Rachmaninoff Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Now as for the Chimera's I have always assumed they were a mixture because of Chimera creation. Some with perhaps scales, some with feathers, some like horses or some like Chocobo's. And each race tailored to fit the type of Chimera being entered so there would be different types depending on the class or nature of the creature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [font=franklin gothic medium]I've edited some stuff out of that post, Rach. I'm sorry, but I think it is pretty clear that we've now moved past the debate with Sandy. I think all the various points have been made. Anyway, I actually like the idea of different classes. You could always have a simple distinction of quadropeds versus bipeds. I am not too worried about unfair advantage, just because we're already dealing with somewhat magical creatures anyway. If everyone else is okay for Chimaera to be put into these two categories, then we'll all be pretty free to create mixtures that we like. This way if any of us talk about them in future we won't be too restricted in terms of the kinds of animals we can create.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horendithas Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [COLOR="Indigo"]Time to get back on track and make sure that Lady Bavaria is dealt with! I mean seriously people... can you imagine her... as Queen? Perish the thought! We must band together and shove her over the edge of the section she will be in at the Chimera Cup just as a band of Chimera's go racing by... Being trampled to death by Chimera's would be a fitting end for a miserable creature like her! :p Oh and in case you've missed it here... I'm volunteering to have Harrison be the one who [I]'accidentally'[/I] pushes her over the edge![/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [COLOR="goldenrod"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Victoria volunteers as well! Down with Bavaria! Mwahahahahaha! And to keep this from being total spam... I agree with the suggestion of making the Chimera's two main classes and going from there. :catgirl:[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 I think you guys have nailed the idea of the chimaeras despite their description is so vague. They really are a combination of various animals, with the purpose of making them as fast and agile as possible. I don't see why bipeds can't race against quadrupeds, though, but it's your choice. ;D There's also the possibility of combining magitechnological parts to the chimaeras, which was something that Evangeline studied, at least to my knowledge. This of course gives those individuals an unfair advantage, but it's a race, not a charity. Also remember that the Chimaera Circuit has a director, [B]Thames Dreadnaught[/B], who's yet to be even mentioned. He's pretty much in charge of holding the Cup and everything. You're free to use him in your posts if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Okay so by bipedal I meant standing upright. Or maybe there could be several divisions of Chimaera activity. For example, Chimaeras that stand upright and can't be ridden except piggyback style. ....which sounds stupid. And Chimaeras that are capable of being ridden and whipped to go faster and turned into glue when they loose a race and break a limb...[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [size=1]I imagine that there are different classifications of chimaera, and thus there might be different events for each type. Flying chimaera obviously couldn't compete against ones without that ability, and they probably break things up by size as well. There might also be different obstacles, like hoops the racers have to fly through, so it could be much more exciting than a simple race. This is some great stuff so far, though. I'm eager to see what the final product looks like. -Shy[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [quote name='Sandy']Just to make it clear, it's only Princess Augustine Beauteous who's connected to the Underdogs. The Dynasty isn't [I]so[/I] inbred that it would start to rebel against it's own rule. XP[/QUOTE] [SIZE="1"]Oh well, at least now he can get away with executing her as a traitor eventually. I would if I can somehow spin it so that Bavaria was involved and execute her too ? *Muses*[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 [quote name='Neuvoxraiha'][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"] For example, Chimaeras that stand upright and can't be ridden except piggyback style. ....which sounds stupid.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] Ahem... [IMG]http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mi20060601a_cfr.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://static.battlelore.com/lang/french/images/bl_gob_ostrich_rider.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [quote name='Sandy']Ahem... [IMG]http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mi20060601a_cfr.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://static.battlelore.com/lang/french/images/bl_gob_ostrich_rider.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [SIZE="1"]I think she was referring more to Chimaera who stand vertically Sandy, like humans, as opposed to the examples you gave. Still, quadrupeds would definitely have the advantage if there's ramming and shoving involved.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 [quote name='Gavin'][SIZE="1"]I think she was referring more to Chimaera who stand vertically Sandy, like humans, as opposed to the examples you gave. Still, quadrupeds would definitely have the advantage if there's ramming and shoving involved.[/SIZE][/QUOTE] But I just wanted to show D'Ann that bipedal doesn't equal walking upright like she said. [quote name='Raiha']Well I suppose they'd have to be capable of being ridden, so not bipedal.[/quote] Besides, the chimaeras are hybrids of [I]animals[/I], and I can't think of any animal that would walk upright (besides us humans, haha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [quote name='Sandy']But I just wanted to show D'Ann that bipedal doesn't equal walking upright like she said. Besides, the chimaeras are hybrids of [I]animals[/I], and I can't think of any animal that would walk upright (besides us humans, haha).[/QUOTE] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Now whose nitpicking? Gavin's absolutely right in his interpretation of what I meant. Please don't misinterpret what I say merely to disagree or make yourself feel better. I wasn't anticipating arguing over figments of our imagination. Gorillas can walk upright as well on all fours. Werewolves are usually in the same vein, since we're talking fiction here. And bird hipped animals like Chocobos aren't actually considered bipedals if you want to get all [b]scientific[/b] on me. For that matter neither are lizard hipped Velociraptor like creatures such as those pictured above me. I'm not sure if flying Chimaeras sounds like a good idea though. They'd have to be in a dome or kept on invisible leashes or have jesses and hoods like flying hawks.[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [quote name='Sandy']Besides, the chimaeras are hybrids of [I]animals[/I], and I can't think of any animal that would walk upright (besides us humans, haha).[/QUOTE] [SIZE="1"]Most primates, as D'Ann pointed out with gorillas, use bipedal locomotion Sandy. That said, if chimaera races are primarily about speed, which I suspect they are, then obviously bipeds are at a disadvantage. I actually thought most of the chimaeras would be feline based.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [quote name='Gavin'][SIZE="1"]I think she was referring more to Chimaera who stand vertically Sandy, like humans, as opposed to the examples you gave. Still, quadrupeds would definitely have the advantage if there's ramming and shoving involved.[/SIZE][/QUOTE] [font=franklin gothic medium]In any case, being bipedal has nothing to do with standing upright. Bipedal just means an animal with two feet (this can include birds, primates and other groups). I don't see why we couldn't have bipedal Chimaera. My mind first runs to Chocobo-type creatures. Of course, they could be in their own class. So you could have Bipeds, Quadrupeds and Winged classes. This should also allow a lot of scope if anyone wants to use pictures.[/font] [quote]Now whose nitpicking? Gavin's absolutely right in his interpretation of what I meant. Please don't misinterpret what I say merely to disagree or make yourself feel better. I wasn't anticipating arguing over figments of our imagination.[/quote] [font=franklin gothic medium]To be fair, we were talking about quadrupeds. So Sandy's comments were right, in the sense that quadrupeds do not have to stand upright - the same being true for bipedal animals, which is a group that includes birds. As for flying Chimaera...I'm sure that's still possible. After all, this is a fantasy RPG. I'm sure a little Magitechnology can be incorporated to keep the Chimaera from simply flying off or whatever.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Moving right along before I have to start quoting the wikipedia page- and/or writing more 'Little Deaths' entries. Are we going to be using dinosaur like creatures? Or are we sticking to birds, mammals, and other fluffy and relatively cuddly things?[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 [font=franklin gothic medium]You can look up Wikipedia all you like - my definition of bipeds is accurate, if that's what you're referring to. Look it up in a dictionary. In my opinion we can go with anything. I think it would be great to have a variety of creatures. This way people are free to have a creature with feathers, scales, claws, hooves, etc etc... I figure that since there hasn't been a standard definition put down, we should just go with the guidelines we've discussed here.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaryanna_Mom Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I was going to ask what Chocobo creatures are, but I just googled it. I'm for having both, creatures like that and creatures that run on four legs. It would give things more variety in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmaninoff Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 [quote name='indifference'][COLOR="Indigo"]Time to get back on track and make sure that Lady Bavaria is dealt with! I mean seriously people... can you imagine her... as Queen? Perish the thought! We must band together and shove her over the edge of the section she will be in at the Chimera Cup just as a band of Chimera's go racing by... Being trampled to death by Chimera's would be a fitting end for a miserable creature like her! :p Oh and in case you've missed it here... I'm volunteering to have Harrison be the one who [I]'accidentally'[/I] pushes her over the edge![/COLOR][/QUOTE]Alexander volunteers to conveniently be looking the other direction when the commotion happens. Then when asked he can honestly say he didn't see what happened, well other than the part where she screams as she's trampled to death by the Chimeras racing by. :p Anyway, I don't intend to post again until after the next[I] 'drama'[/I] happens since in my opinion it would be more meaningless socializing and I already covered that in my last post, so I see no need to cover it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horendithas Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 [COLOR="Indigo"]Just a notice... I'm working on a fairly large post that includes a lot of characters... so if all of you could hold off on posting for a little bit... I'll come back and edit this once I'm done. It shouldn't be longer than another hour. :p [B]EDIT: [/B]And done, though that took a little longer than I expected. [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 [quote name='indifference'][COLOR="Indigo"][B]EDIT: [/B]And done, though that took a little longer than I expected. [/COLOR][/QUOTE][size=1]My goodness! I think you deserve an award for using so many characters in your post. Well done. -Shy[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 [quote name='Shy'][size=1]My goodness! I think you deserve an award for using so many characters in your post. Well done. -Shy[/size][/QUOTE] [SIZE="1"]Quite. [strike]I've got a bit of time today, so hopefully I should be able to whip up a post. I imagine despite his own mechanical leanings, Daedalus is probably still a fan of the races.[/strike] [b][Edit][/b] I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out, the majority of my posts seem to have a tone of misery to them, so it's nice to be able to get a happy family-themed one written.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 [font=franklin gothic medium]I'm currently writing my post and I'll have it up shortly, guys. I'm including some description about what the races are and all that, so hopefully it'll give everyone something to work with.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 [quote name='James'][font=franklin gothic medium]I'm currently writing my post and I'll have it up shortly, guys. I'm including some description about what the races are and all that, so hopefully it'll give everyone something to work with.[/font][/QUOTE] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Is this before or after Gustave greets all the Almagests? Or will that be included?[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 [quote name='Neuvoxraiha'][COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Is this before or after Gustave greets all the Almagests? Or will that be included?[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE] [font=franklin gothic medium]That'll be included. Should be up shortly. [b]Edit:[/b] Done! Sorry for the length, guys. Hopefully everything makes sense. If there are any issues please let me know. :catgirl: I've used this post to outline what the Chimaera races are and how they work (as well as some of the more underhanded stuff related to them). I've also introduced Thames Dreadnaught. And I've introduced a particularly nasty and infamous Chimaera jockey called Hugo Black. He's employed by the Dynasts. And I've introduced Gustave to the family. He will know some of the older members because he met them at Vincent's wedding. But he won't know everyone well. Please feel free to mix with him as you see fit. Oh, also...I imagine that Lucy will almost become Victoria Ann's pet. I think she'll become quite defensive of her too. Hopefully that is okay. :catgirl:[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Ah the possibilities are endless. And for the record, we've established that despite the fact that Lucy is partially bird, she DOES in fact have a sense of smell. So if you don't smell good and your name begins with L and your surname begins with M, I wouldn't recommend getting close unless you want your brains pecked out. *vacant smile at the image*[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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