Fall Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Heaven's Cloud [/i] [B] [color=indigo]The American Medical Association found that occasionally consuming an alcoholic beverage that contains a high carbohydrate ratio such as beer or a malt beverage in combination with tomato in its cooked form, helps reduce the risk of kidney damage and liver failure [/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=green]Do you mean as in "malt beverage", a glass of Milo or Nesquik? Or do you mean by a beer or something...?[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan L Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Heaven's Cloud [/i] [B] [color=indigo] The Americn Heart Association found that by consuming one glass of red wine a day you can drastically reduce the risk of heart disease, which as we all know, is the leading cause of death in the US [/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Just so you know, that has absolutely nothing to do with the alcohol in red wine.. It has something to do with another of the substances in it.. I forget which.. but the point is that it has nothing to do with the alcohol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asar Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by hot head [/i] [B]peope tink its cool because ther crack head firends are into it the bros probally into it and even the parents are in to it its sad and pathodic that people get drunk it makes me sick [/B][/QUOTE] you're post is kinda hypocritical, to say the least, when i look at the details in your "Location" box, hot head. And Deus, i believe that the benfits of red wine are due to substances called "phenols", if i remember correctly, which help regulate the blood system or some such thing. However, moderation is the key to recieving these benefits. Related to moderation, i once heard that to live a good life you need to take everything in moderation...including moderation. There is nothing wrong with drinking, provided that you are responsible for your actions when intoxicated. What i despise about our legal system is the defense plea of "your honour, i was inebriated, and therefore am not responsible for running that person over/ punching the bartender, commiting that murder." It sickens me when people have their sentence reduced because of diminished responsibilty pleas. Nobody forced these people to drink....*sigh*...sorry, i suppose this is kind of off the topic...but as you can see it really peeves me. Anywho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddess21 Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i] [B][color=crimson][size=1]There's something that's totally been bothering me lately that I've noticed on the boards more and more. What is up with people thinking it's so COOL to do drugs or to drink when it's totally illegal? I've already seen on here twice where people were like "I was totally drunk when I posted that" almost like they are bragging or something. Were you RAISED to think that is the right and "cool" thing to do? If you have to lower yourself to that kind of level so people will look up to you then you're not a very strong individual. I know someone has to share my opinion on this. I just want to know what goes through you people's minds!!!!! I'm not trying to be all goody-good, because I went to a party ONCE and got drunk and I must say, it was NOT a fun experience and I didn't think it was "cool" in the slightest. But the way people are influenced nowadays, it seems the way to go. I thought it was only like that down here in Redneckville, Georgia, but this a re-occuring issue all over the place...I think it's getting way too much out of hand....[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=purple]Queen Asuka, I have to admit, I used to think just like you, so I am not saying that I think you're opinion is wrong in any way... just saying that before I start! :cross: I have only been drunk once, but I have drank before that, just not gotten drunk, and contrary to what you say I don't think that it is really wrong. If people decide to do that to themselves, then it is their problem. When it starts getting out of hand, than I think you can say that it is wrong. Although it is illegal, drinking is fun for a lot of people. Some people need it to loosen up, others to just calm down and not think about things that are stressing them out. If drinking works for them in a positive way then that's cool with me! For me, though, it just is something to do and it is a good time, so I don't know what is wrong with it then either. People are just curious. I will write more later... but I have to go now! I hope no one is offended! :blackeye: [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 it's because there are so many young members here on the boards, they see things that older people do such as smoking and drinking, as "cool" which in fact it is not, and is just a normal thing, though I recommend everyone to steer well away from drugs, I say this based on personal experience.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeh Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [COLOR=indigo]I have to say I?m quite pleased that this thread has not turned into a spamfest (yes, I stole your word Seph ;)). All sides each have a reasonable explanation, and i can agree to all. Yes drinking does ruin your body, yes, it is up to the person weather or not to drink, and yes, some types of drinking do benefit the body... There's really not much more to say here.... [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cloud [/i] [B][COLOR=indigo]I have to say I?m quite pleased that this thread has not turned into a spamfest (yes, I stole your word Seph ;)). All sides each have a reasonable explanation, and i can agree to all. Yes drinking does ruin your body, yes, it is up to the person weather or not to drink, and yes, some types of drinking do benefit the body... There's really not much more to say here.... [/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE] aaah! thief!!! *whacks cloud continuously with rolled up newspaper* anyway, cloud is right, whether people drink or not is entirely up to them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cloud [/i] [B][COLOR=indigo] There's really not much more to say here.... [/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]Actually, there is one more thing I'd like to say. I still hold true to all of the things I said last night, but I also want to say something a bit nicer. I understand that most of you around here are much younger than myself and those who have drank before, so I can understand why you'd believe drinking is wrong, BUT...you can't really tell me how it's bad or good if you have never done it before. Sure, you can tell me it's bad legally, but is it really BAD to drink? It's actually rather fun, thanks...please don't tell me how it affects you when you have NO idea what it feels like. I'm certainly not telling any of you to start drinking at a young age because I don't want to change anyone's values and morals. Just stay true to those beliefs because they're good, but please don't chastiscize ME because I have done something you never have. When/if you yourself try it (which I don't really urge you to do because of the fact most of you are morally against it) THEN maybe you can say what you think about it. Who knows? Maybe even some of you will enjoy it. Just be aware (and not ignorant) to others beliefs. Mine are different than yours, but we can still get along ;)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mornigndew Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [color=blue][size=1]I don't have anything to say, because all of you said it all. I notice that in U.S drinking is a problem, probably because it's illegal to drink underage ...etc. In other countries, drinking is not a problem and there's legal age to drink. [/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeh Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i] [B] [color=deeppink] It's actually rather fun, thanks...please don't tell me how it affects you when you have NO idea what it feels like. I'm certainly not telling any of you to start drinking at a young age because I don't want to change anyone's values and morals. Just stay true to those beliefs because they're good, but please don't chastiscize ME because I have done something you never have. When/if you yourself try it (which I don't really urge you to do because of the fact most of you are morally against it) THEN maybe you can say what you think about it. Who knows? Maybe even some of you will enjoy it.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=indigo]But i have tried it.... I'm not saying i don't like it, it's just it's not the best thing... But i agree, it is fun... i guess... But like mornigndew said, in some countrys there isn't a legal drinking age... the first time i tried alcohol (except that time when i was 3.... lets not go there) was when i went on a class trip to europe.... They really don't care what your age is... [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Voodookanaka Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 (i havent read this whole thread) i noticed that u posted '...and its totally illegal....' y does legality have anything to do with it, drugs are a persons pesonal choice and nobody with half a brain would care about law. i will often state when ive made post while drinking to excuse my lack of grammer and spelling and to let ppl know im not speaking in a clear or my normal state of mind. Ive never understood why drinking is popular amongst the youngsters and y being drunk is such a big thing, i myself drink on a daily basis mainly to unwind. thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus_Necare Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 I think europe knows what it's doing, I mean they lower the drinking age so there isn't an awe of mystery about it. young people in this country drink underage because it's something you're not supposed to do it gives you a rush because, "he, he we're not alowed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shift Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 [COLOR=indigo]I think drugs and alcohol are bad but u can't stop somebody from doing it even if it is illeagal to do drugs. And they won't get anything done to them here for saying stuff like that..[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddess21 Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Angelus_Necare [/i] [B]I think europe knows what it's doing, I mean they lower the drinking age so there isn't an awe of mystery about it. young people in this country drink underage because it's something you're not supposed to do it gives you a rush because, "he, he we're not alowed". [/B][/QUOTE] [color=firebrick]You are so amazingly right here :D ! I think one of the main reasons kids in the US drink is because it is forbidden, and the more you tell someone not to do something, the more they are going to want to do it! Not all people do it just for the rush, though. As I said before, many people find it fun... me included. And I don't think that anyone is raised to think that drinking is "cool" persay, people are just trying to have a good time. Also, I think people do it because they are bored and there is nothing else to do, so why not? :devil: [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i] [B] [color=deeppink] I understand that most of you around here are much younger than myself and those who have drank before, so I can understand why you'd believe drinking is wrong, BUT...you can't really tell me how it's bad or good if you have never done it before. Sure, you can tell me it's bad legally, but is it really BAD to drink? It's actually rather fun, thanks...please don't tell me how it affects you when you have NO idea what it feels like. [/color] [/B][/QUOTE] For some reason I feel compelled to reply to this... anyway. I am 17, and coincientally today is the 6 month mark until I'm 18... and to me, to never drink and make the judgment not to touch the fire [i]before[/i] you're burned is perfectly reasonable. I've only been to ... actually just one party where there were drugs/alcohol, and luckily it was just these three guys who ended up leaving early anyway. I havetasted alcohol before, but I assure you I had no friggin idea that 'the water in the bottle' was really vodka. Nastiest thing Ihave ever had in my entire life. I was reeeeeeeally thirsty, and took a big ol swig without thinking twice. It was over at a friend's house, opened their refridgerator and took out what looked like regular bottled water. Heh, yeah..... I had already made my decision to not drink, but that little experience certainly put it in stone. SO anyway, yes I have valid room to state that it's bad, to me. And overall, especially after the headache I had, I really can't see how it could be all that great for anyone else. And I only had a shot's worth! But anywho, as the coined phrase of this thread goes, to each their own. :therock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvet paws Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I don't know what's been said because (and I'm very sorry about this) I don't really have time to scan the whole topic...but it's proven that alcohol in small amounts are healthy for you and cannabis is better for you than other stuff like cigars. I find that most people I know smoke, drink, or are pot-heads. I don't know why, these just seem to be a trend...but as long as my friends enjoy doing it, can afford it and don't come to any immediate harm I don't really care..it's their lives. Personally I have only ever tried weed once (a few drags off someone's spliff) and it is not something I'll go to lengths to do again..it just doesn't appeal - I used to have a social drink every friday night with friends at the pub, rarely having enough to actually get drunk..I only ever drink when I'm seriously depressed and it's easily available - I've smoked fags before but I've never been a smoker. I've never bought my own or had more than 4 in a day. I only ever have them when I'm depressed. It comes from my dad being a heavy smoker, and whenever there was stress in the household he'd smoke even more and I'd be right next to him breathing it all in, so I sorta chill if I have a *** and I'm stressed..it's kinda weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Anna [/i] [B] For some reason I feel compelled to reply to this... anyway. I am 17, and coincientally today is the 6 month mark until I'm 18... and to me, to never drink and make the judgment not to touch the fire [i]before[/i] you're burned is perfectly reasonable. [/b][/quote] [color=deeppink]Yeah, I wasn't directing this towards you because I know that you're the same age as me, and I have read your reasons before. They're completely justified and I think it's great that you hvae chosen not to drink :)[/color] [quote][b]And overall, especially after the headache I had, I really can't see how it could be all that great for anyone else. And I only had a shot's worth! But anywho, as the coined phrase of this thread goes, to each their own. :therock: [/B][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]Uh...a headache after one shot? That's not physically possible I don't think :cross: I've had much more than that and I have never had a hangover the next morning...ever. Maybe it was a mental thing or something...like you thought 'drinking gives people headaches so I'll get one now too' or...or maybe it just made you sick because vodka doesn't taste good at all. Ah well :huh:[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 [color=red][b]i drink. i am underage. i do it because i enjoy it. not because it's "cool" or "the thing to do". i do it because Corona's are just so damn good.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeh Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i] [B] [color=deeppink]Uh...a headache after one shot? That's not physically possible I don't think :cross: I've had much more than that and I have never had a hangover the next morning...ever. Maybe it was a mental thing or something...like you thought 'drinking gives people headaches so I'll get one now too' or...or maybe it just made you sick because vodka doesn't taste good at all. Ah well :huh:[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=indigo]It's possible.... When i was 12, at lunch time we stopped over to one of my friends house.... he used to drink, at the age of 13... but anyway to my story, i had a can of pepsi, he poured something into it, and omg, it tasted gross...... I had a killer headache for the rest of the day after that...[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted March 15, 2002 Author Share Posted March 15, 2002 [color=crimson][size=1]Some people's ignorance just really annoys me. I can't convince anyone around here to not drink, but you people who do it because it's fun and you enjoy is just stupid. I'm not calling you stupid, but it's almost like you're trying to say "Hey look at me, I can do this because it's WRONG." I think that some people enjoy it so much because it's wrong and there is just this huge rush when you know you're rebelling. But I guess my opinion doesn't matter, I'm tired of people thinking I've stepped on toes.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan L Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Angelus_Necare [/i] [B]I think europe knows what it's doing, I mean they lower the drinking age so there isn't an awe of mystery about it. young people in this country drink underage because it's something you're not supposed to do it gives you a rush because, "he, he we're not alowed". [/B][/QUOTE] [color=darkblue][b]I understand what you're saying, but that just eliminates the awe of mystery for people over 18 (the legal age here).. the main problem is the kids around that start drinking at 12 or 13.. and you're right... they get a rush from it cos they're not allowed... same with smoking. I'm still trying to figure out why we can smoke at 16 over here though :confused: ...[/color][/b] [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BabyGirl [/i] [B] [color=deeppink]Uh...a headache after one shot? That's not physically possible I don't think :cross: I've had much more than that and I have never had a hangover the next morning...ever. Maybe it was a mental thing or something...like you thought 'drinking gives people headaches so I'll get one now too' or...or maybe it just made you sick because vodka doesn't taste good at all. Ah well :huh:[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=darkblue][b]I'm sure it's possible, I think it just depends on.... something.. I dunno.. cos I have had up to 8 double shots of vodka without a headache the nexzt morning, but once I had one double and I did have a headache...[/color][/b] [QUOTE][i]Part of that post by BabyGirl [/i] [B] [color=deeppink]vodka doesn't taste good at all[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=darkblue][b]Ack! Demon!!! Vodka tastes bad?! never! :p (This smiley has no purpose other than to say 'don't take that 'demon' bit too seriously' ;))[/color][/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [color=royalblue]Kids who drink underage (as in, 13/14 or so) make me utterly sick. Frankly, when I was that age...and I saw one or two kids drinking...I thought that they were absolute losers. I wondered why any normal kid would want to get trashed and spend their money on something so destructive...I never understood it. I am of legal drinking age...yet I just don't have the urge to drink much at all. If I ever drink, it's pretty rare...I just don't see the point lol. I don't think that the idea of passing out in a total mess on the floor is my idea of a good time...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKnight Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B][color=royalblue]Kids who drink underage (as in, 13/14 or so) make me utterly sick. [/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]Why? Most of them drink to get numb the pains of whatever they are dealing with. That's why I drink.... To escape... and I am 13.. and I find nothing wrong with that...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DeathKnight [/i] [B] [color=crimson]Why? Most of them drink to get numb the pains of whatever they are dealing with. That's why I drink.... To escape... and I am 13.. and I find nothing wrong with that...[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]Why? Because it's pathetic and foolish. Moreover, it will potentially damage your life in the future (especially if you develop a dependancy/addiction). Drinking let's you escape for a mere moment in time. But overall, it makes you feel worse than you started off in the first place. :) It's not a solver of problems...it only makes that dark spiral darker and darker.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundamcat17 Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by goddess21 [/i] [B] [color=firebrick]You are so amazingly right here :D ! I think one of the main reasons kids in the US drink is because it is forbidden, and the more you tell someone not to do something, the more they are going to want to do it! Not all people do it just for the rush, though. As I said before, many people find it fun... me included. And I don't think that anyone is raised to think that drinking is "cool" persay, people are just trying to have a good time. Also, I think people do it because they are bored and there is nothing else to do, so why not? :devil: [/color] [/B][/QUOTE] I agree as well humans as a species have the want and or need to explore as well as be inquisitive.This has been proven multiple times in multiple cases...Take the 20s for example liquer and beer were completely outlawed no one could drink.So what happened well they were not named the roaring 20s for nothing.People drank at clubs and brothels from alcohol that had transported or stilled illegaly.during this time it was shown that even a 60 year old that is told he can't drink does. This is just my thought on the subject it applies to drugs and alcohol.I live in what is known as the marijuana capital of the world{eureka,humboldt county,california}and have many friends that smoke it...however they are all over the age of 18{proving its not just kids}and think about it responsably. I guess this subject is kind of a to each his own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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