Del Rey Contest

[Guest cilith]

I was wondering who the finalists were for that Del Ray art contest that ended earlier this month, on the NYAC they posted how they picked some, is there any information on the artworks chosen anywhere? If someone wins, how are they notified? @_@ I'm just curious! I hope that the only way isn't to attend the con, it's too far for me T_T *lives on west coast*

[SunfallE]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"]I would imagine that like everyone else, you will find out once the submissions are displayed at the New York Anime Festival. As it says in the rules for the contest:

[INDENT]4. SELECTION OF FINALISTS: Beginning on November 1, 2007 Sponsor will select 15 Finalists from all Submissions. Sponsor reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to select fewer than 15, or no, Finalists, if an insufficient number of eligible, complete, tasteful, appropriate or generally qualified entries are received. The decisions of the Judges are final and not subject to challenge or appeal. [B]All Finalists will be displayed at the New York Anime Festival with 1st Place, 2nd Place, and 3 Place winners chosen by attendee ballots.[/B] [/INDENT]

Anyway, I would imagine that once the contest is over, the sponsor's will notify the contestants as to who won. Just as I'm sure theOtaku will probably do a report on it over at theOtaku on the main page.

None of us can help you with this since we are not a part of the contest and do not know who the finalists are. So just be patient and you'll find out soon enough I'm sure. Also, to be clear, as far as I know, the list of who was chosen is not posted anywhere, though you're welcome to look through [URL="http://www.newyorkanimefestival.com/"][U]NYAF[/U][/URL]'s website to see if they've posted it. I took a look and did not find it posted.

[B]EDIT:[/B] Never mind, it seems that it's finally been posted here: [URL="http://www.theotaku.com/news/view/theotaku-del_rey-nyaf_fan_art_finalists_announced/3133/"][U]Finalists[/U][/URL] over at theOtaku. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[Guest poring]

I mean because, if it wasn't, how can people say [url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/view.php?id=230140[/url]
that's way better than:
[url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/view.php?id=230334[/url]
Or this:
[url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/view.php?id=224233[/url]

I don't mean to be criticizing the ones that did make it, but overall there are ones I think that should have made it in there in comparison. What was the actual criteria for the ratings?
P.S.
I wasn't in the contest, I don't draw >_> but I was just curios as a viewer :confused:

[Guest HopeAngelis]

I agree bro. Either it's rigged or these people with work that obviously shouldn't have won(not naming names, but it's obvious if you go and look you can see right off who should and shouldn't be there) have a lot of friends they tell to go vote for them. I didn't enter the contest, thankfully, because it seems these winners were picked out of bias opinion from friends. One of the artworks that won is barely even anime style, what a horrible contest. It kind of reminds me of a popularity newbie contest where whoever has the most friends despite the artistic ability and quality, wins. :animestun is this really a serious contest..?

[Allamorph]

[FONT=Arial]Why would the contest be rigged? More importantly, how would NYAF and Del-Ray go about rigging it if it was? And what purpose would "rigging" serve?

The criteria for the judging was not revealed to the public, aside from the requirements put forth in the announcements for the [URL="http://www.theotaku.com/news/view/epic_theotaku.com_anime_art_contest_announced/2686/"][COLOR="Blue"]art[/COLOR][/URL] and [URL="http://www.theotaku.com/news/view/epic_theotaku.com_fan_manga_contest_announced/2690/"][COLOR="Blue"]manga[/COLOR][/URL] contests. However, since the pieces had to make it through critiquing by all three involved parties (Del-Ray, NYAF, and theOtaku.com), the judging process should have been free of any unseemly bias, and I'm fairly certain that "rigging" would have been rather difficult to pull off.

Naturally there is a small element of bias called Personality to contend with any time judging is done, since art can only be appreciated by biased humans; but I fail to see any legitimate reasons either Del-Ray or NYAF might have for rigging their own contest, and the judging by the other party, as well as the representatives from theOtaku.com, should have eliminated the possibility for unfair bias.

It's understood that as spectators we will see entries that we feel should have placed higher. Our opinions will not necessarily line up with those of the judges, and to expect otherwise is unfair and foolish.

Personally, I do like the first linked image better, basically because the artistic style is more obviously original. The texture in the second image was fantastic, and certainly all three were very well done, but I think the style may have had somewhat to do with the selection. 'Tis only my opinion on that count, though.

[B]Edit:[/B] Also remember, these were [I][U]finalists[/U][/I], NOT winners. There is still another round of judging to go through before a winner is declared. And there was no rule stating that entries were required to be drawn in the anime style. The guidelines simply said [I]"work of art"[/I], which applies to more than just anime.[/FONT]

[Desbreko]

[color=#4B0082]This is Adam's comment on the [url=http://www.theotaku.com/news/view/theotaku-del_rey-nyaf_fan_art_finalists_announced/3133/][u]news post[/u][/url] on theOtaku announcing that the finalists have been chosen:[/color]

[quote name='Adam']In terms of process, key representatives of all three organizations (theOtaku, NYAF, and Del Rey) voted on their favorite entries and the 15 with the most votes were able to move forward.[/quote][color=#4B0082]So there you go. It would be difficult to rig a contest when there's three different organizations voting for the finalists, and then having NYAF attendees vote for the winner.[/color]

[The Spectacular Professor]

[quote name='Desbreko'][color=#4B0082]This is Adam's comment on the [url=http://www.theotaku.com/news/view/theotaku-del_rey-nyaf_fan_art_finalists_announced/3133/][u]news post[/u][/url] on theOtaku announcing that the finalists have been chosen:[/color]

[color=#4B0082]So there you go. It would be difficult to rig a contest when there's three different organizations voting for the finalists, and then having NYAF attendees vote for the winner.[/color][/QUOTE]

Even then, consider this: Not everyone has the same tastes in artwork as you. Rigging is beside the point because judging is based on personal preference, not "agree with me, you!"

Yeah, basically what Allamorph said.

[Aaryanna]

[COLOR="goldenrod"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][quote name='poring']I mean because, if it wasn't, how can people say [url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/view.php?id=230140[/url]
that's way better than:
[url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/view.php?id=230334[/url]
Or this:
[url]http://fanart.theotaku.com/view.php?id=224233[/url]

I don't mean to be criticizing the ones that did make it, but overall there are ones I think that should have made it in there in comparison. What was the actual criteria for the ratings?
P.S.
I wasn't in the contest, I don't draw >_> but I was just curios as a viewer :confused:[/QUOTE]That's only your opinion, and as others already said, it would be hard and pointless to rig something like this. And based on what Desbreko posted I would think it highly unlikely. Also, the third one you linked to is irrelevant. The artist is one of the finalists as one of their other pieces made the cut as you can see here: [URL="http://fanart.theotaku.com/view.php?action=retrieve&id=222296"][U]Link![/U][/URL] So it's not like they were overlooked or not even considered. They are a finalist! Just with a different submission!

No matter how the representatives Adam mentioned choose or vote, there's always going to be someone who is unhappy since they didn't make it in. You can't avoid it. Which is probably why they had representatives from each organization vote to help make it more fair. So in my opinion, I would have to say it wasn't rigged. And how anyone could think otherwise is beyond me since as Allamorph put it what would be the purpose? And frankly I don't see one. [/FONT][/COLOR]