Endrance Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Im the one named DeadBeat, please read this and give me advice.[/COLOR] ... says: the only thing im consentrating atm on doing is trying to make money to spend on lsd [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: lesbian sex dvd's? ... says: lolwat ... says: lsd ... says: acid ... says: lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: wtfyou doin with acid ya silly prick O_O ... says: its suppost to be kick ****** *** and i wanna try it [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: bettah wach outir ill pour some real acid on ya dick and melt it zomg D: ... says: and is the safest drug you can actually do ... says: =O [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: well do whatever, but dont talk to meever again rofl ... says: whyXD ... says: its suppost to be a life changing experience [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: i dislike people with drug desires, its faggsh D: ... says: makes you venture deep inside your mind [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: yeah lifechanging... inthewriongdirection... like the streets ... says: no but lsd isnt like any other drug ... says: its like ... says: epic [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: its like.... get a life ... says: no thats only with coke and meth whores ... says: not lsd-fafs ... says: fags* [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: well do whatever you want but seriously.... dont talk to me anymore O_O [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: if you dont mind me asking ... says: if it was meth or something id understand but dude its only lsd ... says: lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: who are you hanging round with ... says: friends ... says: no druggies btw [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: only lsd.... man sorry but i dont give a **** how weak it is ... says: lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: lall D: ... says: dude, marajuana's more dangerous than itXD [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: i dont care, still a drug [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: who told you this **** anyway ... says: meh ... says: no one lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: >_> [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: well wherethe **** did you get this gay idea [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: oure ****** up..... but i didnt actually think you were ****** UP ... says: its not even gay lsd is suppost to be kickass ... says: no downsides [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: xD ... says: whatsoever [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: except for gayness ... says: whatever, if it wasnt for lsd we wouldnt have the music we have today. ... says: it would be some gay *** beatles **** right about now. ... says: XD [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: what? Punk? I know you like that stuff but i couldent possibly give a **** ... says: no ... says: hendrix ... says: do you know how many genres and bands he influenced [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: who gives a fck every 10 yr guitarist is better than hendrix thesedays ... says: and no punk bands did lsd ... says: its not about how good he is as a player its that he influenced alot of modern day rock, which influenced metal ... says: so yeah [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: if itwere back in the henrix times we would all be considered fux prohlar ... says: put it this way, if people never did lsd there would be much less good music these days ... says: there probably wouldnt be a children of bodom [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: lsd has **** all do do with anything ... says: so yeah ... says: pwnt [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: COB never did lsd phag ... says: it does ... says: uhh [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: >_> ... says: ok ... says: let me explain again [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: no [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: xD ... says: hendrix did lsd which influenced him to make the style he did, psychadelic rock, which then went to influence other bands, which then influenced other bands etc. ... says: and its continued through time ... says: till now ... says: so yeah [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: so what your trying to tell me is, by taking lsd, you think your gonna get some phrlar guitarinspirationzuh ... says: no ... says: i never said that [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: so whatthe big picture of this wholelsd thing ... says: i was only stating its important cause you wee saying its gay [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: it is though [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: rtant [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: may be important* ... says: whatever ... says: lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: but sytill gay [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: just like Obama ... says: ive heard from loads of resources that its life changing experience and makes you delve into your mind ... says: so yeah [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: why dont you go delve int a ***** ... says: XD [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: see im clever ... says: why are you so against lsd lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: drug use = faggishness. And tbh i think its kinda gay that your doing this to 'delve' into youre mind.. theres other ways. ... says: there may be other ways but not as intense and lsd ... says: and i know drug use is faggish, i wouldnt dare do coke or heroin which are actual harmful drugs and can ruin your life whereas lsd is neither harmful or can ruin your life [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: wow you sound really gay right now. Dude, for whateverever other reasons... fine.... but jus finspiration is a ****ing gay move. [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: what makes you so sure? Rumours? ... says: what makes me sure of what? [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: thats its harmful and cant ruin your life ... says: also, its not just for inspiration i just want to feel an out of body experience [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: go killyour self [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: O_O ... says: because i know its not addictive, it cant harm your body only if you take wayyyyy lots which is physically impossible [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: dude... where did you get this idea? ... says: ive watched videos, various websites, talked to people about it ... says: thats how i know [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: wow..............gay. ... says: whatever lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: dude ill be your frend no mtter what but this is plain ******. **** all to it powerfulness ... says: how is it ******? ... says: in what way lol [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: ...stupid question ... says: thats what growing ups about, learning things, trying new things [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: dude.... your getting the total worng idea out of tha philosophy. Go bungee jumping ffs. ... says: why go bungee jumping when i can save lots of money and do it in the comfort of a safe environment ... says: lol ... says: im just curious as all, i want to see what its like [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: i hoped you g spked and raped by the dealer lmfao [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: D: ... says: XD [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: i would ****ING LOL if that happned i swear to god [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: [:|] ... says: yeah but im not gonna take em straight away [:|] [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: not the point >_> ... says: and im gonna get a trip sitter ... says: so nur [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: well congratulations [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: im just worried that your curiosity leads to bigger things [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: this is how it starts man ... says: trust me on this, i know what im doing i wouldnt go anywhere near anything other than lsd or weed [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: thats what they all say ... says: i know what the harder drugs do to people and im not that dumb. [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: dude your sounding so typical and predictale right now [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: dont we all ... says: you may think that but i know what im doing [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: once again, notthe point... knowing isnt the same is beleiving ... says: what? [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: dude your not gonna know **** all once your high ... says: thats why im getting a trip sitter, one of my best friends who i know wouldnt feed me cocaine or some **** rofl [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: id lugh if you raped him ... says: XDXD [c=2] [:[] DeadBeatV.66 [:[] [/c] says: yeah your laughing now just wait O_O [COLOR="RoyalBlue"] I know some of you might agree with him about the power of this drug but he's been my best friend since birth, and i dont want him doing ANY drugs. This is pretty private so dont tick me off for sharing this to the public. I just wanna know what the best course of action is. Should i leave him be?[/COLOR] Oh yeah and sorry about our ramble about what bands do which drugs. Oh and i actually worship hendrix, i was just talking crap because he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]You might want to try completely condensing this conversation to the bare minimum. It's both long and difficult to follow but since you asked. Don't do drugs. That much should be obvious. If your friend is doing something illegal he'll both harm himself and most likely end up caught. So you could do nothing in theory, but what kind of friend would do that?[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Aura Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [CENTER][FONT="Palatino Linotype"]I agree with Raiha. Don't even start with drugs. I know a few druggies, and they're MESSED UP. If whoever this is claims to be your friend, he shouldn't even be trying so hard to get you to do drugs. Just one "no" should be enough and he should've left you alone after that. Also, this is a bit hard to follow for me, so I may have misread it. I apologize if my rambling above has nothing to do with the topic. Again, don't do drugs.[/FONT][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrance Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Well thats my problem >_< i dont know what i should do.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Endrance'][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Well thats my problem >_< i dont know what i should do.[/COLOR][/QUOTE] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]How weak willed can you be? If your 'best friend' wants you to participate in something you know isn't good for you and will most likely end up having serious ramifications he's either already so messed up he's in need of radical therapy or just so stupid he's beyond the powers of human aid. It's difficult to go against someone you've always loved and respected, but if they don't have your best interests in mind when they ask stupid things of you, then why are you so confused?[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrance Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Excuse me but its my fault youve misunderstood my situation due to my awfl copy paste skills. He understands im not interested but its gonna be his first time too and im persuading him not to go ahead with it, although he keeps puting it off saying its harmless ill be fine. Maybe i havecome to the wrong place for help to persuade him?[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiha Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="DarkOrchid"][FONT="Times New Roman"]No, but you didn't make it very clear and expecting us to divine the entire story from one copied aim conversation is relatively unhelpful. If he's so distressingly foolish as to want to actually try drugs, you might as well let him. If you can't point out all the things that could go wrong: altered mental state, sudden anaphylatic reactionary shock, coma. And if he doesn't figure that you might be onto something there, then don't waste your time. What help could you possibly need?[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [SIZE=1]I hold my hands up and say every other weekend I would shove some kind of drug down my throat, whether it be alcohol or something else. Due to circumstances I don't even want to talk about, I don't do it anymore. The thing is, you can't [i]do[/i] much. You can talk him as much as you like but the decision is his. I know loads of people who take drugs and are perfectly fine people - then again, I know people who are so obsessed with their drugs that they don't see anything in front of their eyes. Some people do know how to control it and it [i]can[/i] be harmless fun, but the majority will lose themselves. Try and talk him out of it, but if he does decide to, just watch his back. Maybe he'll stop - I know I did, 'cause it does get really boring after awhile. Just watch out for the really, really addictive stuff - speed, cocaine, meth, heroin... of course all drugs are 'bad' but you're more likely to get hooked on some than others. I don't know what else I can offer you. [B]EDIT:[/b] After reading it over, remind him about all the silly little crack heads who made music on drugs. Sid Vicious. Nikki Sixx. West Arkeen. GG Allin. Wes Berggren. David Bidwell. Mike Bloomfield. Herman Brood. Sonny Clark. Brian Cole. Cowboy. Darby Crash. John Enwhistle. Rudy Lewis. Bradley Nowell. And many many more, you know.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrance Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"] Vicky: Thanks for that it makes me feel better hearing that from a first hand experience, also because ive decided to leave him be as he already seems not see anything infront of him.. especially what im saying. I suppose but that was the answer to the question im looking for 'leave him be or try and play the good guy'. I just needed help in deciding wether it was a foolish idea to just let him slip away down the road to a retarded * yes retarded* way of life. Its honesty sad that hes saving up all of his money to try this a isnt even taking anything im saying into consideration. Quite pathetic, yet sad.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allamorph Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [FONT=Arial]I know a guy who quit drugs cold turkey after trying acid once. He said it completely freaked him out to the point of nervous fits. He said, and I quote, "...the trees, the f***ing [I]trees[/I] were melting. That's not right, dude." And yeah, that IM transcript was a bit of a wade. But I knew the gist of it after I read eight lines. He took his stance and rationalized it to you, and when you didn't take he tried browbeating. Common tactics. Don't buy into them.[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrance Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Yeah and you know what the crazy thing is? Thats exactly what hes looking for, hes a musician like me and he actually told me word for word that by doing this he thinks he wll achieve some kind of gateway to rockstar lifestyle. Childish, wannabe... starting to get sick of him. I think im gonna get back to him in a month when i actually see him in person.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Aura Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Endrance'][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Well thats my problem >_< i dont know what i should do.[/COLOR][/QUOTE] [CENTER][FONT="Palatino Linotype"]Sorry. >< I'm not much of a help. I'm horrible at giving out advice.[/FONT][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chibi-master Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Tell me, has your friend ever seen any of the many anti-drug well, anything (we have a lot of anti-drug stuff.)?! I mean, the dangers of drugs are practically put on a list and shoved in every person's face on a f***ing silver platter despite the age of the person!!! Maybe you should write down, print out, etc. some facts about the drug your friend wants to take to show him that it most certainly is NOT harmless! Because if anything makes trees melt, it's just screwed up, man. Screwed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='chibi-master']Tell me, has your friend ever seen any of the many anti-drug well, anything (we have a lot of anti-drug stuff.)?! I mean, the dangers of drugs are practically put on a list and shoved in every person's face on a f***ing silver platter despite the age of the person!!! Maybe you should write down, print out, etc. some facts about the drug your friend wants to take to show him that it most certainly is NOT harmless! Because if anything makes trees melt, it's just screwed up, man. Screwed up.[/QUOTE] [SIZE=1]Compared to most drugs, LSD is harmless. You don't get addicted to acid like most other drugs, it's nontoxic and the only real scare is having a bad trip. The 'bad' points of LSD are secondary; they lead onto taking harder drugs and whatnot. Also, it does impair your judgment, but really, compared to everything else LSD is one of the little demons out there. Not glorifying it, though.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chibi-master Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Umm...sorry, Vicky, but it doesn't sound very harmless to me. Even if it's being compared to other drugs.:animeswea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allamorph Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Endrance][COLOR="RoyalBlue"']Yeah and you know what the crazy thing is? Thats exactly what hes looking for, hes a musician like me and he actually told me word for word that by doing this he thinks he wll achieve some kind of gateway to rockstar lifestyle.[/COLOR][/quote] [FONT=Arial]There was a young sax player back when Bebop had just hit the scenes who wanted to be just like Charlie Parker. Parker was an opium addict and played phenomenally, so the kid thought there was a connection. When Parker found out the kid had started in on opium as well, he grabbed him by the collar and told him never to do it again. He said he didn't want the kid to become trapped like he had become. Drugs provide a momentary suspension of reality without effort. They do nothing to further your musical ability. You might [I]think[/I] you're better....[/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='Vicky'][SIZE=1]The 'bad' points of LSD are secondary; they lead onto taking harder drugs and whatnot. Also, it does impair your judgment, but really, compared to everything else LSD is one of the little demons out there. [/SIZE][/QUOTE] [font=trebuchet ms] An illegal drug is an illegal drug, and we don't even know how old this kid is. Telling Endrance that it's a "little demon" compared to other drugs and putting the word bad in quotation marks isn't really helping the cause here.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKnight Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [color=crimson]Yeah, it's illegal. How odious and terrible! Nixon's War on Drugs has been more successful in brainwashing than any drug ever will be, haha. Anyway, stepping outside the mindset the government sings to you, he is actually saying pretty accurate stuff about LSD. It probably will not turn him into the next Hendrix, but it is a mind**** that mainly impairs your judgment and sends you away from reality with studies showing little permanent health effects. Neither will it necessarily and stereotypically send him sailing down the melodramatic seas of destruction. Eh, maybe tell him to look into salvia. It's a plant that has hallucinogenic traits that is legal in most states so it must be good for you since it's not illegal, haha. Shorter trip time, no side effects beyond leaving reality for a bit. Otherwise, you know how to play the knight in shining armor without anyone telling you how. [img]http://hemptopia.org/images/NORML_probibition_ad.gif[/img][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrance Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Thanks for all the help guys, i feel alot better about my decision now.[/COLOR] :animeswea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLarge Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [SIZE=1]Ignoring the medical and pharmaceutical aspects for a moment, the thing that a lot of people don't realise is that people on acid, for the most part, are really boring. I've spoken to people while they were on the stuff, and it's not trippy and psychedelic like the common stereotype. It makes them stare at totally innocuous things like wallpaper for hours on end, claiming that they can see patterns in it. There's only a small percentage of people who can wail like Hendrix while on acid, and one of them was, funnily enough, Hendrix. And that was only because he was good at guitar before he took the acid. If his excuse is that it was part of the conception of modern music, slap him upside his stupid head. And if he thinks that taking acid is going to be his gateway into the rock'n'roll lifestyle, slap him harder. The majority of music written and performed while the artist was under the influence of anything was crap, it's just the ones that were good, like Hendrix, that stick in people's minds. Think of Amy Winehouse and Pete Doherty - they started on the drugs and booze and now they are the laughing stock of the music industry. There's plenty of great music that was written sober, so try and make him focus on that. [/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 [quote name='DeathKnight'][color=crimson]Yeah, it's illegal. How odious and terrible! Nixon's War on Drugs has been more successful in brainwashing than any drug ever will be, haha. Anyway, stepping outside the mindset the government sings to you, he is actually saying pretty accurate stuff about LSD. It probably will not turn him into the next Hendrix, but it is a mind**** that mainly impairs your judgment and sends you away from reality with studies showing little permanent health effects. Neither will it necessarily and stereotypically send him sailing down the melodramatic seas of destruction. Eh, maybe tell him to look into salvia. It's a plant that has hallucinogenic traits that is legal in most states so it must be good for you since it's not illegal, haha. Shorter trip time, no side effects beyond leaving reality for a bit. [/color][/QUOTE] [font=trebuchet ms] Sorry I don't get this "stop getting your panties in a bunch" attitude towards drugs. I really couldn't care less that LSD doesn't have a lot of permanent health effects, I still wouldn't want my friend to get into it thinking he'd become the next big rock star. Poor me, I've been so [i]brainwashed[/i]. :rolleyes:[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 [COLOR="Red"]It kinda depends....I mean, since you've been friends since birth, i guess you really care about him. DO NOT, and I repeat, DO NOT leave him be. If he becomes addicted to drugs, and a few years later he comes to you asking for money to buy more drugs, you'll feel guilty because you were the one who allowed him to do this. Try your best to keep him off of the drug, and if it ends in a friendship being broken, at least you'll know you tried to help. It's kinda harsh putting it this way, but it's for the best. Good luck![/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKnight Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 [quote name='Lunox'][font=trebuchet ms] Sorry I don't get this "stop getting your panties in a bunch" attitude towards drugs. I really couldn't care less that LSD doesn't have a lot of permanent health effects, I still wouldn't want my friend to get into it thinking he'd become the next big rock star.[/quote][/font] [color=crimson]I don't know you, I don't really claim to know you, but generally most people go through the motions and nod quietly along with whatever the government says regarding drugs. I can and have and will be wrong, but that's the typicality in America. I [u]repeat[/u] that I doubt drugs will ever MAKE you something or necessarily IMPROVE you, even artistically. Addiction aside, obviously, which is a nonfactor for LSD. Neither do I think that that drugs are always sirens to shipwrecked waters, laced with a thousand broken lives all with the potential to be saved if-only-you-hadn't-taken-that-one-hit. The individual and the drug matter very much. This individual seems naive and young. The best way to teach him that Hendrix was not Hendrix from LSD would probably be to let dip his toes in the water and, surprise, not come out a superstar.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstorture Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 [color=darkgreen][font=garamond]Acid aside completely, your friend sounds like a complete idiot. Which is fine, lots of people are, which is why we are friends with them - to help them out. He quite obviously hasn't read into it that much, many readily available non-biased texts offer a library of information on the pharmacokinetics. Harmless isn't the word we use for substances - you may come out the other end right as rain, but just look at what it does, and what it acts upon: do you really want to play around with something you have absolutely no understanding of? And think about it: no one has a clear understanding of our brains, so there are no absolutes, no guarentees. If you are under the age of (off the top of my head) 28 or so, your mind is still developing. Probably not a good idea to mess with it then. If you want to, please get as much information as you can, from legitimate sources. There are heaps out there. Secondly, I was dissapointed with your reaction to what your friend was telling you. I understand you want to disapprove, but you don't need to be rude or mean about it. Saying things like 'go kill yourself' and calling him gay are only going to make him become defensive. In fact, I'd go far as to say that he probably pushed his point harder than he wanted to just because of the way you reacted. Devil's advocate: one person presents a biased point, the other will want to oppose just to balance it out. I know you probably meant well, and I've made this mistake heaps of times before, but if you are worried about your friend the best thing to do would be to show how much the idea of him taking drugs scares you. Might seem a bit weak and girly to you, but it's manipulative - he might sit up and think damn, this is serious enough for you to let down your front and show you're scared. (I pull that card all the time. ;) ) What use are you as a friend unless you are guiding and supportive? The last thing you want to do is alienate him at this point, you don't want him to start hanging out more with those 'friends' he was talking about. Ok, enough with the fluffy talk. Here is some information about the drug scene. People don't make LSD that much anymore, it's a lot cheaper and easier to make synthetic compounds that go under names like 2ce and 2cd and 2c-whatever. They are similar and can be easily mistaken for LSD because of the hallucenations, but they are exTREMEly dangerous and they don't give you the same 'journey' feeling people talk about with LSD. Yes, it is true that some people say LSD can give you a lifechanging experience. (The other way of saying that goes something like 'so and so took it and was never the same again. It's all about context.) So the danger these days is that much of what is being passed about under the name of LSD is actually a synthetic version which frankly, you aren't going to know you're getting. There's no way to tell what it is you are eating unless you cook it yourself, and even THEN you can't be sure unless you're VERY professional about what you are doing. (Another tip: most illicit drug manufacturers AREN'T.) So yeah, sure, what if LSD is harmless? Are you sure that's LSD you've taken? Even some experienced drug users can't tell the difference, and a lot of drug users don't care - they will take 2ce etc as well. Anyway the long and the short of it is if you want to be irresponsible with your body, it is your body, but recognise you're being irresponsible and get as much info as you can. Here's another good tip: tell your parents. It's usually a good idea. And remember that the more your friends like and trust you, the more influence you will have over them. :) [/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"]You've already told them what you think, so at this point there isn't much left to do since you can't make their decision for them. I do not endorse any form of drug use and yet at the same time, like DeathKnight just said, sometimes the best lessons come from finding out it doesn't work firsthand. So you made your point already, hold your ground and wait. Though if you bring it up again, you might want to be a bit less hostile. The more you push and disagree in a negative manner, the less likely they are to ever listen to what you think. [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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