Can you look at your self in the mirror?

[spy46]

Ok, I'm one of these few people that has to be the good guy.

I will help people if I can, just to help them, a real knight in armor type thing.

But as i look around me and at the world i notice that, people just suck.

It seams that every one is just out to get what they want, a quick ****, quick money, a quick laugh at your expence or any thing they can get with out being caught.

I am the oldest of 3 boys, the middle child that i will just call **** Face* is only 2 years younger than me.

He has a girl friend, tells her he loves her and so on and so forth, just one problem, he has ****** a girl that he has known for .... many years, this girl also has a boyfriend, a guy that i like and respect alot.

Because i am the way i am, many people call me a rat and so on, but i only offer information when some one asks me about it, dont ask me i dont tell you kind of thing, but with this ... i mean i know the guy that this girl *was* dateing, is it not the right thing to do to tell him that his girlfriend is not loyal to him?

I need to be able to look at my self in the mirror and be able to smile knowing that i have lived a good life, a respectiable life, an honorable one.

But i need some out side voices to give me their thoughts on this.

Do I expose my brother **** Face* as the back stabing pice of **** he is?

Or do I allow things to build up that once exposed could destroy my friend as he finds out his girl friend and a friend of his has betrayed his trust?

[John]

Do it, but for the right reason--because your friend deserves to know, not because you want to carry out karma on your little brother. It'll end up being good for him anyway.

[Odin M Yggdrasi]

I would look in the mirror, were it not for the fact that it breaks every time I do. It's just my face that does it is all.

That's one of those where don't tell him directly- instead get a middleman to do it, or even subtile hint untill he figures it out. Telling him directly [i]might[/i] make him hate you.

And somehow this whole story seems familiar, though I know for a fact that neither of my younger brothers even have a girlfriend.

[Korey]

[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]As a big brother myself (I'm the eldest of three), I feel it's your duty to tell poop face what he needs to know, because if it isn't told to him...he'd be living a lie and you would only be setting him up for disaster and much more anguish than if you told him right now. So go ahead, tell him. Spare his grief now instead of having him relish in how much time he spent living a lie.[/FONT]

[spy46]

Ok here is more of the story.

My brother's girlfriend cheated on him ..... about a year ago, so last night i guess he figured he would have sex with this other girl we both know just so that he could say they were now even.

The other girl as far as i know want actually dateing any one, the guy friend i was talking about wanted to but he crashed and burned ..... i just didnt know.

But now im worndering, i know why my brother was being an *** about it, so why was the girl that we both know helping him to get even with his girlfrined:confused:

I know that she does like him but i dont think she would date him.

I find all this very confusing, why would some one just do that AFTER A YEAR!

I can officially say i do hate my brother, he goes on and on about respect and all that but never gives any.

That idiot actually once told me that if i was ever going to get married, he would rape my wife to be just so that he could say he did it.

In truth, i can almost see him trying to do some thing like that .... woudl it be wrong for me to mortially harm him?

[The13thMan]

[COLOR=DarkOrange][FONT=Century Gothic]Ok, buddy, i'd first like to say that it is absolutely grueling reading your posts. There are way too many grammar and spelling errors in it, so much so that it affects the meaning of your message. I highly recommend you either do some proofreading or write your post in a word editing program like Microsoft Word. I recommend both for you. Don't take offense to this, though, i'm just trying to help.

Now, i don't have the greatest understanding of the situation, so i'll comment to my understanding of it.

It seems to me that you have a rather high opinion of yourself. I don't personally know if this is justified or not. But i would say that you should definitely make sure that you put a lot of thought into your actions when dealing in such emotional matters. Not everybody has the same ideals and morals as you, you must remember to respect that.

I believe you said that your brother is dating a woman who is cheating on him. And then your brother had sex with another girl to get even somehow? I guess this means he knows his girlfriend is cheating on him? If this is so, then i totally disagree with the logic there. I don't see how that makes the situation even. But if he thinks it's so then i (and you) have no right to intervene.

Uhm...if your brother doesn't know that his gf is cheating on him then i think you should confront his gf first. Talk to her and tell her that she needs to tell him what she's doing otherwise you will. I do think either way he should be alerted of it. I just think it would be better if the gf is the one to do it, and not you. It'd probably be embarrassing to your brother when he finds out other people knew about it when he didn't.

Anyways, i hope my advice helps, and uh... welcome to OB. =D
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[Justin]

Can I look in the mirror? So long as I'm not on acid.

Anyway, you should leave this situation alone, man. If the guy getting cheated on here is that good of a friend, just tell him, and then leave it alone. Aside of that, I have to agree with 13thMan here.

It sounds like you might be being a bit overbearring and judgemental.

Welcome to OB, man. We're honest.

-Justin

[Ravenstorture]

[FONT="Garamond"][COLOR="DarkGreen"]Sounds to me like the biggest problem here is the relationship you have with your brother! PLEASE think before you use the word hate, it is an emotion so strong that many do not feel it in their lifetimes and I really do hope you are spared from feeling this terrible emotion.

First of all, you don't need to 'expose' him or indeed tell ANYONE about his actions, as this may have no effect, or at most anger and alienate him. All you need to do is talk to him and express your concern at his actions. If he understands that what he is doing is wrong and hurtful, he may change. If he doesn't give a **** about anyone else's feelings, or about honesty, that's another problem all together.

You are his older brother. If he starts to wander off the moral path, it is your responsibility as someone close to him to help guide him back to it. From the sound of things however, your relationship with him seems far from you being able to give him advice. How does he feel about you? If you talked to him and said, "Hey man, I'm really concerned about what's going on in your life at the moment." then how would he react? You need to tell him why you are upset with the situation and then hopefully he might help sort it out himself.

If there is no chance that he'd listen to you, forget about everyone else, you need to fix your relationship with him. There is no point in being a good person if you can't do good for those around you.

When someone makes a mistake, they do not need to be punished - they need to understand what they have done wrong so they can fix it and learn from it. Otherwise he will be ****ing people over for the rest of his life, and how will you be able to look at yourself in the mirror knowing you did nothing to help?
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[Raiha]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]Ah, the L word. I never tell a man I love him unless we've been dating for more than just several months. If your brother's using the 'L' word, this begs the question.

HOW OLD ARE YOU PEOPLE ANYWAY?!

I always laugh when teenagers say the love each other. And since I'm not a fan of talking, I'll counsel you to just beat the snot out of your brother until he's so ugly he won't ever get a girl to cheat on ever again.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[spy46]

The13thMan: sorry about the grammer and all that, i was rushed to get to work so i really couldn't check every thing .... or any thing really.

As for my ... self standard, no I'm not the all high and mighty type but you won't find me trying to .... have sex with a friends girlfriend or taking money from some one when there not looking .... or even doing drugs.

I just like to know that I have and do try to help people out as best i can.

Now then, my brothers girlfriend cheated on him once about a year ago ... give or take.

Now that the 2 of them have finally calmed down he decided that he would have sex with the other girl just so that he could say he did or was able to cheat on her.

But to top that off, he did it on my Mom's bed because she is out of town.

My brother is nice and all, but lets just say I'm waiting to see when he tries to take a swing at a cop or some thing, if he can do some thing he will do it, like break into a local beach store and steal all the candy with some friends just because he wanted to eat some thing.

Ravenstorture: No i really don't hate my brother, but rather i can not trust him, and would not trust him to baby sit a 20 year old man that COULD take care of him self.

He is one of these punks that thinks that he is all that, no one can beat him he can do any thing and no one will stop him type thing.

But there are days when i am VERY tempted to .... harm him and because i know i can i don't want to.

Neuvoxraiha: I'm 23 and my brother is 21, and my other brother is only 16 just to clear any other questions about age.

I would not put it past my brother if he told the other girl that he loved her just so he could have sex with her, that is how much of an *** he is.

[Raiha]

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]My solution? Have him arrested by a cop. Nothing like a beating to fix things.

But on the other hand, I'd seriously suggest you either give him the 'I'm concerned' talk that Luci mentioned or ignore him completely and let him ruin his life. I've had friends with lots of younger brothers that were complete idiots/stoners. They were usually kicked out of their houses though. And the general consensus is that you can't do a thing to stop your brother from being a total jerkoff. Sorry.

But if you want to be cheered up, I recommend googling 'Tucker tries buttsex. Hilarity does not ensue.'[/FONT][/COLOR]

[spy46]

yeah .... My mom has made the comment that if he doesnt smarten up he would be out but i know she never could do it and i think he does too.

And he really does need some sence beat into him, but once some one is around that he knows can do it, and they know they can do it, oh you can bet your *** that he is MR nice guy and what ever.

He can run his craw (or is it kraw?) like who ever when no one is around that can more or less force him to shut up.:animesigh

[ChibiHorsewoman]

[color=#9933ff][font=lucida calligraphy]Okay first of all, yes I live again... damn work.

Second Ew! Lee! Paul did that in your mom's bed? That's just thirty-one different flavors of disgusting.

Third I think that you know as well as I do that telling Paul that April is cheating on him won't do much good because even if they do break up they will eventually get back together and there's nothing you or anyone else can do about it. It doesn't seem to matter that she's a two bit klepto with the personality of an extremely drunk Courtney Love (I've had the displeasure of speaking to her a few times.) He must not really give a damn and neither does she.

Lee I know that you don't hate your brother even if some of the things that come out of his mouth are more than a little distasteful. But I know that you know that no matter what you say he won't listen. But use your own judgment... or I can always tell him.[/color][/font]

[Ravenstorture]

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Yeah, there is no way a 16 year old boy of that description is going to listen to a word you say, but it's important to put the effort in - because when his entire life falls apart around him, and he ends up bleeding, alone or in jail at least [i]then[/i] he will know he can turn to you. And if he does, he will listen to you.

*waves to chw*
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[ChibiHorsewoman]

[quote name='Ravenstorture'][color="darkgreen"][font="garamond"]
Yeah, there is no way a 16 year old boy of that description is going to listen to a word you say, but it's important to put the effort in - because when his entire life falls apart around him, and he ends up bleeding, alone or in jail at least [i]then[/i] he will know he can turn to you. And if he does, he will listen to you.

*waves to chw*
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[color=#9933ff][font=lucida calligraphy]*waves back*

Well he's twenty, but that's still true. I've heard enough to know that there's not a chance Paul will listen unless something bad happens. Like really bad.

But Lee... Isn't he usually only that bad when he's drunk?[/color][/font]