Asexual Reproduction?

[DeathKnight]

[quote name='Lunar'][COLOR="Indigo"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]if God intended for sperms to be made out of female bone marrow, he would have done it already. [/FONT][/COLOR].[/QUOTE]

[color=crimson]Perhaps if God intended for sperm to be made out of female bone marrow he would have given us the intelligence and creativity to do so eventually as has apparently happened.

Scenarios involving invisible, mute, and formless beings can go in any direction so I wouldn't advise submitting them as logic.[/color]

[James]

[font=franklin gothic medium]Well, we probably wouldn't want asexual reproduction to become too widespread.

The reason human beings reproduce sexually is to ensure genetic diversity within our species (this is why a lot of species on Earth reproduce this way).

If a gay male couple is going to have kids via a surrogate mother, then they'd probably be better off donating sperm anyway.

As far as lesbians go, I guess the female who [i]isn't[/i] giving birth would donate the "sperm".

Also I'm not sure if this qualifies as truly asexual reproduction. If one partner produces sperm to fertilize the egg of another partner (no matter how it's done), then I'd still call it sexual reproduction by default.

Asexual reproduction is where only one parent is required (i.e. the parent can impregnate themselves and/or divide into a duplicate). So perhaps if a woman implanted herself with her own sperm this would be considered asexual...but doing that would probably be a lot more dangerous than accepting the "sperm" from another woman with different genes.[/font]

[Lunar]

[quote name='Rachmaninoff']It's called science, and we're still learning. Just because we don't understand something fully, it doesn't mean there has to be someone who created it. Falling back on saying "God" created it is a cop out in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Indigo"]I never said just because we fully don't understand something, there has to be [COLOR="Indigo"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]someone who created it. What I'm saying is nature [I]proves[/I] that someone created it. Complex things, like the human body, for example. Our weather system, why we are born as babies and aren't born as adults. Sure we are still learning, but we need to be careful not to mess up the natural order of things because of the pursuit of knowledge.[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]

[Haku877]

[quote name='Darren']But hey, it helps gays and lesbians, because now they can have children with their partners without having to seek out someone from the opposite sex to be the biological parent. (of course, men would still need a surrogate mother).[/QUOTE]

Actually I read part of it, it says they can turn male bone marrow into an egg.

[SunfallE]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"][quote name='Lunar'][COLOR="Indigo"]What I'm saying is nature [I]proves[/I] that someone created it. Complex things, like the human body, for example. Our weather system, why we are born as babies and aren't born as adults. Sure we are still learning, but we need to be careful not to mess up the natural order of things because of the pursuit of knowledge.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]Nature doesn't prove anything other than we still have a lot to learn. I'm not seeing the assumption that it proves the existence of any thing, let alone God. Humans tend to create things using the materials around them so on the same line of reasoning, many of them assume that nothing can exist without having been created. I see that reasoning as being ultimately flawed.

If you're worried that we are messing up the natural order of things, that's been going on for thousands of years. We already extensively mess up what might be considered the natural order of things. So I don't see this as being any worse than what we already do. In the end I imagine you and I will not agree on this. ^_~

Anyway, as for the actual topic. If this technology ever gets off the ground, so long as the child in question is healthy, I have no issues with it. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[Aaryanna_Mom]

[quote name='The13thMan'][FONT="Trebuchet MS"]I just like to give ya'll crap. Feel free to throw some back at me time and time again. [/FONT][/QUOTE]And you wonder why many of us don't take you seriously at all. :rolleyes:

Anyway, in general I don't object to the idea. I've always been one to believe that using our intelligence to figure things out is part of the learning process of being on Earth in the first place. What we do with said knowledge is another story. I may from a religious standpoint not agree with the obvious uses for gay and lesbian couples, but at the same time, I also advocate free choice. So having said that, I'm fine with this.

[Darren]

[quote name='Haku877']Actually I read part of it, it says they can turn male bone marrow into an egg.[/QUOTE]
Yes. A surrogate mother is someone who holds an embryo that she has know biological connection to. This has been one of many methods used to combat infertility. And seeing as a man can't carry a child in him for 9 months, after the egg is fertilized, they would need to put it into a woman.
[quote name='Lunar'][COLOR="Indigo"][I]If[/I] there is a God. Explain all the wonders of nature.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Impossible. Not even you could explain them without falling back on the faith excuse... Not to mention that it was millions of years ago so I have absolutely no idea...

However, I could give you a very lengthy argument (backed up both historically and scientifically) on why I believe a higher power doesn't exist, but that would be getting off topic and I don't want to do that. PM if you want to continue this debate.