kizu Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 I keep on reading the thread that deal with the GC and in nearly everyone the GC threads thereis someone that thinks the GC is for kiddies. I have one question for someone who thinks that the GC is for kiddies. Have you played Super Smash Bros. Melee on it. If you think that game is for kiddies then go to a friends house who has a GC and play that game. Go to the event matches and beat all 51. After you do that come back on here and tell me if you still think that it is for kiddies. I get tired of people saying that, you can't judge a system mearly by playing one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.D Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 [color=rainbow] GCN for kiddies? Obviously someone doesn't know of any other game then Super Monkey Ball.:rolleyes: Wait till Eternal Darkness comes into stores. Anyway, they could have easily judged the GCN like that, figuring that most Nintendo games are aimed for gamers 8-14. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorykoAngelcry Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 [COLOR=darkred][SIZE=1]I myself am also tired of hearing things like this, but as it has been said many times: If it doesn't contain arms being chopped off, dead bodies everywhere, and lots of blood and gore, with the occasional sawed off shotgun, then it is a kiddie game. With Nintendo, no one points out how good the game QUALITY is, instead, they point out that the main star is a fat little plumber who jumps on the backs of turtles to K.O. them. That is all they need to see, and they will not TOUCH the game. This is truly sad, because as so many have said, the gameplay, replay value, and overall quality of these games are ten times better then what other systems put out. I wish people would actually try these games, instead of feeling pressured to jump on the gore/violence bandwagon, and start ridiculing the Nintendo style games for their 'kiddyish' looks and style. While Nintendo GAMECUBE DOES have some very strong Adult titles coming out, I fear that people will still look at the majority of the other games, and say: Wow, Nintendo is a kiddy system. Oh well, I pick gameplay over gore anyday. And it is good to know that a core chunk of other gamers feel that same way too. ^_^ [/SIZE][/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 I usually here that from my friends, who are PS2 fanatics..... usually people just say it, because they have no knowledge of what the GameCube is like, or they hear from someone else.... I too am sick of it... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NorykoAngelcry [/i] [B][COLOR=darkred][SIZE=1] I wish people would actually try these games, instead of feeling pressured to jump on the gore/violence bandwagon, and start ridiculing the Nintendo style games for their 'kiddyish' looks and style. [/SIZE][/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE] Well actually a lot of the people opposed to these games are kids who [B]a) aren't old enough to buy the adult games[/B] and/or [B]b) own another system and cannot get their parents to fork out the cash for another system and are jealous.[/B] I do not see why owners of the system care what other people think, as long as they're happy with the purchase and enjoy the games. I mean, really, why care about these usually unintelligent opinions? As I mentioned in another thread, I enjoy light hearted games such as Parappa the Rapper. I bet I'll even get Square's Kingdom Hearts for the PS2. That stars Donald Duck and Goofy; how much more childish can you get in concept? It does have a dark twist on it though... You'll never find people calling Sony a childish system because of these games. Why? Because most people have a Playstation 2 already due to it's earlier launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syk3 Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 To those who think GCN is for kiddies, and from someone who still favors PS2:p (...yes they can be two different people...), just wait until the re-make of Resident Evil comes out for the system. What game is more opposite of kiddie than this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jabroni3:16 Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 Guys do we actually need a thread about this? Rather than stop saying the word, people will just do it more often because they know it annoys you, heck, i used the word do describe a GAME and look at all the flack that i caught. (check out the Zelda:GameCube thread that was moved, but please try not bring that argument here, it will anger the mods, and the same points will be brought up again and again) I think us GCN fans in general need to become less offensive when the word "Kiddie" and GCN (or something relating to it) are used in the same sentence. Remember it's just an adjective, if they don't want to buy the system because of that reason, that's their loss, or if i want to "dismiss" the new Zelda game that's my loss, it doesn't, or at least shouldn't, affect your opinion of the system/game. I only responded because i felt that this thread was started because of what was said on the said thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i] [B] Well actually a lot of the people opposed to these games are kids who [B]a) aren't old enough to buy the adult games[/B] and/or [B]b) own another system and cannot get their parents to fork out the cash for another system and are jealous.[/B] I do not see why owners of the system care what other people think, as long as they're happy with the purchase and enjoy the games. I mean, really, why care about these usually unintelligent opinions? As I mentioned in another thread, I enjoy light hearted games such as Parappa the Rapper. I bet I'll even get Square's Kingdom Hearts for the PS2. That stars Donald Duck and Goofy; how much more childish can you get in concept? It does have a dark twist on it though... You'll never find people calling Sony a childish system because of these games. Why? Because most people have a Playstation 2 already due to it's earlier launch. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]I agree with you completely. People are so obsessed with image. I enjoy everything from Resident Evil and Silent Hill to Super Mario Brothers and Zelda. The GameCube is an ideal mix, in my view. You can play something like Metroid or Resident Evil if you're feeling like something adult...or you can play Super Mario or Luigi's Mansion if you are in the mood to chill out with something genuinely fun. A console with too many "mature" games is actually a bad thing in my opinion...but I think PS2 has a good mix as well. :)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desbreko Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Jabroni3:16 [/i] [B]I think us GCN fans in general need to become less offensive when the word "Kiddie" and GCN (or something relating to it) are used in the same sentence.[/B][/QUOTE] [color=indigo]I don't really get offended, I just used to try and find out [i]why[/i] they thought that the GCN is a "kiddie" system, and see if they had a legitimate reason. Anymore, I do just ignore it, and I think everyone else should too. Ignoring it may not make it go away, but we don't have to deal with it, either.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solid Snake Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 [COLOR=teal]I believe that you mean people are saying Nintendo was for kids, not just GCN. I would never call Nintendo anything close to "kiddie". With Resident Evil due to come out, as well as Grand Theft Auto 3 which I read from a gaming magazine, Nintendo is in line with all of the other systems. If you are one of the people calling this system "kiddie," then why don't you take a look at some of Sony's games. I have noticed that PSX is taking any and every game for it's system, including a lot which you may think are very "kiddie," just go to a store and look at their selection. Each system does not have only one kind of games. They all have a veriaty of games taking in mind the age of someone who may be playing that system. Plus, having too many Mature rated games is bad too. Should we be saying that Sony is too "adulty?" I think that you are basing your conclusions of Nintendo being kiddie on the box cover and name, rather than the game play. If you played some more of their games, I am SURE that you would no longer think that it is kiddie. Super Monkey Ball. "Kiddie?" Try getting past the expert mode. Too hard? Maybe it's not just for little kids...[/COLOR] :blah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 I had an interesting thought today about this subject. A lot of people base the "Kiddie" concept on blood and gore. Although, I agree that GameCube is not primarily a child's system based on this argument, I do see [I]some[/I] grounds for Nintendo appearing childish. To my recollection, I have yet to see Nintendo conjure up a truly adult concept for a GameCube title. By "truly adult" I mean something with a really mature storyline like Metal Gear Solid's. While Zelda's or Mario's storylines may appeal to people of all ages, I have yet to see something focus just on the adult group. And, no, Resident Evil does not count seeing as how it's from Capcom. [I]I just had to make an argument against Nintendo seeing as how not many people do![/I]:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i] [B]I had an interesting thought today about this subject. A lot of people base the "Kiddie" concept on blood and gore. Although, I agree that GameCube is not primarily a child's system based on this argument, I do see [I]some[/I] grounds for Nintendo appearing childish. To my recollection, I have yet to see Nintendo conjure up a truly adult concept for a GameCube title. By "truly adult" I mean something with a really mature storyline like Metal Gear Solid's. While Zelda's or Mario's storylines may appeal to people of all ages, I have yet to see something focus just on the adult group. And, no, Resident Evil does not count seeing as how it's from Capcom. [I]I just had to make an argument against Nintendo seeing as how not many people do![/I]:p [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]I see it this way: Nintendo's games are for [b]all ages[/b]. The company isn't in a position where it needs to specifically target older audiences. Also, Nintendo's strategy indicates that it tends to rely more on third parties for adult-oriented software. You may say "that's not from Nintendo", but I think it's irrelevant. The third party portion of the business is a part of Nintendo's whole approach. However, Nintendo is moving more in the adult direction. With titles such as Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness and Perfect Dark Zero...in actuality, Nintendo has no shortage of "in-house" adult software. :)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 I have a perfectly good rebuttal for that Perfect Dark point. I forgot all about Perfect Dark Zero! :whoops: Anyway though, I'm a bit skeptical about Metroid. I know that it will be a quality title and all, but there's the underlying concern that it won't be much like the Metroid I remember. When I get GameCube later on(for Wrestlemania this June), I know that Metroid will be on my list so don't take it like I'm knocking the game...just yet. It'll probably be better than most of the first person shooters out there, but living up to the series will be a huge challenge . I guess my argument's weak because I'm not really as behind it as I should be.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i] [B]I have a perfectly good rebuttal for that Perfect Dark point. I forgot all about Perfect Dark Zero! :whoops: Anyway though, I'm a bit skeptical about Metroid. I know that it will be a quality title and all, but there's the underlying concern that it won't be much like the Metroid I remember. When I get GameCube later on(for Wrestlemania this June), I know that Metroid will be on my list so don't take it like I'm knocking the game...just yet. It'll probably be better than most of the first person shooters out there, but living up to the series will be a huge challenge . I guess my argument's weak because I'm not really as behind it as I should be.:laugh: [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]Yeah, I know you're playing devil's advocate so to speak...in terms of trying to provide alternate views...which is always a good thing. :) From what I've seen of Metroid so far...(the two videos), it's shaping up to be very fine indeed. Nintendo have been very strict in this regard; Shigeru Miyamoto has spent a lot of time making changes and providing direct feedback and advice on the game. But also, the staff who form Retro Studios come from many companies which are associated with good FPS games. They come from companies such as Valve (nuff said), Iguana (Turok) and even some from Rare and Nintendo. So I have faith in the game. Visually, it puts Halo to shame lol...but I really hope that it will borrow old Metroid elements, while also providing new direction in the series. Who knows: this could be the huge rebirth of Metroid that everyone's waiting for. I think Nintendo has too much riding on this title to let us down...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desbreko Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B] [color=royalblue]but I really hope that it will borrow old Metroid elements, while also providing new direction in the series.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=indigo]Two words: [URL=http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,447244-46,00.html]Morph Ball[/URL]. :) Of course Metroid Prime won't be like the first three Metroid games... The guy that did most of the programing work on the first three died in a car crash... :( If you're looking for classic Metroid gameplay, get Metroid IV for the GBA, which should be coming out in the second quater of 2002, I think, before Metroid Prime. I read that Metroid IV will use a lot of code that's similar to Super Metroid, so they should have a lot in common, in terms of how the game plays. The only thing that would keep me from getting Metroid IV is if, like some people have speculated because of the timer in the video shown at Space World 2002, there's a time limit on the whole game. That's what kept me from buying Pikmin (although I can just borrow it from my friend, now, since he got it for his birthday).[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treble Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jcgoudy [/i] [B] [color=indigo]Two words: [URL=http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,447244-46,00.html]Morph Ball[/URL]. :) Of course Metroid Prime won't be like the first three Metroid games... The guy that did most of the programing work on the first three died in a car crash... :([/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Just thought that I should make the famous legend name reconizied(sp?). The name of the great man who did most of the programming work on Metroid,along with his invention "Virtual Boy", is [b][i]"Gumpei Yokoi[/i][/b]". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shift Posted March 2, 2002 Share Posted March 2, 2002 [COLOR=darkblue]Oh [B]HELL[/B] NO GCN aint' for kiddies...it's for all types of gamers...[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoTranzrig Posted March 2, 2002 Share Posted March 2, 2002 [COLOR=darkblue]More like GCN is for funlovers...N64 might be called a system aimed at kids perhaps...but not GameCube it's for everyone...and I guess each game they make can be enjoyed by almost everyone.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotenksSSJ343 Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 GC for everyone but my friend told me this "how can something were most games are T be called a kiddie system i get SA2B,THPS and SSBM what are they T,T, and a big fat T" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 4, 2002 Share Posted March 4, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Treble [/i] [B] Just thought that I should make the famous legend name reconizied(sp?). The name of the great man who did most of the programming work on Metroid,along with his invention "Virtual Boy", is [b][i]"Gumpei Yokoi[/i][/b]". [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]Just an interesting side note to that - Gunpei Yokoi was one of the most important figures in Nintendo's history. When Nintendo began producing electronic games, Gunpei Yokoi was the company's primary software designer/programmer. Gunpei Yokoi came up with many inventions during Nintendo's lifetime. Everything from the Game & Watch technology, to the Virtual Boy...and even the Game Boy were created by Gunpei Yokoi. In 1997 (I [i]think[/i] it was '97), Gunpei Yokoi left Nintendo to create his own company: Vic Tokai. However, in that same year, Mr. Yokoi died in a car accident. Gunpei Yokoi is often overlooked as one of Nintendo's most innovative minds...but he definitely deserves to be held in as high a regard as someone like Shigeru Miyamoto.[/color] :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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