Anime UC vs. AC Gundams

[Guest Altron Gundam]

Uh huh. UC Gundams all the way. I'm sorry but the Physalis with the nuke launcher, ZZ Gundam w. the Hyper Mega Particle Beam Cannon, and the Nu Gundam with its Fin Funnels totally outweigh the pathetic Wing gundams.(only exception is Altron, lmao)

[Ice Dragon v2]

Yea, true.
Even though AC weaponry is obsolete compared to UC weaponry, there is still skills in piloting the MS. And don't tell me about that newtype skill crap. I already know. So basically, both centuries counter with each other.

[Guest Altron Gundam]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ice Dragon v2 [/i]
[B]Yea, true.
Even though AC weaponry is obsolete compared to UC weaponry, there is still skills in piloting the MS. And don't tell me about that newtype skill crap. I already know. So basically, both centuries counter with each other. [/B][/QUOTE]

How? Amuro's, Gato's, and Kou's skills easily beat Heero or whoever...

[gundamcat17]

hmm well if it must be said i think that the first shot made buy wing 0 on gpo2a would be made fun and then gpota would fire a beam cannon volley and whoops no more heero yuy...gw when it comes to weaponry and armor is a joke...it might as well be called lets get shot by 50 suits at the same time and not have it affect us THE SHOW.

[Ice Dragon v2]

Well there is one weapon that outclasses everything. The Gundam Double X (DX) Twin Satillite cannon. Yes, it can take out a colony in one shot, but there is a little touch to that. That cannon has the capability of disabiling colony orbits resulting a lot dropping of colonies colonies. If I'm not mistaken, I heard (rumors) that the cannons can put a hole into Earth, if fired at full power. Heh, add the G-Falcon armor to the DX and you got extra external power.

[Guest Altron Gundam]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ice Dragon v2 [/i]
[B]Well there is one weapon that outclasses everything. The Gundam Double X (DX) Twin Satillite cannon. Yes, it can take out a colony in one shot, but there is a little touch to that. That cannon has the capability of disabiling colony orbits resulting a lot dropping of colonies colonies. If I'm not mistaken, I heard (rumors) that the cannons can put a hole into Earth, if fired at full power. Heh, add the G-Falcon armor to the DX and you got extra external power. [/B][/QUOTE]

LMAO. And how long does it take to fire b4 it either gets nuked or someone slices it up with a beam weapon...

[Ice Dragon v2]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]

LMAO. And how long does it take to fire b4 it either gets nuked or someone slices it up with a beam weapon... [/B][/QUOTE]

It still has the standard vulcans, shield, and beam rifle for defensive purposes.
Charge time depends on how fast the solar station on the moon can max up the power. Other than that, it uses the G-Falcon, but it's not strong as the station charge. It acts like an external battery.

And theres the Gundam Virsago's Megasonic Guns in its chest. Yea, sound waves.

And this was a heated topic back in v3 called EVA vs Gundam.
There was Seph's mention of the Devil Gundam.
Even though G Gundam doesn't belong to any of the centuries, it's its own little series. The Devil Gundam's Shoryu Beam Cannon can completely destroy a planet. I've read up on the Devil Gundam and it has the ability to regenerate and evolve. So, this is where UC and AC are dead at the same time.

[Sephiroth]

the twin satellite cannons fired by the gundam double x takes faaaaaaar too long to fire, the double x would be destroyed while it was charging its attack....

[Ice Dragon v2]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sephiroth [/i]
[B]the twin satellite cannons fired by the gundam double x takes faaaaaaar too long to fire, the double x would be destroyed while it was charging its attack.... [/B][/QUOTE]
Here's proof of Seph's comment.
Forgive the SD version but it's still Double X

[Guest Altron Gundam]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ice Dragon v2 [/i]
[B]
Here's proof of Seph's comment.
Forgive the SD version but it's still Double X [/B][/QUOTE]

Err...I've seen the series....no need to show me but no Gundam besides the Physalis has the necessary armor and cooling systems to withstand a nuclear assualt. Anyway, newtypes totally demolish the AC pilots skills anyway.

[Ice Dragon v2]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]

Err...I've seen the series....no need to show me but no Gundam besides the Physalis has the necessary armor and cooling systems to withstand a nuclear assualt. Anyway, newtypes totally demolish the AC pilots skills anyway. [/B][/QUOTE]

That's true.
Ah, read my PSYCOMMU topic. That should be interesting.

[Sephiroth]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ice Dragon v2 [/i]
[B]

And this was a heated topic back in v3 called EVA vs Gundam.
There was Seph's mention of the Devil Gundam.
Even though G Gundam doesn't belong to any of the centuries, it's its own little series. The Devil Gundam's Shoryu Beam Cannon can completely destroy a planet. I've read up on the Devil Gundam and it has the ability to regenerate and evolve. So, this is where UC and AC are dead at the same time. [/B][/QUOTE]

devil gundam owns everyone's azz, lol....

but it doesn't belong to ac or uc so it doesn't count, awww....

[Chaos]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]Uh huh. UC Gundams all the way. I'm sorry but the Physalis with the nuke launcher, ZZ Gundam w. the Hyper Mega Particle Beam Cannon [/B][/QUOTE]

YES! THIS IS VERY TRUE!! ZZ Gundam.......*drools*

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B](only exception is Altron, lmao) [/B][/QUOTE]

AND THE EPYON! W00T! :D

[Milliardo]

To be fair, I don't like Zero Wing Gundam at all, but the fact that it's made of an armor that's practically indestructible, plus the fact that it has a weapon that is ridiculously powerful, would put any other Gundam unit to shame. The only thing I can think of that matches it for sheer firepower is Gundam Double X.

[Ice Dragon v2]

UC weaponry still has the advantage over AC. For one thing, the Satillite Cannons on the X and DX series takes too long to charge to full power. If X and DX faced with the RX-93 (the Nu Gundam) and the FA-010 (Full Armor Double Zeta), X and DX are toasted. Yes, they may still have the standard beam weaponry, but can they still top the manueverability of Nu and ZZ??? Plus, with the Hyper Mega Cannon on ZZ and the Fin Funnels on Nu, X and DX are shot. Ok, enough of that. I think I've said enough.

[Zero-Sama]

I prefer UC to AC because of the fact that UC has such astronomicaly advanced technology that it makes AC look like big walking toys,Firing off cap guns at each other.

[ZeroBlade]

AC all the way man, and Wing Zero will lead them. All the gundams (and other mobile suits) from the AC universe out preforms the suits in the UC universe. All the suits have diesel armor, when gundam in a AC universe is covered in bombs, they come out of the blast with little or no damage. In the UC universe, when the orginal Gundam had a bomb on its shield, it ripped it in half! Some of which even have energy barriers, ala Virgo suits, have some very powerful weapons wheter it being solid/energy and long/short range. Most suits can fly too even if they have mad armor and weapons - Tallgeese - and can still manuver type fast.:eek: The suits in a UC universe tend to jump around using the jet boosters to go farther - StarDust memory. Then you have the technology, the best example is the Zero System cockpit. Damn, with this you can practicly predict what your opponent gonna do next. It'll be pretty damn annoying if you can't use your Hyper Mega Cannon or Fin Funnels if your opponent already knows you're gonna use it and be ready for it. And the Flash systerm, wow. Being able to contol 10 or so suits similar to yours with your mind is cool. Also, in most of the battles I see in a UC series, I see that the gundams take cover when they're being attacked by only 5 mobie suits. In AC series, one suit can fight an entire army. Whats even crzier is that the AC MS have lots of ammo and different weapons. UC suits with beam rifles run out of power pretty fast while AC suits have practicly unlimited ammo. (I don't remember wing zero's buster rifle and the Virgo's arm cannons ever running out of ammo). Now, graned GX and the Double X take time to use their most powerful weapon, but they never used them in the heat of a battle. They need to blow up a base? Ok they only did that when they wasn't being attacked. (But i do remember when the Double X was being attacked by the two evil gundams - forgot their names -and it had to destory a airbase, they couldn't get close to the Double X while it was charging). You can't say the "charging" flaw appiles to Wing Zero either. In lots of battles it fired its guns like crazy and the blasts was still powerful in that they destoryed orther suits in an instant. It only charges its guns when it really needs to blow up something, like a colony. Now the Hyper Mega Cannon and the Fin Funnels are some cool weapons, but some other weapons in the UC universe are a bit crazy. A NUKE in Stardust memory.... now thats O.D. Ok you use a nuke on your enemies, kill'em all, win the war....where's the fun in that? And even so you can only do it once. As for G Gundam, I agree with Sephiroth. That thing is nuts, but its neither UC or AC so they don't count. This series reminds me of too much of DBZ too, which is why I never liked it.

[Guest Altron Gundam]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ZeroG214 [/i]
[B]AC all the way man, and Wing Zero will lead them. All the gundams (and other mobile suits) from the AC universe out preforms the suits in the UC universe. All the suits have diesel armor, when gundam in a AC universe is covered in bombs, they come out of the blast with little or no damage. In the UC universe, when the orginal Gundam had a bomb on its shield, it ripped it in half! Some of which even have energy barriers, ala Virgo suits, have some very powerful weapons wheter it being solid/energy and long/short range. Most suits can fly too even if they have mad armor and weapons - Tallgeese - and can still manuver type fast.:eek: The suits in a UC universe tend to jump around using the jet boosters to go farther - StarDust memory. Then you have the technology, the best example is the Zero System cockpit. Damn, with this you can practicly predict what your opponent gonna do next. It'll be pretty damn annoying if you can't use your Hyper Mega Cannon or Fin Funnels if your opponent already knows you're gonna use it and be ready for it. And the Flash systerm, wow. Being able to contol 10 or so suits similar to yours with your mind is cool. Also, in most of the battles I see in a UC series, I see that the gundams take cover when they're being attacked by only 5 mobie suits. In AC series, one suit can fight an entire army. Whats even crzier is that the AC MS have lots of ammo and different weapons. UC suits with beam rifles run out of power pretty fast while AC suits have practicly unlimited ammo. (I don't remember wing zero's buster rifle and the Virgo's arm cannons ever running out of ammo). Now, graned GX and the Double X take time to use their most powerful weapon, but they never used them in the heat of a battle. They need to blow up a base? Ok they only did that when they wasn't being attacked. (But i do remember when the Double X was being attacked by the two evil gundams - forgot their names -and it had to destory a airbase, they couldn't get close to the Double X while it was charging). You can't say the "charging" flaw appiles to Wing Zero either. In lots of battles it fired its guns like crazy and the blasts was still powerful in that they destoryed orther suits in an instant. It only charges its guns when it really needs to blow up something, like a colony. Now the Hyper Mega Cannon and the Fin Funnels are some cool weapons, but some other weapons in the UC universe are a bit crazy. A NUKE in Stardust memory.... now thats O.D. Ok you use a nuke on your enemies, kill'em all, win the war....where's the fun in that? And even so you can only do it once. As for G Gundam, I agree with Sephiroth. That thing is nuts, but its neither UC or AC so they don't count. This series reminds me of too much of DBZ too, which is why I never liked it. [/B][/QUOTE]

I hate when dubbies try to sound smart. Before you say anything else, think for a second.

That's what makes the GW stupid. One suit can take a fleet, because the enemy suits are so weak. DSH sucks, ZERO sucks, the Zero System sucks, Kou and other newtypes wipe it out. Your full of bullshit man. You don't know anything. "Oh yeah yeah...Zero System..." Newtypes wipe it out. Just don't listen to this guy. This moron doesn't even know what a Fin Funnel does...he's too busy watching his five indestructible Winger gundams get annihilated by real pilots..

[Spikey]

[FONT=arial]I like UC pretty much the best.[/font]

[spike speigel]

uc all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Zepyranthese can blow them all away.

[Ice Dragon v2]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i]
[B]

I hate when dubbies try to sound smart. Before you say anything else, think for a second.

That's what makes the GW stupid. One suit can take a fleet, because the enemy suits are so weak. DSH sucks, ZERO sucks, the Zero System sucks, Kou and other newtypes wipe it out. Your full of bullshit man. You don't know anything. "Oh yeah yeah...Zero System..." Newtypes wipe it out. Just don't listen to this guy. This moron doesn't even know what a Fin Funnel does...he's too busy watching his five indestructible Winger gundams get annihilated by real pilots.. [/B][/QUOTE]

First off, Kou isn't a newtype. He's just a reg Feddy pilot. The Zephrantes and the Physalis were built on the same time. Reading from there specifications, they were not designed for pilots with newtype capabilities.

And to ZeroG214......
Yes, it might be true that the GW Gundams may out-perform UC Gundams, but can they handle the newtypes. Oh sure, the Zero System may increase the reaction times of the MS, but it's crap against the PSYCOMMU System of the Zeta and Double Zeta Gundams. That system increases [b]newtype[/b] abilities through their emotions. Not only it increases their abilities, it amplifies the power of the MS and pilot combined.
I agree with Altron that GW Gundams are dead, but I don't share his enthusiastic remarks.........Sorry man :(

[spike speigel]

I agree with ice dragonv2. The psycocom is so much cooler then the zero system. Go newtypes! UC all the way!:smoke:

[Guest Altron Gundam]

My bad. What I meant to say was Amuro being a newtype. Amuro and his Hi-Nu Gundam would wipe the floor with any GW gundam. This dubbie only backs GW because that's all he's seen.

Lemme throw down all his points w/o shouting:

"Wing Zero beat everybody" - Eh, howabout not. That's exactly the type of bias that all GW dubbies have. It has a crappy pilot and a Buster Cannon, woohoo. THe Newtypes power allows then to increase the overall ability and output of the mobile suit, not just gain increased piloting skills, making it superior. Plus Zero sucks...Buster Cannon woohoo...NUKE it. Its dead.

"Energy barriers"- Yeah..some good it did them except slow them down and get sliced up...

"A single suit taking on an entire fleet"- Guess what! That's what made GW an incredibly stupid series! You knew they would win, at impossible odds. While with UC the sides are more evenly matched.

Also to your last point, about where the fun is. What's the fun of watching 5 mediocre gundams act like Power Rangers, where's the fun in knowing they're destined to slice through 900 mobile suits at once when the pilots suck?

[Ice Dragon v2]

Bad news Altron. Read my topic on Turn-A Gundam. That discovery of mine torpedoed your concept because Turn-A is AC. I'm not saying I'm backing down, I'm just saying all UC is toast. And I have proof. PM me if you want it.

[Guest Morph]

[size=1][color=red] All I have to say after reading this is... That both sides argued the point well, but I have always been with UC and I still am with the new Turn A Gundam report IDv2 did, And the Twin Salletlite Cannons do take a long time to charge, but if at max like they said, It can destory a colony in one shot. But if an enemy with high speeds and is not in the way of any enemies, they can take it down..... UC ALL THE WAY!!!!!

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