Discuss The Almagest Legacy: A Steampunk RPG

[Horendithas]

[COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Shy'][size=1]Yeah, I'm sorry Sandy, but Gadget is way too suspicious to not have gotten himself into some trouble by now. I don't seriously expect him to be captured or anything (although that would be interesting) but I feel Gadget gave Bavaria more than enough evidence for her to call in the Guard.

Should be an interesting dinner for the Almagests.

-Shy[/size][/QUOTE]I agree, way to suspicious! He can't possibly think that Lady Bavaria would do nothing after he told her he had been with the Starks no less. She would have no reason whatsoever to simply take his word for it and say nothing. Hehe, and since Rach got out the popcorn, I'll break out the drinks. It's too bad that Harrison is going to miss out on the fun. :p[/COLOR]

[Sandy]

I don't mind it, really. It's certainly plausible for Bavaria to do so. I just hope no one thinks I'm actually going to let Gadget get caught, especially now that he has learned to partially control his abilities.

But I'm going to have him talk with Eva first before the guards get there. I'm just wondering where Gadget could go now... He doesn't seem to have any friends in this game anymore. :/

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Sandy'] He doesn't seem to have any friends in this game anymore. :/[/QUOTE]Awww... we're just poking fun at the situation. Heh. It has nothing to do with him having friends or anything like that, it's the Drama factor! :D

Besides who says he doesn't have friends anymore?

[Sandy]

I meant he doesn't have friends in-game. Vincent's dead, Macey has other things on her mind, his parents don't want him around, and now the rest of the Almagests drive him away as well.

I suppose he could return to Vincent's flat, but I don't think it'll be too long before the RPGs come looking for him there as well.

[James]

[font=franklin gothic medium]I think he should re-join with Macey. I mean, yes, she's slowly developing contact with Gustave but he doesn't need to take up 100% of her time.

Besides, I'm sure she's worried about him and wonders where he is. She may be useful to him in the future.

Macey as a character probably needs to get a bit more involved in the core of the story anyway. So this may be a good way to do it.[/font]

[Horendithas]

[COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Sandy']I meant he doesn't have friends in-game. Vincent's dead, Macey has other things on her mind, his parents don't want him around, and now the rest of the Almagests drive him away as well.

I suppose he could return to Vincent's flat, but I don't think it'll be too long before the RPGs come looking for him there as well.[/QUOTE]It's not so much a matter of friends as it's a matter of the rest of the family not knowing who the hell he is. They don't want to drive him away, it's that they don't even know him. Gadget never spent any time or even really met some of the other family members other than in passing. And with the explosion at the labs, Leonhart missing and Gadget openly admitting he was with the Starks... How could they do anything but find him suspicious?

Anyway, follow James' advice, have him find Macey somehow. That seems like the best plan of action if you ask me. [/COLOR]

[Sandy]

Crystia, I wasn't complaining about Gadget not having friends, I was stating it as a fact. ;D I know they don't know who he is and I accept that they're suspicious, that's not my concern.

My concern was that I don't know where Gadget could go now. I didn't want Gadget to get caught because he has an important part to play in the end-game, and he couldn't do it if he was lying in prison (although he can turn invisible, he cannot walk through walls, heh). I suppose finding Macey is a good option, but only if D'Ann agrees to it. She seems to have her own plans.

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Sandy']My concern was that I don't know where Gadget could go now. I didn't want Gadget to get caught because he has an important part to play in the end-game, and he couldn't do it if he was lying in prison (although he can turn invisible, he cannot walk through walls, heh). I suppose finding Macey is a good option, but only if D'Ann agrees to it. She seems to have her own plans.[/QUOTE]I'd say he has a problem. :p Though hopefully he won't lose the ability to stay invisible, since it seems he still can't completely control his ability. I mean if he suddenly shows up naked somewhere, [I]that's [/I]going to attract attention. XP

Anyway... I'm sure you'll think of something. I mean you could have him use the tunnels running through out the mountain. There's no reason why Gadget couldn't find a way into them and simply hideout, that would put him out of sight and yet still keep him in the area.

[James]

[font=franklin gothic medium]I think part of the problem is that Gadget has spent nearly the entire RPG running and hiding - he has regularly played second-fiddle to other characters, rather than having his own defined story.

This is probably why you're now finding that he has nothing to do, Sandy. If he's useful to the end-game, that's fine...but I get the feeling that he's sort of hanging around doing nothing until his important time arrives. And that's kind of a waste in some ways, because when Gadget's significant "end moment" arrives, it could inevitably feel shoe-horned in.

This may be an opportunity to develop Gadget into a powerful, stand-alone character. My suggestion to join up with Macey was mostly based on the idea that at least, together, they are kind of symbiotic - they help to support each other.

However, this doesn't mean Gadget can't spend some time exploring his past further before the end of the game...or something along those lines, anyway.[/font]

[Raiha]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]They all talk about me like I'm not right here watching them.....watching.....watching.. ....daddy...?

Sorry, Freudian moment.

Anyway, if Gadget wants to find Macey, I suppose he could. But this begs the question. What exactly do you think she could do for him? She's in the same position as other Almagests, although less likely to obey Bavaria, she has no more REAL power over defying the law than anyone else.

Hiding him in the remnants of her lab is out. Hiding him at Vincen'ts is equally unwise. Having him just be invisible all the time isn't a great idea either. ALthough it would work mostly.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[Sandy]

Well, I'll figure out what to do with Gadget, but in the meantime I want that the Almagests get together and start to think of a way to get Leonhart back. Gadget could help them out with that, but that's just one option. ;D

[Shy]

[quote name='Sandy']Well, I'll figure out what to do with Gadget, but in the meantime I want that the Almagests get together and start to think of a way to get Leonhart back. Gadget could help them out with that, but that's just one option. ;D[/QUOTE][size=1]Yes, it seems that Gadget is the only one who knows where Leonhart is. I suppose if he reunites with Macey and/or Eva they could try to work out some sort of plan.

On a totally different note, Happy Birthday Gavin!

-Shy[/size]

[Gavin]

[quote name='Shy'][size=1]On a totally different note, Happy Birthday Gavin!

-Shy[/size][/QUOTE]

[SIZE="1"]Thanks Josh, it's been a fairly good day overall.

Apologies for my absence lately, if you noticed or didn't, heh. Unfortunately I was actually in hospital since Tuesday afternoon and got out earlier this morning. I'll try and write up a post in the next while, thankfully Daedalus has plenty he can do, aside from beat his youngest son.[/SIZE]

[James]

[quote name='Sandy']Well, I'll figure out what to do with Gadget, but in the meantime I want that the Almagests get together and start to think of a way to get Leonhart back. Gadget could help them out with that, but that's just one option. ;D[/QUOTE]

[font=franklin gothic medium]Like Shy, I think this is a great idea.

And it serves a few purposes. One, it will give Gadget the chance to develop as a character. And two, it will make him [i]useful[/i] to the Almagest family - if only he knows where Leonhart is, then only he can lead the family there.

I'm sure Bavaria and others would overlook any suspicions they have if Gadget helped them so directly. It would prove, after all, that Gadget isn't a dodgy Underdogs member.[/font]

[SunfallE]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"]Actually Gavin... I'd say right about now would be a good time for Daedalus to show up for that chat with Alexander... XP Especially since he's gone and insisted on sticking his neck out like that. Getting involved in the mess with Bavaria.

I left it open so anyone can pick up on it, It could be Gustave arriving with Victoria Ann or even Catherine returning via carriage to Rosengard. I think having Daedalus show up would be the most effective though. What with him being so highly ranked in the military and all. A Captain in the RPG would not deter him I'm thinking. :p[/FONT][/COLOR]

[Sandy]

Gadget doesn't know exactly where Leonhart is, since he was taken to a different place (Camp Dobermann) than where the captives were held (they're in Camp Rottweiler at the underground city ruins). But with his abilities and connections to the Starks, he could very well get that information.

The other options are of course Alexander and Jack, or even cooperation with *gasp* Princess Augustine.

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Sandy'] But with his abilities and connections to the Starks, he could very well get that information.

The other options are of course Alexander and Jack, or even cooperation with *gasp* Princess Augustine.[/QUOTE]Uh, no offense, but son or not. Why would they give him that information? Especially when he's been experimented on by the Almagest's? Sorry, but I find that a bit hard to swallow that he could go to them and they'd say [I]oh, we're holding him here![/I] Blood relation or not, I would imagine that the location of those they kidnapped is a closely guarded secret and that only their most trusted members would know.

And Gadget is not a [I]'trusted'[/I] member, he just happens to be related to the Starks who until recently hadn't even had any contact with them at all. XP

[Sandy]

[quote name='Rachmaninoff']Uh, no offense, but son or not. Why would they give him that information? Especially when he's been experimented on by the Almagest's? Sorry, but I find that a bit hard to swallow that he could go to them and they'd say [I]oh, we're holding him here![/I] Blood relation or not, I would imagine that the location of those they kidnapped is a closely guarded secret and that only their most trusted members would know.

And Gadget is not a [I]'trusted'[/I] member, he just happens to be related to the Starks who until recently hadn't even had any contact with them at all. XP[/QUOTE]

That's not what I meant, heh. Of course they wouldn't tell him that outright - they didn't do it the first time around either. That's where Gadget's abilities would kick in, in the form of eavesdropping. But as I said, that's only one option.

[Shy]

[quote name='Sandy']That's not what I meant, heh. Of course they wouldn't tell him that outright - they didn't do it the first time around either. That's where Gadget's abilities would kick in, in the form of eavesdropping. But as I said, that's only one option.[/QUOTE][size=1]I have a plan for how this can all work out. Augustine is aware that Leonhart is alive, but probably doesn't know where he is being held. Also, I don't think anyone but a guarded few know the Princess' true intentions. Gadget and friends will have to find out about Leonhart's location somehow, although I suspect that it will prove to be incredibly difficult and dangerous for them.

Having said that, I'd like to see the announcement for the new Dynast ruler put up soon. There are some things I'd like to do with the princess that I cannot until Agron announces who their new King is.

-Shy[/size]

[Aaryanna_Mom]

Seems like Daedalus showed up at an excellent time. I wonder what Catherine and the others will think when they return only to find Rosengard essentially under siege. I would imagine finding the military there would be very alarming. At least until she realizes that it's Daedalus who is with them. ;)[quote name='Shy'][size=1]Having said that, I'd like to see the announcement for the new Dynast ruler put up soon. There are some things I'd like to do with the princess that I cannot until Agron announces who their new King is.[/size][/QUOTE]I would like to see it as well since I am curious as to how the Princess is going to react to the news that she was not selected to be the new Dynast ruler. I can't imagine her taking that news very well at all. That and once the announcement is up I would imagine it would be time for the parent teacher conferences to start at Chaos. It's going to be a long evening for Catherine with everything going on.

[Rachmaninoff]

[quote name='Aaryanna_Mom']I would imagine finding the military there would be very alarming. At least until she realizes that it's Daedalus who is with them. [/QUOTE]She's not the only one, I can assure you that Alexander was less than thrilled to see them, that is until he realized it was Daedalus. Seriously though, Alexander needs to stop getting into trouble. XP I say it's Beth's turn, even though Alexander is getting into enough trouble for both him and Alecia. *pokes Beth* :p

[Gavin]

[quote name='Rachmaninoff']She's not the only one, I can assure you that Alexander was less than thrilled to see them, that is until he realized it was Daedalus.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE="1"]Bah, with the way the Guard are acting of late, you'd think he'd be happy to see a more highly trained force. That, and at least we don't have to deal with traitors in our ranks. ^_~[/SIZE]

[Raiha]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]So, shockingly, I find myself experiencing something of a writer's block. But on the other hand, if James has ideas, or if anyone thinks she should jump off of a cliff to escape the crimson woe of it all, let me know.

I take requests. I'll be here all night![/FONT][/COLOR]

[James]

[font=franklin gothic medium]I think Macey is suffering slightly from similar problems to Gadget at the moment.

I feel that we are at risk of unreasonably shoe-horning Macey into various situations for no plot-based reason (i.e. the marriage with Gustave and so on).

What Macey needs, I think, are more of her own motivations. Perhaps her research could be part of that.

Considering that early on her research was portrayed as a major cornerstone of her life, it makes little sense that she'd pay so little attention to it throughout the RPG.

So maybe the answer is to look at her motivations and make some changes there.

As I said earlier it may be worth putting Macey and Gadget together again as a team. But that's entirely up to you...I can only really comment on what I observe, I don't know what you are or are not prepared to do with Macey.[/font]

[Raiha]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Well, as James and I considered over AIM, Macey still has her lab to address. Her notes on Gadget might force her to remember him and his issues, that and her return to the house will prompt people to tell her of the latest misfortune.

Too bad we can't find the invisible boy.[/FONT][/COLOR]