What with Lady Bavaria contacting Commander Rosier in order to have the guard come to Rosengard. I have just one response to this new and interesting development...

*gets out the popcorn for watching the fun*

[Shy]

[quote name='Rachmaninoff']Looks like Gadget is going to be in trouble... What with Lady Bavaria contacting Commander Rosier in order to have the guard come to Rosengard. I have just one response to this new and interesting development...

*gets out the popcorn for watching the fun*[/QUOTE][size=1]Yeah, I'm sorry Sandy, but Gadget is way too suspicious to not have gotten himself into some trouble by now. I don't seriously expect him to be captured or anything (although that would be interesting) but I feel Gadget gave Bavaria more than enough evidence for her to call in the Guard.

Should be an interesting dinner for the Almagests.

-Shy[/size]