Transtic Nerve Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Ok, I have this problem.... well actually my friend has this problem... I don't cross dress... I MIGHT if I wanted to, but I don't really want to so I won't... but one of my gay friends does occationally... Now here's what happened... The other day, Thursday I think, he went to school in a skirt, high heels, make up, wig, and fake breasts. As he was in second period he got called up to the principles office and was ordered to take off his clothes or be suspended... well not strip.. but to remove his make up, wig, high heels and fake breasts. His principle gave him a referal anyway.... Also before this day, his principle had told him he could not attend prom in a dress. Now, the clothes he was wearing that day did NOT break any dress code violation. Nor did it disrupt th class room in anyway.... he was wearing clothes, not being naked... The principle also said the reason to why he gave him the referal was because... and I quote: "Guys should dress like they own a bank and girls should dress like they work in a bank"... Now I dunno about you but that... that is the apitimy of sexism... So what are your thoughts? He's already called the local news stations and he has an interview with one on friday so far... this could turn into big news and I hope it does... I hope this a-hole of a principle gets fired... and that this will lead to less discrimination among faculty and students and between students on such issues as race, gender, sexual orientation or whatever you decide to wear... I am almost outraged at this, if I did go to this school I would give the principle a peice of my gay mind.... however I don't and my friend has gone through so much... he used to go to my old HS, but then he transfered after an incident with posters of him being posted around school saying he was gay after some girl found out and was crushed... I feel really bad but he's strong... but this is just stupid... and i hope that guy gets whats coming to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 [color=royalblue]I agree...the principal is acting like a total jerk. Good luck to your friend...I hope he can get his story noticed on a broader level. :)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hhe, our principle was that way.... he offended alot of people, and said alot of things that upset people.... I guess that's why he left... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delian Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 That's definitely discrimination and, coming from a principal, I find it absolutely disgusting. They should be supportive to all students, regardless of there preferences and your friend wasn't hurting anyone. If this pathetic excuse of a principal isn't fired, there is no justice.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 man, that sucks, I hope your principal gets whats coming to him, like james already said.... there seems to be a big homosexuality problem at my university, everyone seems to be afraid of gay people, which I think is just plain wrong, so to piss other people off, I go and hang around with them, they're much more interesting than those who fear them, they're better friends too, heck, a lot of people at university act like kids saying, oh this is gay, thats gay, your gay for looking at those gays, blah blah blah, its just damn irritating, and now they're talking about me, saying how I can be hanging around with gays if I'm married, and I had a good argument with a few people around it, saying.... "what? so because I hang around with gay people, does that make me any different? does that mean I'm becoming gay myself? and why do you fear gay people? its all just sexual preference, they're not going to pull your pants down and **** you if you get near them, if someone isn't gay, then they're not going to try anything with them, and by that I mean flirt, or ask them out, whatever, I just think you guys are being azzholes for having a totally different opinion on someone just because of their sexual preference" so, yeah, I was in a bad mood that day, and just let out both barrel's when I heard them say that crap about me, and about your friend cross dressing, tn, I personally don't see any problem with it, people wear clothes to express themselves, and to take that priviledge away from them is stupid.... bah, in a bad mood today again, I think I'll shut up now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 [color=royalblue]I agree 100% with Sephiroth. It's a shame more people don't think that way. When you seriously consider the way some people talk...and the justifications they use for bashing gay people, you realize how foolish and pathetic it really is. And that there isn't any point to it...it doesn't achieve anything...all it does is make people angry and make more problems than solutions.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mornigndew Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 [color=blue][size=1]About your friend cross-dressing, it's probably new and people not get used to the new image. Honestly, if I see someone dressed like that, I would think it's weird. The principle is a bit harsh on your friend. I hope his story can make it to the new (national) so people can have their view.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] The principle also said the reason to why he gave him the referal was because... and I quote: "Guys should dress like they own a bank and girls should dress like they work in a bank"... [/B][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]:cussing: So not only is he crossing the line with descrimination against sexual preference, but also with the different genders. That ***. He deserves to be punched in the face...by a woman...and a gay man...just to serve him right :p ::wanders off, muttering various curses::[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan L Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 I'll be brief with this... the principle's view is very bad.. but unfortunately is shared by many [i](do NOT take this as a way of saying 'I agree with him, cos I don't ;))[/i].. not that that makes it better, it just makes the world as a whole worse.. I'd say more, but I'd just be repeating both these and other peoples' words.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 i agree totally. you should be able to dress any way u want as long as it's apropriate in the dress code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k9* Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i] [B] [color=deeppink]:cussing: So not only is he crossing the line with descrimination against sexual preference, but also with the different genders. That ***. He deserves to be punched in the face...by a woman...and a gay man...just to serve him right :p ::wanders off, muttering various curses::[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] :devil: actually babygirl, i would prefer a sharp knee to a certain, vulnerable piece of that ***'s anatomy that he's using to think with instead of his brain... tn, i hop this so-called principle gets what's coming to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ssjsupreme Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 [COLOR=crimson]I also have a problem some what like your's but mine is not dealing with a persons sexual prefrence. mine has to do with the way people dress. not cross-dressing, but, all black, goth-style clothing. I dress in those[i]"dorky,uncool, baggy black pants,and a black hoodie.[i] now, just the other day, this kid, a freshman no less,[i](and i mean no offense to all the freshman out there, it's just the thing that, upper-classmen don't need to, and won't put up with freshmen telling me what i can and can't do, and when i can do it)[i] says to me,"hey, ***! why do you and your dumb Arse friends, go to the mall, and pick out some better clothes!?"now, you know the froshes that were"cool" through elementary and middle school, think they're still cool and are able to say anything they want to anybody? thaty is what they were like. then out of no where, some one says to my girlfriend, "and tell your whor# of a girl to put onsome make-up!" that just put me over the edge. i didn't just sit there, and, "take it like a man". i came out swinging:blackeye: . the principal broke up the fight, and right away slaped a saturday detention on me, and a fine for fighting. before i had a chance to explain. then, he took the freshmen to his office, and explained to him that what he did was wrong and say he was sorry.[i][b]that was all he got.[b][i]This is the first fight i have ever got in to in highschool, and i got a fine and a saturday detention. it's like i got beat with a bamboo stick, and he got a soft slap on the back of his hand. and i would not doubt for an instant that it was because i was a goth, and he fell into the gap. it's pathetic. anyway, i'm glad your friend is seeking justice in a unfair world, and i hope he suceeds[COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyca_lightwing Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 And we wonder why our world is in such a state when ignorant small minded people like that are at the top levels of our institutions!?! I hope your friend gets as much publicity as he can and that the principal gets what he deserves. On a side note, no fuss was made when a female friend of mine went to the prom in a suit. And the day I dress "like I work in a bank" will be the day hell freezes over. :flaming: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char! Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 [SIZE=1][B]FORTUNATELY I GO TO A SCHOOL WHERE ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DISCRIMINATION OF ANY KIND, AND WHERE PEOPLE WEAR THE WIDEST VARIETIES OF CLOTHES... THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT. AS FOR THAT IDIOT PRINCIPAL, HE NEEDS TO GET FIRED, OR KNEED, OR SOMETHING VERY JUSTIFIED...[/B][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Grrrrr.......... Sexist b*stard! I say hang that so-called principle. Literally. Ok, maybe not. But still. If the parish board or whatever allows for students to wear what they want(grounds permitting), then they should back the Hell off. This **** pisses me off. I mean, if they set themselves up for this(School Boards), then they should accept what the students choose to wear. If someone wants to cross-dress, let them. This is just another case of that Supreme Court trial where kids at this high school were suspended for continuiously wearing these arm bands which had a peace symbol on them, to show their opisiotion to the Vietnam War. The arm bands were just another way of telling their feelings. As is your friend's attire, TN. Just a way to express himself. When things like this happen, I get mad. Me mad=not good. But seriously, I hope this "principle" gets fired. AND he went to the media?! I hope this self-serving bastard gets ran over by a car with spikes on the wheels. This **** just pisses me off. Good luck to you and your friend......... Edit: At our school, we don't have ths problem of cross-dressing; we have uniforms. Heck. It seems to work. Juvinile deaths by murder has gone down by about 10% these past few years. Bah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shift Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]Ok, I have this problem.... well actually my friend has this problem... I don't cross dress... I MIGHT if I wanted to, but I don't really want to so I won't... but one of my gay friends does occationally... Now here's what happened... The other day, Thursday I think, he went to school in a skirt, high heels, make up, wig, and fake breasts. As he was in second period he got called up to the principles office and was ordered to take off his clothes or be suspended... well not strip.. but to remove his make up, wig, high heels and fake breasts. His principle gave him a referal anyway.... Also before this day, his principle had told him he could not attend prom in a dress. Now, the clothes he was wearing that day did NOT break any dress code violation. Nor did it disrupt th class room in anyway.... he was wearing clothes, not being naked... The principle also said the reason to why he gave him the referal was because... and I quote: "Guys should dress like they own a bank and girls should dress like they work in a bank"... Now I dunno about you but that... that is the apitimy of sexism... So what are your thoughts? He's already called the local news stations and he has an interview with one on friday so far... this could turn into big news and I hope it does... I hope this a-hole of a principle gets fired... and that this will lead to less discrimination among faculty and students and between students on such issues as race, gender, sexual orientation or whatever you decide to wear... I am almost outraged at this, if I did go to this school I would give the principle a peice of my gay mind.... however I don't and my friend has gone through so much... he used to go to my old HS, but then he transfered after an incident with posters of him being posted around school saying he was gay after some girl found out and was crushed... I feel really bad but he's strong... but this is just stupid... and i hope that guy gets whats coming to him... [/B][/QUOTE] That principle is a [b]BASTARD!!![/b] Seriously my principles not that bad!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted February 28, 2002 Author Share Posted February 28, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mornigndew [/i] [B][color=blue][size=1]About your friend cross-dressing, it's probably new and people not get used to the new image. Honestly, if I see someone dressed like that, I would think it's weird. The principle is a bit harsh on your friend. I hope his story can make it to the new (national) so people can have their view.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Well he had also done it earlier in the year... however he was not confronted at all about it.... I think the fact that he wanted to go to prom in a dress caused some stir in the principals pants, and now everything he does the principal wants to jump on him for.... it's really sad... and we know people that could get this out to all of Orlando... many connections in the gay community here heh. You should have seen what that dumbass republican official guy said last year to gay people meeting in the state capital.... something like "Gays break all natural laws and go against the bible and should go to hell".... on PUBLIC TV.... and due to that, the gay community got backing from MANY Democrats for a bill we are trying to get passed that protects people in school based on gender, sexual prefrence, age, race, etc....and now the bill might be passed because that idiot said the things he did... I have no doubt that if this story gets out, the principal will be fired... or he should... and We hope he gets whats coming to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navi Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 [quote][i]Originally posted by Sephiroth[/i]: [b]if someone isn't gay, then they're not going to try anything with them, and by that I mean flirt, or ask them out, whatever...[/b][/quote] word. down with the gay-people-will-hit-on-anyone-even-if-they're-straight mentality. seriously, people need to realize gay people are [i]people[/i] too. they're not like sex crazed rabbits; humping/hitting on [i]anyone[/i]. As for your principal's blatant display of idiocy: I bite my thumb at you, sir. What a sexist, pompous ***. I don't like how females can wear pants, baggy shirts, and 'guy' clothes yet aren't viewed as eccentric, like when guy's wear dresses, make up, skirts, or high heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renee Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 That...that... grrrr...:flaming: Let us kill it! Yes, and then... Daisuke: We shall poke it with sharp pointy sticks? ........ Ken: Made of wood! You pervert! Oh. In that case it sounds like a plan! I'm not going to kill it though. I have to read my fanfiction, and I don't have the time. Daisuke: Can we poke him with sharp, pointy sticks... Ken: Of wood! Daisuke: ... anyway? Sure. Daisuke: Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mornigndew Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] Well he had also done it earlier in the year... however he was not confronted at all about it.... I think the fact that he wanted to go to prom in a dress caused some stir in the principals pants, and now everything he does the principal wants to jump on him for.... it's really sad... and we know people that could get this out to all of Orlando... many connections in the gay community here heh. You should have seen what that dumbass republican official guy said last year to gay people meeting in the state capital.... something like "Gays break all natural laws and go against the bible and should go to hell".... on PUBLIC TV.... and due to that, the gay community got backing from MANY Democrats for a bill we are trying to get passed that protects people in school based on gender, sexual prefrence, age, race, etc....and now the bill might be passed because that idiot said the things he did... I have no doubt that if this story gets out, the principal will be fired... or he should... and We hope he gets whats coming to him... [/B][/QUOTE] [color=blue][size=1] "Gays break all natural laws and go against the bible and should go to hell" Some one should sue him for saying that. I don't know much about the bible, but I never hear from a priest or someone said that from the church. I don't think the Bible say anything like that. Homosexual is not common to our society (it's minority), but it's not against nature. I hope the bill about protecting people in school pass. [/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted February 28, 2002 Author Share Posted February 28, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mornigndew [/i] [B] [color=blue][size=1] "Gays break all natural laws and go against the bible and should go to hell" Some one should sue him for saying that. I don't know much about the bible, but I never hear from a priest or someone said that from the church. I don't think the Bible say anything like that. Homosexual is not common to our society (it's minority), but it's not against nature. I hope the bill about protecting people in school pass. [/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] We can't sue him... he has his right to say it... but he helped us more than anything.... he made himself look like a bigotted moron, which he is, and people jumped on him for it... Typical of republicans to open their mouths and say the wrong things lol... Democrats just pull down their pants lol ::sigh:: neither are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] We can't sue him... he has his right to say it... but he helped us more than anything.... he made himself look like a bigotted moron, which he is, and people jumped on him for it... Typical of republicans to open their mouths and say the wrong things lol... Democrats just pull down their pants lol ::sigh:: neither are good [/B][/QUOTE] That's right, TN. That's why we need a Communistic world! A place where everyone can do whatever they want, with me in charge! Kyeheheheh... Umm, oh yeah, Bigots and Homophobes suck. Yay for Gay people. w00t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imsirion Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mornigndew [/i] [B] [color=blue][size=1] "Gays break all natural laws and go against the bible and should go to hell" Some one should sue him for saying that. I don't know much about the bible, but I never hear from a priest or someone said that from the church. I don't think the Bible say anything like that. Homosexual is not common to our society (it's minority), but it's not against nature. I hope the bill about protecting people in school pass. [/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] well,[FONT=courier new]actually[/FONT] , the bible dose say something about homosexaulity being a sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mornigndew Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by outlawstar_14 [/i] [B] well,[FONT=courier new]actually[/FONT] , the bible dose say something about homosexaulity being a sin. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=blue][size=1] hmmm. I didn't know about this. I have to ask someone at the church about this. I rememberred reading a Catholic's magazine, and someone ask about "Is homosexual a sin?." The answer it's not.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted March 1, 2002 Author Share Posted March 1, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mornigndew [/i] [B] [color=blue][size=1] hmmm. I didn't know about this. I have to ask someone at the church about this. I rememberred reading a Catholic's magazine, and someone ask about "Is homosexual a sin?." The answer it's not.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] I believe it says something along the lines of "Man shall not lay with another man".... but then again it never mentions the word woman in the bible at all.... let alone in this part... and then again, the bible is just a book... but thats my opinion.... And the bible doesn't represent the whole world... certainly not me either... However this topic wasn't meant to be religously related.... I was keeping it more around, what was your opinion on what should be done and what has been done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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