Wolfen91 Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 [QUOTE=dark kitsune]I'm wondering if any of you watch it. I just finished watching episode 7 and damned if it didn't make me cry.... So anybody into this particular anime as much as me? From what I've seen so far this anime is incredible. The character development, plot and artwork are great. If you haven't seen it yet...then get busy![/QUOTE] I watch Fullmetal Alchemist every saturday night! (it's on at 11:30 on cartoon Network) From what i have seen i love it, as most anime i watch! Oh and witch one was #7? was it with the Chimera? ( how eva ya spell that) all in all it's a great show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010DigitalBoy Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Last nights episode had what I would consider to be one of the coolest battle scenes I've ever seen in anime. I must say, watching FullMetal is sometimes like playing a survival horror game. I am simply shocked at what the botcher was telling Al. I wonder what it is that Ed did to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmystic_silverx Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 [quote name='Lunox][color=darkslateblue'] That's called bootlegging...or at least it's a form of bootlegging. FMA has been liscenced now, so I don't think you'll find any more fansubs of it easily. Funimation is doing a good job of editing it as far as I have seen, so I'm planning to buy the DVDs as well.[/color][/quote] I see. I'm going to look for some anyway because I'm already buying DVDs from FUNimation, and once that series is over, there is going to be no more waiting-every-month-to-buy-a-DVD situation. =_= I'm already broke the way it is. [QUOTE=Lunox][color=darkslateblue] [spoiler] Thank you for your reassurances. :3 Yet I also have a feeling that Hoenheim will die in the movie. Dunno. I am a dork. :D[/spoiler][/color][/QUOTE] 0_o That would be sad... I don't want him to die. I guess we'll just have to see it ~_~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowChemical Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Full Metal a total obssesion from my younger sis lol Most anime I have seen there is a movie after the series and FMA is the same Just like DBZ and Neon Genesis the movie kind of tells what happens after the all the things in the series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 [quote name='ThatOneOddDude']Last nights episode had what I would consider to be one of the coolest battle scenes I've ever seen in anime. I must say, watching FullMetal is sometimes like playing a survival horror game. I am simply shocked at what the botcher was telling Al. I wonder what it is that Ed did to him...[/quote] Argh! They're still stringing us along! :animeangr More seriously, I agree with all of your comments. That episode (which I taped on Saturday and just finished watching today) absolutely flew by. I couldn't believe it made what was essentially one fight last for a full half hour and still seem fast-paced. My favorite part of the episode was when [spoiler]Ed deliberately imitated Scar--it was so cool and so creepy.[/spoiler] Additionally, Al has proven himself to be a total bad*** (I almost died laughing during his scenes with [spoiler]Barry--who, by the way, has now become one of my favorite tertiary characters in the show; he's hilarious!). Of course, their conversation at the end was definitely not funny.[/spoiler] I just hope that next week's episode won't leave us hanging... ~Dagger~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamuro Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 *agrees with dagger* 30 minutes just isn't enough is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmystic_silverx Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 [quote name='x kakashi x']*agrees with dagger* 30 minutes just isn't enough is it?[/quote] To me, it feels like they're extremely short. I start watching them and before I know its over. =_= [QUOTE=Dagger] [spoiler]Barry--who, by the way, has now become one of my favorite tertiary characters in the show; he's hilarious!). Of course, their conversation at the end was definitely not funny.[/spoiler] I just hope that next week's episode won't leave us hanging... ~Dagger~[/QUOTE] I had the impression like "And this is the guy that chopped people up?" I was laughing through their whole conversation, except, the last part of their conversation. If there is another cliffhanger, I will probably commit suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 [i]Last nights episode had what I would consider to be one of the coolest battle scenes I've ever seen in anime.[/i] [color=darkslateblue] It's really a shame that CN isn't playing all the openings/endings. The best fight scenes from FMA come from the openings/endings...the first time I saw one of them I had to go back and watch it again...and again...and maybe several more times after that. >_>;; I'm glad that the DVDs are showing them, though.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lady Eowen Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 yea, CN is really bad about that. I think most people wish they would play the actual openings and endings. they are always so good. Next week's episode is most likely going to leave us hanging. FMA has a habit of doing that. not fun. That whole discusions between Al and Barry last week about how he was a real person, not an alchemically modified being brought me to tears! :animecry: the way he was yelling "I'm a real person!" was so heartbreaking!! :( :animecry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 [color=darkslateblue] This part of the post is mainly for Azure: Nothing big, but I was watching the FMA Reflections Special (just thing one-hour thing wrapping up all the episodes and 'reflecting' on the big events) and the never-shown dialogue between [spoiler] Envy and Greed was played during the fight Ed and Greed had at Dante's house. Which sort of makes it...more official...dunno. *shrug*[/spoiler]. I was bored today after school, so I decided to write a review of FMA. :3 Tells you how bored I was and how much I like this series. Note: People who haven?t finished the series [i]can[/i] read this. Just MAKE SURE not to read the spoilers. And if you do, they?re nothing major. Well, the last one is major. So don?t read it if you don?t want to have anything spoiled. [b]Art[/b] ?A breath of fresh air, really. Ed?s character design is possibly genius, I love it [i]so[/i] much. He?s the best short, braid-wearing kid that came along since Duo? I?ve never seen such physical characteristics pulled off that well. As for the rest of the character, I can easily point out some repetitions. Hawkeye?s hair, Winry?s hair, and Al?s human-form hair all have that same ?point-out? bang, and Sergeant Broche?s frontal hair is basically the same as Ed?s (which in the end tarnished my wonderful view of Ed?s character design). But another thing I like about the art is that is retains its cartoonish feelings while still allowing the art to be appropriate for more serious scenes. As common in most anime, the beginning episodes have worse art than later on in the series. Overall, though, the art is nice. The animation quality is good as well. The fight scenes in the FMA scenes are among the best I?ve seen, the fight scenes shown in the opening/endings probably being the best. [b]Music[/b]- Typical anime background music (although the orchestral score can really add to the scenes in some episodes, i.e. episode 25), but it is still above average. Nothing that great about the background music, though. Of course, the opening/ending themes are a different story. All of the songs are at least enjoyable to most people. ?Ready Steady Go? by L?Arc~en~ciel, ?Rewrite? by Asian Kung-Foo Generation, ?Kesenai Tsumi? by Nana Kitade, ?Motherland? by Crystal Kay, ?I Will? by Soweru, ?Tobira no Mukou He? by YeLLOW Generation, ?UNDO? by Cool Joke, and ?Melissa? by Porno Graffitti are all songs that many different people can enjoy (the order you see is the ones I like best at beginning and so on). I liked ?Ready Steady Go? and ?Rewrite? enough to download them?and that?s an accomplishment. On the contrary, many of them are also forgettable. [b]Originality[/b]- If someone came up to me right now and asked me, ?Out of all the anime storylines/backgrounds you?ve heard/seen, which one is the most original??, FMA would definitely be up there. [i]Way[/i] up there. The storyline/background of FMA really just fascinates me. What I like best about it is that it has made the subject matter really come into its own. Personally, I cannot see anyone else creating another anime about alchemy. It could happen, of course. But not without tons of fans flaming it for copying FMA, even though that?s a dumb thing to do. [b]Storyline/Themes[/b]-I?ll spare the summary of the main storyline, if you really want one, go look it up on Google. As I obsessed before, the storyline of FMA is amazing. But?there is one thing that annoys me. :( [spoiler] I thought Homunculi needed ?souls? to do alchemy. Wrath could do alchemy?I was not aware that one leg and arm of a human gave Homunculi souls. O_o And the subplot with Frank Archer just annoyed me.[/spoiler] Other than that, I have no problems. The filler episodes are not tedious or boring, they fly by and it?s an appropriate amount. In fact, there really aren?t any filler episodes. In the end, you realize that all of the episodes are somehow connected and contribute something to the overall series. It all comes down to FMA?s epic. And the nature of FMA is just [i]dark[/i]. I don?t care what anyone else says, this is not one of your ?happy ending with lots of good advice meant for main-stream audiences? type of anime. Well, yes, it is main-stream, but the dark atmosphere that FMA carries throughout the series is fulfilled richly in the latter half. I swear, when I was nearing the final episodes, I was clawing my screen for at least one happy moment that lasted more than .04029 seconds. Other than that, many of the ?bad? things people bring up against the FMA storyline could easily be defended and/or argued. And then the themes. WOAH! Hold on a second! Good philosophy? Good Action? Good everything? In One Anime? *gasp* This=FMA. The themes in FMA run from brother love and friendship to revenge and evilness. FMA managed to pack in almost everything in a very fluid way and it in no way damaged the quality of the series. Action, drama, suspense, love, angst, philosophy, friendship, horror, humor, and everything else. Except for parody. But who need that stuff, eh? :3 [b]Characters[/b]- What can I say? I like all of the main characters in this series. Ed has become one of my favorite anime characters of all time. So have Hughes and Hoenheim. The relationship portrayed between Ed and Al is actually very, very touching at times, which really kills my heart*, because brotherly love is just one of those things that make me melt. The only problem I could point out is that Winry is actually a very bland and boring character. [b]Overall[/b]-Perfect? No. It?s pretty damn close. If I could wrap FMA into one word, I would call it brilliant. Pros: Excellent storyline, superb originality, brilliant portraying of so many philosophical themes and categories (action, philosophy, angst, etc. etc.), nice art and animation, likeable characters you can root for, and overall coolness. Cons: That one thing I mentioned about [spoiler]Wrath[/spoiler]. And um? ? Now that I look back on it, the latter half of the anime owns the first half so much that the first half looks bad compared to it. :D *dorky moment* *Which really, really, really, really killed me at the end of the series. [spoiler] I found it tragic that Ed had to give up the thing he valued most throughout the whole series: his relationship with Al. I got so teary during the final episodes. ;_; [/spoiler] And with said and done?I guess all of this was just another one of my rantings about how much I love FMA. And I look forward to everyone seeing the next two weeks' FMA shows, as they are pretty cool episodes. 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Dagger Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 On a related note, the second FMA DVD is supposed to come out pretty soon; I just received my copy from good old TRSI. The production booklet contains profiles of Hughes and Mustang, a brief note from the producer (Masahiko Minami), black-and-white lineart, background reference pictures, small character sketches (including Scar, Nina, Winry, Barry and a couple of random bystanders), screenshots, episode summaries and some really gorgeous artwork. People who are all caught up with the current episodes on Adult Swim don't need to worry about spoilers in the booklet, by the way. The DVD's cover art features Al. Anyway, I'm off to wallow in the glory of Barry the Chopper. [spoiler]Although after last Saturday's episode, it'll be kind of weird hearing his voice coming from a human body.[/spoiler] ~Dagger~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rikku2735 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Dang. I missed last weeks episode! I wanted to watch it but my sister was playing a game so I wasn't able to watch it. I promised myself I would watch it yesterday but I fell asleep right before it came on! And I missed it again. I was so mad at myself. I always miss the good episodes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 [COLOR=blue]*checks the script again* Interesting, Lunox, interesting. Indeed, there seems to be an extra space before the last piece of chat. It makes sense if [SPOILER]Envy's last statement was a soliliquy, and the dialogue between Envy and Greed was at a different and earlier time[/SPOILER]. That puts everything into perspective. I never doubted that the script was important, I just didn't understand how it fit into the events in the anime is all. Haha, I wrote a ton of stuff for FMA. I just couldn't resist! There's just so much to say about the series that I didn't want to forget what I cherished the most about it, and so went into great detail about each thing. Then school started... -_- The first thing I did after watching FMA was write a review for it, and it was remarkably similar to yours (only clunkier and didn't flow as well)! That's quite something, haha. I submitted it to theOtaku and it got accepted, so you can check it out over there if you want. Like you said, FMA almost reaches perfection, but doesn't quite get there, so I gave it a 9.5 instead of a 10 - only because there are some arguments about the ending (which I personally loved). ^^; I never bothered to submit anything else because I know I'm forgetting something that I'll regret not putting in. Speaking of which, I liked your review! Funny enough, you did the same thing that I later regret after submitting the thing: I didn't speak of the action sequences at all, even though they are definately one of the highlights. Most technical points go the fight scenes because of how they incorporate Alchemy into the mix. I'd elaborate more, but you get the idea. We're two eggs of the same chicken, Lunox - or however that saying goes. O_o[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 [color=darkslateblue] :3 I didn't want to say it was perfect either, because of the ending (even though I loved it as well). I read your review on theOtaku.com, and I liked it. I agreed especially about your review of the artwork and animation quality. Another thing I liked about the artwork was that all the eyes/faces weren't same (Ed's eyes were different from Al's human-form eyes, Roy's eyes/face structure VS. Havoc's eye/face structure, Winry/Hawkeye, blah blah blah). :D Hooray for the FMA artists. And you added in something I forgot to talk about (>_>): the religious part!!!11!one For some reason, FMA just made its religious overlaps and themes so natural that I enjoyed it a lot. Ishbar people rock. More on the fight scenes...do you know any other anime that has similar fight scenes such as FMA? The moment I saw them, I wondered why other people haven't already thought of them. Whenever I'm drawing/making up animated scenes, the kind of fight scenes I make up are similar to FMA: fast, fluid, and sometimes with pretty cool angles. The first time I saw the fight scenes in the last opening, I had to watch it several times. And at that time, I haven't even seen all the fight scenes in the anime, since I was skipping what I thought I could so I could find out what happened (I went back and watched it fully later...pure heaven). P.S. Two peas in a pod? I never really understood when to use that saying... >_>;;[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 [quote name='Lunox][color=darkslateblue']More on the fight scenes...do you know any other anime that has similar fight scenes such as FMA? The moment I saw them, I wondered why other people haven't already thought of them. Whenever I'm drawing/making up animated scenes, the kind of fight scenes I make up are similar to FMA: fast, fluid, and sometimes with pretty cool angles.[/color][/quote] Right now Adult Swim is somewhere in the early twenties, in terms of episode number. Do the battles get a lot better later on in the series or something? While I think the extended action scenes are pretty well choreographed, and there have been some very impressive sequences, FMA indulges in still shots and motion lines a bit too often for my tastes. Samurai Champloo's fights, for example, contain a lot more actual movement. ~Dagger~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 [color=darkslateblue] Yeah, the fight scenes in the beginning are definately more dull. I personally [i]hate[/i] still shots and motion lines, so I wasn't very impressed at the first half of FMA. And I'm also not saying that the latter half is chock-full of cool fight scenes. No way, lol. There's only two fight scenes in the whole series that I thought were 'cool', but they impressed me enough. And between those two, one of them isn't [i]that[/i] great. But the cool one is...pretty dang cool. :3 My favorites are in the openings/endings, which is the main reason I'm dissappointed that CN aren't playing them. In other news, an official release of some of the cast members for the FMA movie came out (it was released in the 2nd official movie pamphlet):[/color] [spoiler] - Paku Romi - Kugimiya Rie - Toyoguchi Megumi - Ookawa Tooru - Utsumi Kenji - Neya Michiko - Asou Miyoko - Tsukayama Masane The official roles have not been release, but if it is assumed that the voice-actors listed above are playing the same character, the confirmed characters include: Edward Elric, Alphonse Heiderich, Winry Rockbell, Roy Mustang, Alex Louis Armstrong, Riza Hawkeye, Pinako Rockbell, and Karl Haushofer. My opinion: I hope these aren't the [i]main[/i] characters. Although I am happy to see that Roy and Riza will be in it.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noside Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Aside: Damn I haven't posted in a while. My god FMA's consistently getting better. It's building up really well at this point and we're barely half way through. I've said this a lot and I'll say it again, this is an anime everyone needs to check out. [spoiler] The last couple episodes have been great. Discovering how to make the stone, Ed starting to accept his height and limbs and of course isn't too happy when he realizes it, and a bit more light is being shed about Scar and the Trio of Harrolquins(SP?) The second I realized Barry the Chopper was there I knew the Sewing Life Alchemist was alive. [/spoiler] Heh at this time of night I've obviously made a sloppy post, but even with spoiler tags I couldn't help but try not to give too many details. With how far it's gone I'm curious if they'll go all the way through or stop and show reruns for a while. I'm definately hoping for the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 [spoiler]The latest episode would have been awesome no matter what, since it featured Tucker's debut as a chimera (I adore his whispery new voice). But naturally many other parts of the episode were excellent as well, from Ed's anguished debate with the two "suit of armor" brothers to Barry's hysterical method of giving Scar the slip. I particularly liked seeing Al and Scar have a civil conversation and even sort of work together; I thought that was really nice. Plus Greed (who is voiced by one of my favorite dub actors--I love how Funi has made a habit of borrowing ADV's best VAs!) also made an appearance, and he seems to be just my type. The pointed teeth were a nice touch.[/spoiler] I have a slightly unrelated question. On Saturday, I noticed that FMA was rated TV-14. Has this been true for prior episodes as well, or is it new? EDIT: To answer your question, Noside, I believe FMA is taking a break after episode 25 or episode 26. ~Dagger~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 [color=darkslateblue] I've been mulling over my review I've written for FMA for several days now. While there are many good reviews of FMA floating around the internet, there is also a fair share of reviews that give FMA low ratings. And they're not flaming reviews that make no sense, they're all very well-written at least to some extent. So just to bring up discussion, I thought I'd point out some of the flaws of FMA that many people see/point out: Plot holes Quality, not quantity A rushed/crappy ending Lame writing Poor planning of the last 20 episodes No characters development The first half was amazing, but the second half sucked It has so much potential, but it bombed It's overhyped That's most of the major complaints, so I thought I'd take on three each post. [b]Plot holes[/b] -It's true. FMA has tons of plot holes. My opinion of plot holes: truly, I'm 50/50 on this topic. I either hate plot holes or don't mind them at all, it all depends on my opinion of the whole thing. My overall opinion of FMA is very good, so when it comes to plot holes, I don't mind that much. The plot holes in FMA are largely opinionated ones or ones that are subject to discussion. Seriously, once I heard someone complaining that "once Hawkeye shot her gun 6 times but there were 7 bullet holes! omg plot hole!" But also there are plot holes that really do matter, such as [spoiler] Wrath performing alchemy.[/spoiler] It all comes down to personal preference. I don't really care, since I get a good impression of FMA overall. [b]Quality, not quantity[/b] -So what was the [i]main[/i] theme of FMA? Many peoples' answer: "Who knows? There were too many jammed into the anime to begin with. Don't ask me what the main theme is." In all truth, [i]don't[/i] ask me what the main theme is. There's no way anybody other than the director could tell you precisely what it was. Perhaps that is what the FMA anime series was aiming for, and perhaps they were trying to get across a main theme and failed at doing it in a clear manner. What I do know is that there are tons of themes packed into the anime. Once again, personal preference. IMO, I don't think the number of themes in FMA really destroyed any of the quality. And I don't think that if FMA had tried to just get across one or two main themes, it would be any better or worse. I'm sure there are people who would have liked it if FMA concentrated on just several certain themes. All of this is very subjective, so I can't really say much. [b]A Rushed/Crappy Ending[/b] -A lot of fans dislike the ending. Why? I don't know. I've seen many people call it 'getting EVA-like'. I still don't understand what people would have [i]liked[/i] to seen. I thought the ending was good enough, although I seem to always like endings when everyone else hates them (i.e. I actually liked Evangelion's ending). Other people blame the bad ending on a sloppy last twenty-episodes. Once again, I go against most: I like the last twenty episodes best. And then there are the people who hated how the 'whole plot' was made up in the last three episodes. THIS is something I truly don't get. I thought the plot was about Ed and Al searching for the Philoshopher's Stone, not the story of [spoiler] Hoenheim, Dante, and Envy.[/spoiler] So before I even really say anything about this, I still need to know why fans were so dissappointed.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamuro Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 you mentioned the main theme, well, I havn't seen evry episode of the series, but I thought the philosopher's stone was the main story? I mean they do entwine different characters and such to Ed and Al, but from what I've seen almost every episode is based on the transfering of Al to his body through the philosopher's stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmystic_silverx Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 You were talking about how people get this idea about how FMA has [i]a lack of theme[/i], but I think that there are so many themes and lessons that FMA sends through that it makes up for one distinct theme. My friend and I have been thinking about this and she came up with, "the human will be able to over come any obstical. Like how their mother died and they lost parts (and all in al's case) of their bodies. Most would be expected to give up, but they keep going, so in a way, they're a personaified version of the fighting spirit I guess." This is all what she said and I think I agree with it. I'm not saying that this is really what the theme is, its just what she got out of it. I think it depends on the person's perception is. Like in art, everyone gets a different message out of an art, so I think I can think the same about FMA.Its not that FMA [i]doesn't[/i] have a theme, its just that there are so many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzureWolf Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 [COLOR=blue]Well, [url=http://www.animefringe.com/]Animefringe[/url] is finally done with their April Fool's Joke. Funny enough, Lunox, their April magazine has [url=http://www.animefringe.com/magazine/2005/04/special/04.php]a special on FMA[/url] that complains about the show rather than praises it (has spoilers). I don't have time to comment on everything (maybe this weekend - if at all), but I thought I'd toss this article in here and see if you can pickup on the problems this person admits to without realizing it. Just a few points I'd like to make: First and foremost, she starts out with the tried and tired "I heard it's great, so why haven't I, the greatest of the greatest otakus, seen it?" Immediately, that's going to put in you a disposition where you're not going to enjoy a show in the slightest. You will be looking for flaws and trying to find a reason not to like it. Why? So you can still be called #1 otaku for not having seen it earlier, as it was a show that wasn't worth a true otaku's time. I could have said that more politely and more politically correct, but you get the idea. Second, most of the article is abstract, consisting of, "things should be like this because they are supposed to be like this, handed down by generations of masters of storytelling." Bull. Solid examples in FMA of why not following the norm is bad would have been better than saying abstract comments. You can't even argue for or against those remarks because she doesn't use examples after making these claims. Last, what examples she does provide have serious problems. The [SPOILER]gate stuff[/SPOILER] was not a deus ex machina (aka "copout"). It's been there since the first few episodes, alluded to ever since the beginning. IMO, this is clearly a case where her flawed disposition kicks in and she desperately manifests a flaw that doesn't exist. With the second example, if you revealed [SPOILER]Envy's true identity[/SPOILER], you would have revealed [SPOILER]Hohenheim and his sins[/SPOILER] prematurely. Again, another scenario where arrogance manifested a nonexistent error. I haven't read it all, admittedly, but I read the last paragraph, which is a complete crock ([B]there are no spoilers in the last paragraph, and I think everyone should read it just to see how ludicrous it is[/B]). This paragrah clearly illustrates the author's insecurity and stuggle to discredit FMA. It was too desperate, though, so she loses a lot of validity right here. IMO, this is an otaku vying for not being the first to discover FMA. You know how those people are: if you aren't the first to get it on your block, then you have to make sure everyone knows it's not something worth getting. Again, that's just my conclusion from not reading all of it, so she could potentially have better points along the road. I honestly do hope the middle of this rant is more tangible and concrete than what it has been so far. Also, it would have been nice to see what shows the author thought were better than FMA, if only to use the same abstract logic she did right back at her. ^^[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 [color=darkslateblue] Someone once gave me the link to that review, Azure. Your post basically summed up what I thought about it. Then there was the whole: "OooOOooo! I know literary terms! I am smart!' thing in the middle of the review. But I have to say that I agree with one point in her review: there are plot holes. I'm not sure she said anything specifically about plot holes, but she'd probably agree with there being plot holes anyway. But the main reason I got irritated by this review was because she went up against two of the strongest elements in FMA: Ed's character development and the themes of FMA. She clearly stated that Ed did not change at all and was still the same person he was from episode 1. Did she not watch the last twenty episodes? I could understand someone saying that Ed was [i]sort of[/i] a static character, but not changing at all? BS. Another point she brought up against FMA was that it would do anything to make its audience cry. This was the argument she made against FMA having too many themes. [/color] [i]Mass murder, chimeras, dying babies, there's nothing that Fullmetal Alchemist won't do to choke a tear out of you. As a fellow writer said, it wouldn't have been surprising if at the end they killed a puppy just for good measure. Rose's baby is a good example of this sort of ploy. It gets dangled, it cries, you wonder if it's going to live or die, but in the end you don't care anymore. There's only so much sensationalism that an anime can have before it stops being heavy, and starts becoming a chore. And what is the purpose of all this sadness? What is the theme it reveals?[/i] [color=darkslateblue](Ironically, none of the things she mentioned that was put into the series as a cry-factor were the things that actually made me cry.) And now that I think of it, no great literary work has ever just contained one theme. If you think about it, all the themes that FMA creates can only go under one category: life. Was the main theme (if there was one) a statement about life? Sure, why not? If the reviewer wasn't so focused on trying to discredit FMA, some of the arguments she made could have been written into something very, very interesting. Maybe if she looked back on it after a month or so, she could develop a great review. It had the potential.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulreaper Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 did anyone see saturdays episode all and scar actually cooperated (wierd) and can someone tell me whose idea was it to make lust and the rest of her coharts in crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmystic_silverx Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 [quote name='Lunox][color=darkslateblue'] Then there was the whole: "OooOOooo! I know literary terms! I am smart!' thing in the middle of the review. [/color][/quote] That was almost the same thing I was thinking when she started saying "My english teacher would be very proud of me now... " Pfft! I dont agree with the Point of view. If FMA was written like a book it would be in the third person, right? That's what I'm thinking because if Ed was telling the story it would be in first person and second person is talking about "you", the person reading and it's clearly not, so the only one left is third person. [i]Fullmetal Alchemist switches its point of view quite often, and the reason it does so is very amateur indeed. From Mustang to Scar to Winry...[/i] Maybe she doesn't now all her literary terms, because Point of view isn't switching to another person in the story, point of view it totally changing [i]who[/i] tells the story, or that's what I've been told in school. The director (or whoever XP) is telling the story of Ed and Al, then switched to Winry and tells a little about her, and so on. Its not changing the point of view. Lets just go by her definition of Point of view for a second and compare it with some other [i]amateur[/i] works. If her definition was right, then wouldn't the way Harry Potter switches from Harry to Sirius in the fifth book be amateur, too? Maybe I have this all wrong, but that's what I learned in my Literature class this year. (hopefully Im right =_=, probably not though...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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