goddess21 Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [color=chocolate]I don't know if this thread is going to get closed... but I will try it anyway! I was just thinking about how kids these days (elementary and middle school) are getting introduced to things so early these days! Such as drugs, alcohol, sex, etc...... it just doesn't make sense to me! When I was in middle school I didn't even know what sex was and now kids in middle school are doing it? And I never even had a thought about drinking alcohol or doing drugs because they were so foreign! It just doesn't make sense to me!:wigout: Does anyone else think that kids are growing up too fast these days?[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoTranzrig Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 I suppose it is...I've seen it in middle school back then...I don't know about now, I guess it still lingers around. I think it's somewhat better if people get introduced into the elements of the real world at an early age so they know how to deal with it later on. You get what I'm saying? From a parent's standpoint, better they explore on their own with the adult close by to guide them and teach them when they're still listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuja Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [SIZE=1][FONT=century gothic][COLOR=crimson]wait... what is sex? (anyone who answers that will be killed) i mean im 19 and while i think of it... i dont see a need to experiment in it. yet there are girl on my high school team that were already with more guys that i have had gf's *shudder* (yes i have had a few gfs yall evil ones thinking otherwise) and other than relitives at holidays i had never even seen alochal until college... i hope i havent seen drugs lol... thou i wouldnt know lol. anyway i had a class on sex in 5th grade... but i didnt pay attention (i was smart bakc then and didnt care for anything out of the 4 main classes)[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hikaru Ichijyo Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 it is a bit disturbing to find out that kids at the age 13 are having sex before me! (I'm 18) It is also further disappointing to see kids pick up a beer or a joint and throw away their lives like that! I do think kids are way to exposed to those things. I just find it so disturbing and a bit sad! In response to goddess21, I didn't even know about that stuff back then. I really didn't learn about sex till I was much older and into my health and anatomy class. I also never was exposed to alcohol or drugs, I am also somewhat Glad to say I have yet to be exposed to these things and would never do either of the two!:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [color=royalblue]I think it's a shame that younger kids are starting to have sex and experiment with alcohol. On the other hand, I am a big advocate of drug awareness. And I think that we should be teaching kids about drugs during late elementary (or primary) school. Education is really the key when it comes to deterrance -- and if you teach kids what is wrong at a young age, that tends to stick with them.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 Why do kids have sex so young? Why do they do drugs and drinks? The answer is really quite simple and quite known... that thing they call Peer Presure... iee it sucks I know... I've delt with it on many occations... even forthwright or not... When you hear other kids talk about sex and how goo dit feels or whatever BS they come up with to try to persuade the listener they actually did it... well it makes you want to do it... you want to know what this other person is talking about,t o understand it, to be like him/her. I've been through the whole thing... I have smoked pot and cigarretts... I've felt the urge to drink but then I taste that crap and spit it out never to drink another drop again. Sex... well I can't particularly relate with kids these days... seeing how the majority engage in heterosexual sex... I never did that as a kid... thought about it... never cared to do it... instead I substituted... and not what you're thinking either... I'm talking mutual stuff with another partner, but not sex... anyway... Kids are stupid... and arrogant... and ignorant for that matter... it doesn't matter, the three words are synonymous. They will try anything and everything to be "cool" or "popular" cause lets face it.... our society tends to make you think being just lik eevryone else is good and being popular is the best... well I think pretty much every society does that... however being the "star quaterback on the football team" doesn't cut it in HS... bleh, who cares if you are popular... i always was digusted by the popular kids... they always were stuck up and annoying and stupid... but anyway, yeah... stupidity makes you do stupid things... those things include drugs, drinking, and sex.... This post was way longer than expected.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delian Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 Yes. Unfortunately kids are growing up way too fast. It's quite sad knowadays to see kids as young as 11 doing drugs, drinking and smoking. We could all say it's peer pressure, but when you have kids that young experimenting with dangerous and illegal substances, you definitely have to place some blame on the parents for their lack of discipline My parents constantly reinforced the importance of discipline, education, respect and integrity in one's self and to be proud. I was always told to set highest standards and make an effort to achieve them. It's this that has given me a strong mind, resistant to peer pressure, even in highschool, I would alienate myself from anyone who was into all that crap, even if it meant I'd have no friends, which is how it was. As for sex, it is something special that you do with the person you love. It's pathetic and sad to hear 13yr old girls these days, gossiping about how many guys they've done it with. It seems that some parents these days have given up on discipline, and their children. Otherwise, you wouldn't have so many kids roaming the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittie Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [color=seagreen] i think they may be exposed a bit earli! i was reading this book and it said you should talk to your kids about sex when they turn 9! i think that's a bit young! the examples of some of the questions you could probabli ask were a bit...um....vulgar to say the least! and this book i found in an elementary school...:nope: i just disagree with that! i didn't find out about certain things until i was in a 'ripe' age! :blush: :D and there is no such thing as 'peer pressure' (imho) there is onli weak-minded people! [/color] :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddess21 Posted March 15, 2002 Author Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RicoTranzrig [/i] [B]I suppose it is...I've seen it in middle school back then...I don't know about now, I guess it still lingers around. I think it's somewhat better if people get introduced into the elements of the real world at an early age so they know how to deal with it later on. You get what I'm saying? From a parent's standpoint, better they explore on their own with the adult close by to guide them and teach them when they're still listening. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=crimson]It may be good for kids to learn about it from their parents..... or someone older that they trust. I just don't think that kids should be experimenting with alcohol, drugs, and sex at such a young age! Yeah.... It makes sense to introduce these concepts to them at an early age.... all I am saying is that they shouldn't do them! But on the other hand, from personal experience, I didn't learn about alcohol, drugs, and sex until high school and I didn't even experiment with the 3 until my senior year.... so maybe we shouldn't introduce kids to these things until they are older and able to understand them better! Another thing I don't understand is why some girls start wearing make-up and revealing clothes when they are in middle school.... that is just making guys think about sex even when they aren't mature enough to experience it! I am done now!:babble: [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Voodookanaka Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 by my last year of school i had seen every known drug except valium and heroin. had had someone i know murdered and most of my friends had had sex. i cant stand kids.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kittie [/i] [B][color=seagreen] i think they may be exposed a bit earli! i was reading this book and it said you should talk to your kids about sex when they turn 9! i think that's a bit young! the examples of some of the questions you could probabli ask were a bit...um....vulgar to say the least! and this book i found in an elementary school...:nope: i just disagree with that! [/color][/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]I don't agree with you. Sex education is actually a very important way of preventing STDs and even preventing kids having sex too early. I think that parents should sit down with their kids at a young age and explain frankly why sex at a young age is not appropriate. If you hide the truth from children, they will be more likely to go out and experiment. If you arm children with truth and knowledge, they will make their own judgements and be less likely to do something foolish. Unfortunately, many parents are too foolish themselves -- they are too afraid to discuss issues of sex and drugs and the result is often that one of their children -- lacking knowledge and wisdom on the subject -- end up getting pregnant at 13. It's to-the-point, but very true.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 I agree with James. Children should be taught at a young age [i]by their parents[/i] what sex/drugs/alcohol is and what it can do to you. Unfortunatly, a lot of parents either aren't responsible enough to do that, or they do it themselves thus they have to teach a "Do as I say and not as I do" type of lesson; which in my opinion doesn't work very well. Once kids have been introduced to dangers by their parents, then I believe the school should take over and teach them the actual diseases and consequences of doing drugs/alcohol/unsafe sex. I myself knew what sex was when I was 6 because some little dude at school tried to explain it to me so I went and asked my mom. But the school sytem didn't provide any descent sex ed. classes until you got into the 10th grade and I wound up losing my virginity when I was 14. Having said that, I think that the school system should teach [b]a detailed[/b] sex education class somewhere around the 7th grade. Kids are getting hornier and hornier these days. I also think that the school systems should teach 'Abstenance' not 'Protection' if they intend to get anywhere. Putting condoms in the hands of high school students to them just means that they don't have to go buy their own this weekend. About the whole drugs thing: I think that the school and the parents should work jointly in this area. Starting as early as K5 if they think it is needed. A lot of it has to do with peer pressure, but(in my opinion) kids are capable of overcoming peer pressure if they are willing to. I've tried everything from cigarettes to X, and trust me...none of it is worth the time it takes to do it. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shift Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [i]It should be introduced at a younger age then therefore the kid will know it's bad from a younger age, and the parent would have more control over what the child knows.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKnight Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [color=crimson]My parents taught me about sex when I was 4... Heh.. They told me drugs were bad... and what they did... and all about alcohol...I've done drugs and alcohol since then but thats off subject... I dont think anyone can stop the drug abuse and sex problem... If they want to **** up their life... then it is their problem.... parents dont really have any hold over what their kids do... they can only teach and hope... If they dont teach.. the children will find out on their own.. Exposure at an early age is just the world getting screwed over more... heh..[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibatku Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 Well I didn't learn about sex and drugs till well, lets say I was a little to young and my dad wasn't exactly what you would call the most "hidden" person. I learned from videos first do you know what thats like. Well its good to teach kids at an ealier age, but the youngest I would say is 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikey Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] Kids are stupid... and arrogant... and ignorant for that matter... it doesn't matter, the three words are synonymous. They will try anything and everything to be "cool" or "popular" cause lets face it.... our society tends to make you think being just lik eevryone else is good and being popular is the best... well I think pretty much every society does that... however being the "star quaterback on the football team" doesn't cut it in HS... bleh, who cares if you are popular... i always was digusted by the popular kids... they always were stuck up and annoying and stupid... but anyway, yeah... stupidity makes you do stupid things... those things include drugs, drinking, and sex.... This post was way longer than expected.... [/B][/QUOTE] Hey TN I am still a kid, so please don't say that. I have never experineced anything such as sex smoking or doing drugs. I am a smart kid and I know not to do that. Some of the kids in my school do-do drugs, but me, me no I have never even thought doing drugs would make me cool. They would mess up my live which well lead me to not being able to get on otakuboards anymore. I would ruin my life forever and I could not take that back. People that are stupid such as some kids do do drugs, but I swear, I swear I don't do drugs, or any of that crap. I have never took a sip of beer or any of the achol. I have been matrue today, I have stopped being in-matrue. i have stopped. Not in my whole life I will never be utter crap. I will not do drugs, I will not. Back to the thread, I think some kids have been doing drugs lately, but not me. I am going to be 9 in two days March 18th and I am still young but I know thaqt drugs aren't my thing to do. Some kids about 2 months ago at my school got arrested for drug dealing. (Thank god I wasn't in high school to smell that crap.) So I won't do drugs and I have noticed that people do drugs, kids mostly but I know that my school doesn't. Well the good kids atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [color=crimson][size=1]I agree that kids are learning stuff too early. I've thought about it myself, and as corrupt as children are becoming nowadays, I can't imagine what's it's going to be like for my OWN children when they are growing up. It's going to be much harder being a parent. Of course, the exposure thing has been occuring constantly throughout time because eventually things that were once forbidden or tabu became things that were accepted. A good example of this is homosexuality. It's so accepted nowadays. I remember when I was a small kid, like 3rd grade, and I was walking down the road where I lived and there was this group of kids in their yard, who were all my age, and they started yelling at me "You're a virgin!" Taunting me as though this was a bad thing. At the time I didn't know what a virgin was but I just yelled "SO!" and ran home. It's unfathomable to think that kids at the age of 8 or 9 are already experimenting with sex. And now it's not only sex, it's drugs and everything else.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonballzman Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Voodookanaka [/i] [B]i cant stand kids.................... [/B][/QUOTE] Note to self: Stay away from Voodookanaka. :blackeye: [QUOTE][I]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve[/I] [B]Kids are stupid... and arrogant... and ignorant for that matter... it doesn't matter, the three words are synonymous. They will try anything and everything to be "cool" or "popular" cause lets face it.... our society tends to make you think being just lik eevryone else is good and being popular is the best... well I think pretty much every society does that... however being the "star quaterback on the football team" doesn't cut it in HS... bleh, who cares if you are popular... i always was digusted by the popular kids... they always were stuck up and annoying and stupid... but anyway, yeah... stupidity makes you do stupid things... those things include drugs, drinking, and sex.... This post was way longer than expected....[/B][/QUOTE] Not true. I don't think drugs are kewl at all! And neither is smoking! :flaming: You can think what you like about kids, but not all of them think drugs and smoking are good! :flaming: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegitto4 Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by goddess21 [/i] [B][color=chocolate]I don't know if this thread is going to get closed... but I will try it anyway! I was just thinking about how kids these days (elementary and middle school) are getting introduced to things so early these days! Such as drugs, alcohol, sex, etc...... it just doesn't make sense to me! When I was in middle school I didn't even know what sex was and now kids in middle school are doing it? And I never even had a thought about drinking alcohol or doing drugs because they were so foreign! It just doesn't make sense to me!:wigout: Does anyone else think that kids are growing up too fast these days?[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] growing up to fast? no. Kids are usually not dealt what they can not handle. I mean, since the whole drug and sex scene is EVERYWHERE, its only right that we warn and teach them about what they will have to face not to far from there age now. Teaching them in Kindergarden-2nd grade is kinda early though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie5 Angels Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by goddess21 [/i] [B][color=chocolate]I don't know if this thread is going to get closed... but I will try it anyway! I was just thinking about how kids these days (elementary and middle school) are getting introduced to things so early these days! Such as drugs, alcohol, sex, etc...... it just doesn't make sense to me! When I was in middle school I didn't even know what sex was and now kids in middle school are doing it? And I never even had a thought about drinking alcohol or doing drugs because they were so foreign! It just doesn't make sense to me!:wigout: Does anyone else think that kids are growing up too fast these days?[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] In 5th grade I had sexual education. I am now in my freshmen year of college,so I guess your school just didn?t have it that why you didn?t know what sex was intill middle school.How old are you by the way,because when i was in middle school kids were having sex.A class mate of mine had a baby in 7th grade for christ sakes.Maybe its just around where you live,but things like that have been going on since the 80's.Maybe even before that. As for smoking and drugs,I smoke and I didnt start smoking intill my junior year of high school and most of my firnes that started smoking young had quit by the time I picked that disgusting habit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvet paws Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]Why do kids have sex so young? Why do they do drugs and drinks? The answer is really quite simple and quite known... that thing they call Peer Presure... iee it sucks I know... I've delt with it on many occations... even forthwright or not... *and so on and so on (didn't want the whole post on here cloggin up space)*[/B][/QUOTE] I agree with that to an extent but I just wanted to say that it's not always the case. I recognise that since I am only 16 I am still a 'child' and as much as I hate it, I accept it. I don't think that peer pressure played any part in me drinking or having sex. My mum and dad have friends who own a huge house and throw big parties on special occasions, ie. bonfire night, birthdays, new years eve etc. Ever since I can remember I used to get tippsey if not drunk at those parties, and when my mum first took me out to a night club with her, the first drink I asked for was a Red Square. Ever since then I have a socail drink about once every 2 weeks at a club or in the pub with my friends. Alot of my friends drink untill they're wasted regularly, often as a result of peer pressure from others, but I only ever drink IF I want to and I've never been in a state. As for having sex. I first did when I was 14. Very young I know, I didn't plan on doing it until I was about 17...truthfully never even thought of it until the day before it happened. As it was, I wasn't forced into it. The guy and I had been really close (never argued, always together, flirting like mad etc) for 6 months, and I'd fancied him 3 years straight..and even though he suggested it when I'd never thought of it, I felt comfortable with him. I thought "why not now with him when it'll mean alot to me and I know it'll be ok cause I can trust him, instead of losing it to rape or some d!ck head who ditches me straight afterwards in a few years?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Peh! You people don't get it..... If someone what's to **** up their lives, let them. I frankly can't care about some stranger on the street.. And I doubt they could care about me. So what's the point of even noticing them? Hmm? Can someone tell me? Because, I really don't see why I should give a damm about some unknown fool on the street. In any case, I don't do the drugs; I'm always this cracked up. But, as I said in a previous thread, I only drink on holidays and such.....And when I can manage to sneak a Red Dog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char! Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SuperSayian [/i] [B]Peh! You people don't get it..... If someone what's to **** up their lives, let them. I frankly can't care about some stranger on the street.. And I doubt they could care about me. So what's the point of even noticing them? Hmm? Can someone tell me? Because, I really don't see why I should give a damm about some unknown fool on the street. [/B][/QUOTE] Wow, SS, that was harsh... Why should you care? Why should you notice? Because that person is your equal, and if you had even a shred of human decency and sympathy then you would care... Can you even imagine how hard that person's life must be? Drugs, alcohol, probably little money, but can't quit. That's called addiction. It does crazy stuff to you, it makes you helpless and eventually hopeless that you could ever change. That's when a person needs someone else the most. It really couldn't matter less who the person is. If it has to be a stranger, say, you, then how could you refuse to give help? Then again, I don't know what I'm saying, this argument doesn't make much sense... :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SuperSayian [/i] [B]Peh! You people don't get it..... If someone what's to **** up their lives, let them. I frankly can't care about some stranger on the street.. And I doubt they could care about me. So what's the point of even noticing them? Hmm? Can someone tell me? Because, I really don't see why I should give a damm about some unknown fool on the street. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]With all due respect, I think [i]you[/i] have it wrong. Case in point: Last week I was in Melbourne with a friend and we went to the movies there. We walked past this guy who was sitting there, playing a beat on an upturned garbage bin. Now, I was wearing a backpack...with my wallet inside. It was hard to get to. I could easily have kept walking like everybody else...but instead, I stopped infront of him, took off my backpack, fumbled around inside and pulled out five bucks...which I gave to him. It would play on my conscience if I just walked past and didn't contribute. I don't always do that of course, but I don't want to be one of those people who [i]never[/i] does it. I know that this has nothing to do with drugs; it's a more fundamental idea. Basically, the idea that other people sometimes need help...whether it be with drugs/alcohol...finance or whatever else. And sometimes other people can't help themselves. They rely on others to get on their feet. I would hate to be a person who never helped anyone. I didn't give him that money to feel good about myself -- I gave it to him with the hope that he would use it to buy food or something. I guess my longwinded point is; dismissing everyone else around you is not something to be happy about or proud of. I think that doing so is really misunderstanding what life is all about.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char! Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Man, James, you keep messing with our minds and we're gonna go stark-raving mad... :hippy: Well said, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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