Hinata Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [COLOR=skyblue]I know that the majority of use have taken history..if only a little and we see what happens in our nations everyday... But from what you've either read or heard... I wonder who would you classify as a good leader!!! By leader I maen like Presidents, Kings, Queens, and person with strong political power...that sort of thing.. [/COLOR] [COLOR=seagreen] I personally like the following 1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Frm. Pres of USA) 2. Jesse "the Body" Ventura ( Gov. of Minnesota, USA) 3. Bill Clinton ( esp. the scandal :P...) 4. Cleopatra (Queen of Eygpt) 5. Ramses (King of Eygpt) and many others.... [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [B]This is why I disagree with some aspects of politics. Leaders can and will get millions and millions of people to fight and die for them in a war, whilst they are in some the most heavily fortified locations. Take, for example, The queen of England. In world war II she was one of the most defended things in England. Why should 400 or so people decide the fate of millions? Sorry this is slightly off topic but I thought I would take this time to say that[/B] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*GaLxY-GiRl* Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Napoleon Bonaparte (emperor of France) + Julius Caesar (dictator of Rome, Italy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treble Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [b]Abraham Lincoln[/b](Frm.President he did many things in past that I admire.) [b]Bill Clinton[/b](Frm.President good president from what I've seen) [b]Patrick Henry[/b](Give me Liberty or Give me Death... ) [b]Martin Luther King[/b](Great African American Leader) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinata Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Elite DBZ [/i] [B][B]This is why I disagree with some aspects of politics. Leaders can and will get millions and millions of people to fight and die for them in a war, whilst they are in some the most heavily fortified locations. Take, for example, The queen of England. In world war II she was one of the most defended things in England. Why should 400 or so people decide the fate of millions? Sorry this is slightly off topic but I thought I would take this time to say that[/B] [/B][/QUOTE] Well although leaders do have people to protect them from war..The people CHOOSE TO FIGHT. They don't have to fight for their country or leader if they don't want to (in some countries at least), but I'm not a political expert and also these people who do fight in wars are not just fighting for the leaders protection but for the protection of their nation, state family friends whoever they wish to protect!!!!! That's the main purpose of the Armed forces...not for the leaders protection( that is except for those who are the personal body guards of the leader!!!!!!! SORRY TO GET OFF SUBJECT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyJaUn~FuLlEr Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Treble [/i] [B][b]Abraham Lincoln[/b](Frm.President he did many things in past that I admire.) [b]Bill Clinton[/b](Frm.President good president from what I've seen) [b]Patrick Henry[/b](Give me Liberty or Give me Death... ) [b]Martin Luther King[/b](Great African American Leader) [/B][/QUOTE] I totally agree with u those r the peeps i would pic as good leaders!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Sama Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 I'll Take [b][SIZE=100]GOD[/SIZE][/b] as my choice......You people have no sence of religion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zero-Sama [/i] [B]I'll Take [b][SIZE=100]GOD[/SIZE][/b] as my choice......You people have no sence of religion.... [/B][/QUOTE] Amen to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zero-Sama [/i] [B]You people have no sence of religion.... [/B][/QUOTE] I'll take that as a compliment :) ANyway, some of my favorite leaders are ironically ones who were against each other during WWII... FDR (Franklin D. Roosevelt/US President) and Admiral Yamamoto (Leader of the Japanese Naval fleet/Responcible for the attack on Pearl Harbor) Others I like are and leader of any civil rights movement. Anyone who supports gay rights, race rights, religious rights, women's rights, and all the good stuff... Some of my favorite leaders of this country would be Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F Kennedy, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Bill Clinton... I also liked George Bush Sr. to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Sama Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Defcon5 [/i] [B] Amen to that. [/B][/QUOTE] Amen Brother!Praise the Holy Name and let or sins be forgotten so we can once again be rapped in our Lords Glory!AMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Sama Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] I'll take that as a compliment :) [/B][/QUOTE] ............I'm not even gonna ask Nervy-Chan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zero-Sama [/i] [B]I'll Take [b][SIZE=100]GOD[/SIZE][/b] as my choice......You people have no sence of religion.... [/B][/QUOTE] That's starting something that needn't be started here again. So, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop before someone else says something arrogant. Thank you, buh-bye. Some of my favorite leaders would be: Admiral Yamamoto Julius Ceasar(Oh, GG, back then it was just Rome. No Italy.) General Sun Tzu General Cao Cao Uesugi Kenshin Note that I base mine on their effectivness in battle. Not their politics. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Sama Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Sorry Justin,You know i'm a good guy,So i'll stop........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zero-Sama [/i] [B] ............I'm not even gonna ask Nervy-Chan.... [/B][/QUOTE] Some people don't believe in religion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-Sama Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Oh,The whole Homosexual and Bi-Sexual Hate thing some religions have.....Sorry Nervy-Chan,I forgot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinata Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 #1 I understand that you want to put [B]GOD[/B] into this but I was talking about earthly leaders not spiritualleaders (although JESUS was an imporant influence on politics during his time)...and I don't mean that to sound condesending but religion was not the name of my topic and not to say that I don't love GOD cause I do and I believe in him....But please don't start any arguements in here....or bash what other ppl say..... THANX!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Dark Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 It depends on what kind of situation the leader is in. If it is in war, then a Prime Minister like Neville Chamberlain is no good, as we saw in the years leading to the war. Then there was Winston Churchill, who was really good in war, but rubbish in peace. Whoever they are, they must be strong and focused. My favourites are: Martin Luther King; Franklin Delano Roosevelt; Can't think of anymore just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji v2.0 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Let's see... Adolf Hitler (Leader of the Socialist party in Germany) Pierre Trudeau (Prime Minister of Canada during the 60's...you know...the one who gave people the finger, and invoked the War Measures Act) Mao Zedong (Leader of Red China) That's about it... Come to think of it, Lenin was pretty cool, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9* Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 abraham lincoln george washington winston churchill mr. guilioni - former nyc mayor ......bush jr. has gotten better since 9/11, he's finally grown up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delian Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 JFK Marting Luther King Julius Ceasar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon5 Posted January 18, 2002 Share Posted January 18, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zero-Sama [/i] [B]Oh,The whole Homosexual and Bi-Sexual Hate thing some religions have.....Sorry Nervy-Chan,I forgot! [/B][/QUOTE] Don't say any more. It will be better for all of us. ;) Could someone please fill me in on how Bill was a good pres. I was to young to understand how he was good. And the only things I really know about him are His scandle and him pardoning people for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*GaLxY-GiRl* Posted January 18, 2002 Share Posted January 18, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] Some people don't believe in religion... [/B][/QUOTE] *claps* Thank you, muchly... I was going to post something, but you stole the thought from me.... came out the way I would of put it.... but uh, I would have posted something like, [i]since when can an inanimate object of the Christian (and other) faith be a leader?[/i]... oh wait, I just did. But yeah, a lot of people don't believe in God, or retaining a religion period.... so.... it's not like it offends me, but the way you put it [i]was[/i] arrogent...... ok, I'm rambling. [b]Yeah! Napoleon! Seize, conquer, get thrown out, and come right back! The dude rocked the 1700's![/b] :wigout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted January 18, 2002 Share Posted January 18, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Shinji v2.0 [/i] [B]Let's see... Adolf Hitler (Leader of the Socialist party in Germany) Pierre Trudeau (Prime Minister of Canada during the 60's...you know...the one who gave people the finger, and invoked the War Measures Act) Mao Zedong (Leader of Red China) That's about it... Come to think of it, Lenin was pretty cool, too.[/B][/QUOTE][SIZE=1]:rotflmao: You said everybody I was going to say. These affectionately dubbed "bad guys" have interesting lives behind them. Oh, and don't forget Stalin.[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted January 18, 2002 Share Posted January 18, 2002 [color=indigo]I am not sure what a good leader is, do you mean a leader who has my respect or just a good overall leader??? Here is Both [b]top 5 leaders[/b] Adolf Hitler-used the bad economy to his advantage. He built a small empire by creating hate in a down trodden people. He nearly accomplished an insane goal and almost wiped out an entire faith of people in Europe Alexander the Great-possibly the greatest leader ever, conquered the known world by the time he was 23 Julius Ceaser- there is no need to talk about Ceaser, He established the greatest city ever. An entire empire was built around one city... Thomas Jefferson-he should be known as the founder of democratic societies...no country would be democratic without his ideas that were borrowed from an incredible amount of sources. Joseph Stalin-The exact opposite of Jefferson...although he didn't found communistic ideals he did show the only effective way to rule a coomunist nation is by using fear [b]Most respected leaders[/b] Ieyasu Tokugawa-He was the wiliest leader of all time in my opinion Thomas Jefferson Abe Lincoln- He rejoined the union, freed the slaves, and is the greatest American president of all time Henry 8th- Made protestantism known, because of him religious tolleration will eventually occur...hundreds of years later Nelson Mandella Martin Luther King Junior- I cannot write enough about these two men. There efforts were among the most noble of any human on earth[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibo Posted January 18, 2002 Share Posted January 18, 2002 Yup...I don't belive in Religion but thats me myself. And the top leader in my opinion is ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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