Darth Vectis Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 [SIZE="1"]Hi everyone, well some people might know, if any, there is this new show on tv called the Legend of the Seeker. What many wouldn't know is that this is based off a book series called the Sword of Truth series. I am an avid fan of this series, I can pretty much tell you everything that happens in all 10 books (except debt of bones, haven't read that one yet) and I am extremely disappointing in this show. I can understand that if someone approached the author of these books (Terry Goodkind) and asked him if they could make this series. But, in truth, it was the author himself who did say it was ok and was there to help produce the show. So, I am very upset that the tv show has turned out to be almost nothing like the books, the very basic story line is the same, but the parts of the story that actually mattered to the plot have been completely removed and replaced with some other dribble that completely changes the purpose of things. All in all, it is not up to par by any accounts and only one character in that show is even close to the origins personality. The rest are far off in their personality traits that it makes it impossible to watch longer then 5 minutes. I will admit I do have preconceived notions of what characters should look like and how they should act. But, when you mess with the story line along with characters, you go to far my friend. Well, there was my rant about how much I disapprove of that tv show. So, I welcome the words of people who have heard of either that tv show or have read the books. I even welcome the conversation from people who have heard of neither and just want to get their 2 cents in. I bid you all, good day![/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunfallE Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 [COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"]I heard from someone that the series was, to be blunt, a joke. A total mutilation of the actual story, characters and book in general. Since I watched the show out of curiosity and cause it didn't seem all that great, I got the first book and read it. My verdict, I agree. It was utterly trashed and turned into a [I]dramariffic soap opera[/I]. The book was fantastic and the show was anything [I]but[/I] that. :/ Now that I've read the first book and enjoyed it. I've started on the second one and I don't plan on returning to the TV series. The things I liked about the book were gone so I don't see a point. [I]*waits for [COLOR="Indigo"]Indi[/COLOR] to rant next*[/I] You know you will. =P[/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horendithas Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 [COLOR="Indigo"][FONT="Arial"][quote name='SunfallE][COLOR="RoyalBlue"][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"][I]*waits for [COLOR="Indigo"]Indi[/COLOR] to rant next*[/I] You know you will. =P[/FONT'][/COLOR][/quote]It's their fault for taking a perfectly good book and turning it into crap. Anyway, I watched it and my thoughts here: [URL="http://www.theotaku.com/worlds/indi/view/50736/someone_needs_to_die/"][U]Someone Needs To Die[/U][/URL] sums up what I think of that [I]joke[/I] of a mini series based off the book. I'm in the middle of reading Soul of the Fire and after watching the start of that pathetic TV version, I dropped it in favor of reading the books which so far, have yet to disappoint me in that manner. The books have had a few moments but not enough to turn me off from the series. I watched the TV premiere and then the next week to give it a chance. There's no way in hell they can salvage it, they pretty much shot themselves in the foot from the get go, they [I]can't[/I] get back to what made it so good in the first place. They can't even end it properly without pulling some lame stunt out of their *** It's obvious that they took the name and popularity of the series so they could scream 'best seller' and drag in mindless fans who don't care if they are getting trash or not. But I imagine that most people who read the books are pretty disgusted like I am. Anyway, I already did my rant when I first saw it, and I've washed my hands of that pathetic joke they're now airing each week. [/FONT][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehex Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I was a fan of the first novel, Wizard's First Rule. It was a great book. It was my first BIG book as well. And you know what? I was [I]really[/I] excited for this. But, in the end, I couldn't get past the first twenty minutes. Yeah, it was bad. Here's to hoping HBO's A Game of Thrones is better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 [FONT="Arial"]Disappointment doesn't even cover what they did with this. It was a non-stop [I]WTF are they doing[/I] the entire time. I was expecting somethings to be different but this just took the cake. Other than the absolute bare bones of the storyline it was completely altered and not in a good way. It's not even the same story anymore, at all. One of my friends, who is watching the disaster just so he can rip it apart, has told me a bit about the following episodes. Not only are they pulling aspects out of the other books too, but they're being twisted in the same manner as those in the first book. I wouldn't have minded some minor alterations, but ones that made it look like a cheesy, melodramatic fantasy show are unforgivable. I think the only way one could like this is if they [I]haven't[/I] read the books. And even then, it's poorly done. Anyway, I don't plan on watching anymore of it. It was just too pathetic really. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmaninoff Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 [QUOTE=Matt]And you know what? I was [I]really[/I] excited for this. But, in the end, I couldn't get past the first twenty minutes. Yeah, it was bad.[/QUOTE]I managed to finish the premiere as it were. Bad doesn't even begin to cover it. It was absoutely awful. I haven't watched the weekly episode each Saturday since once was more than enough to gag on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeChaser Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I haven't seen any of the episodes yet, and I don't even think it's being carried on any channels in our area, because a scan of this weekend's TV guide drew a blank. I could download them, but I'm not even sure I would bother with it if it's as bad as everyone says it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 [FONT="Arial"][QUOTE=TimeChaser]I haven't seen any of the episodes yet, and I don't even think it's being carried on any channels in our area, because a scan of this weekend's TV guide drew a blank. I could download them, but I'm not even sure I would bother with it if it's as bad as everyone says it is.[/QUOTE]You're not missing anything trust me. This could take a while but, to give you a general idea, and I?m assuming that you?ve read the book? It was obvious from the beginning that it wasn?t going to be the same at all. First glaring contradiction, one of the [spoiler]four members of the quad escapes instead of dying[/spoiler] They of course then go and talk to Richard?s brother on account of his position and conveniently the survivor has [spoiler]Richard?s bone necklace since he grabed it when shoved over the edge during the fight.[/spoiler] Oh and let?s not forget that Richard didn?t run into those trees with the thorns since lo and behold [spoiler]his father isn?t dead and Richard is living with him, so he is bitten by a vine that acts like a snake and injects something into his palm (at the end of the fight with the quad) instead of the thorn on the back of his palm that he had encountered before he even saw Kahlan.[/spoiler] Then this [spoiler]quad member convinces the council that Richard is being put under a spell by a witch (Kahlan) and they go looking for her by heading to Richard?s father who is alive.[/spoiler] Kahlan then uses the wisp in order [spoiler]find the great wizard Zed. Richard doesn?t go with her since he thinks Zed is some crazy old man instead of a friend. Richard goes to see his father and only leaves when the others show up looking for him. Richard then shows up later at Zed's place and he uses magic to save the day and remove the venom from his hand where the snake vine bit him. [/spoiler] I think you can see where I?m going with this, one melodramatic deal after another. Kahlan demands that he tell her where the seeker is so she can and I kid you not [spoiler]give him the book of counted shadows which Richard can read by simply looking at it since he?s the ?true seeker?. I'm sure I don't need to remind you that the book was destroyed long before Kahlan showed up. [/spoiler] Now Richard in this TV joke show is a complete idiot and refuses to believe what he?s been told [spoiler]that he?s the seeker, so he leaves and arrives at his father?s house just in time to hear his dying words that he?s not his true son. Naturally he has the book since that makes it easier for them to pull a stupid stunt in the show. He then battles with the quad member who killed his father and the ?book? conveniently falls into the quad member?s hands (stupid stunt I was alluding to a moment ago).[/spoiler] Apparently that?s their true goal, to find Kahlan and get that from her before she can give it to a seeker. A little while later the others find Richard and of course go after the [spoiler]quad member who got the book. They are accosted by the villagers and the wisp (who is still alive) blocks an arrow in order to save the ?one true seeker?[/spoiler] They even spend a moment where Kahlan has a little memorial since the [spoiler]wisp gave up her life for the seeker.[/spoiler] What?s really sad is that I?m only giving you the highlights here, watching that premiere was just painful since it was so utterly stupid the way they handled it. They even had a so called magic ceremony to name the seeker with showy graphics and lightening coming out of the sky. At one point [spoiler]Zed saves Kahlan and Richard from a Gar using wizards fire.[/spoiler] Seriously... wtf? Now I?m sure you remember the barrier between the two lands right? Apparently in this it?s not quite the same thing at all. The [spoiler]quad member kidnaps the border guardian Chase?s daughter and uses her as a hostage to get information on how he can get around the barrier. He takes her to that bone woman who gives him the nightstone. Richard and the others go there seeking Chase's help only to find out what happened. Oh and let's not forget that Richard manages to save the day and kill a Gar while saving Chase?s daughter a little later on.[/spoiler] Never mind the fact that most of what I?ve listed so far never happened in the book, by now I'm sure you've seen that other than names and hints at events in the book, they're just making it up however they see fit. Switch back to Lord Rahl, who was cast as a brunette instead of blonde? just a tiny thing but kind of messes him up really. He orders [spoiler]his wizards to attack the barrier, using catapults to hurl fire to take it down.[/spoiler] Now considering what the border really is? that was just pure BS. For one thing [spoiler]it takes several days to cross and it's the underworld not some magical barrier that can be brought down.[/spoiler] And the way the wrapped it up? where Richard and Kahlan manage to catch up with the one who [spoiler]stole the book of counted shadows. It was at the border, just as the attacks brought a part down, allowing a group of soldiers to come through where they were located.[/spoiler] Oh how terribly convenient. And Richard somehow manages to tap into [spoiler]the dance of death which he won?t even learn about until in the second book, in order to stop the small force that comes through. Oh and naturally he burns the book in a dramatic gesture to keep it from falling into enemy hands.[/spoiler] [I]*rolls eyes*[/I] So having read that? I think you can see why people are so disgusted by what they did. They literally turned it into a melodramatic soap opera. They altered the characters personalities in a manner that turned them into someone else. Richard was never that stupid in the first book and a lot of what I mentioned of course didn?t happen either. For all intents, it's not even the same story anymore. It's a watered down altered [I]waste[/I] of a show. I really hope the author gave away too much creative license instead of actually agreeing to that drivel they're airing. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeChaser Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 OK, yeah that does sound pretty crappy. :animesigh I mean, I knew that Richard's father [spoiler]was already dead at the start of the book, and hadn't he had Richard memorize the entire Book of Counted Shadows when he was a boy?[/spoiler] I certainly won't go out of my way to watch this now (not that I really was to start with). I've read to around the middle of [I]Temple of the Winds[/I], but that was 3-4 years ago by now. I need to pick it up again one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 [FONT="Arial"][quote name='TimeChaser]I mean, I knew that Richard's father [spoiler']was already dead at the start of the book, and hadn't he had Richard memorize the entire Book of Counted Shadows when he was a boy?[/spoiler][/quote]He did. So the entire back history of how that happened and why is pretty much gone. Like a great many other things since some of my friends are still watching it just so they can pick it apart. Last weeks episode was pretty pathetic as well. But I'm done spelling out why this adaptation is horrible. [/FONT] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmaninoff Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I just found out from one of my friends what they did in last weeks episode... Apparently [spoiler]when Kahlan's mother died, her hold on their father was gone and he used her and her younger sisters powers to cheat others.[/spoiler] Seriously... what the hell? And that's not all... [spoiler]She was later saved and raised by the sisters of the light until the Confessors found her and her sister.... [I]headdesk[/I].[/spoiler] That so did NOT happen at all. It's a just a freakin train wreck though most of you know this already. But still, a [spoiler]Confessor's power changes a person for good. They don't just revert to normal when the Confessor dies.[/spoiler] Hearing that makes me glad I gave up on it as well. That was just stupider than hell. And that doesn't even include the bit on how Lord Rahl was apparently [spoiler]after some kid who could read your thoughts by looking into your eyes. If said boy had even been in the book... Rahl would have never paid for such an apparently gifted kid, he would have simply taken him.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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