What should I do?

[chibi-master]

[quote name='Lunox'][font=trebuchet ms] Sorry I don't get this "stop getting your panties in a bunch" attitude towards drugs. I really couldn't care less that LSD doesn't have a lot of permanent health effects, I still wouldn't want my friend to get into it thinking he'd become the next big rock star. [/font][/QUOTE]

FINALLY! Someone who gets it! I mean, REALLY PEOPLE, it has to be [I]illegal[/I] for a [I]reason[/I]!!!

[Sara]

[quote name='chibi-master']FINALLY! Someone who gets it! I mean, REALLY PEOPLE, it has to be [I]illegal[/I] for a [I]reason[/I]!!![/QUOTE][font=trebuchet ms]Exactly. I mean, God only knows how many people I could kill on the plane if they let me wear my sandals through the metal detector.[/font]

[chibi-master]

[quote name='Sara'][font=trebuchet ms]Exactly. I mean, God only knows how many people I could kill on the plane if they let me wear my sandals through the metal detector.[/font][/QUOTE]

Okay, as much as I know that was ment to mock me a little (or a lot, it's up to you), that was pretty d*** funny!:animesmil

[DeathKnight]

[quote name='chibi-master']FINALLY! Someone who gets it! I mean, REALLY PEOPLE, it has to be [I]illegal[/I] for a [I]reason[/I]!!![/QUOTE]

[color=crimson]What reason?

Or is that the end of that thought?[/color]

[Sara]

[quote name='chibi-master']Okay, as much as I know that was ment to mock me a little (or a lot, it's up to you), that was pretty d*** funny!:animesmil[/QUOTE][font=trebuchet ms]No, I haven't got anything against you. The argument is a little questionable, though.[/font]

[eleanor]

[font=trebuchet ms] IMO, certain drugs are made illegal by the government because they believe that they present a certain danger to people. Whether or not you agree with this I could care less, as I find the whole legalization of marijuana or whatever debate sort of pointless, and was never meant to be my argument.

What I was trying to get at is that someone young and, presumably foolish, should not get mixed up with illegal drugs. There's the fact that being caught with it could be disastrous, and if someone is dumb enough to think drugs will lead the way to rockstardom, I don't know if he'd be smart enough to keep it out of the eyes of others. Just because a lot of people think it shouldn't be illegal doesn't stop the fact that it is illegal.

The argument that he should be allowed to "test it out" to see that it doesn't lend to increasing musical talent is just not something I agree with. Letting people learn things first hand is great sometimes, but when it comes to kids and drugs, I'd have to say no. Even if he does realize that LSD does not lead to heightened creativity, there's a good chance he'd continue using it just to get that high, and then go into other drugs. He seems naive enough.

Yeah, I know plenty of people who smoke pot and are fine. But in the end I think I'll go with my gut instinct- I wouldn't want a friend to get into drugs. Even legal ones, in a sense. I'd try and stop a friend from smoking, and from becoming a hard drinker. [/font]

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]You could care less, you could. Try harder.

Anyway, only drugs can lessen the pain of you disagreeing with me. Thanks a lot.[/color]

[eleanor]

[font=trebuchet ms] I never understood that. Am I using that phrase correctly, or am I really supposed to say "I couldn't care less?". English confuses me. -_-

But to make this post OT, Endrance, I hope everything works out well. And don't give in peer pressure. Or do drugs. Especially the illegal ones.[/font]

[Vicky]

[quote name='Lunox'][font=trebuchet ms]

But to make this post OT, Endrance, I hope everything works out well. And don't give in peer pressure. Or do drugs. Especially the illegal ones.[/font][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1]Have you ever done [i]legal[/i] highs? They **** you up more than the illegal ones. You go all shakey, paranoid and get really really violent.

Sorry, I'm just being a bit nit picky =p. Nothing personal mate haha.[/SIZE]

[Horendithas]

[COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Vicky'][SIZE=1]Have you ever done [i]legal[/i] highs? They **** you up more than the illegal ones. You go all shakey, paranoid and get really really violent.
[/SIZE][/QUOTE]So says the teenager who, by the way, is [I]not[/I] a doctor.

Don't let the argument of [I]legal drugs are worse[/I] sway you either. The whole point is that unless it's something prescribed to you by a doctor, you shouldn't be doing it period. That and what DeLarge said about people on that drug being boring is true. I've yet to see anyone use it and magically become smarter or better at music or anything else somehow.[/COLOR]

[Vicky]

[quote name='Indi'][COLOR="Indigo"]So says the teenager who, by the way, is [I]not[/I] a doctor.
.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1]You don't have to be a doctor to try legal highs. Nor do you have to be a doctor to be friends with adults who do try them and won't try them again for the same reasons. And, err, why does it actually matter whether I'm a teenager or not? Two [i]adults[/i] have said near enough the same thing I was getting at.[/SIZE]

[Sabrina]

[FONT="Tahoma"]Just about everyone has already made the point of not doing the illegal drugs period, it's just not worth the hassle or the potential trouble should a person get caught.

Oh and Vicky, just what kind of legal drugs are you talking about? Because the only ones I know that cause what you are describing are ones designed to help people who are in drug rehab. So it's a combination of withdrawal from the illegal drugs they were abusing and the legal ones to help them get over the addiction. >_>

Unless you're talking about chemo therapy or other stuff. But still, I know a few people who got messed up and are currently in drug rehab at the moment and your description fits them perfectly. [/FONT]

[Vicky]

[quote name='Sabrina'][FONT="Tahoma"]
Oh and Vicky, just what kind of legal drugs are you talking about? Because the only ones I know that cause what you are describing are ones designed to help people who are in drug rehab. So it's a combination of withdrawal from the illegal drugs they were abusing and the legal ones to help them get over the addiction. >_>

Unless you're talking about chemo therapy or other stuff. But still, I know a few people who got messed up and are currently in drug rehab at the moment and your description fits them perfectly. [/FONT][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1]Oh, no, no, I should have been more specific. I'm talking about speed alternatives, ecstasy alternatives, salvia... ect, ect. They're made [i]legal[/i] and do in fact have the same (if not lesser) effect with worse side effects. The only difference is, you can't (apparently) get addicted.

You can get drugs from rehab that mess you up. Even drugs they prescribe in the hospital can mess you up - I don't recall which, but they actually prescribed a drug used on the street to treat an addiction to [i]another[/i] street drug. I'll have to look it up again.[/SIZE]

[Rachmaninoff]

You can always argue that something else is worse. I think the point was that none of us are doctors so to confidently say legals drugs are worse is inaccurate. Plus that argument isn't a good reason to justify or overlook illegal drug use in the first place.

So in the end, I'd avoid doing it in the first place. Like Allamorph said in regards to music. You might think it makes you better and more creative, but it doesn't. I've seen first hand those stupid college students who get into drugs to "improve their music" and all that happens is it gets worse instead of better. I've seen a number crash and burn their way out of getting their degrees that way too.

Plus plenty of musicians and bands that were actually doing well, tanked their careers by getting into drugs. So don't listen to your friend. I would recommend trying to be a bit more civil in your responses though. That's more likely to have them ignoring your advice than actually listening to it.

[Ravenstorture]

[color=darkgreen][font=garamond]Oh, I just thought of something else that's rather funny - along with all the other effects of LSD, your perception of sound becomes rather distorted, music especially so - to the point of it being indistiguishable as music. Ask anyone, even if you could FIND your guitar - you'd certainly not be able to play it!

(Hendrix was even more amazing than you thought.)

*insensitive remark about the beatles being crap*[/font][/color]

[Sara]

[quote name='Vicky'][SIZE=1]And, err, why does it actually matter whether I'm a teenager or not? [/SIZE][/QUOTE][font=trebuchet ms]It doesn't matter. And since it doesn't matter (but some people are easily swayed into believe it [i]should[/i]), it is a subtle way to discredit your opinion.[/font]

[Horendithas]

[COLOR="Indigo"][quote name='Sara'][font=trebuchet ms]It doesn't matter. And since it doesn't matter (but some people are easily swayed into believe it [i]should[/i]), it is a subtle way to discredit your opinion.[/font][/QUOTE]You're right, it doesn't and was a poor choice of wording on my part. I was trying to say that she couldn't possibly know that legals drugs are worse with any degree of certainty. That's something that is true for all of us here. Even the debate about illegal drugs to a certain extent is based on information given to us by someone else. [/COLOR]